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History Unearthed (Viking Hoard)
Chester Chronicle ^ | 12-3-2004

Posted on 12/03/2004 3:53:30 PM PST by blam

History unearthed

Dec 3 2004

Chester Chronicle

A HOARD of Viking jewellery has been found by a metal detector enthusiast in the Cheshire countryside.

The finder, Steve Reynoldson from Keighley in West Yorkshire, made the discovery near Huxley on Sunday during a metal detecting rally which attracted almost 100 enthusiasts.

Archaeologist Dan Garner, who works for Chester Archaeology, went to the site where he confirmed the booty of 20 silver arm bands was likely to date from the Viking period in the 10th century.

Mr Garner said: 'Of the treasure-detected finds in the area, it has to be one of the more significant ones, I would have thought.'

He believes the highly-decorated bands, which were bent-over, were probably being stored in preparation for re-use as currency.

Mr Garner believes the location, close to the River Gowy, is significant since Vikings used the rivers as a means of communication.

'The idea is the Vikings would have been coming up and down the river in their Long boats over a period and I imagine someone buried their booty but unfortunately they never came back to dig it up again.'

Mr Garner said the find was close to a discovery of Anglo-Saxon pennies by the Gowy marshes at Waverton in 1997 which an inquest determined had probably belonged to a Viking.

'It could be the two hoards are related in some way,' added Mr Garner.

Derrick Bell of Overton, near Wrexham, who attended Sunday's rally organised by the Lune Valley Metal Detecting Club, said the condition of items, which were put on display on the day, was 'absolutely superb'.

He said: 'It's the best find I have ever seen dug up. I was 20 yards away when he shouted that he had found something. He was very down-to-earth. He wasn't really jumping for joy. I think he was playing it cool.'

Mr Bell said the arm bands were made from flat pieces of silver and with engravings made up of dots, which looked as though they had been created by a tool similar to a centre punch.

'There was a cross on one and chevrons on another,' he said. 'I would say from what I have seen - I've been detecting since I was 17 - that it was probably a jeweller's hoard, put there for safekeeping.

'Three of them were undecorated and there was quite a bit of lead around the find. Possibly there was a lead plate on top or possibly it was part of a bag which would be completely gone.'

Mr Bell, who has previously found Medieval coins, a bronze age axe head and spear head as well as Roman articles, found a coin dating from 1270, during the reign of Edward I, at Sunday's rally.

But he loved being in the presence of such a significant discovery by his colleague.

'The fact I was standing there while it was being dug out was fantastic,' said Mr Bell.

A bronze brooch which he personally detected, which is possibly Saxon or Viking, is currently being examined by an expert at the British Museum.

'The little things I have found myself added to the finds of other people collectively tell a story about our history, so everything should be recorded.'

Inquest rules on Viking hoard

IT WAS seven years ago that metal detector enthusiast Denis Price from Christleton found a hoard of silver coins which were probably dropped by a Viking who lost his purse more than 1,000 years ago.

Mr Price, of Hawthorn Road, donated the rare Anglo-Saxon pennies to Chester's Grosvenor Museum after an inquest in 2000.

He found the eight whole coins and three fragments while out with his metal detector at a Waverton farm.

Coin expert Dr Sandy Campbell, a Tarporley GP, of Brereton Park, near Tarvin, told the inquest: 'One is tempted to the view that this hoard is the contents of a purse belonging to a Viking, who for some reason found himself wandering along the Gowy marshes, possibly in connection with the known Viking raid of 980AD, but this can be no more than speculation.'

Dr Campbell said the coins were all from the reign of King Edgar (957-975AD) who was king of Mercia and Northumbria and King of England.

No more than 120-130 of this type of coin were known. Cheshire coroner Nicholas Rheinberg said because of a change in law this was the last treasure trove case in Britain to be decided by an inquest jury, from now on the coroner alone would decide who would keep finds.

Link with famous treasure trove examined

THE hoard of Viking silverware found in the Cheshire countryside could have come from the massive Cuerdale Hoard discovered near Preston in 1840.

The Cuerdale Hoard is the greatest Viking silver treasure trove ever found outside Russia and although it dwarfs the

Huxley discovery in scale, there are some common features.

Archaeologist Dan Garner said items found in Cheshire were similar to those found in the Lancashire hoard which was also discovered in an isolated spot close to a waterway, the River Ribble.

