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TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO DECEMBER, 2004 DAILIES THREAD: NEWS DIGEST & GRASSROOTS ACTIVISM
various sources | 12/1/04 | various sources

Posted on 11/30/2004 8:06:26 PM PST by cyn

Welcome to Terri's December Dailies thread. This is where we place links to other Terri threads at Free Republic and other breaking news about Terri Schindler-Schiavo.

In addition, this is a place to meet and plan ways to use grassroots activism to help Terri's Fight.

If you are a newbie to Terri's Fight, I urge you to visit http://www.terrisfight.org where you can subscribe to their newsletter, can get up to speed on the court cases and the very long struggle.

Please consider joining us. The pay isn't very good lol but it is rewarding to help Terri nonetheless. Terri's life has as much value as anyone else's. The right to die movement needs a counter-balance. That freepers, is where we come in. -- floriduh voter

To help you keep up with most important and breaking news, ping or freepmail Ohioan from Florida and ask to be added to the “ping” (notification) list.

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LAST MONTH/NOV TERRI DAILIES THREAD -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1264875/posts

Current project: Please sign TERRI’S BIRTHDAY CARD -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1283113/posts.

Send your own birthday cards to Terri at http://www.Terrisfight.org -- tuck in a small check if you are able, it will be so greatly appreciated.

This is a busy time of the year for us all. Please keep Terri and her family and their efforts in your prayers and check by/bump this thread periodically and PLEASE SIGN TERRI’S BIRTHDAY CARD.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: dailiesthread; schiavo; stpetersburg; terrischiavo; terrischindler; terrisfight; wifekiller
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Further note from floriduh voter: I placed this thread under "extended news". I would ask the admin mods to respect this placement. There's nothing more conservative than helping an innocent woman who is surrounded by activist judges and horrid laws that need to be revisited.

Finally, this is a reminder to please keep Terri in your thoughts and prayers. Terri's 41st birthday is on DECEMBER 3RD. Please post on TERRI’S BIRTHDAY CARD THREAD which will go to Terri's parents and siblings.

How important you are to Terri's Fight is immeasurable! -- floriduh voter


1 posted on 11/30/2004 8:06:27 PM PST by cyn
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Celebration of Life!

Please Join Us In Celebration of Terri's Birthday!

We are hoping Michael Schiavo will allow Terri to attend her party!

Sunday, December 12, 2004

2:00 - 6:00 PM ET

Helen Howarth Park
6301 94th Avenue North
Pinellas Park, Florida

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Monsignor Malanowski will
begin a birthday prayer for Terri
at 5:00 PM

* * * *
Hot Dog Barbecue
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LIVE MUSIC
*
Special Guest Speakers
*
Visit with Terri's Family
*
Meet & talk with Terri's special friends

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"CELEBRATION OF LIFE"
Wayne Galley LIVE
WAYNE TRAVELS FROM CALIFORNIA TO SING
FOR TERRI AND TO MEET TERRI'S FRIENDS. [Wow!]

The "Life" CD will be available for purchase at the party.
Have your "LIFE" CD autographed by Wayne.

Listen to DEMOS of the music NOW at:
http://www.hospicepatients.org/life-cd.html

The Purchase of LIFE CD Helps to support Terri's Foundation
http://www.terrisfight.org

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Party Location:

Helen Howarth Park
6301 94th Avenue North
Pinellas Park, Florida
Directions:

From I-4 coming from Orlando to Tampa

Take the I-4 West
Take the I-275 S exit on the left.
Merge onto I-275 S.
Take the SR-688 W/ULMERTON RD exit, exit number 31B, towards LARGO.
Merge onto ULMERTON RD. (Drive 4.90 miles)
Turn LEFT onto 66TH ST
Turn LEFT onto 94TH AVE N.
From: Tampa Across Gandy Bridge :
Stay west across Gandy Bridge.
Continue on Gandy Boulevard
Gandy Boulevard turns into Park Blvd.
Turn Right off of Park Boulevard on to 66th Street (Drive North)
Turn Right on to 94th Avenue North
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For those wishing to mail Terri and her family, her address is:

Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation
4615 Gulf Blvd #104-103
St. Petersburg Beach, Florida 33706

Please do not mail birthday cards to Hospice! Thank you.

