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Ukraine undecided; George Soros "spending millions on the campaign against Mr. Yanukovych"
Washington Times ^ | November 8, 2004 | James Morrison

Posted on 12/02/2004 6:55:29 AM PST by MeekOneGOP

Embassy Row

By James Morrison
Published November 9, 2004

Ukraine undecided
    A chief adviser to the Ukrainian prime minister sees uncanny parallels between his boss's campaign for president and last week's U.S. presidential election.
    The Nov. 21 runoff between Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych and Viktor Yushchenko, a former prime minister, is too close to call. Each candidate received about 39 percent in the first round of voting on Oct. 31. Ukrainians appear divided between Mr. Yanukovych's rural supporters and Mr. Yushchenko's urban ones.
    Also, as in the American election, billionaire George Soros, who poured millions of dollars into efforts to defeat President Bush, is also spending millions on the campaign against Mr. Yanukovych, said Eduard Prutnik, the prime minister's adviser, on a visit to The Washington Times yesterday.
    "It's very much alike. We hope the outcome will also be the same," he said, predicting a victory for Mr. Yanukovych by about five percentage points.
    Iraq is also an issue, with Mr. Yanukovych pledging to keep Ukraine's 1,600 troops within the U.S.-led coalition and Mr. Yushchenko promising to withdraw them within weeks if he is elected.
    One of Mr. Prutnik's goals on his visit to Washington this week is to try to explain why Mr. Yanukovych would be a better U.S. ally than his opponent, who is supported privately by some State Department officials and publicly by many Ukrainians in the United States.
    "Unfortunately, people in this town want to speak in terms of black and white, making one 100 percent positive and the other 100 percent negative," Mr. Prutnik said.
    Critics suspect Mr. Yanukovych of harboring authoritarian tendencies like the current president, Leonid Kuchma, who is supporting the prime minister. They also claim Mr. Yanukovych is too close to Russian President Vladimir Putin and would bring .....

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KEYWORDS: georgesoros; prutnik; putin; russia; soros; ukraine; yanukovych; yushchenko
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I searched and didn't find this posted already.

Also, as in the American election, billionaire George Soros, who poured millions of dollars into efforts to defeat President Bush, is also spending millions on the campaign against Mr. Yanukovych, said Eduard Prutnik, the prime minister's adviser, on a visit to The Washington Times yesterday.

Can this be true? I would have thought for sure Soros would back Yanukovych, not campaign against him.


1 posted on 12/02/2004 6:55:29 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: PhilDragoo; jer33 3; LibertyRocks; Happy2BMe; devolve; Polak z Polski; Cutterjohnmhb; Lukasz; ...

2 posted on 12/02/2004 6:57:26 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Maybe Soros is trying to repair his reputation. Whatever the case, Soros is clearly not someone who can be accused of having a healthy intellect. Perhaps he's so stupid he's come full circle, and for once is backing the right guy.


3 posted on 12/02/2004 6:59:34 AM PST by Trippin
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To: MeekOneGOP

What's the expression? Even a monkey can be right some of the time?


4 posted on 12/02/2004 7:00:28 AM PST by madameguinot
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To: madameguinot; Trippin
haha! I think ya'll are on to something there. Thanks. :^)

5 posted on 12/02/2004 7:01:47 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Is this guy for anything? He seems to only spend his money in opposition to various causes. Thankfully, to little affect.
6 posted on 12/02/2004 7:05:37 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: MeekOneGOP
The Nov. 21 runoff between Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych and Viktor Yushchenko, a former prime minister, is too close to call. Each candidate received about 39 percent in the first round of voting on Oct. 31. Ukrainians appear divided between Mr. Yanukovych's rural supporters and Mr. Yushchenko's urban ones.

Well, Yanukovych won by around 800K votes in the end. And it was from a neat east west divide of the country, not urban-rural.

Take a line at the middle of the Moldavia-Ukraine border, and draw a lazy arc up and to the right to just west of Kharkov. Everywhere east and south of that line voted 60-90% for Yanukovich, with heavily urbanized and industrialized Donetsk going for him by over 90%, and Kharkov by over 70%. Everywhere west and north of that line voted 60-90% for Yushchenko, with L'viv going for him by over 90%, and K'yiv by over 70%. The only closely divided region was the rural area southeast of K'yiv.

Results here - http://ic-www.cvk.gov.ua/wp0011e

7 posted on 12/02/2004 7:08:55 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: madameguinot
I believe the expression is:

"Even a painted clock is right twice a day."

