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MORE ON WARLOCK'S TRICKS [U.S. remotely detonates IED's and incoming enemy mortar rounds in Iraq]
Defense Tech ^ | Noah Shachtman

Posted on 11/29/2004 11:01:47 PM PST by Southack

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1 posted on 11/29/2004 11:01:47 PM PST by Southack
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To: Squantos; archy; Myrddin; hollywood; Poohbah; Physicist

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2 posted on 11/29/2004 11:06:27 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Southack

Amazing how the defense contractors can invent this stuff that really works.


3 posted on 11/29/2004 11:13:01 PM PST by rawhide
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To: Travis McGee

The information on the anti-IED and anti-mortar product is useful, but sadly, Defense Tech is wildly anti-Bush due to a personal relationship with Spencer Abraham, among others...

4 posted on 11/29/2004 11:17:32 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Reminds me of device used in Beirut in the 1980's the book Rouge Warrior.
5 posted on 11/29/2004 11:27:58 PM PST by TeleStraightShooter (The illogical Left in our country wants to do for Iraq what the USA did for Liberia: FORGET IT!)
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To: Southack

So why are we telling everyone???


6 posted on 11/30/2004 12:09:50 AM PST by quietolong
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To: Southack

Spencer Abraham the soon to be former Energy Secretary? Is he anti-Bush? Am I missing something here?


7 posted on 11/30/2004 12:15:24 AM PST by kms61
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To: Southack

So, this is one of the toys I'll get to play with, once I get in theater!

The ingenuity of the terrorist, versus the innovation of a motivated entrepreneur - guess who wins every time?


8 posted on 11/30/2004 4:51:56 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: centurion316

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9 posted on 11/30/2004 5:02:29 AM PST by centurion316
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To: Travis McGee
Part of the reason this stuff is classified is that the source for the intel is extremely sensitive. We don't want the bad guys to know just how much of their electromagnetic signalling we detect and analyze. (The second part is the really classified part.)
10 posted on 11/30/2004 5:13:58 AM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Southack
The dark blanket of secrecy that's been thrown over any and all information about these roadside bombs is the issue.

That dark blanket is there to keep the enemy from adapting it weapons to defeat our countermeasures and THAT is the real issue.

Any countermeasure detail is information that can be used by an opposing engineer.

Ask Bin Laden about his sattelite phone and whether he uses it anymore. What he didn't know was very dangerous to him.

11 posted on 11/30/2004 5:16:52 AM PST by Tom Bombadil
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To: Southack; First_Salute

Has something been developed to counter the car alarms being used to trigger booby-trapped vehicles?


12 posted on 11/30/2004 5:21:44 AM PST by snopercod (Bigger government means clinton won. Less freedom means Osama won. Get it?)
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To: Southack

Here's another idea. The "insurgents" use cell phones as triggers. When a cell phone is turned on, it has to ping a tower to let the system know where it is. Have the system call back everyone when they turn on their phone. If it's a bomb, it will explode - in the terrorist's hands. Good for one or two tries before they catch on.


13 posted on 11/30/2004 5:25:17 AM PST by Dilbert56
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To: Southack
But doesn’t the farmer example actually argue for more people getting involved in the process – and less secrecy?

I missed the farmer example. Still, I agree -- product and research development secrecy has VERY serious flaws. Not only do you shut out a lot of very smart, cunning and out-of-the-box thinking folks -- but you fortify the castles of the incompentent. The technically incompetent and uninspired are quick as all get out to realize the value of project secrecy in terms of (1) protecting their jobs by radically limiting the client's available market, (2) as a lever applied against the competent to remove them by shutting them out of key information and thereby allowing false charges of incompetence and/or inability to be brought against even the most competent, and (3) to preclude accountibility for failure, schedule overrrun, and incomptence. Once the technically incompetent, yet politically shrewd, learn this they can be quite adept and potent at empowering and enriching themselves while buggering the rest of us.

14 posted on 11/30/2004 5:32:05 AM PST by bvw
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To: Southack

We kinda inferred the existance of these devices, what, about 3 or 4 years ago?


15 posted on 11/30/2004 5:34:17 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: Southack

"THERE'S MORE: Shhh! Keep quiet when you're reading Steven Aftergood's Slate story on why airport screeners don't have to tell you what law they're relying on to give you the pat-down"

A quick fix to this whole "pat-down" problem would be if we could Pick from a team of Pat-Downers who we would like to pat us down.

Of course then the only objection would be that they didn't "finish" or pat us down enough...........


16 posted on 11/30/2004 5:39:13 AM PST by FearlessRightwinger
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To: TeleStraightShooter
"Reminds me of device used in Beirut in the 1980's the book Rouge Warrior."

Yeah, that was great. Marcinko was riding through Beirut with the device running, and blowing up bomb factories they got near. Sadly, the diplomats at the embassy wouldn't let them use it there, allowing the marines guarding it to be vulnerable. According to his version of events.

17 posted on 11/30/2004 6:03:38 AM PST by KoRn
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MI Ping


18 posted on 11/30/2004 6:21:57 AM PST by ASA Vet (What if there were no hypothetical questions?)
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To: Old Sarge

Well, we hope you get to play with it.

Were you here when they tested ShortStop?

They may also be looking at agile jammers...


19 posted on 11/30/2004 6:45:22 AM PST by HiJinx (Support Our Troops ~ www.ProudPatriots.com)
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To: Southack; Travis McGee; ASA Vet

Thanks for the post.

It is amazing how the enemies of America have wrapped the flag around themselves, then burrow into a defense industry, and then work 24/7 to expose our tech secrets to minimize their effectiveness.


20 posted on 11/30/2004 7:13:10 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans = GIM members, GAY INFECTED MEDIA!)
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