Contact:
Cheryl Ford RN
Fight4Terri@aol.com
813-695-0870

2 posted on 11/30/2004 8:09:27 PM PST by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo, her family, & her friends)
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Oh, did I mention that we would really appreciate it if you could take a moment to sign or post something to TERRI’S BIRTHDAY CARD? :o) Don’t be shy, ya’ll! You're the best, you've been here for Terri for so long -- thanks so much.

3 posted on 11/30/2004 8:11:19 PM PST by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo, her family, & her friends)
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To: cyn
I placed this thread under "extended news". I would ask the admin mods to respect this placement. There's nothing more conservative...

Many, many conservatives don't think the state, church or courts should have any say in an end of life issue. Please don't presume to speak for all conservatives.

4 posted on 11/30/2004 8:16:33 PM PST by Drango (Those who advocate robbing (taxing) Peter to pay Paul...will always have the support of Paul.)
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This thread is dedicated to all those
many, many wonderful people on and off FR
who have been working for so long
to return Terri to her family's care.

Terri -- Home for the Holidays?

Terri and her mom

5 posted on 11/30/2004 8:17:59 PM PST by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo, her family, & her friends)
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To: FL_engineer
FL definition of persistent vegetative state, PVS:
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From video Terri Big Eyes; see it at http:www.terrisfight.org

Terri starts out apparently asleep. A doctor wakes her to start his tests.

Doctor: Terri. Open your eyes up...

Terri: (Startled at hearing her name. She starts moving her mouth and fluttering her eyes, like a person who is just waking up)

Doctor: Open your eyes, Terri open your eyes

Terri: (slowly at first, Terri struggles to open her eyes, then turns toward the doctor, and opens her eyes a normal amount)

Doctor: There you go, good.

Terri: (then, either to show off(?) or wanting to perform well, she leans further forward toward the doctor, looks straight at him and opens her eyes as WIDE AS SHE CAN. >> Note the WRINKLES ACROSS HER FOREHEAD caused by her also RAISING HER EYEBROWS as high as possible )

Doctor: [now obviously impressed] GOOD!! GOOD JOB! GOOD JOB YOUNG LADY! Good Job.

More info and links. -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1258807/posts#10 -- THANKS, FL engineer. THANKS, freepers.


6 posted on 11/30/2004 8:24:59 PM PST by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo, her family, & her friends)
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To: Drango

I understand what you're saying, but you must also be aware that whether we like it or not, the state, church, and courts have already been injected into end of life issues.


7 posted on 11/30/2004 9:03:59 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: cyn; floriduh voter; phenn; FreepinforTerri; kimmie7; Pegita; windchime; tutstar; Deo volente; ...

Terri December Dailies thread ping!

If anyone would like to be on/off my Terri ping list, please let me know here or by Freepmail.


8 posted on 11/30/2004 9:07:52 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: floriduh voter; Ohioan from Florida; phenn; Republic; Robert Drobot; pc93; amdgmary; tutstar; ...
Here we go into December. Hope you all had a good Thanksgiving with lots to be thankful for.

Thanks for your faithfulness to Terri's fight. We hear from Terri's fight that our prayers and positive efforts on Terri's behalf are greatly appreciated by her family. Please just check in here periodically to see what's going on.

Ask to be added to Ohioan from Florida's ping list for the most important updates and breaking news.

Please 'sign' Terri's birthday card, which will be presented to her family at her birthday party.

Info on Terri's 41st birthday party on Dec 12.

9 posted on 11/30/2004 9:10:26 PM PST by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo, her family, & her friends)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Thanks, Ohioan! Officially launched now. May this be a productive month for Terri's family.