A good illustration is Jesse Jackson's opposition to gay marriage.

BTW, the article ignores, since it's impossible to explain away - ego-driven trouble-maker Soros' meddling not withstanding - that the reform movement enjoys the full support of both the Ukrainian Catholic Church and virtually the entire worldwide Ukrainian expatriate community.
8 posted on 12/02/2004 7:09:28 AM PST by GMMAC (lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
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To: GMMAC

I'm glad you said that -- that the Catholic Church, etc., support the reformers. Else I was thinking -- 'if George Soros supports this, perhaps I need to rethink it.'


9 posted on 12/02/2004 7:21:15 AM PST by bboop
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To: MeekOneGOP

We are not being told the real story here.

Besides both guys names beginning with Y, we have been told for a week now that $oreA$$ and GW are supporting the same guy.


10 posted on 12/02/2004 7:26:11 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans Articles = GIM=GAY INFECTED MEDIOTS!)
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To: Trippin

my guess is he has money in it. that he's bet alot on purchasing businesses in the area, and they would only payoff if yushchenko wins. or something like that.


11 posted on 12/02/2004 7:29:06 AM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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To: bboop
Site of petition campaign and for related on-line information from various global sources:
http://www.yushchenkothewillofthepeople.com/

Note: the above url links to a site sponsored by a Canadian federal Liberal MP of first generation Ukrainian descent but seems fairly non-partisan and, beyond the petition, has further links to worthwhile resources including articles documenting Catholic and expatriate support for the reform movement.
12 posted on 12/02/2004 7:39:36 AM PST by GMMAC (lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
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To: Trippin
Maybe Soros is trying to repair his reputation.

Nah, if Russia starts expanding its hegemony, it will be another reason to support a strong America; Soros would hate that.

13 posted on 12/02/2004 7:47:13 AM PST by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: GMMAC

Do you have a link where it says the Ukrainian Catholic Church backs Yuschenko? I'd be really shocked because he is the pro-abortion, and pro-sodomy candidate.

Yanukovich said he's going to commit to the War on Terror. He's keeping the troops in Iraq, unlike his opponent. He has the rural support, which in my opinion is better than the urban, look at who wins the US similar areas. There are a lot of God fearing good people even in the cities, but as a percentage of a local population, its more likely they're rural. I'm saying this as a city dweller, as a percentage of the population in an area, there is likely to be a higher percentage of the population of good people in rural areas. Numbers wise the city may have more, but they're outnumbered by those secularists who want death on demand and sodomy for all. Yanukovich is much more conservative socially. And did I mention, he's for keeping their troops there, so 1600 more of ours are able to go elsewhere?


14 posted on 12/02/2004 7:48:19 AM PST by GopherGOPer
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To: GopherGOPer
Do you have a link where it says the Ukrainian Catholic Church backs Yuschenko? I'd be really shocked because he is the pro-abortion, and pro-sodomy candidate.

where have you heard that? imho, the race there is alot more basic then any of these specific issues. the election is about freedom from russia and communism.

15 posted on 12/02/2004 7:51:31 AM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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To: GMMAC

I just clicked on your link to the Yuschenko+socialist Canadian MP site. Nowhere could I find a link saying the Catholic Church supports this candidate in any way shape or form. Please, if you find a link, I really want to see it.


16 posted on 12/02/2004 7:52:15 AM PST by GopherGOPer
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To: MeekOneGOP; Poohbah

You know, maybe Yanukovych isn't so bad after all. If George Soros hates his guts, he must be okay.


17 posted on 12/02/2004 7:52:58 AM PST by hchutch (A pro-artificial turf, pro-designated hitter baseball fan.)
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To: KOZ.

There was a lot of links on the other threads describing this election. In several of the threads linked material shows that Yuschenko does in deed support abortion. Many also show that he is pro sodomy. I'll dig some of the threads up.


18 posted on 12/02/2004 7:54:54 AM PST by GopherGOPer
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To: GopherGOPer

Irrelevant. Yanukovych's attempt to steal the election will not be permitted to stand.


19 posted on 12/02/2004 7:58:10 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: hchutch
Right.
All of the thugs, corrupt gangsters and pro-Russian boot-lickers in the Kuchma clique can't possible have any vested interest the outcome of the election.

If the Catholic Church and millions of Ukrainians the world over don't agree then they've obviously been bought off by Soros.

