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Whiskey Reinvented
The Los Angeles Times ^ | December 2, 2004 | Charles Perry

Posted on 12/02/2004 3:24:13 PM PST by quidnunc

Up and down the West Coast, a craft distilling movement is gathering steam – and making some awfully good spirits.

Who makes whiskey? A laconic Scot tending a still in the Highlands? A good old boy nursing his sour mash in Kentucky? A moonshiner brewing sneaky Pete up yonder in the holler?

They're not the only kinds of whiskey makers anymore. Lately there's been an explosion of handmade whiskey here on the West Coast. Forget Scotland and Kentucky — we have a crop of eager Western dudes who want to create a distinct Western style of whiskey.

They're taking this nouvelle whiskey idea in wildly differing directions — rough and powerful, sweet and fruity, gnarled and smoky, mellow and harmonious. The result is whiskeys with very distinct personalities, whiskeys you don't find anywhere else.

In the last few years six distilleries have started making and selling whiskey in California and Oregon, and two more will join them in the next year or so. An equal number of outfits up and down the coast are eyeing the idea. Already we have three times as many (legal) pot-still distilleries as the rest of the country combined.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: alcohol; squidnutsqueezins; whiskey
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1 posted on 12/02/2004 3:24:13 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
sweet and fruity

Only in California would someone make a 'sweet and fruity' whiskey.

Disgusting.

2 posted on 12/02/2004 3:28:04 PM PST by cowboyway (My Hero's have always been cowboys.)
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To: quidnunc
Does that mean I can reassemble my still? I have got a great mash recipe that turns out a daylosing product.
3 posted on 12/02/2004 3:30:08 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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To: crazyhorse691

No law says you can't make whiskey. The problems is when you want to sell it. I forget the rules for hard liquor, but I know you can make up to 200 gallons of beer or wine without any government interference as long as you don't sell it.


4 posted on 12/02/2004 3:32:07 PM PST by RonF
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To: quidnunc

The way they act out there on the left coast, I would have guessed there was a whiskey distillery in every town!


5 posted on 12/02/2004 3:33:25 PM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (Get'in a PhD in my jammies)
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To: sam_whiskey

Unnngh. :-)


6 posted on 12/02/2004 3:33:56 PM PST by TheBigB (I sure could go for a charbroiled hamburger sammich and some french fried potatoes!)
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To: quidnunc

Guess California doesn't have time or patience for aging.


7 posted on 12/02/2004 3:33:57 PM PST by fat city (Julius Rosenberg's soviet code name was "Liberal")
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To: quidnunc

I volunteer to be the taste tester.


8 posted on 12/02/2004 3:34:42 PM PST by Wneighbor
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To: quidnunc
Great first californians thought they could make wine! Now wiskey.... Pfft! Give me a good 12 year old Scotch Whiskey! (Preferablly Bushmills or Jamison)
9 posted on 12/02/2004 3:34:53 PM PST by Americanwolf (www.geocities.com/arizonapatriots/ArizonaPatriots.html.. Serving those who serve us.)
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To: quidnunc
The result is whiskeys with very distinct personalities, whiskeys you don't find anywhere else.

Sure. Let them come sip from one of these jugs in Alabama and see what kind of "personality" real whiskey has. If 1/2 a cup doesn't send you to the hospital, it's not good hooch.
10 posted on 12/02/2004 3:35:44 PM PST by Jaysun (If you are what you eat then I'm cheap, fast, and bad for your health.)
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To: Americanwolf

Ummm, aren't those Irish?


11 posted on 12/02/2004 3:36:02 PM PST by Gulf War One
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To: quidnunc

Ezra Brooks!


12 posted on 12/02/2004 3:37:22 PM PST by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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To: Americanwolf
Americanwolf wrote: Give me a good 12 year old Scotch Whiskey (Preferablly Bushmills or Jamison)

Those are both Irish whiskeys.

13 posted on 12/02/2004 3:38:03 PM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc
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Notice the gasoline can in the foreground. White lightning baby!


