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ABC News: Ridge to Resign, Sources Say
ABC Radio News | 11-30-04

Posted on 11/30/2004 10:02:30 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; bush43; cabinet; dhs; giuliani; homelandsecurity; resignation; rudolf; rudolfgiuliani; rudy; rudygiuliani; term2; terrorists; tomridge; w; w2; waronterror; wot
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To: Peach

Peach, that is a very smart thing to do. I think I'll begin doing the same. Very smart. Thanks for the tip. (Going to lunch now. Will check back later.)


151 posted on 11/30/2004 12:31:44 PM PST by Wolfstar (Counting down the days to when the new White House puppy arrives.)
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To: johnfkerrysucks; lightingguy

What a great picture with the towers in the background.


152 posted on 11/30/2004 12:32:24 PM PST by agrace
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To: skip_intro

Why in the HELL has Mineta been able to lodge himself in that position like a PC J. Edgar Hoover?


153 posted on 11/30/2004 12:34:45 PM PST by johnb838 ("To Hell They Will Go" -- The Iyad Allawi Story.)
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To: JustAnAmerican
Let me phrase this in words you can understand,

LOL

154 posted on 11/30/2004 12:34:46 PM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: truthkeeper

I am not a Rudy fan for President. I would LOVE to see Zero Tolerance for Crime Rudy running DHS. He would be GREAT! I wanted to see him there or at Justice. If he gets DHS I could try to forgive the MECHA Gonzales at State.


155 posted on 11/30/2004 12:36:45 PM PST by johnb838 ("To Hell They Will Go" -- The Iyad Allawi Story.)
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To: areafiftyone

NNNnnoooooooo Not Hutchison! I think he would have a confirmation fight on his hands. Hutch should go with "Garden" Ridge.


156 posted on 11/30/2004 12:37:58 PM PST by johnb838 ("To Hell They Will Go" -- The Iyad Allawi Story.)
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To: cyncooper
Leon Harris speaking (foolishly) about how this represents the variety of issues "Canadians" have with the administration

Yep.. there were NEVER any protests when Clinton was town ... / sarcasum >

157 posted on 11/30/2004 12:39:07 PM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: Wolfstar
White House homeland security adviser Fran Townsend.

The current US News has an article about her. I'm wondering if the MSM wants her to replace Ridge... She's Janet Reno's close adviser, but claimed to be Republican and gave $2,000 to BC campaign.

158 posted on 11/30/2004 12:41:22 PM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: cyncooper

Speaking of busing to Canada .. check this out

http://blog.democrats.com/node/859

And here .. they are charging a bus fee

http://blog.democrats.com/node/899


159 posted on 11/30/2004 12:45:10 PM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: aculeus
Did "Rainbow" Ridge come up with the "raspberry Red, lemon Yellow, orange Orange" Threat Level Flavor Coding system all by himself ?
160 posted on 11/30/2004 12:53:11 PM PST by repentant_pundit (For the Sons and Daughters of Every Planet on the Earth)
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To: paudio

Really? I saw her handle a news conference a few weeks back and thought she was brilliant.

She also is a registered Republican. Perhaps we should thank our lucky stars she was working in the Reno DOJ, possibly keeping God knows what in check.


161 posted on 11/30/2004 12:58:40 PM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Mo1

Well! Someone tell Leon, he thinks these are Canadians assembling with sincere "grievances".

LOL

(I know, I know, Leon probably knows but "reports" the talking points anyway)


162 posted on 11/30/2004 1:00:27 PM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: repentant_pundit

You got a better idea?


163 posted on 11/30/2004 1:01:18 PM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: All

Not Lieberman!!! He is a loserman!


164 posted on 11/30/2004 1:01:50 PM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: areafiftyone

It's official... we got the memo.


165 posted on 11/30/2004 1:03:31 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: South40

With all due respect, you do know who sets the agenda for the Dept of Homeland Security, right.


166 posted on 11/30/2004 1:23:27 PM PST by dmz
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Late and had to do a quick search. It's a darned shame; I was really hoping to encourage him to stay. From 2001 when the president announced the creation of the new department a little over a year before Daschle and company finally allowed the Office of Homeland Security to be created until the present day, Tom Ridge has gotten blamed for absolutely everything that has gone wrong inthis country, from traffic accidents to train derailments and tornnados and it is just not fair guys. He did a good job.