10 posted on 11/30/2004 9:12:59 PM PST by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo, her family, & her friends)
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To: Drango; cyn

Anyone who promotes the murder of an innocent woman is not promoting conservative values. Cyn is not speaking for everyone, just for conservatives. Anyone who doesn't agree that Terri has rights, is not conservative.


11 posted on 11/30/2004 9:14:08 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: cyn
Here we go into December. Hope you all had a good Thanksgiving with lots to be thankful for.

I had a blessed Thanksgiving. I ate a wonderful meal, with my loving husband. I was reminded that I survived the abuse my ex-husband dealt out years ago. He didn't kill me. I have hope that Terri will one day have a Thanksgiving like the one I just had.

12 posted on 11/30/2004 9:20:19 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: cyn
May this be a productive month for Terri's family.

Amen!

13 posted on 11/30/2004 9:30:49 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Drango

Hi, Drango -- that is a quote from floriduh voter's previous thread, so I'll refer your question to her. Thanks for checking this out.


14 posted on 11/30/2004 9:31:20 PM PST by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo, her family, & her friends)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Thanks for the ping!


15 posted on 11/30/2004 9:32:03 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: BykrBayb

I'm glad you had a good Thanksgiving; we did, too. But I'm so sorry to hear of your previous experience . . .


16 posted on 11/30/2004 9:34:26 PM PST by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo, her family, & her friends)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

"productive" is actually a bit of an understatement.

I'm thinking, "Home for the Holidays". Why not?!


17 posted on 11/30/2004 9:35:35 PM PST by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo, her family, & her friends)
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To: cyn

Thanks. I wish everyone faced with what seems like a hopeless situation at the time, could know that great happiness lies ahead. I also wish that the people who keep pushing for Terri's death could visualize themselves in her situation. Some of them are so sadistic they would still want her killed, but I think most of them would have a change of heart.


18 posted on 11/30/2004 9:41:54 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: cyn

I'm hoping and praying for a Christmas miracle!


19 posted on 11/30/2004 9:43:19 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: BykrBayb

I think you're right, but I also think there's a lot of people who think of Terri's life as hopeless. They do not understand the real meaning of hope, IMHO.


20 posted on 11/30/2004 9:45:23 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Glad to see you're peeking in!


21 posted on 11/30/2004 9:46:46 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Hope is something that cannot be explained. It must be learned. No one can tell you to click your heals three times, and all your problems will be solved.


22 posted on 11/30/2004 9:48:50 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: cyn; BykrBayb

I'm turning in for the night! God bless you all, and keep you safe! Terri and her family, too!


23 posted on 11/30/2004 9:48:52 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: BykrBayb

You understand hope much the same way I do. Many times Life is a great Teacher of things we haven't learned other ways.


24 posted on 11/30/2004 9:51:07 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: BykrBayb; Drango; cyn; Ohioan from Florida; Alamo-Girl
Anyone who promotes the murder of an innocent woman is not promoting conservative values.

Amen, Bykr Bayb!

Thank you for the Ping, Cyn and Ohio! Praising God for all of you who Love our Terri and Honor our Gracious Lord!

25 posted on 11/30/2004 11:03:30 PM PST by Kitty Mittens
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To: Kitty Mittens

Hi, KM -- good morning prayer bump.


26 posted on 12/01/2004 4:37:42 AM PST by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo, her family, & her friends)
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To: cyn

A question of human value: Are we all equal?

By Amy Doolittle
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

http://www.washingtontimes.com/culture/20041130-104924-5958r.htm

The question of whether humanembryos should be used for stem-cell research presents Americans with a new phase of an old struggle over equality, says Wesley J. Smith.
"The debate over embryonic stem-cell research is a debate over whether it is important that a life is human," says Mr. Smith, author of the recently released "Consumer's Guide to a Brave New World." "All of these issues that we are dealing with get into the very essential question that I think faces us in the 21st century: Does life have intrinsic value simply and merely because it is a human life?"