14 posted on 12/02/2004 3:40:14 PM PST by Jaysun (If you are what you eat then I'm cheap, fast, and bad for your health.)
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To: quidnunc

yeah... I realized my fault after typing it... I should really be ashamed to, because in my tour of Dublin in 2000 I spent several hours at the distillery. (of course after the visit things were very fuzzy after the tasting.)


15 posted on 12/02/2004 3:40:47 PM PST by Americanwolf (www.geocities.com/arizonapatriots/ArizonaPatriots.html.. Serving those who serve us.)
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To: RonF
Actually you can not make your own hard liquor. The crime happens as soon as you concentrate the alcohol. There are many ways to concentrate the alcohol.
Take the German Eisbier. They bring the beer down to freezing and run off the beer that does not freeze this will help to bump up the ABV.

Anyway I am very happy to see these types of businesses start up cause they help to bring local tastes to the market that are not there in the big named products. The craft beers are great and I am sure the craft distilleries will bring a great taste to the markets.

CHEERS
16 posted on 12/02/2004 3:41:03 PM PST by pennyfarmer (A whole lotta people need some killin.)
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To: quidnunc

I'll buy a bottle when they can make it taste better than Pappy Van Winkle.

Good Luck!


17 posted on 12/02/2004 3:41:39 PM PST by Vision ("When you trust in yourself, you're trusting in the same wisdom that created you")
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To: Americanwolf; quidnunc

Gotta try the Millenium Reserve if you get a chance. Un-freakin'-believable!
Check it at http://www.classicwhiskey.com/whiskey/sbsmbushmill.htm


18 posted on 12/02/2004 3:42:52 PM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel ("If you accumulate enough layers of superficiality, that's pretty much the same as having depth")
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To: RonF

You can neither distill nor sell booze without the proper licensing from the Alcohol, Tobacco, Tax and Trade Bureau (TTB)...

S3: I've seen ads for home distilling equipment in catalogs ("turn wine into brandy," "make your own essential oils"). Is it legal to buy and use a still like that?

Under Federal rules administered by TTB, it depends on how you use the still. You may not produce alcohol with these stills unless you qualify as a distilled spirits plant...

If you are 18 years old (or other age required for the purchase of beer in the locality), you can ferment up to 100 gallons of beer or wine. If two or more individuals living together are over 18, you can make 200 gallons.


19 posted on 12/02/2004 3:47:34 PM PST by toddlintown (Pull another beer.)
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To: Jaysun
This guy is the real deal:

Popcorn Sutton and his book, "Me and My Likker".

20 posted on 12/02/2004 3:52:01 PM PST by Charles Martel ("Diplomats. The best diplomat I know of is a fully loaded phaser bank" - Cdr. Montgomery Scott)
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To: Charles Martel
This guy is the real deal...Popcorn Sutton and his book, "Me and My Likker".

I saw that guy on the History Channel (I think). He's the real deal without question.
21 posted on 12/02/2004 3:55:10 PM PST by Jaysun (If you are what you eat then I'm cheap, fast, and bad for your health.)
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To: quidnunc

Watch out for the revenuers!


22 posted on 12/02/2004 3:57:09 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: toddlintown

Amendment XXI

Section 1. The eighteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.


Section 2. The transportation or importation into any state, territory, or possession of the United States for delivery or use therein of intoxicating liquors, in violation of the laws thereof, is hereby prohibited.


23 posted on 12/02/2004 4:02:53 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: RonF

Incorrect. Distilling is more tightly controled than brewing. The medical dangers are significantly greater. Recently, Representative Bart Stupak of Michigan sponsored a bill that would have legalized home distilation, but it failed.


24 posted on 12/02/2004 4:04:52 PM PST by Melas
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To: quidnunc

Anybody got a recipe for corn squeezin's? I had some real home-made stuff once- it was delicious. Sweet like Karo corn syrup and smooth and fiery at the same time.

I wish I could get some more...


