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Obvious but False: Common Views of Love and Courtship
BreakPoint with Chuck Colson ^ | December 1, 2004 | Chuck Colson

Posted on 12/02/2004 12:30:35 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

Ask the typical college student, What’s love? That’s a no-brainer—love is a romantic feeling, right? And what’s the purpose of sex? Pleasure, of course. What else could it be?

In his new book Ask Me Anything: Provocative Answers for College Students, University of Texas professor J. Budziszewski tells students that both of these “obvious” answers are dead wrong. Take the idea that love is a feeling. If that were really true, then how could people getting married promise to love each other until they are parted by death? Feelings come and go; you can’t promise a feeling. What you can promise is a commitment of the will to the good of the other person. And that’s what love is.

Or take that other “obvious” but wrong answer that the purpose of sex is pleasure. “False,” says Budziszewski. Of course, sex is pleasurable, but that doesn’t make pleasure its purpose. The exercise of every natural power is pleasurable. Eating is pleasurable; taking a deep breath is pleasurable; flexing a muscle is pleasurable. Is the purpose of all those things also pleasure? Think what that would imply. If the purpose of eating was pleasure, then if it gave you more pleasure to eat, purge, and eat some more, you ought to do it. The reason you shouldn’t is that the purpose of eating isn’t pleasure, but nutrition. In the same way, says Budziszewski, the purpose of our sexual powers isn’t pleasure, but procreation—in other words, making families.

In a snappy dialogue format, Budziszewski takes up these and lots of similar questions. The first part of the book is what he calls “girl and guy stuff.” What are “the moves” of courtship, and why are they so hard to figure out? Is “missionary dating” a good idea or a bad one? Does it matter whom you live with? Why do so many people seem to be afraid of growing up? And here’s an explosive one: I got my girlfriend pregnant—what now?

My favorite question is why “sowing your wild oats” never works out the way it’s supposed to. Sexuality, he says, is like duct tape. The first time you use it, it sticks you to whomever it touches. But just like that duct tape, if you rip it off and then touch it to someone else, it isn’t as sticky as it was before. So what happens when you pull it loose from one partner after another? Budziszewski explains: You just don’t stick anymore, your sexual partners seem like strangers, and you stop feeling anything.

I like that answer. Not only is it thoroughly biblical, but it honors the fact of our natural design—the way we are actually made to fit the way the world really is.

If you want to learn more about how to explain the creational plan for love and courtship to the young people in your life, check out this wonderful new book Ask Me Anything: Provocative Answers for College Students. During the next few days, Mark Earley and I will be talking more about it.

Don’t forget: If we go against the way God designed us to live, it is like cutting across the grain of the universe, and we’re asking for trouble. All we have to do to live right is to get with the plan—His plan, that is.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: breakpoint; campus

1 posted on 12/02/2004 12:30:36 PM PST by Mr. Silverback
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To: agenda_express; applemac_g4; BA63; banjo joe; Believer 1; billbears; Blood of Tyrants; Boxsford; ...

BreakPoint/Chuck Colson Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my BreakPoint Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

2 posted on 12/02/2004 12:31:15 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (A Freelance Business Writer looking for business.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; Balto_Boy; ...

ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

3 posted on 12/02/2004 12:31:41 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (A Freelance Business Writer looking for business.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Sex is an impediment to reproduction.


4 posted on 12/02/2004 12:32:46 PM PST by Rudder
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To: Mr. Silverback

I just love it when you can work sex and duct tape into the same discussion.


5 posted on 12/02/2004 12:34:40 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Never play leapfrog with a unicorn!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Don’t forget: If we go against the way God designed us to live, it is like cutting across the grain of the universe, and we’re asking for trouble.

You reap what you sow.........too bad liberals never seem to grasp that Truth

6 posted on 12/02/2004 12:39:24 PM PST by apackof2 (Damn the torpedos! Full speed ahead!)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Love is, apparently, like duct tape.


7 posted on 12/02/2004 12:41:36 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2004, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: TaxRelief

ping


8 posted on 12/02/2004 12:42:18 PM PST by Tax-chick (Benedicere cor! Quomodo cogis comas tuas sic videri?)
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To: Mr. Silverback
If the purpose of eating was pleasure, then if it gave you more pleasure to eat, purge, and eat some more, you ought to do it.