The answer to that question, says Mr. Smith, a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute, ultimately will decide whether we look at humans as resources or as beings who have value.
To reach a consensus about embryonic stem-cell research, the public must be able to understand the debate, says David Prentice, scientist and senior fellow for life sciences at the Family Research Council.
"Unfortunately, some people tend to make [the issue] too complex, so the public tends to just throw up their hands and think it's too difficult to understand the science," Mr. Prentice says. "We just need to make sure people understand these terms and what they really mean."
Mr. Smith explained that stem cells are simply cells that have not developed for any specific function, such as the creation of skin, muscle or bone tissue. These cells can be harvested either from embryos or from adults.
To obtain stem cells from an embryo, the embryo must be destroyed. Gathering such cells from adults is harmless, he said.
Americans hear little about adult stem-cell research, Mr. Smith says, despite the great progress it has made in helping patients with diseases such as Parkinson's. Instead, he says, Americans are told about the great potential for embryonic stem-cell research, although scientific hopes are nowhere near being realized.
"We hear an awful lot about embryonic stem cells. We are told by the scientific community that they offer the best hope," the Discovery Institute fellow says. "Well, that is not what the published science is showing. A lot of what you hear from the scientific community is speculation and hope. It isn't based on published science."
Instead, he said, published science shows that in lab tests embryonic stem cells result in two problems: tumors and tissue rejection.
Tumors appeared in mice that were injected with only 1 percent of the normal dose of embryonic stem cells. The problem, Mr. Prentice says, is that the embryonic stem cells don't stop growing.
Tissue rejection can result when the stem cells come from a foreign source. The problem can be prevented with adult stem cells, because they can be taken from the recipient's own body.
Beyond the rejection issue is an ethics question of human value, even where it is generally agreed that life begins at conception. Mr. Smith says the debate has moved from what point a human is created to the basis for human value.
One scientific attempt at resolving that debate, Mr. Smith says, is the "personhood theory," which states: "If one has sufficient cognitive capacity, even if one is not human, then you are a 'person.' If one has insufficient cognitive capacity to be deemed to have sufficient value, then you are a nonperson." Under this theory, he says, "nonpersons" would include newborns, the mentally unstable, and those afflicted with Alzheimer's and other debilitating diseases.
One example of personhood theory in action is the case of Terry Schiavo, the comatose Florida woman whose husband has fought in court to remove her feeding tube and let her die, Mr. Smith says.
"The people who decide [who is a nonperson] never choose themselves as having lesser value," Mr. Smith says, "but beyond that, when we decide that those who we denigrate as having lesser value, for whatever criteria we wish to establish ... it justifies killing, it justifies exploitation, and it justifies oppression."
In the long run, Mr. Smith and Mr. Prentice say, embryonic stem-cell research is not about religion, feminism or even the right of a human embryo to live. It is about the value of all humans, young and old, healthy and ill.
"We have to think about what that does to our perception, not only of unborn life but also of each other, of what it means to be human," Mr. Smith says. "If we can start creating human lives only to destroy them, then what have we done to ourselves, and what have we done to our own sense of the importance of the equality and sanctity of human life?"


27 posted on 12/01/2004 6:12:43 AM PST by Chocolate Rose
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[b]Terri is NOT comatose! NOT comatose!NOT comatose [/b]


28 posted on 12/01/2004 6:16:08 AM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: cyn; dandelion; Ohioan from Florida
Mornin. BREAKING NEWS RIGHT OFF THE BAT. The Florida Supreme Court lifted the "stay". They are still on board with the hemlockers, imo, it's part of the massive coverup to protect Florida's inept officials who are up to their eyeballs in deception and indifference. Maybe you can make this link look purtier but this first breaks in the Miami Herald, who work with the www.sptimes.com to propagandize for Terri to be executed.

