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Stop the insanity OPRAH GIVEAWAYS MAKE HER A BAD SANTA
The Toronto Sun ^ | December 4th 2004 | Bill Brioux

Posted on 12/04/2004 8:41:18 AM PST by xp38

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To: Constantine XIII

You got something to say...why don't you spit it out instead of hiding behind insults.


41 posted on 12/04/2004 9:53:05 AM PST by OwnershipSociety
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To: OwnershipSociety

Oh, come on. Don't be so thin skinned. :P

You know exactly why I said what I said. It would have just been stating the obvious.

Since you insist, though, why should Oprah give her money to anyone? She earned it, it's hers. :P

And if she wants to talk GM into giving away free Pontiacs, then why should we complain, outside of the fact that it promotes her kooky personality cult?


42 posted on 12/04/2004 9:56:34 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: xp38
Are you aware that Oprah doesn't give this stuff using her money, that she ask the various manufacturer's to donate the products? None of these things was purchased by her. She is a greedy fraud who extols the good of her Angel Network then goes home to her 30 or 40 million dollar home in her 20 million dollar jet.
43 posted on 12/04/2004 10:11:56 AM PST by Free2BeMe
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To: Muleteam1
I wonder of Oprah has Walmart's liberal return policy when these cars start to break down in the first year?

Actually, GMC gave the cars to Oprah...she didn't pay for them herself, so I am sure the cars are covered by warrenty. Who the hell would crab about some rich person, finally, giving something away? A person can do what they want with their money, spend it, give it away, whatever. Some of the people in the audience probably really needed those cars. I do not like Oprah in general but I see nothing wrong with this or see where it is sending the wrong message. On the other hand, swan and similar shows have very bad messeages indeed.

44 posted on 12/04/2004 10:13:42 AM PST by calex59
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To: Ronzo

And remember, Oprah s did say that GM gave the cars. They didn't cost her a dime. I'm 99% sure I heard that right. Anybody know? I suspect that most of her give aways are provided by the manufacturers as advertising on her far reaching show.

She did use her money when she went to Africa last year and prpbably does in other similar situations.

I'm sort of on the fence about all that. Material things are not big on my list, but there is something nice about seeing people in need provided for. I don't think it is mandatory to be Christian to be used by God. If He uses Oprah to help some people, that has to be a good thing. I think.

Sure, give aways are great ratings generators. But even that is part of the cycle. High ratings generate the money that provides the way for philanthopy. If she had bombed all those 19 years ago, lot's of needs may not have been met. Or would He have used someone else. Probably.

It seems to be circular. God provides the means, and prepares the heart of the giver. Maybe in the vastness of the give aways there is the Lord, directing some of it to His glory.

I have to do some more thinking on the subject but I promise to do it in my prayer closet. I've thrown out some thoughts. Maybe some of you can sort through this mess and show me the light.


45 posted on 12/04/2004 10:25:18 AM PST by Oreo Kookey (How, indeed, do we click our tongues at beheadings and look the other way from abortion? I weep.)
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To: Ronzo

philantophy = philanthropy


46 posted on 12/04/2004 10:32:46 AM PST by Oreo Kookey (How, indeed, do we click our tongues at beheadings and look the other way from abortion? I weep.)
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To: Oreo Kookey

See post #23 about the car give-away. Gm donated them. Some of the people who received them were truly needy but that made it even more difficult to pay the taxes due. Maybe Oprah could've paid those taxes for them? And I really doubt that very many of the people in her studio audiences who receive the gifts are needy.
As I said before, I don't care that she has these shows but I don't consider them true charity on her part. I think that her visits to Africa and the giving there may qualify as charity.


47 posted on 12/04/2004 10:40:41 AM PST by unbalanced but fair
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To: xp38

=== TV always has had instant-prize programs. In the '50s, Queen For A Day asked the studio audience to pick which contestant had the most pathetic life -- and then reward them with a recliner.


