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Kerry aide pans nasty Bush run
NYU News ^ | 11/30/04 | Jesse Greenspan

Posted on 11/30/2004 11:38:53 AM PST by dukeman

George W. Bush ran the most negative presidential campaign in history, and the media never covered the story, an aide to Sen. John Kerry's campaign said last Monday at the journalism department.

Marco Trbovich, a United Steelworkers of America employee who advised Kerry on labor policy, told the 20 students gathered at Carter Hall that about 80 percent of Bush's campaign money was spent on negative advertising.

"If you can think of a few positive commercials that you saw, you saw all of them that were there," he said.

Bush's campaign played upon fear, using patriotic and religious fervor to make voters fear Kerry and the changes he might bring, Trbovich said.

"The Bush strategy worked, creating a big question mark over John Kerry's ability to lead," he said.

Trbovich, who spoke as part of the journalism department's "brown bag" lecture series, singled out two campaign phenomena that he said the media covered particularly poorly: a Bush ad about Kerry's health care plan that Trbovich called completely false, and the months-long smear campaign by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which claimed, among other things, that Kerry faked injuries in Vietnam.

"The Kerry campaign didn't act fast enough because it wasn't cynical enough about the media [to think] that controversy was more important than context," said Trbovich, who has reported for United Press International, the Detroit Free Press and The Boston Phoenix, among other news organizations.

"I think [Bush strategist Karl] Rove is appropriately cynical about the quality -- or lack of it -- in the American media these days," he said.

Trbovich also credited Rove for successfully enlarging the base of the Republican Party, something he said his own party failed to do. He was particularly disappointed in the Democrats' failure to reach blue-collar workers.

"We had a very yuppified campaign," he said, citing as an example Kerry's five speechwriters, all of whom were Harvard University graduates and were under 30. "I could never convince those people that the privatization of Social Security was a big issue."

He also said labor had been marginalized, adding, "There's a kind of elitism to the Democratic Party."

Trbovich has known Kerry for more than 30 years, he said, and even worked as communications director of Kerry's failed 1972 congressional campaign. He said the Massachusetts senator has more integrity and intelligence than almost anyone else he knows. He added, however, that unlike Bill Clinton, Kerry's intellect is at stronger than his political ear.

"Excuse my language, but you've literally got to beat the shit out of John Kerry sometimes to get him where you want him to go," he said. •


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004electionbias; billionaregigolo; brownshirtsforkerry; bushwins; civilwar2; civilwarii; electionviolence; goebbelswouldbeproud; howtostealanelection; johnkerry; kerrycampaign; kerrydefeat; liberalelites; mediabias; mediaelites; swiftboatveterans; swiftvets; thebiglie; traitorslose
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George W. knew that about Kerry, too, so he beat the **** out of him and got him to go.

So I guess in 2008 we'll see a few community college grads writing speeches for the Dem campaign?

1 posted on 11/30/2004 11:38:53 AM PST by dukeman
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To: dukeman

The losers always have excuses.


2 posted on 11/30/2004 11:40:07 AM PST by TheBigB (I sure could go for a charbroiled hamburger sammich and some french fried potatoes!)
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To: dukeman

BOO-HOO!


3 posted on 11/30/2004 11:40:49 AM PST by shibumi (John Galt is alive and well. He tends bar in a casino restaurant.)
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To: dukeman

Alternate universe?


4 posted on 11/30/2004 11:40:54 AM PST by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
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To: dukeman
George W. Bush ran the most negative presidential campaign in history

Release your service record, Kerry.

5 posted on 11/30/2004 11:40:59 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: dukeman

More whining from the looney left. Also, no mention of all the mudslinging that went on from their side - naturally.

Those that live in glass houses.......


6 posted on 11/30/2004 11:42:12 AM PST by dansangel (Thank you Veterans past and present!)
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To: dukeman

Wait just a doggone minute! Bush ran a negative campaign and sKerry didn't. What a crock! Everytime I saw a sKerry ad (I tried not to see any at all) it was negative. Same old ploy from the liberal leftist demoncRATS--"everyone else is wrong and bad but us" mentality.


7 posted on 11/30/2004 11:42:47 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: dukeman

8 posted on 11/30/2004 11:43:02 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dukeman

"Bush knew about 9/11"

"When Clinton lied, nobody died."

"Bush concocted a war in Texas, and killed US soldiers for oil"

"Bush was AWOL, and we have fake documents to prove it."

Sounds like the most positive political attacks in history, don't you think?


9 posted on 11/30/2004 11:44:03 AM PST by mike182d
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To: dukeman
He is regularly quoted in People's World Weekly and his goons carry on like below.


US Steelworkers and Che---what's the connection?>

10 posted on 11/30/2004 11:44:31 AM PST by eleni121 (NO more reaching out!)
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To: dukeman

Proving once again that having intellect does not mean that you have common sense.