25 posted on 12/02/2004 4:06:25 PM PST by Mr. K ((this space for rent))
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To: RonF
I forget the rules for hard liquor, but I know you can make up to 200 gallons of beer or wine without any government interference as long as you don't sell it.

100 gallons per adult, up to 200 gal per household, per year.

26 posted on 12/02/2004 4:07:50 PM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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To: RonF
They actually track the amount of sugars and other dextrins that you buy in the store.

It's a means to determine if someone has advanced beyond fermentation into distillation.

My father used to be in charge of a lot of purchasers for chemical companies and always had to deal with some sort of tracking or other.

27 posted on 12/02/2004 4:15:19 PM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: lilylangtree
Watch out for the revenuers!

Them thar guys are revenooers!

28 posted on 12/02/2004 4:17:00 PM PST by NCjim
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To: RonF

I thought the rules on hard liquor were still (no pun intended) ludicrously intrusive.


29 posted on 12/02/2004 4:20:48 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: Wneighbor

You'll go blind!


30 posted on 12/02/2004 4:21:35 PM PST by StoneColdSteveOstrich
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To: toddlintown
You can neither distill nor sell booze without the proper licensing from the Alcohol, Tobacco, Tax and Trade Bureau (TTB)...

Pretty amazing how a federal law could apply to a still for one's own use.

I bet there are a startling number of BATFags drawing a salary from your tax money to keep it that way.

31 posted on 12/02/2004 4:22:59 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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To: NCjim

Without moonshine, there would be no nascar


32 posted on 12/02/2004 4:24:50 PM PST by StoneColdSteveOstrich
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To: quidnunc
I've yet to find the Scotch that beats thirty year old Glen Farclas.

http://www.glenfarclas.co.uk/

33 posted on 12/02/2004 4:27:06 PM PST by Riley ("Do you not know Doctor, that in the Service, one must always choose the lesser of two weevils?")
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To: crazyhorse691

"Does that mean I can reassemble my still? I have got a great mash recipe that turns out a daylosing product."

I used to make gin as a hobby but getting juniper berries out of Sequoia in California has got down right impossible. It was a little harsh but would burn in a zippo (pleasent smell) and kill any GI tract parasite known to man.


34 posted on 12/02/2004 4:30:20 PM PST by dozer7 (Love many, trust few and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: Americanwolf
Give me a good 12 year old Scotch Whiskey! (Preferablly Bushmills or Jamison)........

So you do like your whiskey a bit sweet and fruity.

35 posted on 12/02/2004 4:35:35 PM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: dozer7
would burn in a zippo (pleasent smell) and kill any GI tract parasite known to man

It's called a zippo now? OK, I hope your zippo is feeling better.

36 posted on 12/02/2004 4:37:39 PM PST by 1john2 3and4
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To: quidnunc

I'm a big bourbon fan.

The Olympic Club in Centralia, WA distills an excellent whiskey. It has just the slightest hint of Scotch, bourbon and Irish whiskey. Very hard to explain, but a delicious whiskey.

If you're ever in the area, it's worth a trip in. It's the only place you can get, except for in Portland, OR where I believe it is actually distilled. Apparently, it's legal for most eateries/breweries to distill whiskey, just not to ship it or bottle it and sell it outside of their establishment. I hope the trend continues.


37 posted on 12/02/2004 4:43:23 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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To: Americanwolf
"Give me a good 12 year old Scotch Whiskey! (Preferablly Bushmills or Jamison)"
Last time I checked both Old Bushmills and Jameson were IRISH whiskeys, not Scotch.
38 posted on 12/02/2004 4:46:50 PM PST by GSlob
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To: 1john2 3and4

"would burn in a zippo (pleasent smell) and kill any GI tract parasite known to man

It's called a zippo now? OK, I hope your zippo is feeling better."