This is the order dated Oct 27th from the Florida Supreme Court recalling their mandate. The motion states that they will re-issue the mandate on Nov 30 if no further stay of proceedings is granted.

http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/pub_info/summaries/briefs/04/04-925/Filed_10-27-2004_OrderRecallingMandate.pdf

FV SAYS: Terri is interactive and in good health, not PVS and it's still murder, no matter what month or year they try to commit THEIR CRIMES.

29 posted on 12/01/2004 6:21:56 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: Drango

Liberty IS A CONSERVATIVE CONCERN.


30 posted on 12/01/2004 6:23:02 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: cyn

High court lifts stay in Schiavo case; no action imminent
November 30, 2004

http://www.tcpalm.com/tcp/home/article/0,1651,TCP_996_3364437,00.html

TALLAHASSEE, Fla.- The Florida Supreme Court on Tuesday lifted a monthlong stay it had given Gov. Jeb Bush to appeal the case of Terri Schiavo to the U.S. Supreme Court, but the decision had no immediate practical impact.

Two days after the state's high court granted the governor's request in late October, a trial judge in Tampa ruled that Schiavo's feeding tube can't be removed until all appeals are exhausted on a request for a new trial. That blocks any immediate action.


The issue for that trial is whether Schiavo, who is severely brain-damaged, would want to live or die.

The issue before the state Supreme Court was a 2003 law that gave Bush the authority to order that Schiavo's feeding tube be reinserted just days after her husband, Michael Schiavo, won court approval to carry out what he believes are his wife's wishes to die.

The state's high court found that law unconstitutional in late September. The monthlong stay it ordered was to postpone issuing the official "mandate" in that decision. The court issued the mandate Tuesday.

Doctors have said Terri Schiavo collapsed from a chemical imbalance due to an eating disorder 14 years ago. She left no written will. Terry Schiavo's parents dispute she would want the feeding tube removed and have fought to keep their daughter alive.

George Felos, a Dunedin attorney representing Michael Schiavo, has appealed the judge's indefinite stay to the 2nd District Court of Appeal. He did not return a phone call Tuesday.

The governor's office also didn't return a phone call for reaction. Attorneys for the governor, however, have said they plan to appeal the state Supreme Court's September ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court.


31 posted on 12/01/2004 6:23:03 AM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: Drango; cyn; floriduh voter; Ohioan from Florida; BykrBayb

Drango trolls. Drango even managed to post a crass comment on a thread about a man who made sure he voted before a surgery after which he died.

Drango can't see that the court is already involved by their actions in trying to end a life.

If a person doesn't have enough quality of life to want to continue to live even if disabled they'll always be on the side of the Felos's of our world.



32 posted on 12/01/2004 6:30:13 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: cyn; FL_engineer; FR_addict; All

NUTRITION AND WATER ARE NOT MEDICAL TREATMENT. That is how they are attempting to KILL TERRI. When Terri collapsed, nutrition and water WERE NOT MEDICAL TREATMENT. Terri collapsed in the early nineties.

The law was written calling NUTRITION AND WATER MEDICAL TREATMENT in 1998 or 1999. They reached back to her include her in the new INTERPRETATION so they could take her life.

Governor Bush's email address is: jeb.bush@myflorida.com (please email the Governor).

The Florida Supreme Court is part of the massive coverup, even Jeb's appointees.

33 posted on 12/01/2004 6:30:30 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: Scoop 1

Check up higher. Look where the Florida Supreme Court latest Order first appears, the Miami Herald. Further, I have learned that the ACLU has ties to Miami University. The ACLU is helping the husband Michael Schiavo try to kill Terri.


34 posted on 12/01/2004 6:34:34 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: tutstar

Cynicism and bitterness never helped one human being on the face of the earth. Trolls can be very bitter and I feel their pain.


