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How Global Warming Can Lead to a Big Chill
Science - Reuters ^ | Fri Dec 3, 2004 | Anon Science Stringer

Posted on 12/04/2004 3:48:39 PM PST by Pharmboy

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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The Polar Ice Caps have already displaced all the mass they're going to. If they melted, the water levels should remain the same.

There is quite a lot of water locked up on the Greenland land mass and over Antarctica. If all that ice melted, the Oceans would rise quite a bit.

However, all that I see in the article is that a particular brackish marsh was flooded by sea water. This might have happened in a number of ways. Perhaps a river was diverted that kept the sea water out. Perhaps a natural dike was broken by a hurricane. Claiming that this is evidence for the theory mentioned is quite a stretch.

In any case, all this happened long before any oil drilling or SUV's, so how is it relevant to the current debate?

21 posted on 12/04/2004 4:07:05 PM PST by marktwain
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22 posted on 12/04/2004 4:07:34 PM PST by Mike Darancette (RICE '08)
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To: Pharmboy

Yeah, I saw the movie - dopey.


23 posted on 12/04/2004 4:08:44 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: facedown; Diana in Wisconsin
The Polar Ice Caps have already displaced all the mass they're going to.

That's true of the North pole but the argument goes that much of the ice mass in Antarctica is on land.

But higher temperatures will cause the water in the oceans to expand.

24 posted on 12/04/2004 4:09:05 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Archangelsk

The Polar ice cap is already salt ice. It is just frozen salt-water ocean. So this crap about fresh water from the ploar ice cap is crap.

The event 8,200 years ago was from the fresh-water glaciers which still existed in northern Quebec and Baffin Island. They have been gone for 4,000 years now.

Now Greenland is mostly fresh-water glacier but it has been calving off ice-bergs into the North Atlantic for (well, for at least 3.5 million years now so that's not it).

Sorry nothing to see here.


25 posted on 12/04/2004 4:10:24 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The Polar Ice Caps have already displaced all the mass they're going to. If they melted, the water levels should remain the same.

The water levels are not part of the theory. This particular chicken little theory states that fresh water in the ocean disrupts ocean currents like the gulf stream.

26 posted on 12/04/2004 4:11:54 PM PST by palmer ("Oh you heartless gloaters")
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To: Dallas59
Geek alert!


27 posted on 12/04/2004 4:12:56 PM PST by Thebaddog (Dawgs at rest.)
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To: JustDoItAlways; Archangelsk
The Polar ice cap is already salt ice.

No it's not. Most of the salt get removed during the freezing process.

28 posted on 12/04/2004 4:13:22 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Pharmboy
..a popular theory that rising temperatures caused a big melt of polar ice 8,200 years ago...

Wow! Apparently there were SUVs 8,200 years ago!

29 posted on 12/04/2004 4:13:44 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: AndyTheBear

See #s 19 and 20.


30 posted on 12/04/2004 4:14:56 PM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
But higher temperatures will cause the water in the oceans to expand.

Major parts of France, Germany and Western Russia will be under water!

31 posted on 12/04/2004 4:19:29 PM PST by reg45
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To: Pharmboy
Good to know others are realizing the same thing. I thought I might have been going crazy. The photograph in 20 is probably the most stunning confirmation of stone age SUVs yet.
32 posted on 12/04/2004 4:20:24 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: Pharmboy
This would have changed the flow of the balmy Gulf Stream and in just a few years, average temperatures plummeted, ushering in a deep freeze that lasted a century or more, researchers have proposed.

How do they explain the relatively ice-free Atlantic when Vikings sailed to North America 1000 years ago and Greenland was green?

33 posted on 12/04/2004 4:20:31 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (NO PRISONERS!!)
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To: Pharmboy

Actually, I've heard that Global Warming (TM) would actually INCREASE the amount of precip in the polar regions - despite all the snow on the ground, they're basically deserts now - meaning the caps would grow in size.

The argument presented in this article is the same scare tactic used in the eviro-propaganda film "The Day After Tomorrow". It's crap, and shows how desperate the Global Warming Industry has become.


34 posted on 12/04/2004 4:21:55 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: carlr

It's interesting how the statists' theories about global disaster are always changing to fit what is going on in the world. The one constant is that modern technology is always the cause.


35 posted on 12/04/2004 4:26:49 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: facedown
That's true of the North pole but the argument goes that much of the ice mass in Antarctica is on land.

The ice on land will never melt.

And if it does, it may expose some human mummies from thousands of years ago.....

just right for Bill Clinton's dating game.

36 posted on 12/04/2004 4:32:42 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (NO PRISONERS!!)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

Yuck, LOL.


37 posted on 12/04/2004 4:43:34 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Thanks for explaining, in simple terms, the accretion process. :-)


38 posted on 12/04/2004 5:10:08 PM PST by Archangelsk (Plain, simple soldier. Nothing more, nothing less.)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

Exactly! Just how would a 2 degree increase of temperatures at the south pole do ANYTHING? The average temp is 70 below zero. Also, as everyone knows, water EXPANDS when frozen, and contracts when melted. It doesn't matter that it's over land (SP) or a big chunk (NP) The MASS stays the same. If anything, if it were even theoretically possible to melt the entire polar ice caps, the sea level would fall. But not by much even then. Don't believe me? Take the volume of the south pole ice cap and divide it into the entire oceanic volume.


39 posted on 12/04/2004 5:14:39 PM PST by boop (Testing the tagline feature!)
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To: Pharmboy

Wait, you mean Nature has processes that have remained unaffected by Human beings for the last 10,000 years?


Nah, I don't buy it...


40 posted on 12/04/2004 5:16:18 PM PST by jcb8199
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