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We Shall Overcome (Bush GOP partisans come out from hiding in Hollywood and Malibu.)
The American Prowler ^ | 12/6/2004 | Ben Stein

Posted on 12/05/2004 11:45:21 PM PST by nickcarraway

The man at the Christmas tree tent in Malibu kept winking at me and nodding when no one else was looking. I smiled and kept looking at the trees. (In Malibu, we Jews have Christmas trees.) Finally, he motioned to me to come over to is table. He cupped his hand over his mouth and took my hand. "We won," he said. "We won."

I knew exactly what he meant. "You can talk about it," I said. "This is America."

"Yes, but it's also Malibu and I don't want people yelling at me."

A few minutes later, I was grabbing a shopping cart at How's Market in the Trancas section of Malibu when a sweet faced middle aged woman approached me carefully. Then she saw a young couple nearby and turned away. Moments later, she ran into me at the egg cooler, looked around to make sure there was no one looking or listening and said. "I love what you say about politics on TV. You're so brave. I'm on your side. There are some of us here but we keep our mouths shut."

"You don't need to," I said. "The election's over. We won."

"Yes, but it's not over out here. Can you believe they just had Michael Moore at the new Malibu bookstore and they've never invited you and how long have you been out here?"

"Twenty-four years off and on," I said.

"Well, anyway, when I see you and I smile at you, you'll know what it's all about. Go Bush," she whispered and headed for the fresh fish.

Earlier in the day when I had been doing some looping at a studio on Radford Drive in Studio City for a movie in which I have a part ("Son of the Mask" if you must know ), a man on a forklift came by and winked at me. "Keep giving 'em hell," he said softly. "There are more of us here than you think. Bush rules."

This is the way it is here. We meet in smoky places. We give the high sign, we nod knowingly. We are like members of the Maquis in Occupied France. Or early Christians emerging from the catacombs in Caligula's Rome. We are the GOP in Hollywood, and on the West Side of L.A. The culture here is so dominantly left-wing, PC, vegan, hate-America that many of us feel we have to behave as if we were underground.

At a self-help meeting where men and women confess to drug use, betrayals, thefts, homicides with cars, at a break, a woman stealthily came up to me last Saturday and motioned me into a corner outside the room in Malibu. "I want to tell you there are some of us who agree with you. We have to keep it quiet because we want to get our kids into the right schools, but we're there. We're there. And there are more of us every day." Then she scuttled off into the night. Slamming crack can be spoken of with a smile, but not voting GOP. That could be dangerous.

But it's changing.

At an intersection on Sunset Strip, in West Hollywood, a young man in a truck, wearing two earrings and closely cropped hair, gave me the V for victory sign as I walked by him. "We're here," he said. "You can't tell, but we're here. Keep up the talk for Bush."

Some idea of just why people whisper comes from another encounter this week among a group of Hollywood types in a hip night spot. I was saying how much I love my self program. "I'm a Republican, but I learn from Democrats," I said. "I'm a Jew, but I learn from Gentiles. I'm sort of famous but the meetings are where I feel safe."

"Hmmm," said a man who had recently been the star of a sitcom but who had seen his whole life crumble under the weight of some truly horrific family violence. "Republican Jew. Republican Jew. Republican Jew who's famous. Who lives in Beverly Hills. Republican Jew who has more stuff than I have. I don't like it."

"It's a free country," I shrugged.

"Maybe," he said. "Maybe."

This is one of the worst little recent examples of how people here feel about Republicans (and Republican Jews, who simply blow their brains out, to use an old hippie phrase ). But rants, screaming about how we're trying to control women's bodies, draft their sons out of their BMW's and send them to war, scowls and frowns at Morton's, hysterical calls from the network when I appeared on TV backing Right to Life -- these are real. Feeling like outsiders, feeling as if we're going to get our cars keyed if we have Bush stickers on them, getting trash thrown on our yard for having up a Bush sign -- these are real. Getting denied screenplay credits because I worked for Nixon, those are totally real.

