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U. NE Omaha celebrates Kwanza ("It's important to get away from fat white man bringing gifts")
unogateway ^ | Dec 7 04 | U Neb Omaha

Posted on 12/07/2004 7:07:51 PM PST by churchillbuff

During the holiday season, many people are so busy rushing around worrying about buying gifts, getting the best deal and running over anyone in their path that they tend to forget what they are celebrating.

On Thursday, UNO hosted its ninth annual Kwanzaa luncheon in the Milo Bail Student Center Ballroom.

Keynote speaker Saidi J. Liwaru stressed the importance of Kwanzaa as an African American holiday as well as a Pan-African holiday. Kwanzaa is a time for knowing one's roots while bettering one's culture.

Liwaru is the host of the Real Solutions television program. He said that the timing of Kwanzaa -Dec. 26 through Jan. 1- is the perfect time to connect and look what is going on around in one's environment.

It is important, "to get away from the belief of a fat white man bringing gifts to poor kids in the ghetto," Liwaru said. "Parents are lying to their kids. We're thinking of gifts. We're thinking of snow and ho-ho-ho, but (we need to get away from that). When you're celebrating Kwanzaa, you start to think of buying this child a gift that would better represent black culture."

A relatively young holiday, Kwanzaa was created in 1966 while in of the midst of African liberation and is celebrated by millions throughout the world. Its purpose is to reaffirm the community vision and values of African culture while bettering the lives of Africans. It begins with Africans in America, expanding into the global African community.

Kwanzaa comes from the philosophy of Kawaida, a cultural nationalist philosophy that argues that Africans must bring forth the best of their culture to be models of human excellence, enriching and expanding the lives of their people.

One of the misconceptions of Kwanzaa is that people must chose between Kwanzaa, Christmas and Chanukah during the season. It is very possible to celebrate Kwanzaa and Christmas at the same time. Much like one would celebrate St. Patrick's Day -an Irish cultural holiday- during Lent, one can celebrate Kwanzaa and Christmas.

Other people can celebrate it as embracing another culture. While it is focused on African and African American enrichment, Kwanzaa can benefit all people by showcasing its culture to those who do not know much about it. Just as there are large celebrations for Cinco de Mayo with many non-Mexicans, Kwanzaa is open to be appreciated by other cultures as well. There are rituals to Kwanzaa that are not meant for an audience, but rather its designated celebrants.

The holiday has a message for all peoples, but it is deeply rooted in African culture, speaking to the world.

A line from www.TheOfficialKwanzaaWebsite.com said, "Any particular message that is good for a particular people, it is human in its content and ethical in its grounding, speaks not just to that people, it speaks to the world."

The term Kwanzaa comes from the phrase, "matunda ya kwanza" which means "first fruits."

On the seventh day of Kwanzaa, -Jan. 1- a time of reflection is had. It is period of self-reflection and a recommitment to the highest cultural values in a special way. Following in the tradition, it is then time to ask and answer, soberly and humbly the three Kawaida questions: Who am I; am I really who I say I am; and am I all I ought to be?

Kwanzaa is filled with a great deal of symbolism and deep cultural connection that can only be had by seeking more information.

Liwaru is the father of Sharif Z. Liwaru, the Cultural Awareness Adviser for the Student Organizations and Leadership Programs Office. Sharif gave the opening remarks for the lunch. Jeff Epting was the host of the event. Epting is the Social Action Chair of Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity Inc.

After the keynote address, a somewhat culturally diverse audience of nearly 50 people enjoyed a meal of fried chicken, greens, cornbread, pumpkin pie and macaroni and cheese.

Following the meal, a candle lighting ceremony took place representative of Kwanzaa's seven principles: unity; self-determination; collective work and responsibility; cooperative economics; purpose; creativity; and faith.

Sharif Liwaru closed the event that brought unity amongst the African American community and allowed those of non-Africans decent a chance to learn a different culture.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: christmas; grinchstolechristmas; kwanza; kwanzaa; pcbarf; racism; scrooge; separatism; socialism

1 posted on 12/07/2004 7:07:53 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
fat white man bringing gifts"

I resemble that remark.