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20 posted on 12/02/2004 8:07:20 AM PST by GMMAC (lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
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To: GMMAC; KOZ.
Please post the link where the Catholic Church is behind the candidate from the Socialist Party. I didn't find what I was looking for yet, but I did find this, which is interesting. Pay special attention to the last sentence.

The pro-Yushchenko web site Ukrayinska pravda, however, openly mourned Kerry 's defeat, predicting that Bush's re-election would only make matters worse for Ukraine. "The Bush administration will continue making efforts to keep the mock anti-terror coalition, which Ukraine has joined, together. And it will turn a blind eye to human rights abuses and encroachments on freedom of speech in Ukraine," the website speculated.

This gloomy prediction is in line with the jealous mistrust of Bush's administration that is widespread among Ukraine's liberal and nationalist opposition. Many of those Ukrainians who oppose Kuchma's government believe that Bush tacitly agreed to overlook corruption and undemocratic practices in Kyiv in exchange for Kuchma' s support for the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq. "Ukraine's presence in Iraq will push it further away from Europe bringing it closer to America.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1288126/posts

Let me copy that important last sentence one more time, because it describes the key difference in this election.

Ukraine's presence in Iraq will push it further away from Europe bringing it closer to America.

21 posted on 12/02/2004 8:22:34 AM PST by GopherGOPer
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To: MeekOneGOP
It's obvious that Ukraine needs to implement campaign finance laws before outsiders like Soros steal the next election.

US campaign behind the turmoil in Kiev

22 posted on 12/02/2004 8:22:49 AM PST by logician2u
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To: GopherGOPer

its an interesting point. the key difference in this election is not whether the candidate supports iraq or not, the key difference is whether the candidate is for russian re-occupation, or for freedom. if we should support a free election or a coerced one.

if a country goes one way or another on an eletion is important but the election process should never be stolen or coerced. when yanukovych supports putin, and stealing the election he is unacceptable.


23 posted on 12/02/2004 8:29:26 AM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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To: MeekOneGOP

My guess is that Soros is backing the anti-establishment candidate, regardless of his politics, in an effort to further destabilize the country and make it easier for Soros to move in and take over the economy as he has done in other countries.


24 posted on 12/02/2004 8:36:02 AM PST by Eva
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To: MeekOneGOP
Also, as in the American election, billionaire George Soros, who poured millions of dollars into efforts to defeat President Bush, is also spending millions on the campaign against Mr. Yanukovych, said Eduard Prutnik, the prime minister's adviser, on a visit to The Washington Times yesterday.

Georgie boy might want to watch his steps. Just because we dont dispatch people to dispatch meddlesome a-Holes doesn't mean that someone else might not.

25 posted on 12/02/2004 8:39:02 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
"...it was from a neat east west divide of the country... Take a line at the middle of the Moldavia-Ukraine border, and draw a lazy arc up and to the right to just west of Kharkov. Everywhere east and south of that line voted 60-90% for Yanukovich... Everywhere west and north of that line voted 60-90% for Yushchenko, with L'viv going for him by over 90%, and K'yiv by over 70%."

Curious. The geographical spread you describe suggests that Yushchenko got most of his support from the western region of Ukraine where ethnic Russians are concentrated, while Yanukovich won in the eastern region where ethnic Ukrainians predominate.

In most former Soviet republics, ethnic Russians oppose independence and favor reunion with Russia. Yet, in Ukraine, ethnic Russians appear to have voted overwhelmingly for Yushchenko -- the candidate whom we are told represents an anti-Russian policy.

That is very odd.

26 posted on 12/02/2004 8:40:08 AM PST by Alexander Nevsky
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To: Alexander Nevsky

You have your ethnography reversed - the Russians are in the east, the Ukes in the west.


27 posted on 12/02/2004 8:47:07 AM PST by headsonpikes (Another five-fingered Canadian... ;^))
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To: Alexander Nevsky
Curious. The geographical spread you describe suggests that Yushchenko got most of his support from the western region of Ukraine where ethnic Russians are concentrated, while Yanukovich won in the eastern region where ethnic Ukrainians predominate.

the concentrations you mention are reversed. russian concentration is in the east, ukrainian nationalism is predominate in the west.

28 posted on 12/02/2004 8:47:17 AM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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To: GMMAC

so who are good Americans supposed to be rooting for?......Soros is evil and anything he supports is suspect, IMO..


29 posted on 12/02/2004 8:50:31 AM PST by cherry
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To: KOZ.
"...the concentrations you mention are reversed. russian concentration is in the east, ukrainian nationalism is predominate in the west."

