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Group wants end to 'Happy Holidays'
Maine Today ^ | December 04, 2004 | GARY REMAL

Posted on 12/04/2004 12:13:54 PM PST by yonif

AUGUSTA -- "Happy holidays!"

Bah humbug, says Maine Christian Civic League Executive Director Michael Health.

It's "Merry Christmas," says Heath, who recently kicked off a campaign in Maine to bolster traditional greetings in lieu of more politically correct salutations.

"Tired of the secularist scrooges who are taking over Maine's cultural landscape? So are we," Heath wrote in a recent message to league members. "That is why we are teaming up with the Alliance Defense Fund to fight Scrooge-like secular intolerance this Christmas season."

Heath said he wrote the message as his part of the national Christian group's campaign. The Alliance Defense Fund is looking for cases to test in court and Heath asked his members for examples.

"There is increasing hostility toward Christians that is expressed outside the church publicly. It's something that seems to be increasing, and increasingly American people are being asked to push expressions of Christ to the margins or out of view, and this is part of that," Heath said. "Our point is, people can say 'Merry Christmas' in schools or wherever."

Heath said Friday that he received a complaint from a member alleging a teacher -- at a school he declined to identify -- had instructed students not to use "Merry Christmas," suggesting "happy holidays" instead. He said he was sending that information to alliance lawyers.

The issue has struck a nerve among Christian Civic League members, judging from their reaction to a new Alliance Defense Fund lapel pin which says: "Merry Christmas Believe It. Say It."

"They gave us 500 pins and we handed them all out in just two days without any advertising on our part, so there's a lot of concern about this," Heath said.

Some of Heath's past campaigns have been controversial. In the past year, he was criticized for suggesting Gov. John Baldacci may have "one of those imaginary gay genes" and was suspended for a month when he began an effort to identify gay legislators and state officials.

"We've got to represent diversity and be tolerant of everything except, I guess, Jesus at Christmastime," Heath said. "I see it as the opposite of that; they're being tolerant of everything except Christianity or Christ."

The Christian Civic League director said legal challenges by the American Civil Liberties Union and others over use of religious symbols in public places are the most visible assaults on Christian Christmas. And he said Christians feel increasing pressure to avoid symbols of their faith.

"Over time, they've been radicalizing this. We started with freedom of religion. Now we're to the point where the default is you keep quiet about your deeply held beliefs," Heath said.

"They need to back off and the ACLU needs to back off and stop pushing so hard against anything that includes Christmas carols and those kinds of things, just like a scrooge."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: christmas; morality
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1 posted on 12/04/2004 12:13:54 PM PST by yonif
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To: yonif

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!!


2 posted on 12/04/2004 12:15:38 PM PST by MisterRepublican ("I must go. I must be elusive.")
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To: yonif

Good; its a nauseating phrase considering why it is use.


3 posted on 12/04/2004 12:15:44 PM PST by Aetius
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To: MisterRepublican

MERRY CHRISTMAS!


4 posted on 12/04/2004 12:16:04 PM PST by blackeagle
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To: yonif

Good for him. The rest of us need to do the same thing.


5 posted on 12/04/2004 12:16:22 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Aetius

Good; its a nauseating phrase considering why it is in use.


6 posted on 12/04/2004 12:16:27 PM PST by Aetius
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To: Aetius
Pretty soon, they'll find "holidays" too religious to pass Constitutional muster, and that word also shall be banned, excluded from free speech as an obscene affront to freedom from religion. How shall we replace it? Shall we just not celebrate Christmas, or not celebrate the Solemnity on New Years'? Go to work or school through the traditional winter break? Eternally forbid Christmas trees, and most importantly, Christmas shopping and gift-giving? Where does this go?
8 posted on 12/04/2004 12:20:24 PM PST by dufekin (Four more years! Liberals, learn: whiners are losers every time.)
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To: yonif
MERRY CHRISTMAS

9 posted on 12/04/2004 12:23:00 PM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: All

"That is why we are teaming up with the Alliance Defense Fund to fight Scrooge-like secular intolerance this Christmas season"... The Christian Civic League director said legal challenges by the American Civil Liberties Union and others over use of religious symbols in public places are the most visible assaults on Christian Christmas. And he said Christians feel increasing pressure to avoid symbols of their faith... "They need to back off and the ACLU needs to back off and stop pushing so hard against anything that includes Christmas carols and those kinds of things, just like a scrooge."