2 posted on 12/07/2004 7:13:30 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: churchillbuff

What's your favorite Kwanzaa Carol?


3 posted on 12/07/2004 7:13:57 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: churchillbuff

Wasn't Kwanzaa invented by some guy while he was in jail?


4 posted on 12/07/2004 7:14:34 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: churchillbuff

Technically speaking Santa Claus is "Little Red Man", and far from being a "white man", he's actually an hallucinogenic mushroom (amanita muscaria) found in Northern Europe and Asia.


5 posted on 12/07/2004 7:16:35 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: churchillbuff

I guess the BARF! alert is implied...


6 posted on 12/07/2004 7:17:02 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: churchillbuff
OK, I'll tell you what. The fat white guy hasn't brought me my pony yet, so the first African dude walks in the door with it, I'm there.

Christmas shouldn't be materialistic, it should be about belief. And I believe if I don't get my pony this year the streets will run red with blood.

7 posted on 12/07/2004 7:17:26 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Echo Talon

A blast from the past.


Kwanzaa: holiday from the FBI

Culture/Society Miscellaneous Keywords: FORMAL PRESIDENTIAL PROCLAMATION
Source: Townhall.com
Published: January 1, 2001 Author: Ann Coulter
Posted on 01/01/2001 16:34:36 PST by Rocco
Earlier this week, President Clinton issued a formal White House proclamation celebrating the first day of Kwanzaa. His announcement began with some claptrap about preserving "what we value of our past," and Kwanzaa being a "wonderful example" with its "focus on the values that have sustained African-Americans through the centuries."

Except for the small historical detail that Kwanzaa was invented in 1966 amidst the madness of the multicultural '60s by a black radical stooge of the FBI, Ron Karenga, a.k.a. Dr. Maulana Karenga. Karenga was a founder of United Slaves, a violent nationalist rival to the Black Panthers and a dupe of the FBI.

In what was probably ultimately a foolish gamble, during the violent '60s, the FBI encouraged the most offensive black nationalist organizations in order both to discredit and split the left. The more preposterous the organization, the better. Karenga's United Slaves was perfect. Despite public perception blending the black activists of the '60s, the Black Panthers did not hate whites and did not seek armed revolution. That was the trope of Karenga's United Slaves. In the annals of the American '60s, Karenga was the Father Gapon, stooge of the czarist police.

Whether Karenga was a willing dupe, or just a dupe, remains unclear. Interestingly though, in an 1995 interview with Ethnic NewsWatch, Karenga matter-of-factly explained that the forces out to get O.J. Simpson for the "framed" murder of two whites included: "the FBI, the CIA, the State Department, Interpol, the Chicago Police Department" and so on. (He further noted that "the evidence was not strong enough to prohibit or eliminate unreasonable doubt" -- an interesting standard of proof.) Karenga should know about FBI infiltration.

Also, in the category of the-gentleman-doth-protest-too-much, back in the '70s, Nigerian newspapers were claiming that many American black radicals were CIA operatives. Karenga leapt in to denounce the idea publicly, saying, "Africans must stop generalizing about the loyalties and motives of Afro-Americans, including the widespread suspicion of black Americans being CIA agents."

There is no question now that the FBI fueled the bloody rivalry between the Panthers and United Slaves, leading in one outburst to the shooting of Panther Al "Bunchy" Carter on the UCLA campus by Karenga's United Slaves. Karenga himself served time, a useful stepping-stone for his current position as a black studies professor at California State University at Long Beach.

Kwanzaa itself is a lunatic blend of schmaltzy '60s rhetoric, black racism and Marxism. Indeed, the seven "principles" of Kwanzaa praise collectivism in every possible arena of life -- economics, work, personality, even litter removal ("Kuumba: Everyone should strive to improve the community and make it more beautiful.") It takes a village to raise a police snitch.

