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War on The Homefront - IMMIGRATION!
WASHINGTON DISPATCH.COM ^ | DECEMBER 1, 2004 | WILLIAM S. LIND

Posted on 12/02/2004 8:58:17 PM PST by CHARLITE

Focused as we are on Fourth Generation (non-state) war in Iraq and Afghanistan, it is easy to forget that the phenomenon is vastly larger than any single war or opponent, even Islam. An article in a local Washington paper, The Journal, reminds us that 4GW is also being fought on American soil, by parties that have nothing to do with the armies of the Prophet.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtondispatch.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; elsalvadoran; homegrown; immigration; mdofficers; ms13; policetargets; princegeorgescnty; terrorgangs; williamslind

1 posted on 12/02/2004 8:58:18 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE
I was going to add Michelle Malkin's marvelous new townhall.com column, "What Part of 'Enforcement'don't they understand?" - but "kattracks" has already posted it here, so I'd suggest reading it as a companion piece to this one. We MUST begin yelling LOUD AND CLEAR that we want serious action on the entire immigration issue, and it must begin NOW! I'm of the "whatever it takes" school of thought!! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1291746/posts
2 posted on 12/02/2004 9:05:47 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

Time to pound on the Doors of Congress and the WHite House about Controlling Our borders and deporting Illegal Aliens.


3 posted on 12/02/2004 9:06:22 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: CHARLITE

Couldn't agree more!


4 posted on 12/02/2004 9:20:10 PM PST by TheLion
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To: All
ALERT!
About four days ago, a DPS officer in the Tucson sector found a van in the desert filled with weapons and large quantities of Iraqi cash. As far as I know, a search for those who left the van there has been fruitless.

The news has not spilled a single word about this.
6 posted on 12/02/2004 9:58:53 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: All
IMO ILLEGAL immigrants from Mexico are residents of the corrupt government of Mexico's "nation beyond borders." That is what makes Mexico different. More countries are following Mexico as we are seeing.

It is the corrupt government of Mexico's decade-old policy of Mexican Diaspora. It's an economic diaspora.

Nonresident Mexicans (they do not reside in Mexico proper) bring their stomachs to the U.S. but leave their hearts in Mexico. That's the plan and the President's guest worker plan fits very nicely. Indeed, "they do not acculturate, they permanently change the cultural landscape."

The President's "guest worker" plan will not solve any problems. It merely validates economic diaspora.

We have laws already on the books. We have H2B and similar visas. Why do we "need" the "guest worker" plan. We don't. Mexico does. It validates economic diaspora.

7 posted on 12/02/2004 10:07:33 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: CHARLITE

bttt


8 posted on 12/03/2004 12:50:35 AM PST by lainde
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To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender; All; lainde; CHARLITE

Do you believe Congress should pass the intelligence reform bill without the immigration and border security provisions?

Yes 20% 717 votes

No 80% 2908 votes

Total: 3625 votes

www.cnn.com/lou


Contact Senators and House of Reps:

1-877-762-762


9 posted on 12/03/2004 9:08:47 AM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: broadsword

"The news has not spilled a single word about this."

There is a lot they don't bother to spill any words about. Here's a little on a related subject:

Totalization: Sellout of American Workers

by Phyllis Schlafly
Nov. 17, 2004
The Democrats are trying to make a campaign issue out of George W. Bush's alleged plan to "privatize" Social Security, scaring seniors into thinking their checks will be cut off. That is a phony issue; all Bush suggests is to offer younger workers the option (not the compulsion) of transferring a very small part of their Social Security benefit into private investments.

The real threat to Social Security doesn't come from giving young people this opportunity. The threat comes from the Bush Administration's plan to load illegal aliens into the Social Security system, an idea that would skyrocket costs and bankrupt the system at the same time that baby boomers flood into their benefit years.

The code word for this racket is "totalization." The United States has totalization agreements with 20 other countries, which have been reasonable and non-controversial, but totalization with Mexico is TOTALLY different.

The idea behind totalization with other countries is to assure a pension to those few individuals who work legally in two countries by "totalizing" their payments into the pension systems of both countries. All existing totalization agreements are with developed nations whose retirement benefits are on a parity with U.S. benefits, and the affected employees work for companies that have been paying taxes into the other countries' retirement systems.

Workers from the other 20 countries come with documents from their employer verifying that they are authorized to work in the United States. Only a minuscule fraction of Mexicans enter with such documents.

The legitimate goal of totalization with other countries is to avoid double taxation for retirement when employers assign their employees to work temporarily in another country. Reciprocity works because there is rough parity between the number of U.S. workers in the 20 other countries and the foreigners from those countries who work in the United States.

But this goal has no relevance to Mexico. There is no parity whatsoever between the number of Mexicans working in the United States and the number of U.S. citizens working in Mexico, and absolutely no parity in the social security systems of the two countries.

Mexican benefits are not remotely equal to U.S. benefits. Americans receive benefits after working for 10 years, but Mexicans have to work 24 years before receiving any benefits.

Mexican workers receive back in retirement only what they actually paid in, plus interest, whereas the U.S. Social Security system is skewed to give lower-wage earners benefits greatly in excess of what they and their employers contributed.

Mexico has two different retirement programs, one for public-sector employees, which is draining the national treasury, and one for private-sector workers, which is estimated to cover only 40 percent of the workforce. The rest of the workers are in the off-the-record economy (euphemistically called the "informal" sector).

The 10 million Mexicans who have illegally entered the United States previously lived in poverty, did not pay social security taxes in Mexico, and did not work for employers who paid taxes into a retirement plan. If they were working at all, it was in the off-the-record economy.