The Cuerdale Hoard was located in a lead-lined box and in the Cheshire case the treasure was either wrapped in a lead sheet or could also have been in a lead-lined wooden box which had rotted away.

Mr Garner said: 'It's certainly possible the hoard from Huxley is a portion of the Cuerdale Hoard paid to a specific leader to do something.'

There were two explanations for the Cuer-dale Hoard. One is that the Vikings, who were expelled from Dublin by the Irish, were building up a war chest with a view to retaking the settlement, which ultimately they did.

The other is that the Vikings fled with the booty from Ireland and buried it with intention of digging it up later.

Mr Garner added:

'The items found in the Cuer-dale Hoard were not Scandinavian but objects made to suit a mixed taste for both Irish and Viking people.'

When the Vikings were thrown out of Dublin they settled in Britain from the Wirral up through Lancashire and into Cumbria

The legend of Ingimund, a supposed Viking leader, has it that he wanted to take Chester from the English because of its access to the Irish Sea via the Dee but they failed.

So the archaeologist said another theory could be that the silver bullion found near Chester was buried by Vikings who were in hostile territory and buried their treasure at a time of insecurity.

The Cuerdale Hoard found on May 15, 1840, by workmen far exceeds in scale and range any hoard found in the Scandinavian homelands or in the western areas of Viking settlement.

Find either lost or loot

AN inquest must be held in such cases to decide whether the hoard should remain with the finder or be handed over to the Crown.

The rule is that if it is believed the original owner accidentally lost their possessions the finder can keep the items but if the treasure had been deliberately hidden for safe-keeping it must be handed over to HM Queen as 'treasure trove'.

In this instance, it seems likely the find will be deemed 'treasure trove' but the finder will be compensated by The Crown and the money split with the landowner.

Because the find involves silver it had to be reported to Nick Herepath, Cheshire, Greater Manchester & Merseyside Finds Liaison Officer at Liverpool Museum who will inform the coroner.

Once in a lifetime haul

John Ferguson, who organised the Lune Valley Metal Detecting Club rally on Sunday, described the discovery as 'a once in a lifetime find' which was of considerable historical significance.

Any landowners willing to let his group detect on their land can raise money for their favourite charity through the admission fee and, in addition, the proceeds of any finds are split 50/50 between the finder and themselves.

Ring John for details on 07749 442110.


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KEYWORDS: archaeology; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; hoard; proofreadingfriend; sisterhoardhalfofit; unearthed; viking; whatisaviling
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1 posted on 12/03/2004 3:53:31 PM PST by blam
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To: Admin Moderator

Please correct the title, 'Viling' should be 'Viking'. Thanks.


2 posted on 12/03/2004 3:54:50 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


3 posted on 12/03/2004 3:55:25 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Viling hoards must be treasures that make you do bad things.


4 posted on 12/03/2004 3:55:34 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: blam
I just wondered if the Vilings at some point had been wiped out by the Moops.
5 posted on 12/03/2004 3:55:54 PM PST by FredZarguna (Ready now thy pajamas. For the Dark Queen begins to gather all evil things unto herself.)
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To: FredZarguna

Moors!
Moops!

Pssssssssssshhhhhhhhhh


6 posted on 12/03/2004 3:56:42 PM PST by GRRRRR (Proud to be an American in a RED COUNTY!)
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To: blam

Those vile Viking villains.


7 posted on 12/03/2004 3:57:04 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: blam

I'm told the Dames were particularly vicious Vilings, especially on sale days.


8 posted on 12/03/2004 3:57:45 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: blam

btt


9 posted on 12/03/2004 3:58:18 PM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie.)
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To: FredZarguna; Eaker; Flyer; RikaStrom; Jim Robinson
I just wondered if the Vilings at some point had been wiped out by the Moops.

The continued bashing of the Vilings combined with the blind
lionization of the Moops on this board is getting out of hand.

I blame Bush and that Jim Robinsoy guy.

10 posted on 12/03/2004 4:01:47 PM PST by humblegunner (And who knows what else?)
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To: GRRRRR
I'm waiting for the Viling Litties to ZOT this thread...
11 posted on 12/03/2004 4:02:38 PM PST by FredZarguna (Ready now thy pajamas. For the Dark Queen begins to gather all evil things unto herself.)
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To: Junior; blam

Viling hoard leaders



12 posted on 12/03/2004 4:07:48 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Junior; blam

Viling hoard leaders



13 posted on 12/03/2004 4:07:49 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: blam

One typo and an otherwise interesting post is totally stuned!