Asked to distinguish Kawaida, the philosophy underlying Kwanzaa, from "classical Marxism" in the 1995 interview, Karenga basically said that under Kawaida, we also hate whites. While taking the "best of" -- I'm not making this up -- "early Chinese and Cuban socialism," Kawaida practitioners believe one's racial identity "determines life conditions, life-chances and self-understanding." There's a happy Horatio Alger story for you.

Coincidentally, the seven principles of Kwanzaa are the very same seven principles of the Symbionese Liberation Army, another charming invention of the Least-Great Generation. In 1974, Patricia Hearst, kidnap victim-cum-SLA revolutionary, posed next to the banner of her alleged captors, a seven-headed cobra. Each snake head stood for one of the SLA's revolutionary principles (and this sounds like Saturday Night Live's send-up of the second presidential debate in which George Bush rattled off an endless series of Nigerian names): Umojo, Kujichagulia, Ujima, Ujamaa, Nia, Kuumba and Imani -- precisely the seven "principles" of Kwanzaa.

With his Kwanzaa greetings, President Clinton is saluting the intellectual sibling of the Symbionese Liberation Army, killer of housewives and police, and the founder of United Slaves, who were such lunatics that they shot Panthers for not being sufficiently violent -- all with the FBI as their covert ally. It's as if David Duke invented a holiday called "Anglica," and the president of the United States issued a presidential proclamation honoring the synthetic holiday. People might well stand up and take notice if that happened.

Liberals have become so mesmerized by the hegemonic multicultural nonsense that they have forgotten the real history -- the violence, the Marxism, the insanity. Most absurdly, for leftists anyway, is that they have forgotten the FBI's tacit encouragement of this murderous black nationalist cult founded by the father of Kwanzaa. United Slaves were proto-fascists, walking around in dashikis, blowing away Black Panthers and adopting invented "African" names. (That was a big help to the black community: How many boys named "Jamal" currently sit on death row?)

Now the "holiday" concocted by these violent stormtrooper stooges of the FBI is a "tradition," a celebration of the "value of our past." This is not a tradition. This is a '60s psychosis grafted onto black community, while the Christian leaders at the forefront of the civil rights movement are washed out of the picture.




"Coincidentally, the seven principles of Kwanzaa are the very same seven principles of the Symbionese Liberation Army, another charming invention of the Least-Great Generation."
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8 posted on 12/07/2004 7:17:33 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: churchillbuff

9 posted on 12/07/2004 7:18:05 PM PST by Alouette ("Who is for the LORD, come with me!" -- Mattisyahu ben Yohanon, father of Judah Maccabee)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

You beat me to PC Barf alert.


10 posted on 12/07/2004 7:18:47 PM PST by rdl6989 (4 More Years! 4 More Years!)
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To: churchillbuff
A relatively young holiday, Kwanzaa was created in 1966 ...

by Ronald Karenga, a radical, who was later sentenced to prison for torturing a woman. One of the purposes of Kwanzaa was to culturally separate blacks from whites.

Today he's a college professor at Berkley(?).

11 posted on 12/07/2004 7:19:44 PM PST by rllngrk33 (The fourth estate is now the propaganda wing of the Democratic Party.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
"I guess the BARF! alert is implied..."

Or as our Founders stated, "self evident"...
12 posted on 12/07/2004 7:21:01 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: churchillbuff

there are plenty of countries where there is no fat white man bringing gifts. go there.


13 posted on 12/07/2004 7:23:08 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: Texas Eagle

hmm interesting..


14 posted on 12/07/2004 7:30:28 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: churchillbuff
Gad....the Goatway hasn't changed one bloody bit from when I was an undergrad at UNO back in the 80s. And for their information, St. Patrick's Day is a Catholic feast day, NOT an "Irish cultural celebration"!

Liberal wannabee-mainstream media morons!

15 posted on 12/07/2004 7:30:34 PM PST by Bombardier (That's the life of an outlaw. Tough, ain't it?)
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To: Graybeard58

"fat white man bringing gifts".

Sounds like Michael Moore, except for the bringing gifts part.