I wonder if he realizes that he just described the contraceptive approach to sex?

9 posted on 12/02/2004 12:43:25 PM PST by Tax-chick (Benedicere cor! Quomodo cogis comas tuas sic videri?)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Budjizewski (sp) writes great stuff. You can read his articles on evolution, homosexuality, abortion, premarital sex, etc. on the "boundless.org" site (affiliated with Focus on the Family).

He deals with these topics using the solid logic of a conservative ethics and philosphy professor (which he is) having discussions with fictional students. He's always very easy to read and thought provoking.

He's got a new one up about the superficial "Jesus was a liberal" claim.


10 posted on 12/02/2004 12:43:42 PM PST by mikeus_maximus
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To: Cyber Liberty
Makes me want to go home and play McGuyver. Someone better warn my husband.
11 posted on 12/02/2004 12:45:10 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Never play leapfrog with a unicorn!)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Giggle. I know what you mean.


12 posted on 12/02/2004 12:45:47 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Cyber Liberty
Love is, apparently, like duct tape.

And since duct tape is also referred to as "mexican epoxy", love must be like epoxy...

13 posted on 12/02/2004 12:46:39 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
I just love it when you can work sex and duct tape into the same discussion

Here here, if only they could have also mentioned WD-40.
14 posted on 12/02/2004 12:53:44 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS
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To: HEY4QDEMS

WD-40 now its getting really kinky.


15 posted on 12/02/2004 1:05:22 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Never play leapfrog with a unicorn!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
If the purpose of eating was pleasure, then if it gave you more pleasure to eat, purge, and eat some more, you ought to do it. The reason you shouldn’t is that the purpose of eating isn’t pleasure, but nutrition.

That's just sick. The many reasons you shouldn't make yourself throw up after eating don't include, "The purpose of eating isn’t pleasure, but nutrition."

If the purpose of eating is nutrition, what's the purpose of dessert?

16 posted on 12/02/2004 1:17:59 PM PST by Dick Holmes
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; Lorianne
I want to meet both of you.

/8^)

17 posted on 12/02/2004 1:19:44 PM PST by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: Dick Holmes
If the purpose of eating is nutrition, what's the purpose of dessert?

With or without duct tape? ;)

18 posted on 12/02/2004 1:19:57 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Dick Holmes
If the purpose of eating is nutrition, what's the purpose of dessert?

Touche!

Is the purpose of drinking wine pleasure? If it is, does that mean that we should drink, purge, and drink some more? The author's analogies are not helpful or pleasurable.
19 posted on 12/02/2004 1:25:13 PM PST by BikerNYC
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To: knarf

You forgot the horns for /8^)!!


20 posted on 12/02/2004 1:26:52 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Never play leapfrog with a unicorn!)
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To: Dick Holmes
If the purpose of eating is nutrition, what's the purpose of dessert?

What happens to people who only eat desserts?

21 posted on 12/02/2004 1:29:33 PM PST by Campion
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
heh heh heh ... you started it.

=/8^)

22 posted on 12/02/2004 1:34:17 PM PST by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: Campion

***What happens to people who only eat desserts?***

They don't get to star in a Subway commercial?

P.S. And you missed a GREAT opportunity to please the FR word-lovers in the structuring of your question.

If I may help?

What happens to people who eat just desserts? (chortle)


23 posted on 12/02/2004 1:34:47 PM PST by justshe (Become a monthly donor; eliminate Freepathons!)
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To: All; biblewonk
the purpose of our sexual powers isn’t pleasure, but procreation—in other words, making families.

So, if we're not makin' babies, we gotta quit makin' whoopee, eh?

Sexuality, he says, is like duct tape.

Handyman's-secret-weapon ping.

24 posted on 12/02/2004 1:36:22 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: knarf

THE HORNS MAKE THE MAN!!


25 posted on 12/02/2004 1:37:19 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Never play leapfrog with a unicorn!)
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To: Campion
(If the purpose of eating is nutrition, what's the purpose of dessert?) What happens to people who only eat desserts?