35 posted on 12/01/2004 6:36:43 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: Scoop 1; amdgmary; cyn
MIAMI HERALD link: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/state/10305440.htm?1c

Gotta go, friends. I'll be back later. FV

36 posted on 12/01/2004 6:41:01 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: Saundra Duffy; Lesforlife; Chocolate Rose
SUPREME IGNORANCE BY DAVID BASS, WORLD NET DAILY. September 25, 2004 (one I missed when it came out).

To view the entire article, visit

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=40619

37 posted on 12/01/2004 6:45:25 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: floriduh voter

http://www.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/C61544/

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- The Florida Supreme Court on Tuesday lifted a monthlong stay it had given Gov. Jeb Bush to appeal the case of Terri Schiavo to the U.S. Supreme Court, but the decision had no immediate practical impact.

Two days after the state's high court granted the governor's request in late October, a trial judge in Tampa ruled that Schiavo's feeding tube can't be removed until all appeals are exhausted on a request for a new trial. That blocks any immediate action.

The issue for that trial is whether Schiavo, who is severely brain-damaged, would want to live or die.

The issue before the state Supreme Court was a 2003 law that gave Bush the authority to order that Schiavo's feeding tube be reinserted just days after her husband, Michael Schiavo, won court approval to carry out what he believes are his wife's wishes to die.

The state's high court found that law unconstitutional in late September. The monthlong stay it ordered was to postpone issuing the official "mandate" in that decision. The court issued the mandate Tuesday.

Doctors have said Terri Schiavo collapsed from a chemical imbalance due to an eating disorder 14 years ago. She left no written will. Terry Schiavo's parents dispute she would want the feeding tube removed and have fought to keep their daughter alive.

George Felos, an attorney representing Michael Schiavo, has appealed the judge's indefinite stay to the 2nd District Court of Appeal. Felos said Tuesday the latest development removes one impediment from removing Terri Schiavo's tube -- but not the other. Felos said the legal battle would continue until courts stop issuing stays.

Jacob DiPietre, a spokesman for the governor, said Tuesday the governor planned to appeal the Florida court's ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court. (AP)


38 posted on 12/01/2004 6:55:12 AM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: Scoop 1

Sure, the ACLU are like red ants. You can't spray 'em, you can't drown 'em.


40 posted on 12/01/2004 7:48:50 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Ohio:

Please add me to your Terri ping list.

41 posted on 12/01/2004 8:29:35 AM PST by SeattleTiger
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To: SeattleTiger

More than happy to add you!


42 posted on 12/01/2004 8:42:05 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: cyn
TERRI'S LIFE STILL PROTECTED article by www.lifenews.com

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1292059/posts

I tried to put lights on the tree, big mistake. LOL Maybe I'll wait until gwb and gop man gets here.

44 posted on 12/01/2004 10:37:38 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: floriduh voter; cyn

Bush Attorneys Ask U.S. Supreme Court to Take Schiavo Case

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGB83Z4182E.html

By Vickie Chachere Associated Press Writer
Published: Dec 1, 2004

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Gov. Jeb Bush went to the U.S. Supreme Court on Wednesday in a bid to keep a severely brain-damaged woman alive over her husband's objections.
At issue is whether Bush overstepped his authority when he pushed through the Legislature a law in 2003 that allowed him to have Terri Schiavo's feeding tube reinserted. Six days earlier, her husband had the tube removed with a judge's approval.

Dubbed "Terri's Law," the measure was struck down by the Florida Supreme Court aerlier this year as a violation of the separation of powers before the legislative and judicial branches.

On Wednesday, the governor's attorneys filed an appeal with the nation's highest court in which they argued that the Florida Supreme Court ruling has "ominous" implications for "the most vulnerable of our citizens who cannot speak for themselves."

George Felos, the attorney for Schiavo's husband, Michael, called the appeal another delaying tactic by the governor. He said he doubts the U.S. Supreme Court will agree to hear the case.

"I think every independent legal scholar who has looked at this case and the decision of the Florida Supreme Court will agree there is no real arguable basis for federal jurisdiction," Felos said.