16 posted on 12/07/2004 7:30:49 PM PST by texasmountainman (proud father of a U.S. Marine)
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To: churchillbuff

Bush was correct in pointing out that this new high holy day is a very recent invention. There are few holidays we can actually attribute to one man's vision. Kwanzaa is such a holiday – coined by Ron Karenga in 1966.

Who was Ron Karenga?

Glad you asked.

He is a convicted felon – sentenced five years after inventing Kwanzaa for torturing two black women by whipping them with electrical cords and beating them with a karate baton after stripping them naked. He placed in the mouth of one of the victims a hot soldering iron, also scarring her face with the device. He put one of her big toes in a vise, and detergent and running water in both of their mouths.

But that wasn't the beginning of the bizarre and violent behavior of Karenga, the patron saint of Kwanzaa – not by a long shot.

Just about the time he was dreaming up this new holiday, he was also inventing a new political movement on the campus of UCLA. That movement was called "black cultural nationalism." His group was called United Slaves. And it was defined mainly by violent confrontations with the Black Panthers at UCLA. Two of his followers shot dead two members of the Panthers in 1969.

But no sooner did Karenga get out of prison on the torture charges in 1975 than all was forgotten about his criminal and violent past. He was proclaimed Saint Karenga. Four years later, he was running the Black Studies Department at California State University in Long Beach.

How did he get that job in academia with his record?

Glad you asked again.

Paul Mulshine, who has done an admirable job of chronicling Karenga's history for FrontPagemag.com, has a theory.

Karenga had a jailhouse conversion.

No, he did not become a born-again Christian. He did not renounce violence. He did not even repudiate his past. But he did become a Marxist.

And, while becoming a Christian might have disqualified him for a role in the world of the modern U.S. university, a conversion to Marxism was perceived as a sign of rehabilitation. The one-time psychopath had seen the light.

In conclusion, I hope this little cultural and history lesson helps you see the light – about Kwanzaa. It's being taught to your kids in your government schools. It's become a commercial bonanza in black communities through the United States. And, now, even the president of the United States is praising it as a legitimate holiday.


17 posted on 12/07/2004 7:33:08 PM PST by Radioactive
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To: churchillbuff
...a gift that would better represent black culture... And what, exactly, would that be? Hmmmmmm?
18 posted on 12/07/2004 7:33:39 PM PST by BeerSwillr (Profanity free since 2003-12-17 20:41:45)
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To: churchillbuff
Keynote speaker Saidi J. Liwaru stressed the importance of Kwanzaa as an African American holiday as well as a Pan-African holiday.

Kwanzaa is a nice holiday, but it's not African. Nor is it celebrated in Africa.

19 posted on 12/07/2004 7:35:27 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: churchillbuff
Keynote speaker Saidi J. Liwaru stressed the importance of Kwanzaa as an African American holiday as well as a Pan-African holiday. Kwanzaa is a time for knowing one's roots while bettering one's culture.

LOL.

In 1979 I managed to get myself in deep do-do with the USAF by asking the wrong question.

I had to attend the mandatory training for "African American" month, then "Latino / Spanish Month", then "blah blah Month", etc.

All of these courses were taught by minority race instructors.

I asked the question, "when do we celebrate Irish Month? When do we celebrate Italian Month? When do we celebrate English Month?"

Man, the do-do hit the fan major league.

Kwanaza.

Right.

LVM

20 posted on 12/07/2004 7:36:54 PM PST by LasVegasMac (If it ain't smoked, it ain't worth puttin' on the table!)
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To: churchillbuff
"Kwanzaa comes from the philosophy of Kawaida, a cultural nationalist philosophy that argues that Africans must bring forth the best of their culture to be models of human excellence, enriching and expanding the lives of their people."

I approve of that whole heartedly. But where are the support systems to bring it about? 1966 was a long time ago and I don't see any. All I see is destruction in Africa and a tendency to socialism of the kind that lines the pockets of people like Robert Mugabe. Skin color doesn't matter for much of anything. If you give bad men a sanctuary, they will own your house.

21 posted on 12/07/2004 7:42:17 PM PST by BobS
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To: churchillbuff
What do you call the black students at the University of Nebraska?