Oh. Silly me. :-)

30 posted on 12/02/2004 8:52:17 AM PST by Alexander Nevsky
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To: KOZ.

I'll agree with you that stealing an election is unacceptable. It needs to be fair and open.

But I do disagree on the concepts of the election, Soros, the leftists, and the Socialist Party candidate Yushchenko seem to represent Europe, and closer EU ties.

The other candidate represents closer American ties. Yes it is also much closer Russian ties, but I see France and their EU a much bigger enemy than Russia.


31 posted on 12/02/2004 8:54:09 AM PST by GopherGOPer
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To: GopherGOPer
The other candidate represents closer American ties. Yes it is also much closer Russian ties, but I see France and their EU a much bigger enemy than Russia.

how? russia supported iraq, iran, north korea, china. they are aligning with our worst enemies to recreate the soviet union. the only alliance we have with russia is that we are fighting muslims. russia has never been kind to ukraine. ever. and this election is proof that they dont intend to be kind to ukraine.

32 posted on 12/02/2004 9:04:06 AM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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To: MeekOneGOP; gophergop
An old, old article on George Soros's involvement in the Ukraine:



Connie Bruck   The New Yorker   23-Jan-1995   George Soros buys Ukraine


(SNIP)

Ukraine's own Mother Theresa.  Of course it is always a bit of mystery to see someone like George Soros behaving philanthropically, giving away vast sums of money merely to do good to others.  To Ukraine, George Soros appears in the guise of a selfless Mother Theresa — and yet selflessness is such a rare trait that when it makes its appearance, some observers can only stand and stare at it in wonder, and sometimes even in disbelief.

Part time philanthropist, part time plunderer?  How to avoid noticing that this particular philanthropist's career consists in getting rich by taking money away from others in a vast, international poker game, in which no goods or services trade hands, and in which the only goal is to pauperize all opponents by outwitting them?  How does a poker player who thrives under the guidance of this motivation find room in his personality for selfless philanthropy?  How can such a philanthropist manage to avoid viewing the very people that he is giving money to as sheep that he will be able to shear tomorrow just like the sheep that he sheared yesterday?  Had it been the case that subsequent to George Soros's intervention in Ukraine, the nation had prospered, then we would be obligated to consider thanking him.  But as, instead, Ukraine has instead been plundered, what thanks are owed George Soros?

(SNIP)

Any harm in George Soros?  Is there evidence that George Soros works to injure Ukraine?  The Ukrainian Archive lacks the resources to systematically gather such evidence.  This is a job for the Ukrainian press, which, however, Leonid Kuchma has made giant strides toward intimidating and suppressing what he has been unable to buy up.  Not likely, therefore, that the Ukrainian press will ever discover that Leonid Kuchma first strode upon the world stage as a George Soros flunkey.  Curious that George "Mother Theresa" Soros is unable to prevail upon his protégé, Leonid Kuchma, to allow a free press — one might have imagined that in his selfless efforts to modernize Ukraine, a free press would have been among Soros's most urgent goals.  But instead, despite all of George Soros's efforts, somehow Ukraine has ended up with the press of a police state, in which journalists are sued, harassed, beaten, and assassinated.  Despite such daunting obstacles to arriving at a clear view of what is happening, suggestive clues that George Soros works to injure Ukraine do emerge.

Don't invest in terminal cases.  For example, George Soros does invest in Russia, but does not invest in Ukraine — a discrepancy whose explanation might be that Soros is aware that the plan for Ukraine, but not for Russia, is economic collapse.  If anyone can think of any other explanation for the combination of George Soros holding particular sway over Ukraine, and yet for George Soros designating Ukraine as the only country that is nurtured by his philanthropy and yet that he refuses to invest in, I would like to hear what that alternative explanation is.  As investment may be considered to be one of the most efficient forms of philanthropy, we are faced here with a major incongruity.

Stealing Ukrainian brains for Russia?  For another example, Net-Moscow Times-14Oct97 reports that George Soros donated $100 million to promote Internet access in Russian universities, but mentions no corresponding figure for Ukraine.  If the figure for Ukraine is zero, or disproportionately less than for Russia, then the effect will be to draw Ukrainian brains to Russia, than which there could be no more devastating injury to Ukraine.