Illegality is no issue with the countries where we have existing totalization agreements because none of them accounts for even one percent of the U.S illegal population. On the other hand, Mexico provides more than two-thirds of the illegals in the United States.

The Bush totalization plan would pay out billions in Social Security benefits to Mexicans for work they did in the U.S. using fraudulent Social Security numbers, something that Americans would go to jail for doing. It would pay Social Security Disability benefits to Mexicans who worked in the United States as little as 3 years.

The Bush totalization plan would lure even more Mexicans into the United States illegally in the hope of amnesty and eligibility for Social Security benefits. The Bush plan would even cover the Mexicans' spouses and dependents who may never have lived in the United States.

Since few if any of the illegal aliens have built up any equity in the Mexican retirement system, what is there to totalize? Totalization is a plan for the U.S. taxpayers to end up assuming the entire burden.

When George W. Bush became President in 2001, the Mexican government expected the United States to pass amnesty (disguised as a guest worker plan and "regularizing" the entry of Mexicans). After 9/11, Mexico's national policy turned to increasing the number of its nationals working in the United States and getting them to qualify for all the social benefits and privileges Americans receive, from driver's licenses to Social Security and Social Security Disability.

The Social Security commissioners of both Mexico and the Bush Administration signed a totalization agreement in June of 2004, but the text of the agreement has been kept secret. Maybe we will be permitted to see it after the President approves it and sends it to Congress.

Let your Members of Congress know you want them to stop this billion-dollar sellout of American workers and taxpayers.
http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2004/nov04/04-11-17.html
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PDF TOTALIZATION AGREEMENT
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1286668/posts?page=26 Post 36
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http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c108:1:./temp/~c1084uPlbV::
COSPONSORS(29), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]:     (Sort: by date)

Rep Barrett, J. Gresham [SC-3] - 7/22/2004 Rep Bradley, Jeb [NH-1] - 10/6/2004
Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7] - 7/22/2004 Rep Davis, Jo Ann [VA-1] - 7/15/2004
Rep DeFazio, Peter A. [OR-4] - 7/22/2004 Rep Doolittle, John T. [CA-4] - 7/15/2004
Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. [TN-2] - 7/15/2004 Rep English, Phil [PA-3] - 7/15/2004
Rep Gallegly, Elton [CA-24] - 7/15/2004 Rep Garrett, Scott [NJ-5] - 7/22/2004
Rep Goode, Virgil H., Jr. [VA-5] - 7/15/2004 Rep Goodlatte, Bob [VA-6] - 11/17/2004
Rep Hayworth, J. D. [AZ-5] - 7/15/2004 Rep Hostettler, John N. [IN-8] - 7/15/2004
Rep Johnson, Sam [TX-3] - 7/15/2004 Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. [NC-3] - 7/15/2004
Rep King, Steve [IA-5] - 7/15/2004 Rep Manzullo, Donald A. [IL-16] - 9/15/2004
Rep McCotter, Thaddeus G. [MI-11] - 9/15/2004 Rep Miller, Gary G. [CA-42] - 10/6/2004
Rep Miller, Jeff [FL-1] - 7/15/2004 Rep Norwood, Charlie [GA-9] - 7/15/2004
Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14] - 7/22/2004 Rep Royce, Edward R. [CA-40] - 7/15/2004
Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] - 9/15/2004 Rep Smith, Lamar [TX-21] - 7/15/2004
Rep Sullivan, John [OK-1] - 7/15/2004 Rep Tancredo, Thomas G. [CO-6] - 7/15/2004
Rep Whitfield, Ed [KY-1] - 7/22/2004
Expressing the disapproval of the House of Representatives of the Social Security totalization agreement between the United States and Mexico. (Introduced in House)

HRES 720 IH

108th CONGRESS

2d Session

H. RES. 720

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

July 15, 2004

Mr. COLLINS (for himself, Mr. HAYWORTH, Mr. SAM JOHNSON of Texas, Mr. HOSTETTLER, Mr. GOODE, Mr. SULLIVAN, Mr. NORWOOD, Mr. DUNCAN, Mr. SMITH of Texas, Mr. ENGLISH, Mr. KING of Iowa, Mr. MILLER of Florida, Mrs. JO ANN DAVIS of Virginia, Mr. GALLEGLY, Mr. TANCREDO, Mr. JONES of North Carolina, Mr. DOOLITTLE, and Mr. ROYCE) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means




RESOLUTION

Expressing the disapproval of the House of Representatives of the Social Security totalization agreement between the United States and Mexico.


Resolved, That, pursuant to section 233(e)(2) of the Social Security Act, the House of Representatives hereby disapproves the agreement establishing totalization arrangements between the social security system established by title II of such Act and the social security system of Mexico, signed by the Commissioner of Social Security and the Director General, Mexican Social Security Institute, on June 29, 2004.


10 posted on 12/03/2004 12:32:04 PM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: 26lemoncharlie; TheLion; CHARLITE; All

Current Poll:
http://www.lauraingraham.com/

Thank you for participating in our Laura Ingraham poll. We appreciate your response!

Only one vote per poll per visitor is accepted.


Q: Should President Bush offer illegal aliens a pathway toward legalized status?


Answer
Percent

No 78%

Yes 22%


11 posted on 12/03/2004 2:24:50 PM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: AuntB

Thank You, I Voted NO also!


12 posted on 12/03/2004 2:31:47 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: 26lemoncharlie; All

CNN is reporting that Sen. John Warner is not thrilled with this intelligence bill as the Senate wants it. Lou Dobbs is worth watching. We need to work on Warner.

www.senate.gov
Congressional Switchboard. 1-877-762-8762


13 posted on 12/03/2004 3:40:22 PM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: AuntB

Voted. No change in results.


14 posted on 12/03/2004 3:53:14 PM PST by TheLion
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