The football team.

22 posted on 12/07/2004 7:43:54 PM PST by Clemenza (Gabba Gabba Hey!)
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To: churchillbuff
After the keynote address, a somewhat culturally diverse audience of nearly 50 people enjoyed a meal of fried chicken, greens, cornbread, pumpkin pie and macaroni and cheese.

This is a hoax! Everybody know they'd be eating sweetpotato pie! Seriously - how many Blacks are the at UNO (aside from the football and basketball team), and how many Blacks are there in Omaha?

23 posted on 12/07/2004 7:46:15 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Fraud is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party)
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To: Radioactive
Our President has his hands tied with this phoney thing. It is the dnc machine that has created this beast.

Until the gop, or whomever, "rastles" control of our Academia and Main News Outlets, we Americans will have this phoney baloney hate-filled and DIVISIVE scar called Kwanza.

Spread the TRUTH. Teach your children the TRUTH.

24 posted on 12/07/2004 7:48:54 PM PST by jungleboy
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To: texasmountainman

"fat white man bringing gifts".

Sounds like Michael Moore, except for the bringing gifts part.


Unless you regard toe-jam and under-man-breast perspiration as gifts...

Sorry. That was even a bit much to type, never mind visualize...:(


25 posted on 12/07/2004 7:59:25 PM PST by rlmorel
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To: Radioactive

Very enlightening and I am incensed because they celebrate this claptrap and teach it to my seven year old! Back I barge into my daughter's grade school tomorrow with a print out of this article and your remarks to show the principal. I fought him last month on Ramadan, looks like I've got a new fight. As for me, I'll take the fat white man and Jesus Christ anyday.


26 posted on 12/07/2004 8:08:57 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal)
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To: Texas Eagle
What's your favorite Kwanzaa Carol?

(sung to the tune of 'Jingle Bells')
"...Drive-by shootin 'ho's, in my '80 Chevrolet. T'ru da 'hood we goes, blastin' all da way...."

27 posted on 12/07/2004 8:12:56 PM PST by solitas (Mystic G4, 10.3.6)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Omaha is 400,000 people, of which 13 percent are black. UNO is about 20 percent black.


28 posted on 12/07/2004 8:23:47 PM PST by Bombardier (That's the life of an outlaw. Tough, ain't it?)
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To: Radioactive
I read somewhere that all the official records of Karenga's trial on the torture charges and his subsequent incarceration have mysteriously disappeared. All that remains are the newspaper accounts. Isn't it funny how that happens?
29 posted on 12/07/2004 8:33:48 PM PST by beef ("Blessed are the geeks, for they shall inherit the earth.")
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To: churchillbuff
"to get away from the belief of a fat white man bringing gifts to poor kids in the ghetto,"

What if that fat white man is the mailman bringing the welfare check?

30 posted on 12/07/2004 8:43:17 PM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Bombardier
UNO is about 20 percent black."""

And all they got was 50 people to turn out to this Kwanzaa celebration - and not all of them were black? Clearly, Kwanzaa hasn't caught on with most blacks -- Christmas is just fine with them, thank you.

31 posted on 12/07/2004 8:52:26 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

With all of the misery and violence the black community has visited on it's own people and the city here in Omaha, this silly exercise in some invented back to Africa holiday is just the type of style over substance, changing the subject event we have come to expect from this crowd.


32 posted on 12/07/2004 9:28:51 PM PST by hatfieldmccoy (Satan has a new name and it is Islam)
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To: Texas Eagle; muawiyah
David Horowitz exposed Mr. Karenga-one of the biggest charlatans since Marcus Garvey- for the liar that he is in one of his earlier essay collections, Hating Whitey.

Debunking the myths established by him, along with those propagated by other notorious frauds, like Rigoberto Menchu, have earned him the respect of many former doubters within the conservative movement.

33 posted on 12/07/2004 10:04:20 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: churchillbuff
The term Kwanzaa comes from the phrase, "matunda ya kwanza" which means "first fruits."