Schiavo is at the center of one of the nation's longest and most bitter ritght-to-die battles, a dispute that has pitted her husband against her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler.

Schiavo, who will turn 41 on Friday, suffered severe brain damage after collapsing in 1990 because of an eating disorder. Some doctors say she is in a persistent vegetative state with no hope for recovery, while doctors brought in by her parents say there is a chance she could regain some faculties.

She left no written instructions, but her husband has argued that she made it clear before her collapse that she would never want to be kept alive artificially. Her parents dispute that.

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On the Net:

Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation: http://www.terrisfight.org

AP-ES-12-01-04 1644EST


45 posted on 12/01/2004 3:51:59 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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To: Ohioan from Florida; All; cyn; russesjunjee; Lesforlife
This may be a duplicate but MORE NEWS TODAY...

http://baptistpress.com/bpnews.asp?ID=19015

46 posted on 12/01/2004 4:39:07 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: tutstar; pc93
FLORIDA ELECTION NEWS: Florida Election Supervisors had a meeting and they are toying with the idea of having EARLY VOTING and eliminating an "election day" per se.

If that does happen, Super of Elections Deborah Clarke won't be able to kick me off public property where her office is WHEN I CAMPAIGN AGAINST NOT A JUDGE W. DOUGLAS BAIRD. Clarke is against the freedom of assembly and the freedom of speech because she's a GREER/BAIRD beholdin' Republican.

We can MAKE LOTS OF HAY AT ELEVEN DAYS OF EARLY VOTING PROTESTS AGAINST TYRANNICAL JUDGES.

47 posted on 12/01/2004 4:43:51 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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CNN for CYN: http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/01/schiavo.supreme.court/index.html

MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- "Attorneys for Florida Gov. Jeb Bush are asking the U.S. Supreme Court to become involved in the ongoing case of a brain damaged woman, Terri Schiavo."

48 posted on 12/01/2004 4:45:01 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: floriduh voter

>>CNN for CYN: http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/01/schiavo.supreme.court/index.html <<

Attorneys argue 14th Amendment was violated
Wednesday, December 1, 2004 Posted: 5:16 PM EST (2216 GMT)


MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Attorneys for Florida Gov. Jeb Bush are asking the U.S. Supreme Court to become involved in the ongoing case of a brain damaged woman, Terri Schiavo.

A legal appeal by the state was filed with the court Wednesday, calling on the justices to accept the case for review.

Schiavo's husband, Michael, has been trying to have a feeding tube keeping his wife alive disconnected. Her parents contend their daughter would not have wanted the system disconnected and have been fighting to see that it stays in.

The two sides have been involved in more than a decade of litigation.

The Republican governor became involved in the legal battle last year, when the Florida Legislature passed a measure, referred to as "Terri's Law," that allowed Bush to replace the feeding tube after a court order had it removed.

In September the Florida Supreme Court found Terri's Law to be unconstitutional because it violated separation of powers. (Full story)

On Wednesday, Bush's attorneys argued the U.S. Supreme Court should hear the case because, they said, the Florida high court misapplied the separation-of-powers principle, violating the governor's and his ward's due process and equal protection rights under the 14th Amendment.

"It has taken our nation many years to make good on its commitment to equal justice for persons with profound cognitive disabilities," wrote attorneys for Bush.

"Unless the State of Florida retains the power to protect the rights of its most vulnerable citizens to due process and equal protection under the laws, the Fourteenth Amendment's guarantees will apply only to those who are capable of defending them on their own."

The Supreme Court may not decide whether to take the case for several weeks at least. If it accepts it, oral arguments would be scheduled, and a ruling would not be expected for a number of months.

The case is Bush v. Michael Schiavo (guardian for Theresa Schiavo).

CNN's Kim Segal and John Zarrella contributed to this report.


49 posted on 12/01/2004 4:52:26 PM PST by Chocolate Rose
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