14 posted on 12/03/2004 4:09:19 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: humblegunner
The abuses of the Vilings throughout history have been series. But we cannot use this as an excuse to ignore the hugh contributions of the Moops to Spanish culture.
15 posted on 12/03/2004 4:09:54 PM PST by FredZarguna (Weasels Stuned my Beeber: Or, How I Learned to Live with Embarrassing NoSpellCheck Titles.)
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To: FredZarguna

ROTFLMAO!!!


16 posted on 12/03/2004 4:11:01 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
We'll teach this poor slob to attempt an edifying post early on a Friday evening.
17 posted on 12/03/2004 4:13:13 PM PST by FredZarguna (Weasels Stuned my Beeber: Or, How I Learned to Live with Embarrassing NoSpellCheck Titles.)
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To: FredZarguna

Weren't the Moops defeated by the Hngs?


18 posted on 12/03/2004 4:13:53 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: FredZarguna

Not to mention the Beebers contributions to North African history.


19 posted on 12/03/2004 4:15:00 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Junior
Not to mention the Beebers contributions to North African history.

They got that by default. Asked how they'd divide Africa between them, famous Viling raider Sven Snorkkelson replied, "Leave it to Beebers."

20 posted on 12/03/2004 4:19:34 PM PST by FredZarguna (Weasels Stuned my Beeber: Or, How I Learned to Live with Embarrassing NoSpellCheck Titles.)
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To: FredZarguna

The Vilings took every exposed monastery from Lindisfarne to Dublin, ruthlessly sacking them and slaughtering the inhabitants, and when they were finished Ragnar Redbeard announced "all your base are belong to us!"


21 posted on 12/03/2004 4:23:23 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: FredZarguna; RikaStrom; Eaker; Xenalyte
we cannot use this as an excuse to ignore the hugh contributions of the Moops to Spanish culture.

The influence of the Moops, as defined by the prominent scholars
of both our time AND that of others has traditionally been:

"I SPIT upon the Moops, and all that they have laid before us."

Sorry, but it's true. I minored in Moop history.

Humblegunner, MMH, DMH.

22 posted on 12/03/2004 4:25:58 PM PST by humblegunner (And who knows what else?)
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To: blam

Those darn Vilings! They're so, so, so.. Vile!


23 posted on 12/03/2004 4:26:39 PM PST by freedumb2003 (When does the Revolution start? I'm going for a bike ride for a while. Please fill me in later.)
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To: freedumb2003

They may be, but they are also responsible for all those stune circles found throughout Europe -- including Stunehenge.


24 posted on 12/03/2004 4:31:24 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: blam

Like the Vandals, the Vilings are disrespected simply because of an etymological linkage.

The Moops, however, are no Rodney Dangerfields!


25 posted on 12/03/2004 4:31:54 PM PST by headsonpikes (Another five-fingered Canadian... ;^))
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To: FredZarguna
Leave it to Beebers."

There are those who might wish to hunt you down for a remark like that.

I'd keep an ear cocked for the baying of hounds, if I were you!

26 posted on 12/03/2004 4:34:59 PM PST by headsonpikes (Another five-fingered Canadian... ;^))
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To: Junior

There is a GGG thread on Stunehenge. Something about that they used bebers to get the rocks into place.


27 posted on 12/03/2004 4:37:21 PM PST by freedumb2003 (When does the Revolution start? I'm going for a bike ride for a while. Please fill me in later.)
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To: Admin Moderator

It was better with the original headline. Now none of our posts make any sense :(


28 posted on 12/03/2004 4:38:46 PM PST by freedumb2003 (When does the Revolution start? I'm going for a bike ride for a while. Please fill me in later.)
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To: humblegunner
Then I don't need to tell you that the Vilings would have done well to keep in mind what Isabekka of Castike recommended concerning the Moops: "Hit 'em hard when their faces are in the rug, and their asses are in the air."

FredZarguna, HSD.
29 posted on 12/03/2004 4:40:11 PM PST by FredZarguna (Weasels Stuned my Beeber: Or, How I Learned to Live with Embarrassing NoSpellCheck Titles.)
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To: blam

Cool article!

Thanks for posting it!


30 posted on 12/03/2004 4:41:40 PM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: blam

bttt

unpredictably funny thread!


