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Fetal Frontier (suggestion that women show even token concern for aborted fetus outrages feminists)
Village Voice ^ | December 7th, 2004 10:45 AM | Sharon Lerner

Posted on 12/07/2004 1:04:39 PM PST by dead

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To: MississippiMan

Those numbers were from a 2003 report by the Alan Guttmacher Institute based on data collected in 1988 MM. The AGI is associated with Planned Parenthood so if there is a bias its pro abort. Pretty amazing the first time you see them.


41 posted on 12/07/2004 5:47:06 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: dead

Not one pro-life person was interviewed or quoted in this piece. Not one pro-life argument was advanced. Yet it's a chilling indictment of the pro-abortion movement. They are a cold-hearted lot.


42 posted on 12/07/2004 6:35:22 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Click on my name to see what readers have said about my Christian novels!)
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To: dead; Coleus

Ping!


43 posted on 12/07/2004 7:00:08 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Click on my name to see what readers have said about my Christian novels!)
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To: jwalsh07

Man oh man, how did a significant percentage of our society come to be such a heinous collection of monsters? I have my theory on how, of course, but it can still boggle the mind to just think about it; there are millions of people in this country for whom the most important issue in their life is preserving the ability (I refuse to call it a right) to murder innocent babies. So tragic.

MM


44 posted on 12/07/2004 7:00:46 PM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: escapefromboston
Ya you have a free choice, go become an Unitarian and leave the Church alone

Pro choice and Catholic shouldn't even be used in the same sentence or any other religion for that matter. I am not Catholic but my beliefs do not allow murder in any form either.

45 posted on 12/07/2004 7:17:49 PM PST by Allosaurs_r_us (Idaho Carnivores for Conservatism)
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later


46 posted on 12/07/2004 7:18:42 PM PST by Annie03
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To: backhoe
once a woman sees what is really in her womb, it ceases to be a "tissue mass" and becomes... a baby

Exactly! Now if we could just get a judge to agree...

47 posted on 12/07/2004 7:22:32 PM PST by Allosaurs_r_us (Idaho Carnivores for Conservatism)
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To: MississippiMan

It's hardly the most important issue in my life. In fact I don't even think about it unless reading opinion pieces. However, I am not religious, therefore, I do not believe that there is a God, or that the life of a fetus possesses divine rights.

I believe that you are 100% entitled to believe in God and believe that abortions are murder. Equally, I am entitled to believe that abortions are not murder. In the realm of political action, I am against legislating about this issue. It should never have happened anymore than legislating who can have chemotherapy.

That's my point of view. It never fails to surprise me that people on FR call me a Nazi or murderer. That is an egregious accusation. Many of my relatives were murdered by the Nazis. When you equate me with a Nazi--someone who systematically put people in gas chambers to face a conscious death--you concede the high ground. And sound about as compassionate to me as a Nazi.


48 posted on 12/07/2004 7:25:33 PM PST by The Westerner
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To: dead
Let's see if we can clear this up: "Fetal alive, unborn children Frontier (suggestion that women show even token concern for aborted fetus little children outrages feminists)" ... There, that's more truthful, less obfuscatory.
49 posted on 12/07/2004 7:28:37 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
anesthesia should be respectfully offered as an option

Definition 1: A drug, administered for medical or surgical purposes, that induces partial or total loss of sensation and may be topical, local, regional, or general, depending on the method of administration and area of the body affected.

If anesthesia is being administrated to a body explain to me how they can justify the fetus as a non-entity or mass of cells. If you have a body can you not prove murder. It is a mainstay of a prosecuters case in a homicide.

Definition 2 : loss of sensation and usually of consciousness without loss of vital functions artificially produced by the administration of one or more agents that block the passage of pain impulses along nerve pathways to the brain.

Same argument, if the anesthesia is being administered to an entity with a brain their whole Pro Choice argument should be thrown out with yesterday's bath water.

Any lawyers in the crowd?

50 posted on 12/07/2004 7:52:49 PM PST by Allosaurs_r_us (Idaho Carnivores for Conservatism)
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To: The Westerner

Well, I've certainly never compared you to a Nazi. And yeah, in the USA you're entitled to believe what you want. I don't get it, though. A baby is an innocent life, completely and utterly defenseless. If you don't think that life should be protected, then I don't see why you would support legislation that criminalizes murder of an adult or rape or anything else. It's your right, but it puts us on two irreconcilable planes.

Over and out.

MM


51 posted on 12/07/2004 8:14:48 PM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: diane in IL
There is a Pro-life website that has a link to video footage of an ultrasound of a fetus as it is being aborted. I still lose sleep over that video.

Better to lose sleep now than sit in Hell for all eternity having to watch it, which I suspect is going to be the judgment for all pro-aborts! Hallelujah that you are saved!

52 posted on 12/07/2004 9:21:22 PM PST by pray4liberty (http://www.tldm.org)
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To: dead
grapple honestly with the moral significance of ending potential life.
It is not potential, it IS life.

who don't have access to safe abortion onto the table."
100% death is hardly "safe".

"We've done a terrible job of articulating our beliefs in terms of values."
No, I fully understand their beliefs in terms of "values".

Good post!,
GE
53 posted on 12/08/2004 5:11:15 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: dead

Though she sees abortion as a loss, she believes it can be justified by a woman's reasons for wanting to end the pregnancy.

So can a man/woman who kills their husband/wife be justified because they wanted to end their marriage?


54 posted on 12/08/2004 6:24:54 AM PST by weshess (I will stop hunting when the animals agree to quit jumping in front of my gun to commit suicide)
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