Yet, we're here, meeting in smoky places, greeting and giving the secret sign in the fog out by Zuma Beach, more of us every day. And in the words of the Civil Rights song I used to sing when I marched for voting rights in Cambridge, Maryland, "We are not afraid. Deep in my heart, I do believe, we shall overcome some day." Even in Los Angeles, even in Malibu, even in Hollywood. Tremble, Barbra, tremble. We are right outside your gates, with our truth. We are not afraid and we shall overcome.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: benstein; hollywoodright; jewishrepublicans; republicans
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1 posted on 12/05/2004 11:45:21 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway; hilaryrhymeswithrich; BurbankKarl
Stein rewlz!

2 posted on 12/05/2004 11:48:11 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: nickcarraway

ping


3 posted on 12/05/2004 11:54:05 PM PST by jan in Colorado
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To: nickcarraway
(In Malibu, we Jews have Christmas trees.)

LOL Ben. It's a hanukkah bush.

4 posted on 12/05/2004 11:54:55 PM PST by Drango (Those who advocate robbing (taxing) Peter to pay Paul...will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: nickcarraway
It's kind of funny that America has two national treasures who are both named Stein, or is it Steyn.....

L

5 posted on 12/05/2004 11:56:49 PM PST by Lurker (Beware of the man who only has one gun. He most likely knows how to use it.)
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To: Lurker

One is Ben Stein, the author of this article. The other is Mark Steyn, who is Canadian, I think.

By the way what is up with Steyn? His website is on hiatus - I hope all is ok with him and his family.


6 posted on 12/05/2004 11:58:52 PM PST by HitmanLV (HitmanNY has a brand new Blog!! Please Visit! - http://www.goldust.com/weblog -)
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To: nickcarraway

He's a human being. A mensch.


7 posted on 12/05/2004 11:59:53 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.)
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To: nickcarraway; Rightfootforward

Trancas, Malibu, Zuma Beach were once home. It was crazed back then too, but not so ferociously. Maybe it was a mistake for so many of the denizens to get clean and sober. They were mellower when stoned. And they didn't vote then either.


8 posted on 12/06/2004 12:01:54 AM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: nickcarraway; All

"[A] man who had recently been the star of a sitcom but who had seen his whole life crumble under the weight of some truly horrific family violence."

Classic gossip column "blind" item. Ok folks, who is this?


9 posted on 12/06/2004 12:03:38 AM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: HitmanNY
So do I.

L

10 posted on 12/06/2004 12:03:45 AM PST by Lurker (Beware of the man who only has one gun. He most likely knows how to use it.)
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Tremble, Barbra, tremble. We are right outside your gates

There you go, Ben. Right on!

11 posted on 12/06/2004 12:03:48 AM PST by GretchenM (Because the wicked never stop, the righteous must work even harder.)
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To: nickcarraway; Howlin; Timesink; Utah Girl; hosepipe; backhoe; FITZ; Happy2BMe; ...

BUMP


12 posted on 12/06/2004 12:05:17 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (Lord, place the steel of the Holy Spirit in my spine and the love of the Holy Ghost in my heart.)
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To: nickcarraway

We are here Ben...I personally make it my mission to give Hollyweird indigestion and unabashedly I might add...Ran into a guy brave enough to wear a U.S.S Reagan hat, at the West-Hollywood Trader Joe's. I approached him and his girlfriend, while they were checking out, and asked him if he wore the hat in homage or as a vet, he apprehensively said "the latter."...Not knowing if I was friend or foe, I quickly reassured him, friend. He was pleased and I told him they also have a U.S.S George H. Bush hat and that he could find it at NewsMax, at which he said, "oh no, you can't wear that around here." I replied, "yes you can, I got your back."


13 posted on 12/06/2004 12:06:38 AM PST by Outraged (specter (n.) - 1. A ghostly apparition; a phantom.)
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To: nickcarraway
Yeah, it's not "cool" to be a conservative out here in LA LA land. But myself? I wouldn't and couldn't have it any other way.

Some of you who have never been out here wouldn't believe how bad and selfish some of the people here are.

They know absolutely nothing of our ways, our truth, and our political ideology, yet they think they are 100% right, and that they know it all.

14 posted on 12/06/2004 12:13:33 AM PST by Bullish
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To: nickcarraway; AFPhys; prairiebreeze; onyx; Texasforever; CyberAnt; BigSkyFreeper; Tamsey; ...
Yet, we're here, meeting in smoky places, greeting and giving the secret sign in the fog out by Zuma Beach, more of us every day

Ben's gonna send the libs even further into a parania state not knowing where the pubbies are hiding .. LOL!