Is this where the term "fruits & nuts" comes from?

BTW, how many blacks live in Nebraska? I would expect they don't have many. So I doubt there is a big uproar demanding Kwanza celebrations.

34 posted on 12/07/2004 10:12:35 PM PST by jamaly
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To: jamaly
BTW, how many blacks live in Nebraska?
I don;t know... how many guys are on the Nebraska football team? I think that's your answer... LOL
35 posted on 12/07/2004 10:15:24 PM PST by mysto
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To: jamaly
The answer is 4%.

If you'd stayed awake in history you would have remembered that Kansas as well as Nebraska were targets of potential Souv'rn extensions of slavery.

Soon-to-be Confederate enemies were already bringing African-Americans to the territories.

People who forget the Jayhawk Wars are doomed to repeat them!

36 posted on 12/08/2004 4:46:01 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: churchillbuff

I'm sure Nebraska has a real problem with those ghettos. ><


37 posted on 12/08/2004 4:58:36 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: churchillbuff

I guess giving a soldering iron would be considered bad taste.


38 posted on 12/08/2004 5:00:08 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: jungleboy

>Spread the TRUTH. Teach your children the TRUTH.<

Whatever happened to the concept of the twelve days of Christmas? The retail monolith has pushed and pushed Advent, supposedly a time of reflection, out of the way and we modern Americans are deluged with HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!! as soon as Halloween can be finished.

I would love to see more cultural celebration of an extended Christmas, among Christians. This Kwanzaa thing is just one more impediment.


39 posted on 12/08/2004 5:06:33 AM PST by Darnright
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To: churchillbuff
fat white man bringing gifts

Strange sentiment from folks that gave Gore 90% of their vote in 2000.

40 posted on 12/08/2004 5:10:26 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (I'm here because I'm not all there.)
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To: churchillbuff

I thought Santa Clause was supposed to be a "jolly old ELF".
The reverse racism going on is just - dispicable.


41 posted on 12/08/2004 5:18:21 AM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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To: Bombardier
Omaha is 400,000 people, of which 13 percent are black. UNO is about 20 percent black.

The 20% sounded a little high, so I checked the UNO web site. Its actually 5.3% Black. The 20% figure is for minorities and foreign students combined.

42 posted on 12/08/2004 9:39:52 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Fraud is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party)
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To: jamaly
The term Kwanzaa comes from the phrase, "matunda ya kwanza" which means "first fruits."

I thought it meant, "No Worries."

43 posted on 12/08/2004 9:41:35 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Thanks for the correction. When I went there, the school's nicknames were "University of No Opportunity" (contrasted with the Lincoln campus as the "University of No Learning" and "Steroid State"), "West Dodge High" and the "University of North Omaha" (due to the minority population). It always seemed as though there were a large percentage of black students there, but maybe my perception was different than someone else's because the high school I attended was mostly white (I don't know how many black kids we had going there, but the number of black kids I had in my classes I could count on the fingers of one hand). When I started at UNO, the minority population seemed huge, and honestly, I would have sworn it was about 20 percent. Glad to see someone is keeping me straight. Thanks! :-)


44 posted on 12/08/2004 9:49:24 AM PST by Bombardier (That's the life of an outlaw. Tough, ain't it?)
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To: Bombardier
Glad to see someone is keeping me straight. Thanks!

No problem. I just thought the number seemed pretty high. I also didn't think the population of Omaha was 13% black, but it is. It interesting how perception dosen't always match up with reality.

When I went to High School in NJ in the mid-70s, the Blacks were about 20% of the student body. However, I only had one Black in all my classes (and they were certainly not Honor Classes). You would only see the Blacks as you walked between classes - they were all lining the hallways (sitting down), listening to their Kenner "Close-N-Plays." You would have to step over these people to make your way down the hall - hoping not to step on them and start a racial riot.

45 posted on 12/08/2004 10:38:47 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Fraud is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party)
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To: churchillbuff; All
For the Night Before Kwanza go here ...

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=5914

46 posted on 12/15/2004 3:10:29 PM PST by aculeus
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