Teaming up with the ADF is an excellent idea. You can join the fight against the ACLU and their ilk by becoming involved with and supporting the Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) - http://www.alliancedefensefund.org and the following organizations:

American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) - http://www.aclj.org

Thomas More Law Center (TMLC) - http://www.thomasmore.org

The Rutherford Institute - http://www.rutherford.org/

Stop the ACLU Coalition - http://www.stoptheaclu.org


Here are just a few recent examples of how two of those organizations are fighting back:

ADF Contacts Over 3,600 School Districts Over Attempts To Censor Christmas

ADF: 700 lawyers ready to fight ACLU lawsuits

ADF: Pentagons' Warning About Boyscouts Is Absurd

Thomas More Law Center: Town of Palm Beach Pays $50,000 In Attorney Fees Apologizes To Women In Nativity Lawsuit


Additional information:

The ACLU must be destroyed: Joseph Farah supports Boy Scouts, urges Americans to fight back

Citizens mobilized to stop ACLU (seeks to consign group to 'ash heap of history')

ACLU fulfilling communist agenda

Revealing FACTS on the ACLU from its own writings

See how YOUR Senator or Representative ranks with the ACLU

10 posted on 12/04/2004 12:30:51 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: yonif; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...

Keep Christ in Christmas!

Catholic Ping - please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


11 posted on 12/04/2004 12:31:02 PM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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To: yonif

>in lieu of more politically correct salutations>

Why are we afraid to just be honest about it and call it "Communist correct"?


12 posted on 12/04/2004 12:32:33 PM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: yonif

I'm not personally religious.

But Happy Holidays has always struck me as a wimpy way out.

I say "Merry Christmas!"

And to all a good night.

D


13 posted on 12/04/2004 12:32:37 PM PST by daviddennis (;)
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To: dufekin

Oh they certainly won't forbid or discourage the shopping.

The merchants would nail their collective hides to the barn door.


14 posted on 12/04/2004 12:33:39 PM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
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To: yonif; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; milford421; TexasTaysor; Liz

BTTT


15 posted on 12/04/2004 12:33:47 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: G.Mason

16 posted on 12/04/2004 12:34:38 PM PST by farfromhome (Not tested on animals... That means they're testing it on you!)
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To: Aetius

Good; its a nauseating phrase considering why it is use.


So is that statement!


17 posted on 12/04/2004 12:38:18 PM PST by loboinok (GUN CONTROL IS HITTING WHAT YOU AIM AT.)
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To: EdReform; NYer

MERRY CHRISTMAS

18 posted on 12/04/2004 12:40:19 PM PST by Liz
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To: MisterRepublican
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!!

And Happy Hanukkah to all our FRiends who celebrate that event.

19 posted on 12/04/2004 12:41:12 PM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: yonif

The other day I was at a certain store and the clerk bid me a HAPPY HOLIDAYS and I stared her in the eye and said..."No, you mean MERRY CHRISTMAS"!!! HA! She smiled and went about her business!


20 posted on 12/04/2004 12:42:10 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: dufekin
The Secular Taliban needs to get the message that they have worn out their welcome.
21 posted on 12/04/2004 12:42:13 PM PST by Liz
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To: yonif

hey, I know Michael Heath. He's a good guy.


22 posted on 12/04/2004 12:45:54 PM PST by Boxsford
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To: Aetius

A good reply to 'happy holidays' is...

'happy holy days to you too'


23 posted on 12/04/2004 12:47:11 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: All

The issue has struck a nerve among Christian Civic League members, judging from their reaction to a new Alliance Defense Fund lapel pin which says: "Merry Christmas Believe It. Say It."


These are nice pins! Click here to see them.

24 posted on 12/04/2004 12:48:33 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Liz; farfromhome
Thanks to you both.

You have saved me "shoping" time. ;)

I copied them and will send them out with my Chistmas emails. One on top and one on the bottom.