My grandma came in second and only got a vacuum cleaner, I think.


48 posted on 12/04/2004 11:23:52 AM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: xp38

So they grovel for the scraps thrown to them from the table of the Masters. Next they will be kissing their feet. Have these people no dignity, no self respect, no shame?!

These are the gods' of Liberals.


49 posted on 12/04/2004 11:59:45 AM PST by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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To: Constantine XIII

oh


50 posted on 12/04/2004 1:34:54 PM PST by OwnershipSociety
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To: xp38

And hard work and perseverance takes a back seat to TV jackpots and giveaways. It sends a completely wrong message to those who are struggling to make ends meet.


51 posted on 12/04/2004 1:50:39 PM PST by Bullish
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To: calex59
Based on my experience with GM's automobiles in the recent past, they probably should give their cars away, especially if they were the little Grand Am. I was not crabbing about Oprah's actions as I have never seen her program. The little information I have on Oprah is reading the tabloid headlines while standing in the grocery line; i.e., fat then thin, hefty then slim, etc. I think she is on one of the networks isn't she?

Muleteam1

52 posted on 12/04/2004 2:11:25 PM PST by Muleteam1
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To: calex59
Based on my experience with GM's automobiles in the recent past, they probably should give their cars away, especially if they were the little Grand Am. I was not crabbing about Oprah's actions as I have never seen her program. The little information I have on Oprah is reading the tabloid headlines while standing in the grocery line; i.e., fat then thin, hefty then slim, etc. I think she is on one of the networks isn't she?

Muleteam1

53 posted on 12/04/2004 2:12:24 PM PST by Muleteam1
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To: Askel5

The prizes were very domestic. I was a kid, we "played" Queen for a Day, for me, it was all about the robe.


54 posted on 12/04/2004 5:15:06 PM PST by KTpig
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To: robertpaulsen
Her money? Rich people don't get that way by giving aeway their money.

You are correct sir. Oprah was giving away GM's money...which was good advertising on the behalf of GM. Oprah provided the means, GM the ends...

55 posted on 12/04/2004 10:30:07 PM PST by Ronzo (God Bless & Protect all of our troops, whever they serve.)
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To: Oreo Kookey
I have to do some more thinking on the subject but I promise to do it in my prayer closet. I've thrown out some thoughts. Maybe some of you can sort through this mess and show me the light.

As others have pointed out, the "gift" was not as generous as one would think, considering that Uncle Sam wants to collect the $5000+ taxes on those cars before the people can take them home!!!!

If these people couldn't afford the payments on a new car, I seriously doubt they have $5000 on hand to pay the IRS... It would be interesting to see just how many people were able to actually keep the cars...

56 posted on 12/04/2004 10:34:58 PM PST by Ronzo (God Bless & Protect all of our troops, whever they serve.)
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To: KTpig
. . . for me, it was all about the robe.


57 posted on 12/04/2004 10:51:49 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: Ronzo
"which was good advertising on the behalf of GM"

Not really.

When I heard about Oprah giving away the cars, my first reaction was, "Why doesn't cheap-as$$ GM give away the cars? They're getting all this free advertising because of Oprah's good will. I sure hope she got a good quantity discount from them."

I'd be willing to bet that, to this day, half of America still thinks she gave away the cars, not GM.

As proof, this latest giveaway. Who's giving away, Oprah or the manufacturers? I don't know, do you?

58 posted on 12/05/2004 6:42:05 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: BraveMan
Back in those days, the contestants really went through hell to get that washer-dryer.

With stories like those today, they'd get a book deal and a possible made-for-TV movie.

59 posted on 12/05/2004 6:44:45 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: BraveMan

Thanks for the photo and the memory jolt. It was about the crown too. I forgot that the show was so much about the misery story. I gusss it didn't do too much damage, I don't watch reality shows.


60 posted on 12/05/2004 2:33:14 PM PST by KTpig
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