31 posted on 12/03/2004 4:42:28 PM PST by pau1f0rd
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To: freedumb2003
It was better with the original headline.

It's a Viling coverup conspiracy, and it has been going on for hundreds of years.

How many times did you read of the Vilings in school?
None.

What do you know of the Viling contribution to the Constitution?
Nothing.

This proves my case.

32 posted on 12/03/2004 4:44:24 PM PST by humblegunner (And who knows what else?)
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To: freedumb2003

Not only that, but a couple dozen of us are going to kvetch like crazy when somebody's search on "Vilings" fails and it's reposted.


33 posted on 12/03/2004 4:44:51 PM PST by FredZarguna (Weasels Stuned my Beeber: Or, How I Learned to Live with Embarrassing NoSpellCheck Titles.)
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To: Junior

Viling hoards must be treasures that make you do bad things.

Only if they are buried twice, then they are Re-viling hoards.


34 posted on 12/03/2004 4:46:13 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: headsonpikes
I'd keep an ear cocked for the baying of hounds, if I were you!

Virtual hounds: are they e-baying?

(Now looking very nervously about, indeed.)

35 posted on 12/03/2004 4:47:22 PM PST by FredZarguna (Weasels Stuned my Beeber: Or, How I Learned to Live with Embarrassing NoSpellCheck Titles.)
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To: humblegunner
It's a Viling coverup conspiracy

In league with the Dutch and the Freemasons

36 posted on 12/03/2004 4:48:16 PM PST by freedumb2003 (When does the Revolution start? I'm going for a bike ride for a while. Please fill me in later.)
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To: blam
Ah, those hoarding hordes and the hoards those hordes hoarded!
37 posted on 12/03/2004 4:48:46 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: tet68
Viling mama to baby boy: "That is an enormous amount of gold! Did you hoard all these coins by yourself?"
Viling boy, "No, sis whored half of 'em during fleet week."

[rim shot]

38 posted on 12/03/2004 4:51:31 PM PST by FredZarguna (Vilings Stuned my Beeber: Or, How I Learned to Live with Embarrassing NoSpellCheck Titles.)
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To: VadeRetro

The older ones are hoary hoarding hordes.


39 posted on 12/03/2004 4:52:38 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
hoary hoarding hordes.

Hardy har har!

40 posted on 12/03/2004 4:53:37 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: Billthedrill
The older ones are hoary hoarding hordes.

... And the hordes you rowed in with!

41 posted on 12/03/2004 4:55:03 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: VadeRetro
"Ah, those hoarding hordes and the hoards those hordes hoarded!"

When I saw your post to me, I thought some sanity had arrived to the thread...but, NO!

42 posted on 12/03/2004 4:59:25 PM PST by blam
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To: humblegunner
"How many times did you read of the Vilings in school?"

Didn't the Vilings have Thorpe the god of blunder?

43 posted on 12/03/2004 5:02:22 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: blam
When I saw your post to me, I thought some sanity had arrived to the thread...

The garbage man isn't the UPS guy, either.

44 posted on 12/03/2004 5:02:40 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: blam
Cool find!

Unfortunately, the British IRS will be knocking on this man's door soon.

45 posted on 12/03/2004 5:02:53 PM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: blam
Know what you're going through. One lousy goof and it can be weeks living it down.

Two or three years ago I told someone that Romania is landlocked. Just got kidded on that one again again tonight.

46 posted on 12/03/2004 5:05:02 PM PST by VadeRetro (Nothing means anything when you go to Hell for knowing what things mean.)
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To: VadeRetro; blam

I think the Viling kitties has staying power.


47 posted on 12/03/2004 5:06:34 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: VadeRetro
"The garbage man isn't the UPS guy, either."

Regardless, my dogs don't like either.

48 posted on 12/03/2004 5:06:47 PM PST by blam
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To: freedumb2003
It's a Viling coverup conspiracy

In league with the Dutch and the Freemasons

Wooden shoes, secret handshakes and Horney Helmeted Hoarders?

49 posted on 12/03/2004 5:07:54 PM PST by OSHA (He is unbeatable. Christ, we beat him twice, and he's still President. (DU Cherry.))
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To: DannyTN

Man, it's Viling Litties.


50 posted on 12/03/2004 5:08:07 PM PST by FredZarguna (Vilings Stuned my Beeber: Or, How I Learned to Live with Embarrassing NoSpellCheck Titles.)
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