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Iraq: Weapons stockpiled in schools, mosques and shrines
The Pentagon, United States Department of Defense. News Transcript ^ | Monday, April 26, 2004 9:38 a.m. EDT | Daniel Senor, Coalition Senior Adviser; and Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, Deputy Director of Opera

Posted on 11/30/2004 5:23:08 AM PST by eakole

"A dangerous situation is developing in Najaf, one that is putting all the law-abiding citizens of that holy city at even greater risk.† Weapons are being stockpiled in schools, mosques and shrines. This explosive situation cannot be tolerated by those who seek a peaceful resolution to this crisis.† The coalition certainly will not tolerate this situation.† The restoration of these holy places to calm places of worship must begin immediately."

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Connecting the Dots: America is Dar al-Harb, Saudi Arabia is Dar al-Islam Iraq: Weapons stockpiled in schools, mosques and shrines

Dot # 1: The Pentagon, United States Department of Defense. News Transcript Presenter: Daniel Senor, Coalition Senior Adviser; and Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, Deputy Director of Operations Monday, April 26, 2004 9:38 a.m. EDT

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2004/04/mil-040426-dod01.htm

"A dangerous situation is developing in Najaf, one that is putting all the law-abiding citizens of that holy city at even greater risk.† Weapons are being stockpiled in schools, mosques and shrines. This explosive situation cannot be tolerated by those who seek a peaceful resolution to this crisis.† The coalition certainly will not tolerate this situation.† The restoration of these holy places to calm places of worship must begin immediately."

Comment: In the last few days, similar announcements have been made about Mosques in Fallujah. Iraq. FR informed me I cannot provide the source document because of copyright considerations. Briefly stated, there are an estimated 100 mosques in Fallujah and half were hiding terrorists and weapons. Many mosques were joined together with tunnels.

Dot # 2a: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_al-Harb

[Excerpt] “Dar al-Harb (Arabic: house of war)* is a term used in many Islamic countries to refer to those areas outside Muslim rule. In some conservative traditions of Islam the world is divided into two components: dar al-Islam,** the house of submission or the house of God, and dar al-Harb, the house of war; the home of the infidels or unbelievers (Arabic: kufr). The terms are usually understood to refer, respectively, to those lands currently administered by Muslim governments and those administered by non-Muslim governments.” *"territory of war," **”Wherever Muslims are in charge and enforce Islamic law. … Muslims are expected to bring God's word and God's will to all of humanity, by force if absolutely necessary,”

Comment: In other words, until all land is under “dar al-Islam” control war between America and Saudi Arabia is inevitable and eternal. I recognize there are other Islamic nations but I consider Saudi Arabia as the primary source of Islamic terrorism.

Dot # 2b: Dar al-Harb vs. Dar al-Islam - From Austin Cline, http://atheism.about.com/od/islamicextremism/a/daralharb.htm

[Excerpt] “…the belief that if any territory that was once a part of dar al-islam comes under the control of dar al-harb, then that represents an attack upon Islam, and it is the obligation of all Muslims to fight in order to retrieve the lost land. This motivates the fanaticism not only in the opposition to secular Arab governments, but also the very existence of the state of Israel. For extremists, Israel is an intrusion of dar al-harb upon territory that properly belongs to dar al-islam; as such, nothing short of restoring Islamic rule to the land is acceptable.”

[Excerpt] “Yes, people will die - including even Muslims, children, and various noncombattants. But the reality is that Muslim ethics is an ethics of duty, not consequences. Ethical behavior is that which is in accordance with God's rules and which obeys God's will; unethical behavior is that which ignores or disobeys God. Terrible consequences may be unfortunate, but they cannot serve as a criterion for evaluating the behavior itself. Only when the behavior is explicitly condemned by God must a Muslim refrain from doing it; of course, even then, clever re-interpretation can often provide extremists with a way to get what they want out of the text of the Qur'an.”

Dot # 3: According to “THE RISE OF ISLAM” Chapter 2 “The RAPID SPREAD OF ISLAM IN AMERICA”

http://www.harunyahya.com/rise03.php

[Excerpt] “According to this research, America now has about 1,209 mosques, most of which were constructed very recently. Thirty percent of these mosques were built in the 1990s, and 32% were built in the 1980s.* Other statistics show that in 1994, the total number of mosques in America was 962; in 2000, there was a 25% increase in this number.”

Comment: I recall reading that Saudi Arabia participated in building and financing most American and Canadian Mosques.

Dot #4: UN to issue alert over spread of nuclear arms By Mark Turner at the United Nations Published: November 30 2004 00:03 | Last updated: November 30 2004 00:03 http://news.ft.com/cms/s/2ecedea6-4260-11d9-8e3c-00000e2511c8.html

[Excerpt] “We are approaching a point at which the erosion of the nuclear regime could become irreversible, and result in a cascade of proliferation.” In 1963, only four states had nuclear arsenals. Today eight states are known to have one, and several others are suspected of developing them. Close to 60 states operate or are building nuclear power or research reactors, and at least 30 possess the infrastructure to build nuclear weapons at relatively short notice. Terrorists are also believed to be seeking them.”

1 posted on 11/30/2004 5:23:09 AM PST by eakole
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To: eakole

I'm shocked!

Shocked I tell you!