Have I dated myself once again? My zippo lighter was given to me by my oldest brother in 1968. Tried burning Bombay Gin in it but just not enough alcohol. The problem I found was that alcohol produces a flame that you can't see most days, lighting one of my stubby cigars solved solved all mustache trimming problems.

best regards

the dozer


39 posted on 12/02/2004 5:00:58 PM PST by dozer7 (Love many, trust few and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: Mr. K

Interesting.... there are some books at http://www.home-distilling.com/ available. Might experiment myself in '05

D-


40 posted on 12/02/2004 5:01:38 PM PST by GoldCountryRedneck
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To: Americanwolf

Bushmills and Jamison's are Irish whiskeys. I have both of them in my liquer cabinet, but tend to drink real 12 and 15 year single malt scotches I have instead (Glenmorangie, Balvenie, Glenfiddich, Macallan). I only pull out the Irish stuff for mixing drinks.


41 posted on 12/02/2004 5:06:59 PM PST by Flying Circus
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To: dozer7
"would burn in a zippo (pleasent smell) and kill any GI tract parasite known to man

I'll try again....

I usually use metamucil, but I've never gotten the pleasant smell.

(I guess the first attempt was a bit too ...ummm, obtuse?)

42 posted on 12/02/2004 5:07:09 PM PST by 1john2 3and4
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To: quidnunc
They're taking this nouvelle whiskey idea in wildly differing directions — rough and powerful, sweet and fruity, gnarled and smoky, mellow and harmonious.

Hmmmm.........
Isn't that kinda the idea for makin' mixed drinks? To sorta change the taste......

43 posted on 12/02/2004 5:08:41 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: 1john2 3and4

"I'll try again....

I usually use metamucil, but I've never gotten the pleasant smell.

(I guess the first attempt was a bit too ...ummm, obtuse?)"

Oh you preying on us dated people. BUT not bad not bad at all. A new data point. Thanks

the dozer


44 posted on 12/02/2004 5:37:12 PM PST by dozer7 (Love many, trust few and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: cowboyway
you got that right.
if it dont burn and bite aint no sense in swillin' it.
45 posted on 12/02/2004 5:52:28 PM PST by 537cant be wrong (no kittie! thats my pot pie!)
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To: hlmencken3

ezra brooks.

the last drink my pop and i had together a week before ol, cancer got the old goat was ezra. what a good night that was for both of us ;-D


46 posted on 12/02/2004 5:55:48 PM PST by 537cant be wrong (no kittie! thats my pot pie!)
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To: eno_
As far as I know, getting the license is no big deal. They mainly want to be able to keep track of who is brewing legally so they can expend their resources on those who are not. I know they used to encourage farmers to get stills licensed to brew grain alcohol for fuel. I believe that the same license would apply to fueling the farmer as it is for the tractor : ^ }
47 posted on 12/02/2004 5:56:38 PM PST by deaconjim (Freep the world!)
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To: quidnunc

both irish whiskeys.
good catch HIc' Hic'


48 posted on 12/02/2004 5:56:45 PM PST by 537cant be wrong (no kittie! thats my pot pie!)
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To: Americanwolf

Well I like a good 12 year old Glenlivet on the rocks.


49 posted on 12/02/2004 6:10:36 PM PST by Licensed-To-Carry (Praise be to the LORD, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle.)
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To: quidnunc

Hills of Connemara

Chorus
Gather up the pots and the old tin can
The mash, the corn, the barley and the bran
Run like the devil from the Excise man
Keep the smoke from rising Barney.

Keep your eyes well-peeled today
The big, tall men are on their way
Searchin' for the mountain tay
In the hills of Connemara

Mountain breezes as they blow
Hear them echo in the valley below
The excise men are on the go
In the hills of Connemara

A gallon for the butcher, a quart for Tom,
A bottle for poor old Father John
To help his prayers and hymns along
In the hills of Connemara.

Stand your ground, now don't you fall
The excise men are at the wall
Jesus Christ, they're drinking it all.
In the hills of Connemara.

Swing to the left and swing to the right.
The Excise men will dance all night.
Drinking up the tay 'til the broad daylight
In the hills of Connemara.


50 posted on 12/02/2004 6:17:56 PM PST by Oschisms
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