25 posted on 12/04/2004 12:50:46 PM PST by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: PhillyJ; airborne; Born Conservative; Fiddlstix; little jeremiah

Ping


26 posted on 12/04/2004 12:57:06 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: yonif
We've got to represent diversity and be tolerant of everything except, I guess, Jesus at Christmastime," Heath said. "I see it as the opposite of that; they're being tolerant of everything except Christianity or Christ."

Somebody finally nails it. We tolerate things like this in the media all the time:

Funny how the left can't tolerate "Merry Christmas" a couple weeks a year.

27 posted on 12/04/2004 1:08:36 PM PST by rcocean
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To: yonif

Why do I foresee a "Lump Of Coal" in this idjit's future?

Find his address and add his name to Michelle Malin's "Operation Lump Of Coal" http://www.michellemalkin.com.


Just a thought.

Jack.


28 posted on 12/04/2004 1:12:52 PM PST by Jack Deth (When In Doubt.... Empty The Magazine!)
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To: Lindykim; DirtyHarryY2K; Siamese Princess; Ed Current; Grampa Dave; Luircin; gonow; John O; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

I've slacked off, so you're all going to be getting quite a few articles pung out, back to back.

Many Christ-mass articles. The ACLU hates God, there is no doubt about it. And a huge majority of people in America are Christians, and Christmas is such a tradition here, the ACLU and their ilk see it solely as a huge target to destroy.

I'm surprised they haven't hassled for a new calender dating system - I mean, 2004 years since WHAT?

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.

Note: Funny thing is, I hate Christmas. No, don't get me wrong. I hate the Santa Claus, reindeer, decorations before Thanksgiving, advertising and merchandizing tidal wave, appeals to the crassest of materialism resulting in credit card frenzy, and making the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ into a mayhem of selfish indulgence.

But Jesus' Birthday? A favorite day! I think I'll make a huge banner and put it on my fence (replacing the Bush/Cheney sign) - "Merry Christmas"!!


29 posted on 12/04/2004 1:15:00 PM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: yonif
Merry
CENSOREDmas

30 posted on 12/04/2004 1:28:07 PM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: G.Mason
Glad you liked it.

Merry Christmas.

31 posted on 12/04/2004 2:58:55 PM PST by Liz
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To: Liz; EdReform; little jeremiah
Playing With Fire (Militant Atheists Pushing America To The Brink)/ACLU

The midwife at the births of Nazi Germany, Red China and the Soviet Union was atheism. And this is where the zealots at the A.C.L.U. would ultimately lead us - to a godless paradise presided over by the legal arm of their organization and a host of incipient Hitlers and Stalins and their executioner goon squads.

All across the nation we are being besieged by hordes of malcontents using our out-of-control courts to enforce limitations upon our freedom to proclaim and practice our religious and political freedoms. In the last election we saw the reaction of a huge number of Americans to what they recognize is a tyranny of a minority determined to trample on the rights of the majority.


32 posted on 12/04/2004 3:05:14 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans Articles = GIM=GAY INFECTED MEDIOTS!)
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To: EdReform

Thanks for the link. We're ordering some of those pins!


33 posted on 12/04/2004 3:09:51 PM PST by Lindykim (")
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To: Grampa Dave
The midwife at the births of Nazi Germany, Red China and the Soviet Union was atheism. And this is where the zealots at the A.C.L.U. would ultimately lead us - to a godless paradise presided over by the legal arm of their organization and a host of incipient Hitlers and Stalins and their executioner goon squads......... All across the nation we are being besieged by hordes of malcontents using our out-of-control courts to enforce limitations upon our freedom to proclaim and practice our religious and political freedoms. In the last election we saw the reaction of a huge number of Americans to what they recognize is a tyranny of a minority determined to trample on the rights of the majority.

The Secular Taliban will be stopped.

34 posted on 12/04/2004 3:18:31 PM PST by Liz
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To: texasflower

You exactly right!!!
MERRY CHRISTMAS


35 posted on 12/04/2004 3:36:27 PM PST by Isabelle
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To: yonif

Good to see people are fighting back.