Saving a country by giving travel grants to its scientists.  On top of that, evidence bearing on the possibility of a long-standing Soros policy to drain Ukraine of its brains may be found in the UKAR discussion — What's George Soros up to? — that travel grants may have as their chief goal the emigration or Ukrainian brains out of Ukraine.

He who pays the piper calls the tune.  Another thought that the following quotations are capable of eliciting in some restless minds.  That one way of guessing the likelihood that an individual will work toward the success of the Ukrainian State is to count the number of internal y's in his surname, or to see if it has some such ending as iuk or iak or yshyn or enko.  Quite a different way, which does not always give the same answer as the first way, is to notice whose payroll he is on.

33 posted on 12/02/2004 9:11:57 AM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: GopherGOPer; gophergop

Sorry gophergop, I meant to ping GopherGOPer.


34 posted on 12/02/2004 9:13:21 AM PST by struwwelpeter
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To: MeekOneGOP

Do you recall that a representative from Open Society Ukraine was recently imprisoned? I thought I saw a post within the last month. Also does PORA and International Renaissance Foundation tie into Soros Foundation? Would someone correct me if I'm wrong, PORA is the student youth movement clothed in orange.


35 posted on 12/02/2004 9:44:04 AM PST by jer33 3
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To: GopherGOPer; KOZ.
Do you notice how quiet France has been during all of this?

France and Russia are on the same side in this instance. Neither one of them wants to see a united, democratic Ukraine enter the EU.

Why? Russia, for the obvious reasons of wanting to maintain a buffer between it and the West while also retaining her Black Sea ports and strategic corridors into Central Asia. France, because she does not want to see the balance of European power shift even further to the East (i.e., "New Europe.")

36 posted on 12/02/2004 9:50:58 AM PST by cicero's_son
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To: Alexander Nevsky
Curious. The geographical spread you describe suggests that Yushchenko got most of his support from the western region of Ukraine where ethnic Russians are concentrated, while Yanukovich won in the eastern region where ethnic Ukrainians predominate.

No, no! You've got it backwards. The Russians are in the east where Yanukovich won, and the Ukies in the west.

37 posted on 12/02/2004 10:01:17 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: KOZ.

It may be much more parochial than abortion. If both candidates support abortion, other factors may come into play quite strongly:

The Catholic Church was strongly suppressed by the Russians, who killed tens of millions of Catholic Ukranians, siezed all their properties, and forced any parcticing Christian to adopt Russian Orthodoxy. To this day, the Russians have refused to return the churches to the Catholics. Since Yuschenko represents the Catholic-leaning West and independence from Russia, it makes sense Catholics would support him.

The position of Rome is that voters may support a pro-abortion candidate if there are "proportional issues." Several American bishops were quick to point out that in our Democracy, there were no issues proportional to abortion. In a country where neither candidate is pro-life, but where totalitarianism has resulted in a largely atheistic society which has slaughtered or starved tens of millions, there may well be proportional issues.


38 posted on 12/02/2004 10:07:43 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

great analysis. thanks.


39 posted on 12/02/2004 10:21:49 AM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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To: GopherGOPer; KOZ.
"Nowhere could I find a link saying the Catholic Church supports this candidate"

I apologize, there were links to articles demonstrating Catholic support for the reformers on the "Brama" linked site 48-72 hrs ago. As you probably also saw, as events move forward, new posts bury or push off old ones. I've been out but, upon return, found this very recent additional indication of Catholic support:

Ukrainian cardinal, bishop join others in urging action by Kuchma
Excerpts:
"The spread of popular protests testifies that the rights of people were truly brutally violated. It would be impossible for the people of Ukraine to take such action only for the personal interests of one presidential candidate, and the entire world has understood this," said the Nov. 30 letter, issued after a week in which tens of thousands of Ukrainians demonstrated daily in Kiev."

Among the letter's signers were Cardinal Lubomyr Husar of Lviv, head of the Ukrainian Catholic Church, an Eastern rite, and Bishop Markijan Trofimiak of Lutsk, vicar general of Ukraine's Latin-rite bishops' conference.

"In a separate statement Nov. 29, Cardinal Husar said he believed the mass protests showed Ukrainians had "ripened and grown to create a legal state, where all are equal before the law and where every person has the right to express their thoughts without fear."
However, he added that the crisis was being deepened by government leaders, who were relying on "the armed forces of the state rather than the people's support," and using "habits learned in Soviet times."
"In these conditions, the danger of the government using violence against peaceful citizens, and even spilling blood, grows," the cardinal said. "Before our very eyes, a united Ukrainian nation is being affirmed, going through a beautiful and inspired process of transfiguration in its true nature. It would be a great loss if we did not use this chance for the development of our people and drowned it instead in narrow group interests and a stubborn unyielding position."