15 posted on 12/06/2004 12:15:31 AM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: Mo1

parania = paranoia


16 posted on 12/06/2004 12:17:18 AM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: jocon307

Robert Blake?


17 posted on 12/06/2004 12:19:12 AM PST by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: Mo1


Thanks for the ping.
I enjoyed this article.
I like Ben.


18 posted on 12/06/2004 12:19:17 AM PST by onyx
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To: nickcarraway

GREAT


19 posted on 12/06/2004 12:26:45 AM PST by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

Robert Blake?

On a sitcom?


20 posted on 12/06/2004 12:30:42 AM PST by Gigantor (Socialism in America: the WOD is what originally made it possible.)
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

"Robert Blake?"

Don't think that is right, Baretta isn't recent and wasn't a sitcom.

Can't be Ritter either, #1 he's deceased, #2 no violence involved.

ARGH! Things like this make me crazy. WHO IS IT!?!?!?!


21 posted on 12/06/2004 12:31:07 AM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: Bullish

"Some of you who have never been out here wouldn't believe how bad and selfish some of the people here are."

I went out with a guy for a while, a Puerto Rican guy from Brooklyn, NY. He had lived in California for a while. He told me the people there were the worst, most two-faced people he'd ever encountered. And then he said "And remember who I am, these are Jehovah's witnesses I'm talking about!"

LOL, but sad, really.


22 posted on 12/06/2004 12:33:59 AM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: Mo1

GOODY! :-)


23 posted on 12/06/2004 12:39:41 AM PST by nopardons
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To: jocon307
a man who had recently been the star of a sitcom but who had seen his whole life crumble under the weight of some truly horrific family violence

The key word is "recently" been the star of a sitcom

The only one I can think if is Kelsey Grammer from Frasier .. but I believe he is a republican

24 posted on 12/06/2004 12:40:24 AM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: Outraged

25 posted on 12/06/2004 12:43:21 AM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: nickcarraway

Ben Stein on conservatives emerging out of Left Coast closets. Its more shocking and more outrageous than a gay stepping out of the closet. What can you say, the holidays are a barrel of fun - especially around Hollywood and Malibu! (laughing)


26 posted on 12/06/2004 12:44:07 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: nickcarraway
It is bad in South Florida, too. You conservatives on the left coast need to be more vocal. When you speak out, you'll lead by example and realize there are MORE of you than you think! :)

RD

27 posted on 12/06/2004 2:28:07 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: nickcarraway; dennisw; SJackson; Salem; F15Eagle; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; devolve
Overcoming in Hollywood - ping.

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Yet, we're here, meeting in smoky places, greeting and giving the secret sign in the fog out by Zuma Beach, more of us every day. And in the words of the Civil Rights song I used to sing when I marched for voting rights in Cambridge, Maryland, "We are not afraid. Deep in my heart, I do believe, we shall overcome some day." Even in Los Angeles, even in Malibu, even in Hollywood. Tremble, Barbra, tremble. We are right outside your gates, with our truth. We are not afraid and we shall overcome.

28 posted on 12/06/2004 2:36:23 AM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: nickcarraway

Yeah baby!!! America, F yeah!


29 posted on 12/06/2004 2:39:08 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: Happy2BMe
Tremble, Barbra, tremble.

Hold me, Bill!



30 posted on 12/06/2004 2:46:16 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! )
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To: nickcarraway
This is the way it is here. We meet in smoky places. We give the high sign, we nod knowingly. We are like members of the Maquis in Occupied France. Or early Christians emerging from the catacombs in Caligula's Rome. We are the GOP in Hollywood, and on the West Side of L.A. The culture here is so dominantly left-wing, PC, vegan, hate-America that many of us feel we have to behave as if we were underground.

You gotta love Ben Stein. He just painted the exact feeling that many of us have in "occupied terrority."

It's sad, too. When we have rats around and they are the minority, they feel perfectly at ease around us in knowing they won't be abused. Yet when the tables are turned, conservatives know they will be, and are, persecuted for bringing their views out in public.

Not exactly the image of tolerance and inclusion the left would have us believe.

31 posted on 12/06/2004 2:48:01 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Yuckenstein!