2 posted on 11/30/2004 5:29:42 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: eakole

I bet Kofi Annan is "deeply disappointed" about this too......


3 posted on 11/30/2004 5:34:08 AM PST by FearlessRightwinger
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To: eakole

For a country with so many holy cities, they sure have their heads screwed on crooked.


4 posted on 11/30/2004 5:37:55 AM PST by P.O.E. (Thank you, Vets!)
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To: P.O.E.

Muslims are not stupid or foolish. They are in a state of lunacy. “LUNACY, is a disease of the mind, which is differently defined as it applies to a class of disorders, or only to one species of them. As a general term it includes all the varieties of mental, disorders, not fatuous.* Lunacy is the state of one who has bad understanding, but by disease, grief, or other accident, has lost the use of reason."

*Not stupid or idiotic or retarded.


5 posted on 11/30/2004 5:58:40 AM PST by eakole
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To: P.O.E.

"holy" has the opposite meaning to what we in the west think it means.
Islam is the cult of death, it's "god" is hell's administrator, master of it's demons. Western media, infinately stupid, keeps thinking their 'god'is the same as the jodo-christian God; it is not. It's the complete opposite, which should enable people to figure out who it is.


6 posted on 11/30/2004 5:58:58 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: eakole

save for later


7 posted on 11/30/2004 6:06:41 AM PST by 4woodenboats (Let the Mandate Begin!)
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To: eakole

'Bout time they started going through those islamic hell-holes. We've been saying that on FR for a looooooong time.


8 posted on 11/30/2004 6:07:30 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm ( veni vidi vino visa "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: eakole

Bush's fault.


(I know, I know, its getting old.....)


9 posted on 11/30/2004 6:11:18 AM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: Nathan Zachary
It's the complete opposite, which should enable people to figure out who it is.

Yep... they already have the "false prophet". All they are waiting on is the anti-christ. This is where he will come from. A "savior" as it would be... to complete an unholy trinity.

10 posted on 11/30/2004 6:14:48 AM PST by kjam22 (What you win them by, is what you win them to)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

Re: 'Bout time they started going through those islamic hell-holes. We've been saying that on FR for a looooooong time.

A little repetitive "nagging" and "squeeky wheeling" is in order.


11 posted on 11/30/2004 6:16:33 AM PST by eakole
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To: eakole
OK, interesting post. But that was April. Since then we have been taking out the mosques and schools when they are used by insurgents. Moreover, as more Iraqi soldiers come on-line and are battle-tested, they have been more actively involved in attacking the religious fundamentalists... even, I suspect, to the point of conducting assasinations. Last week, somebody took out Sheik Ghalib Ali al-Zuhairi, a member of the Association of Muslim Scholars, an influential Sunni clerics group that has called for a boycott of nationwide elections scheduled for Jan. 30.

Good things are happenin'. And the country of Iraq is changing in front of our eyes. Moreover, two things to keep in mind:

1) What we were carrying as an international strategy for dealing with terrorism under Bill Clinton was not working. They say that the definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again --- and expecting a different result.

2) We have employed a "gambit", a somewhat risky strategy that could have big-time profit. And the hand's not over yet. Indications are that we are being successful to some degree; the recent regional meeting which included Iraq's neighbors was enlightening. We're seeing pronouncements of cooperation with regard to border security, and the kind of behavior that indicates Iraq's neighbors are beginnning to bow to the obvious need for a stable state in Iraq.

Grab your popcorn and soda pops kids! The show's about to start!
12 posted on 11/30/2004 6:24:57 AM PST by StoneGiant
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To: eakole
as usual these islamofacist scum break the so called 'rules of warfare' while their cronies decry US and want to have them treated as kindly as Prisoner of War, complete with Geneva Conventions kindness.

I say we feed them to the pigs.

13 posted on 11/30/2004 6:40:48 AM PST by prophetic ("I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things."--Dan Rather)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Check this out:

http://www.military.com/NewContent/0,13190,GH_Fallujah_112004-P1,00.html


14 posted on 11/30/2004 6:45:00 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm ( veni vidi vino visa "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: kjam22
Yep...I agree...when the Anti Christ comes on the scene and God has given many up
to strong delusion...the muzzies will fall right in line and declare that he is Christ returned
the AC will naturally affirm their beliefs and be approved of by a few key imams and mullahs

Good possibility the AC will have the approval of many Christians, Jews, and Muslims....and probably will be able to claim to be of royal bloodlines from all three religions...

He will be the ultimate unifier..and peacemaker....and utterly ruthless behind the scenes...

imo

15 posted on 11/30/2004 7:06:47 AM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: StoneGiant

Regarding: "OK, interesting post. But that was April."

Two comments. Originally I posted an "USA Today" article that was similiar and more timely than the Pentagon transcript. The "USA Today" article indicated half of Fallujah's 100 Mosques were housing terrorists, and manufacturing, distributing and warehousing all manners of bombs and weaponry.

Because copyright problems existed, FR killed the "Today" Article. I then decided to use another source. Nonetheless, the two events are similiar in context.

2nd: The post is NOT uniquely about Iraq. It's sole intent is to return our attention to a pressing local threat to every community. We should constantly remind ourselves that we have an American/Mosque problem in America that requires our **immediate** attention.


16 posted on 11/30/2004 7:26:05 AM PST by eakole
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