Ah, but life isn't an either-or proposition. If you believe the purpose of eating is only nutrition and not pleasure, what are you doing having dessert? For that matter, you could save a lot of time and money just eating dog food and a vitamin pill every day, so here's your Iams, dig in!

26 posted on 12/02/2004 1:40:46 PM PST by Dick Holmes
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To: Dick Holmes
If you believe the purpose of eating is only nutrition and not pleasure

The purpose of something is not the same as the result of something. The purpose of something, for a Christian, is what God designed it to do. It isn't the answer to "what does it do" but the answer to "why does it exist at all".

The purpose of eating, or at least it's primary purpose, is nutrition. That doesn't mean that it doesn't do other good stuff, as well, but doing that good stuff isn't what it is primarily intended by God to do. It's primarily intended to keep you alive. The other stuff is, as they say in Louisiana, lagniappe. (I believe I spelled that right.)

27 posted on 12/02/2004 1:47:11 PM PST by Campion
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To: Dick Holmes
If the purpose of eating is nutrition, what's the purpose of dessert?

The purpose of dessert is to make you feel guilty, of course!

28 posted on 12/02/2004 2:09:30 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Sexuality, he says, is like duct tape.

Paging Bill Clinton!

29 posted on 12/02/2004 2:12:03 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
In the same way, says Budziszewski, the purpose of our sexual powers isn’t pleasure, but procreation—in other words, making families.

I've had a vasectomy, so I think it's pretty safe to say that when I have sex, the purpose is pleasure (mine, and hopefully someone else's).

30 posted on 12/02/2004 2:16:30 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Hahahahaha!


31 posted on 12/02/2004 2:24:34 PM PST by T'wit (Everything I need to know in life I learned from a carpenter.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

bump


32 posted on 12/02/2004 2:27:03 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Sexuality, he says, is like duct tape.

This development could take the Possum Lodge in an entirely new direction.


33 posted on 12/02/2004 2:36:43 PM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: Cyber Liberty

exactly, enough duct tape can fix pert near anything!


34 posted on 12/02/2004 2:48:49 PM PST by Docbarleypop (Navy Doc)
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To: Campion

Yes, you spelled lagniappe correctly. That made me very happy.

Oh, it was also a very cogent post. You're so good at that!


35 posted on 12/02/2004 3:41:11 PM PST by Tax-chick (Benedicere cor! Quomodo cogis comas tuas sic videri?)
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To: Freebird Forever

I love Red Green. The Possum Lodge is the best.


36 posted on 12/02/2004 4:13:18 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Never play leapfrog with a unicorn!)
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To: Rudder
Sex is an impediment to reproduction.

News to my wife and me (three kids so far.) Care to elaborate?

37 posted on 12/02/2004 5:58:44 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (A Freelance Business Writer looking for business.)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
I just love it when you can work sex and duct tape into the same discussion.

Yep. That takes a true master of the rhetorical form. Either that, or someone who's using duct tape for a really sick and/or illegal purpose.

38 posted on 12/02/2004 6:00:45 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (A Freelance Business Writer looking for business.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Colson is out to lunch here (bad metaphor.) Sex in a marriage isn't only for babies; if it were, why would spouses continue to make love during pregnancy, or after the menopause, or after a spouse had surgery or some other medical treatment that made one or the other infertile?

And what's Colson's problem with eating? Eating of course is pleasurable - otherwise we'd just be satisfied with tasteless "nutrition blocks." What a puritanical attitude.

39 posted on 12/02/2004 8:18:48 PM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Asexual reproduction is quite successful and represents the most common way for organisms to reproduce. Sexual reproduction adds another element to the process and, as such, serves as a form of selective pressure...only those who can attract another and perform all the necessary components of sex get to contribute to the gene pool.


40 posted on 12/03/2004 3:22:47 AM PST by Rudder
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To: Mr. Silverback

One Question, doesn't the Bible talk about sex being for the pleasure of a man and wife. It was meant to be a gift from God for those who obeyed his commands. I know that my friends who sleep around are never fully satisfied by the sex, however, my married friends all seem to be happy and more fulfilled.


41 posted on 12/03/2004 8:40:39 PM PST by weshess (I will stop hunting when the animals agree to quit jumping in front of my gun to commit suicide)
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