32 posted on 12/06/2004 2:55:59 AM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: Caipirabob
It's sad, too. When we have rats around and they are the minority, they feel perfectly at ease around us in knowing they won't be abused. Yet when the tables are turned, conservatives know they will be, and are, persecuted for bringing their views out in public.

Well I have certainly experienced this in the Detroit area this year. I was stunned when one of my students told me she and her mom planned to steal Bush signs out of people's yards on Halloween. I sing in a professional choral group and the director and producer are both very liberal but the majority of the singers and our young female accompanist are conservative (sort of a turn around from earlier years).

33 posted on 12/06/2004 3:14:13 AM PST by Diva
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To: Diva

bump


34 posted on 12/06/2004 3:29:42 AM PST by GOP_Proud ("Get your hands off him!" (President George W. Bush))
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To: Mo1

Kelsey didn't have any horrific family violence, he has more money than Ben Stein and he is not hiding his Republican views. I don't think it's Frasier.


35 posted on 12/06/2004 3:35:04 AM PST by Quinotto (On matters of style,swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Quinotto

Bill Cosby?


36 posted on 12/06/2004 3:57:59 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: nickcarraway

bump


37 posted on 12/06/2004 4:03:52 AM PST by lilmsdangrus
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To: Miss Marple

>Bill Cosby?

Dollars to doughnuts, you are correct, Miss M.


38 posted on 12/06/2004 4:48:01 AM PST by Darnright
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
One of the absolute Best!...conservative, evangelical churches busy getting the Word and Good News to LA.....is right there in Santa Monica!!!!
39 posted on 12/06/2004 5:10:26 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Mo1

Paranoid liberals. Sounds a lot like a terrorist to me.


40 posted on 12/06/2004 5:28:03 AM PST by prairiebreeze (It's my right to publically celebrate Christmas and state my faith in Christ. At least for now.....)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

bump for later comments


41 posted on 12/06/2004 5:30:25 AM PST by Armedanddangerous (I'm not sorry)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

At the same time our military is courageously taking the fight to America's enemies abroad these Americans on the Left Coast are cowering before our leftist enemies here at home. Shameful! They are scared to be yelled at? You gotta be kidding me! Let the Truth be your sword! If now is not the time to fight back, when?


42 posted on 12/06/2004 5:42:42 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: nickcarraway

Thanks for posting this! I adore Ben Stein.


43 posted on 12/06/2004 5:43:01 AM PST by alwaysconservative (Republican revolutionaries are going to be the means of salvation of this nation.)
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To: SendShaqtoIraq
Robert Blake?

Good guess, but Barretta wasn't a sitcom.

44 posted on 12/06/2004 5:51:55 AM PST by alnick
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To: alnick; Miss Marple

If you read carefully, it seems clear that whoever this is, they did not like Ben Stein, did not like Jewish Republicans, did not like a rich (richer than himself, he said) Jewish Republican who lives in Beverly Hills, and pretty much made threatening noises at Ben for saying to him that this is a free country. The guy said, "Maybe.....maybe."

The Bill Cosby guess does not seem to fit this character. (Miss M)

As for Blake...true, he wasn't in a sitcom, but isn't he also in jail? Stein was talking to the guy face to face. Am I missing something? The guesses seem to overlook some key aspect, every time.

Not that I have a guess...for one thing, I don't watch sitcoms.

Sure am glad all these people in CA voted for Bush, though, because it gave him a lot more heft in his popular vote total.


45 posted on 12/06/2004 6:35:45 AM PST by txrangerette
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To: nickcarraway
Geez, it sounds like being a Republican in Malibu is worse than being a woman under the Taliban. Maybe they should wear burkas.
46 posted on 12/06/2004 6:50:15 AM PST by Niks
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To: nickcarraway

"Hollywood probably has more closet conservatives than closet homosexuals." - Charlton Heston


47 posted on 12/06/2004 6:53:09 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Quinotto
Kelsey didn't have any horrific family violence

I thought he had a brother or sister that was murdered .. and then there was that kooky women he was once married to.

I agree .. I don't think it's him though ...

48 posted on 12/06/2004 7:11:40 AM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Thanks for the ping!


49 posted on 12/06/2004 8:23:31 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: My2Cents

No president deserves to have an aircraft carrier named after him more than George H. W. Bush. He is the only former president who was also a naval aviator.


50 posted on 12/06/2004 8:28:09 AM PST by reg45
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