D@mn. Forget Rudy...Homeland Security requires more competence than presence. Kerrik maybe if he'd take it.

167 posted on 11/30/2004 1:31:53 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cyncooper
Well! Someone tell Leon, he thinks these are Canadians assembling with sincere "grievances".

I'm sure some are .. but my guess is that most are anarchists out to start trouble

But if you ask me ... they seemed to have hated Clinton more

Though I highly doubt that Leon would ever admit to it

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/528012.stm

Protesters set dozens of shops ablaze

Thousands of left-wing protesters chanting anti-American slogans have clashed with police and set dozens of shops ablaze at the start of a delayed state visit by US President Bill Clinton to Athens.

168 posted on 11/30/2004 1:35:31 PM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: alessandrofiaschi

I doubt Rudy will take it - its a thankless job, no recognition when attacks are prevented, and only scorn about policies implemented; and god forbid there is an attack, its the "scapegoat" position.


170 posted on 11/30/2004 1:39:32 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
"... its the 'scapegoat' position"

Indeed it is, though it doesn't really have to be.

171 posted on 11/30/2004 1:45:06 PM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: newzjunkey

I am somewhat surprised there is so much dislike of Asa. I know him personally and he is a true conservative. He is much more of a conservative than Rudy though he does not have the star power. For those of you who have forgotten, Asa was awesome during the Clinton impeachment. The problem Asa has, that we all have sometimes, is that he has to do what is asked of him even if he may not completely agree with it. I doubt Asa wants an open boarder but the president does. Is Rudy going to do what he wants or what the president wants? If there is a better man or more true conservative in the administration, I'd love to know who it is.


172 posted on 11/30/2004 1:48:03 PM PST by Dr. Hog
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To: All

I say Rudy Giuliani or Bernie Kerik fill the post, these guys know how to handle crime and terrorism, first hand, unlike the other Belt-way boys who sot back and watch.


173 posted on 11/30/2004 2:06:14 PM PST by CJR812
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To: dmz
With all due respect, you do know who sets the agenda for the Dept of Homeland Security, right.

Of course I do. But my problems with Ridge are based on more than just the administration’s agenda.

I attended a Townhall Meeting last January at Channel 10 in San Diego; Ridge was the guest speaker. I had discussions with many other audience members while waiting for things to get rolling. Many, and I mean many were there for one reason and one reason only; to ask Ridge what, if anything he and the DHS is doing about our porous borders.

We were asked to write our questions down on index cards prior to the meeting. I filled out 5, all with the same question. Many around me had the same question also; what, if anything was the DHS doing about our porous borders? All this considered, you would think Ridge would have addressed the issue; even a cursory mention would have been acceptable. But I, and those around me, were astounded when the thing ended and not once did Ridge address that question. He avoided it completely. I had another chance and was going to ask him when I shook his hand after the event but the woman ahead of me beat me to it. His response was doublespeak, reminiscent of what you might hear at a John Kerry campaign stop….something to the affect of “We’ve got people on that”. What a crock. I stepped out of line as I no longer wanted to shake his hand.

I know Ridge personally didn’t choose the questions. And I know it is his job to follow the agenda of the pres. But for the 200+ San Diegans in attendance that evening, and many who watched it live on C-SPAN, he proved himself to be spineless in dealing with real issues of the common people. He visited a border town and refused to respond to border issues. He is a coward.

As I said, good riddance.

174 posted on 11/30/2004 2:47:11 PM PST by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: JustAnAmerican
Anyone that thinks Bush will appoint someone who is interested in securing our borders is living in a dream world

Unfortunately, you're probably right. Ridge, Hutchinson, Powell, and almost all of the borders team, have been along on Bush's wild hispandering ride. The only guy not on board, Ashcroft, is being replaced by a la Raza affiliate official.

175 posted on 11/30/2004 2:51:00 PM PST by dagnabbit (Don't let Europe happen to America. Tell Bush & Congress to stop their massive Islamic immigration.)
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To: newzjunkey
So is the President. We have to rely n Congress to do its duty and not simply fall into partisan line. The intelligence bill question is encouraging.
176 posted on 11/30/2004 3:45:29 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (The Senate is our new goal: 60 in '06.)
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To: All

Taking the job would HELP Rudy in 2008, this will thrust him back into the spotlight, and keep him there, ridge resigned after 2 years, so Rudy can resign at four.