11 posted on 11/30/2004 11:44:34 AM PST by rabidralph (George W. Bush, the other Body Hammer)
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To: dansangel

The labor boys are always thowing rocks at their opposition and complaining when someone throws one back.

BTW...I bet that boy has never worked one day inside a steel mill. He's a paid soft handed flack probably on a cushy contract with a buddy or relative in the union hierarchy.


12 posted on 11/30/2004 11:44:43 AM PST by nuke rocketeer
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To: nuke rocketeer

I'll wager you're not far from the truth!


13 posted on 11/30/2004 11:45:43 AM PST by dansangel (Thank you Veterans past and present!)
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To: dukeman
If the story wasn't covered then I guess there was no story to cover.

Not that the media didn't try to say the campaigns were negative on both sides.......but we knew better!!!

14 posted on 11/30/2004 11:45:50 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: dukeman
"The Kerry campaign didn't act fast enough because it wasn't cynical enough about the media [to think] that controversy was more important than context,"

Ha! The Kerry campaign thought that because they had the old media in their pocket, that would be enough! NOT!

15 posted on 11/30/2004 11:45:50 AM PST by Radix (Tag Line place holder.)
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To: dukeman

--==((Huuuurl))==--


16 posted on 11/30/2004 11:46:02 AM PST by MarineBrat (SELECT * FROM liberals WHERE clue > 0...... - Zero rows returned!)
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To: dukeman

...and so the myth begins...


17 posted on 11/30/2004 11:46:19 AM PST by WoodstockCat (W2 !!! Four more Years!!)
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To: dukeman
Michael Big Mouth Moore, Kittie Litter, Dan Rather Not, George Anti America Soros, HolliWeirdos,.....need I say more. W had the enough class not to attack kerry like sinister kerry attacked the President.
18 posted on 11/30/2004 11:46:39 AM PST by marmar (Faith is a beautiful thing.....)
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To: dukeman

Screw these people! Bush was attacked without mercy from the 2000 election until the 2004 election and he remained positive and friendly for about the first two-and-a-half years and only then he spoke out against the obstructionists in the Senate who were holding up his judicial nominees. Once sKerry had the Dummycrap nomination wrapped up, he went virulently negative on Bush on a daily basis for at least four weeks and maybe as many as eight weeks without any response from Bush. When Bush finally responded to 4-8 weeks of negative campaigning by sKerry, sKerry went ballistic, accusing Bush of going negative. Screw all these losers.


19 posted on 11/30/2004 11:46:47 AM PST by bushisdamanin04
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To: dukeman
He also said labor had been marginalized

Man, November has been a GREAT month, hasn't it?

20 posted on 11/30/2004 11:48:00 AM PST by Howlin (W, Still the President)
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To: dukeman

Where do I start?

So much about what this guy is saying is wrong and even he himself contracdicts it.

The media didn't cover Bush's "nasty" campaign because they knew much of it was true and didn't want the charges to stick to Kerry.

Secondly, the reason Bush was able to portray Kerry as a weak and dangerous leader is because...he is. For most Americans, it was rather obvious too.

Frankly, I thought the Republicans rarely even took off the gloves. They hardly made his treasonous post-Vietnam behavior an issue, they hardly touched his Senate record, they rarely trumpeted his opposition to tax cuts. They were just happy to paint him as a wishy-washy hypocrite. I guess that's all they needed to do.


21 posted on 11/30/2004 11:48:02 AM PST by Tall_Texan (Let's REALLY Split The Country! (http://righteverytime3.blogspot.com))
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To: dukeman
Told the twenty students gathered

HA! HA! Such a wide audience for this "goon". This was the only good part about this article.

22 posted on 11/30/2004 11:48:06 AM PST by builder (I don't want a piece of someone else's pie)
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To: dukeman
...and the months-long smear campaign by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which claimed, among other things, that Kerry faked injuries in Vietnam.

"The Kerry campaign didn't act fast enough because it wasn't cynical enough about the media [to think] that controversy was more important than context," said Trbovich, who has reported for United Press International, the Detroit Free Press and The Boston Phoenix, among other news organizations.

The Democrats may have been illegally coordinating campaign strategy with the 527s (there is evidence they did with Soros, MoveOn, and others) but President Bush DID NOT work together with the Swift Vets and to claim that this was a part of the "Bush campaign" is an outright lie.

That said, Kerry's response was to surround himself with veterans and attack George W. Bush's National Guard experience. "He didn't fight", "He wasn't injured", "He got there by crooked means", "He was poorly rated", "He skipped out". The DNC even helped to coordinate a hoaxed up smear campaign with some phoney memos that CBS ran with for a week.

Kerry said it was wrong to attack veterans yet he repeatedly attacked the Swift Vets. He said that George W. Bush "didn't really serve" yet Kerry went stumping with Bill Clinton, a known draft dodger.