Source: http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0406584.htm
40 posted on 12/02/2004 10:57:56 AM PST by GMMAC (lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Yeah. But this is the only article I've seen that actually stated
$orryA$$ had any stakes in either candidate. Everything I saw
was "undocumented" (no link) until this article.

And I'm skeptical how much truth there is in this, too.


41 posted on 12/02/2004 11:38:20 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: MeekOneGOP
George Soros does not pay for the campaign against Yanukovych - 13-11-2004 19:36 Maidan-INFORM

On November 9, 2004, Eduard Prutnyk, an advisor to the Prime Minister of Ukraine V.F.Yanukovych, at a meeting with the correspondents of the “Washington Times”, declared that George Soros is allegedly financing the campaign that aims at defeating Viktor Yanukovych in the presidential race in Ukraine. This statement has nothing to do with the truth. This year the International Renaissance Foundation (IRF) concentrated a certain part of its efforts on promoting fair and free elections in Ukraine, without giving preferences to any of the candidates, since first of all the Foundation supports those NGOs and their coalitions that aim at spreading information and enhancing voters’ activity, monitoring the infringement of voters’ rights and violations of electoral legislation, promoting adequate mass media coverage of elections campaign, conducting exit polls and TV debates of the presidential candidates. Complete information on IRF projects regarding elections has been sent directly to campaign headquarters of the candidates on October 12, 2004. Besides, all this information is freely available on the IRF web site (http://www.irf.kiev.ua). The fact that IRF’s support for fair and free elections is being associated with the support of the opposition reveals the ignorance or the conscious rejection of democratic standards by the representative of the current administration.

Hryhorij Nemyrya, Chairman of the IRF board of administration
Yevhen Bystrytskyj, IRF Executive Director

Maidan-Inform’s comment:
Some people suffer from megalomania – they are eager to feel themselves Soros’s victims. We recommend them to assess more adequately their own weight in the world.


Interfax News Agency, 01.04.04 - U.S. financier George Soros told reporters in Kyiv on Wednesday that he and Ukrainian parliamentarian Viktor Pinchuk are planning to create a joint fund to provide legal assistance to citizens in Ukraine. Speaking about the agreement with Pinchuk, Soros said this is the first major contribution of a local philanthropist toward organizing a legal assistance fund. - irf.kiev.ua


Pinchuk (Kuchma's son in law), Soros and
Olena Franchuk (Kuchma's daughter)

Shaken oligarchs keep their money on Yanukovich - Mr Yushchenko has pledged to review the controversial privatisation of Kryvorizhstal, Ukraine's biggest steel mill, which was sold to Mr Pinchuk and Mr Akhmetov earlier this year for $800m (€604m, £424m), far less than foreign bidders were prepared to offer.

42 posted on 12/02/2004 12:59:57 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I would have difficulty believing a statement from IRF which is Soros funded Open Society Ukraine.


43 posted on 12/02/2004 1:42:20 PM PST by jer33 3
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To: jer33 3

I have difficulty believing Edward Prutnik, a member of Yanukovych's campaign.


44 posted on 12/02/2004 1:45:10 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: jer33 3
Prutnik helped Yanukovych steal the election
45 posted on 12/02/2004 1:47:36 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: MeekOneGOP

Ping for later


46 posted on 12/02/2004 1:50:15 PM PST by jan in Colorado
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To: madameguinot

Hope he spends all his money thus, and has none for our next election cycle.


47 posted on 12/02/2004 1:50:32 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Tailgunner Joe
..... at a meeting with the correspondents of the “Washington Times”, declared that George Soros is allegedly financing the campaign that aims at defeating Viktor Yanukovych in the presidential race in Ukraine. This statement has nothing to do with the truth .....

To me, THAT makes more sense. I could easily believe that $orryA$$ would throw money behind Yanukovych than Yushchenko .....


48 posted on 12/02/2004 1:52:01 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker

Sure. All you have to do is discount the massive, documented vote fraud in the Yanukovych provinces. It ain't as clear cut for partition as you would like to believe.


49 posted on 12/02/2004 1:52:48 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I'm not taking either for fact at the moment. I'm just researching like everyone else.


50 posted on 12/02/2004 1:55:04 PM PST by jer33 3
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