177 posted on 11/30/2004 3:47:13 PM PST by CJR812
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To: cyncooper
If you'd read this thread, you'd see that aculeus has your better idea right here.
178 posted on 11/30/2004 4:12:11 PM PST by repentant_pundit (For the Sons and Daughters of Every Planet on the Earth)
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To: Dr. Hog
I doubt Asa wants an open boarder but the president does

Well, at least you can admit it. Maybe Asa should grow a spine and say so if he doesn't agree with it. If that means resignation, well....

179 posted on 11/30/2004 4:16:29 PM PST by Regulator
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To: repentant_pundit

Well, that's non-sensical. I asked about your mocking of terror alert levels, not about the other aspects of the position.

I wasn't defending Ridge, either, as I noted early on this thread I am no fan of his.


180 posted on 11/30/2004 4:21:45 PM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: skip_intro
I think that's under Norman Minetta's control, and it doesn't appear that he's going anywhere.

Nope, not anymore. The FAA is under Mineta, but the FAA's security functions were transferred to the newly created TSA, which is under Homeland Security.

181 posted on 11/30/2004 4:32:53 PM PST by xjcsa (Everything matters if anything matters at all...)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

I think y'all are missing one obvious choice for a replacement.

The replacement needs to be someone who's conservative. Someone who is truly passionate about protecting our nation. Someone who is even willing to buck the existing power structure to do what is right.

It would also be helpful to have someone who is an experienced administrator, like an ex-governor. But it should also be someone who is familiar with Washington politics. The President values loyalty, so it has to be someone he trusts.

Given that this is a politically risky job, the person selected should not be someone who is planning to seek elected office in the future. And even better if that person is moving out of their current job.

The President might even want to reach across the partisan divide and appoint someone who happens to be a Democrat.

Zell Miller seems to fit the bill pretty well.


182 posted on 11/30/2004 5:16:24 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Rumors of the demise of the conservative Democrat have been greatly exaggerated)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

You don't know Jack, Diddle E. Squat...


183 posted on 11/30/2004 6:55:01 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: newzjunkey

Ole!


184 posted on 11/30/2004 6:55:28 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

wasnt there a rumor going around a few months ago that his health might be suffering a bit?

Anyway, hopefully he is getting out of there mostly intact.

I doubt that Rudy will take up the position, mainly because I dont think he wants to get too involved with any administration right now, which might dim his chances either in 2006 (not likely) or 2008 (his likely goal).

I think Tommy Franks would be an excellent choice or maybe Ollie North, if you can get him to take a pay cut....


185 posted on 12/01/2004 2:07:26 AM PST by MikefromOhio (40 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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To: kellynla

Exactly, we need Rudy here in NY. Rudy can only fill the position until 2006 ;)


186 posted on 12/01/2004 4:37:26 AM PST by GodBlessUSA (Support, Prayers and Thanks to our Troops!)
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To: cyncooper

Your not alone. Ridge should have stayed Governor. He was not effective in this position.


187 posted on 12/01/2004 4:54:20 AM PST by GodBlessUSA (Support, Prayers and Thanks to our Troops!)
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To: Ramcat
***Thank you MR. Ridge. You've answered your country's call to service many times. You've served with honor. Future servants will have a view made possible by the foundation you've established. God bless you and your family.***

Bears repeating. The man took a near impossible assignment and did his best. His detractors are still alive & free to criticize him. I add my thanks to him.

188 posted on 12/01/2004 5:13:19 AM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: cyncooper
OK, regarding the "threat level" colors: our borders and ports are still about as porous as they were on Sept. 10, 2001. Al Queda still wants us all dead, and they have the ability to get WMD thru the border.

So let's simplify this whole color scheme thing...keep the alert level at RED until the borders are really secured.

189 posted on 12/01/2004 7:00:10 AM PST by repentant_pundit (For the Sons and Daughters of Every Planet on the Earth)
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To: newzjunkey

When the POTUS finally settles down in Washington, I hope we begin to get the lowdown on exactly what he's promised
the sly Fox, and what compromises he's made with the North.

How can this man not understand what he's doing to this country with his border policy?


190 posted on 12/01/2004 7:19:14 AM PST by Paperdoll
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To: kellynla

Excellent plan. I second that motion.


191 posted on 12/01/2004 7:56:51 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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