These Rats make me sick.

23 posted on 11/30/2004 11:48:36 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: dukeman

20 people? I had more than that at dinner the other night


24 posted on 11/30/2004 11:49:58 AM PST by skaterboy (Cant wait for tomorrow cause I get better looking everyday)
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To: dukeman

I really enjoy how the left and even Kerry's own campaign people are saying he was a lousy person. And this is the guy they tried to sell us? Hah!


25 posted on 11/30/2004 11:50:16 AM PST by G32
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To: dukeman
He said the Massachusetts senator has more integrity and intelligence than almost anyone else he knows.

That sure says a lot about the kind of people he knows, doesn't it?

26 posted on 11/30/2004 11:50:18 AM PST by Bob
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To: dukeman
Trbovich also credited Rove for successfully enlarging the base of the Republican Party, something he said his own party failed to do.

I disagree! I think the Democrats did a tremendous job in enlarging the base of the Republican Party...

27 posted on 11/30/2004 11:51:02 AM PST by COBOL2Java (If this isn't the End Times it certainly is a reasonable facsimile...)
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To: rabidralph

I'm not so sure that Mr. Trbovic is an unerring judge of intellect.


28 posted on 11/30/2004 11:51:52 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: dukeman

Let's see: Kitty Kelly plagiarized an Alabama web site in order to pass along the lie that "Bush was a cokehead" in her latest book.

Maureen Dowd at the NY Times fabricated a quote from President Bush in order to smear him as having somehow said that we were going to war only over WMD's in Iraq.

AP Reporter Tom Hayes fabricated from whole cloth that somehow Republicans at a Bush rally "booed" when President Bush asked for prayers for Clinton's heart surgery.

CBS News let Dan Rather publish forged military documents in yet another attempt to smear President Bush, too.

Terry McAuliffe claimed that President Bush was going to stop payment on all Social Security checks, and the LA Times managed to even claim that President Bush was bringing back the draft (even though the bill to revive the draft was submitted by Democrats Wrangel and Schumer).

The NY Times devoted over a month of Front Page "news" to a year-old Abu Ghraib scandal perpetrated by a rogue unit of gay and bi-sexual prison guards, with the blame somehow being all Bush's fault. Then the NY Times managed to dig up an 18 month old "missing explosives" story and somehow claim that it was Bush's fault that 370 tons of high explosives weren't guarded, even though Iraqi government documents showed only 3 tons of explosives were there in the first place when Americans arrived.

Democrats at the CIA published a book *during* the Presidential campaign that blamed Bush for not catching Osama, leaked classified intel to damage the President, and botched their own investigation into Iraqi uranium purchases in Africa (e.g. Joe Wilson sat in a hotel and drank hot tea).

But *Republicans* had the nasty campaign?! That's purely laughable.

29 posted on 11/30/2004 11:52:03 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: eleni121

I don't know, I do see that he is shaking hands with black masked radicals. Perhaps they don't want the FBI taking their picture.


30 posted on 11/30/2004 11:52:52 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: eleni121

Is this Mr. Trbovic himself?


31 posted on 11/30/2004 11:54:07 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: dukeman

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE February 28, 2002
Contact: Gary Hubbard (202) 256-8125, or
Marco Trbovich (412) 418-7513

Thousands from America's Steel Communities
Rally at the White House, Imploring the President
to Impose 40% Tariffs on Imported Steel


32 posted on 11/30/2004 11:55:02 AM PST by OwnershipSociety
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To: dukeman

What a crock a' shit!


33 posted on 11/30/2004 11:55:07 AM PST by ladiesview61
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To: eleni121

BTW, where was this photo taken? The guy in the background with the bushy hair and the green shirt looks scarily like a certain leftist I know.


34 posted on 11/30/2004 11:55:57 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: dukeman
Here is the REAL negative campaign story that was overlooked by the mainstream media. This should have been HEADLINE news as it was the first shots of Civil War II.

When angry Democrats attack - DemocRat Violence and Vandalism documents (Brownshirts for Kerry)

Even today, the DUmmies are calling for violent revolution over the election.

35 posted on 11/30/2004 11:57:16 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Tall_Texan
"the Republicans rarely even took off the gloves. They hardly made his treasonous post-Vietnam behavior an issue, they hardly touched his Senate record, they rarely trumpeted his opposition to tax cuts. They were just happy to paint him as a wishy-washy hypocrite. I guess that's all they needed to do."

Indeed. Senator Kerry was never close enough in the polls for us to have to air his treasonous meetings in Paris with North Vietnamese Communist leaders. Instead, we were able to go with a more positive, healing campaign simply because we were always ahead (as well as better people).

36 posted on 11/30/2004 11:57:17 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: eleni121

Unbelievably, the guy in the blue on black T-shirt and shorts in the background right of the picture also looks uncannily like one of the bushy-haired dude's friends.