Everyone has the right to never be offended, even by the most unoffensive things, unless they're Christians.


37 posted on 12/04/2004 3:54:57 PM PST by Guillermo (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad.)
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To: little jeremiah
I think I'll make a huge banner and put it on my fence (replacing the Bush/Cheney sign) - "Merry Christmas"!!

I suspect that there would be a good market for a well designed vinyl "Merry Christmas" sign. I'd put one on my house.

38 posted on 12/04/2004 4:44:58 PM PST by jackbill
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To: Bearpause

Kwanzaa, eh?


39 posted on 12/04/2004 5:26:36 PM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist ")
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To: yonif

I am giving scalpels to some of my best friends for Christmas, so they can dissect the issue a bit better and perhaps see the difference between wanting to destroy Christianity and feeling it is not fair to promote one religion over others in taxpayer-funded venues.


40 posted on 12/04/2004 5:31:09 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Max Combined

LOL - Great tagline.


41 posted on 12/04/2004 5:32:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: Liz
I absolutely refuse to say "Happy Holidays" or "Holiday Tree" or any of the other nonsense the left has tried to shame us into saying in the name of Tolerance.

I'm not Jewish, but if a Jewish friend wishes me "Happy Hannukah" (is that proper spelling?) I don't interpret it as a curse. I don't know any Muslim people, but I wouldn't flip out if I were wished "Happy Ramadan" either.

Likewise, "Merry Christmas" does not equate to "Convert or Die."

42 posted on 12/04/2004 5:33:25 PM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: yonif

A Merry Christmas to all, and to all happy holidays wishers- Good Night, Get lost and good riddance!!!!!!!


43 posted on 12/04/2004 5:41:00 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (If you were still in the womb, would you trust your life to Specter the defector?????)
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To: little jeremiah

"Funny thing is, I hate Christmas."

I think what you're trying to say is that you hate the commercialized crud they try to substitute for Christmas. I, too, hate the decorations and such, especially when they go up before Thanksgiving. I don't particularly like the tinny caroles in malls. I love them when my kids sing them, however. My son was picking his way through a Christmas song book this morning, playing them on his electronic keyboard. I liked that! I bet you would have, too, even though his playing wasn't perfect.


44 posted on 12/04/2004 5:46:46 PM PST by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF (Ret.))
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To: Old Student

Actually, I am looking for a book of Christmas carols so I can sing them to the old people I play for. Not much time left!


45 posted on 12/04/2004 5:51:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: little jeremiah

"Actually, I am looking for a book of Christmas carols so I can sing them to the old people I play for. Not much time left!"

I often find such things in thrift shops, if that helps any. If you talk to the people there, they might even save such and call you. Of course, it might be too late for this year. Worth a try, anyway.

Might try the library, as well. Even if they are in the reference section, you could xerox the ones you want.


46 posted on 12/04/2004 6:12:11 PM PST by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF (Ret.))
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To: Old Student

Monday I'm heading for the library and used book stores!


47 posted on 12/04/2004 6:18:32 PM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: yonif
I've never gotten the whole "Happy holidays" shiite. It's obvious the "holidays" referred to are Christmas and Hannukah. If anything, it's offensive to (educated) Jews by displaying a fundamental ignorance of their religion. Our holidays are in the FALL and SPRING. Hannukah is horribly unimportant compared to Rosh Hashana, Yom Kippur, Sukkot, Simchat Torah, and Pesach.
48 posted on 12/04/2004 6:22:32 PM PST by ChicagoHebrew (Hell exists, it is real. It's a quiet green meadow populated entirely by Arab goat herders.)
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To: yonif

Merry Christmas and a Happy Feast of the Circumcision


49 posted on 12/04/2004 6:56:38 PM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed. Pray for our own souls to receive the grace of a happy)
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To: Aetius
Good; its a nauseating phrase considering why it is use.

Not really.

I just visited my friendly Middle Eastern grocer to get another bottle of the best olive oil I have ever used. I know him well.

When he wished me "Happy Holiday," I was touched.

50 posted on 12/04/2004 7:01:14 PM PST by HIDEK6
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