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1 posted on 12/05/2004 10:01:46 AM PST by SmithL
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"How can children not be allowed to sing in a public park?'' Vargas fumed."

That's just the way socialism works. Your "freedoms" are defined by the state, I mean community. If what you want to do isn't on the list of approved freedoms, too bad.

29 posted on 12/05/2004 10:48:21 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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Apparently, Mary McCue and MJM Management Group are San Francisco's BIG BROTHER. Even photography must have a permit! What nonsense:

http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=001pHT


Joe Hearst Photo.net Patron, dec 18, 2001; 07:34 p.m.
Mr. Hearst:

I am writing to you on behalf of the Mayor as the Liaison to District 6 in his Office of Neighborhood Services. I am sorry to hear of your inconvenience the night of December 16th. Yerba Buena Gardens, although public property, is privately managed by KTB Realty and Mr. Leon is employed by this management company. Much like any public park or public space in the City, all professional photo shoots must secure a permit or permission before commencing; this includes photography classes. KTB Realty welcomes any group to come take photos at Yerba Buena Gardens, but they do require notice ahead of time, this allows the management company to see that the needs of other visitors to the gardens are not overlooked while the photo group is using the grounds.

According to Mary McCue of KTB Realty, special arrangements can be made for photography classes. If you would like more information, you can contact her at 247-6500.

If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to contact me.

Sincerely,

Lauren Do Liaison to District 6 Mayor's Office of Neighborhood Services 1 Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett Drive, room 160 San Francisco, CA 94102 phone: 415-554-6182 fax: 415-554-6474 email: lauren.do@sfgov.org

31 posted on 12/05/2004 10:52:57 AM PST by Enlightiator
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What other city has that policy?

Sounds like one of the city's $120K/year bureaucrats trying to justify her job.

San Francisco: More people on the public payroll per capita than any other city in the country..

33 posted on 12/05/2004 11:08:13 AM PST by muleskinner
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As if we needed any further reminder of why SanFagcisco is one of Satan's open playgrounds.....


35 posted on 12/05/2004 11:46:36 AM PST by TheBattman (Islam (and liberals)- the cult of Satan)
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"Parents and bystanders were soon on the line to the mayor's office to complain."

Uhhh ... don't forget that this is the same mayor that began issuing gay marriage licenses in complete violation of state law.

I think the Christian parents -- however rare they might be in San Francisco -- will not get much sympathy from Mayor Newsome.

39 posted on 12/05/2004 12:16:37 PM PST by tom h
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I wouldn't let them stop me and my kids from singing. We'd just politely say okay, no problem and walk down the street singing our hearts out.


41 posted on 12/05/2004 12:43:11 PM PST by pray4liberty (http://www.tldm.org)
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We don't want this to happen, of course, but if a terrorist dirty bomb ever detonates in a U.S. city, this depraved city and Las Vegas would be the terrorists first choice. San Francisco should form its own little country.


42 posted on 12/05/2004 12:47:35 PM PST by doug from upland (Vietnam Vets: FINALLY -- welcome home, heroes)
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"How can children not be allowed to sing in a public park?'' Vargas fumed.

All they had to do was sing the carols in Spanish and no one would have dared to say anything. ;)

43 posted on 12/05/2004 12:49:58 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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That whole liability issue was just a smokescreen being used to attack religious people!How stupid can one get to believe that, because any person there could sue for any lameheaded reason."San Fransissyco",another American city that trashes tradition.


44 posted on 12/05/2004 1:18:34 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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If they had only said they were there to entertain the homeless out of compassion nothing would have happened.

Remember, in San Francsico only the motivation counts not the action itself. For example, Food Not Bombs has never been rousted for any of their stunts.


45 posted on 12/05/2004 1:19:39 PM PST by atomic_dog
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I would bet money that the city would welcome a few perverse holiday songs from the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.


49 posted on 12/05/2004 1:34:01 PM PST by madprof98
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Personally, I think the line has been crossed. Time to water the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants and patriots. Yet we stand back calmly and rant and rave and watch them rewrite history, and destroy what few rights we have left and expect to win in a system loaded with activist commie judges. Sorry folks. It won't work.
Time for civil disobedience...at the very least.

Our Founders are rolling in their graves.


50 posted on 12/05/2004 1:35:25 PM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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In any case, why would a bunch of kids want to sing in a park where the sidewalks are covered with human feces? I can't imagine Union Square in S.F. being much of a "holiday spirit" kind of place under any circumstances.


51 posted on 12/05/2004 2:42:18 PM PST by Dont Mention the War (W2: Coming January 20, 2005! Be There!)
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In S.F., public parks are for crack whores and homos in the bushes. There is no place for children, especially Christian (yecch) children!


56 posted on 12/05/2004 5:46:11 PM PST by montag813
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In that whacked out city, I am amazed that there are two dozen kids that have even heard of Christmas.

They could have run around naked and done perverted acts, and all would have been fine.


57 posted on 12/05/2004 5:52:22 PM PST by AlexW
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Too bad they weren't just pervert bums sleeping in the bushes, as then they would have been given the keys to the City.
60 posted on 12/05/2004 6:41:42 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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