37 posted on 11/30/2004 11:57:47 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake
George W. Bush ran the most negative presidential campaign in history

Yeah, right. And, the rat ad showing the fireman hosing down a black man & saying the republicans will do it again was WHAT?

38 posted on 11/30/2004 11:58:28 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: OldFriend

Halperin/ABC News Memo Dated Friday October 8, 2004


It goes without saying that the stakes are getting very high for the country and the campaigns - and our responsibilities become quite grave
I do not want to set off (sp?) and endless colloquy that none of us have time for today - nor do I want to stifle one. Please respond if you feel you can advance the discussion.

The New York Times (Nagourney/Stevenson) and Howard Fineman on the web both make the same point today: the current Bush attacks on Kerry involve distortions and taking things out of context in a way that goes beyond what Kerry has done.

Kerry distorts, takes out of context, and mistakes all the time, but these are not central to his efforts to win.

We have a responsibility to hold both sides accountable to the public interest, but that doesn't mean we reflexively and artificially hold both sides "equally" accountable when the facts don't warrant that.

I'm sure many of you have this week felt the stepped up Bush efforts to complain about our coverage. This is all part of their efforts to get away with as much as possible with the stepped up, renewed efforts to win the election by destroying Senator Kerry at least partly through distortions.

It's up to Kerry to defend himself, of course. But as one of the few news organizations with the skill and strength to help voters evaluate what the candidates are saying to serve the public interest. Now is the time for all of us to step up and do that right.


39 posted on 11/30/2004 12:00:38 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: dukeman
"..."We had a very yuppified campaign," he said, citing as an example Kerry's five speechwriters, all of whom were Harvard University graduates and were under 30. "I could never convince those people that the privatization of Social Security was a big issue." ..."

And these idiots wanted to lead the free world? He let children run his campaign????

40 posted on 11/30/2004 12:01:56 PM PST by Mr. K ((this space for rent))
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To: Southack

Don't forget MTV's phoney draft scare to encourage young voters to "Vote (Kerry) or Die!"


41 posted on 11/30/2004 12:02:41 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: dukeman

I sure hope the democrats keep thinking and talking like Trbovich is, pushing the party further and further into delusional, far-left territory.


42 posted on 11/30/2004 12:05:19 PM PST by Bonaparte (...the rest of the shipment, standard equipment...)
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To: dukeman

It's time to cry victim.


43 posted on 11/30/2004 12:06:43 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: Howlin

"He also said labor had been marginalized"
The same labor that built the nice tunnel in boston that is flooding?
Only cost $14.6 Billion!


44 posted on 11/30/2004 12:07:02 PM PST by Holicheese (MMMMMM I like Canukistan strippers!)
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To: dukeman

What really irks me is the connection between Bush and the SBVs .. there is no connection. Of course, because the liberals had a documented connection between the Kerry campaign, the DNC and ALL THE LIBERAL 527's .. the liberals wrongly believe Bush did it too.

It's just the usual "projection technique". You blame others for what you are doing.


45 posted on 11/30/2004 12:07:27 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: wideawake

No I don't think so...just one of his goons.

http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/11/1661487.php


46 posted on 11/30/2004 12:07:29 PM PST by eleni121 (NO more reaching out!)
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To: dukeman
He said the Massachusetts senator has more integrity and intelligence than almost anyone else he knows.

Marco evidently knows very few people. If he can equate indecisiveness with intelligence and integrity with being a turncoat gigolo, he really needs a new dictionary.

47 posted on 11/30/2004 12:07:55 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: wideawake

More info at:

http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/11/1661487.php


48 posted on 11/30/2004 12:08:10 PM PST by eleni121 (NO more reaching out!)
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To: dukeman

He said the Massachusetts senator has more integrity and intelligence than almost anyone else he knows

Thats strange, I didn't detect much integrity or intelligence


49 posted on 11/30/2004 12:12:37 PM PST by oldbrowser (You lost the election.....................Get over it.)
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To: nuke rocketeer
"BTW...I bet that boy has never worked one day inside a steel mill. He's a paid soft handed flack probably on a cushy contract with a buddy or relative in the union hierarchy."

I am going back to about 1960...My uncle owned and operated a
plastic injection molding company in Mineola, NY.
He and his wife were on call 24 hours a day, working their fingers to the bone, before he sold the business and retired to a mountain top ranch in Arkansas.
During his last year, the union picketed his factory.

Now, uncle Buck is a small but wiry guy who would not take anything of of anyone.
He walked up to one picketer one morning...grabbed his hand, turned it over, and said " You G******, Son of a B****, You never worked a g****** day in your life...Now get the H*** away from here, or I will beat the H*** out of you.
50 posted on 11/30/2004 12:12:51 PM PST by AlexW
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