Posted on 12/08/2004 9:26:15 AM PST by CHARLITE
Relations ... the very word gives one the positive mindset of working as a team to accomplish established goals. Throughout the past 228 years, Americans have fought through their own differences of opinion to achieve great successes for this nation. What myself, and tens of millions of others, are interested in knowing is your interpretation of the term relation.
Webster's defines it as "an aspect or quality (as resemblance) that connects two or more things or parts as being or belonging or working together."
This column wasn't created to accuse Muslim organizations of having ties to terrorist networks. That issue has already been addressed elsewhere, so there's no need to address it here. The purpose of this particular column is to ask precise questions of Islamic advocacy groups, and obtain precise, honest answers.
It appears that the kindness and generosity of the American people has been sadly mistaken for weakness and ignorance. Thankfully, several Middle East scholars and apostates from Islam have educated us well about true Islam, including verses contained in the Koran, and on the outdated Shari'ah Legal system.
While I certainly don't believe that all Muslims are bad people, I do believe that there is an agenda in the Muslim world to somehow attempt to become masters of the universe. Whether through violence or through manipulation of governments, Islamic radicals are attempting to rule the roost. Since we're labeled Islamophobic, intolerant, ignorant and jingoistic for not swallowing Islamic propaganda, perhaps you can address and answer for all of us the following:
Please explain separately Koran verses 4:34, 4:89, 5:17, 5:51, 8:12, 9:5 and 9:29.
As Americans learn of beheadings, car bombings, rapes, kidnappings and eventual assassinations of innocent men and women being committed by members of the Islamic faith, how would you go about explaining to your fellow Muslims that their behavior is a "hijacking" of Islam?
What would you say to the Janjaweed in Darfur, Sudan, as they hack innocent men, women and children with machetes, rape, loot, and murder innocent Africans?
(www.hrw.org/campaigns/darfur)
What explanation could you possibly provide regarding stories like that of a 16-year-old girl Iranian girl, who was charged with committing "acts incompatible with chastity," when, in fact, she was a rape victim? She was not afforded a lawyer and was forced to defend herself. She told the judge that he shouldn't punish the victims, but punish the rapists. She was hanged in public, not for the adultery, but according to the Islamic judge, for "having a sharp tongue."
(www.rabble.ca/babble/ultimatebb.php? ubb=get_topic&f=24&t=000459)
Why are Islamic clerics preaching hate for the West, and condoning terrorism?
(www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004180470,00.html,
www.congregationalist.org/Archivesold/Dec_01/Muslim.html)
Since mosques are houses of Islamic worship, is it appropriate to raise funds for terrorist activities inside them?
(www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37973)
Islam, the religion of peace, has members that live and work in the United States, living comfortable lives with respectable occupations. With that in mind, is it appropriate for them to be living the American dream while calling for an uprising (intifada) against the United States government?
(http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=10615)
Why have American citizens had civil suits brought against them for speaking out against the activities of Muslims?
(www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12898, www.religioustolerance.org/news_03dec.htm)
While members of all other faiths are respectful of the uniforms they wear while at work or in the athletic arena, and of American law, why do Muslims expect special accommodations to be made for the wearing of Islamic headscarves, and go as far as filing suit in order to cover their faces in a drivers' license picture?
(http://news.ibn.net/newsgen.asp?url=apeflain)
While I’m aware that constitutional legal barriers haven't been crossed, I'm also aware that Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists are prohibited from promoting their faith in public schools. So, why are Muslim guest speakers gaining entry into American public schools to discuss Islam with our children, when church and state are separate in America?
(www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16094)
Since Muslim organizations seem to defend every Muslim that's arrested, claiming profiling, racism, religious bias and unwarranted arrest, are Americans supposed to believe that all Muslims are merely a group of peaceful immigrants, and that every Muslim suspect arrested is completely innocent and simply a target of racism and intolerance, even when they've admitted their crimes?
(http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=11929, http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=11185, http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38019)
This issue is of substantial concern. Is it true that a prominent Islamic figure made this statement: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth." Was this actually said? You've got to be kidding me. The Koran the highest authority in America? Islam the only accepted religion on Earth? Excuse me while my head stops spinning. I couldn't believe this one.
(www.nationalreview.com/frum/diary040803.asp)
Welcome to the United States of America. We speak English here. We're a free nation. We work hard, drink beer, take care of our family and friends, and play hard.
Although the religious majority is overwhelmingly Christian, we're tolerant of all races and religions. You’re welcome to practice your faith here, but you can forget about dominating anything.
You can stay, as long as you respect our laws and our citizens. Understand that it's not our responsibility to adapt to your culture. It's your responsibility to adapt to ours. You're in our house, so you follow the house rules.
he preservation of American culture, American borders, the English language and the United States Constitution remain at the forefront of the American Patriot agenda.
Don't make the mistake of underestimating the backbone, the willingness or the means at our disposal to do what's necessary in protecting this to-do list.
Since you seem to be the voice for Muslims in America, please relay this to your following, for the sake of peace.
D.C. Watson resides in Ohio.
I don't approve of it.
And your point is?
Babylon never had Jesus...we are close to losing Him...by our own choice imo
The point is we need more immigrants from muslim countries (not my point though).
In case anyone else was curious but didn't want to get their hands dirty with even an electronic copy of their filthy book...
From the Koran...
"4.34": Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
"4.89": They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
"5.17": Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely, Allah -- He is the Messiah, son of Marium. Say: Who then could control anything as against Allah when He wished to destroy the Messiah son of Marium and his mother and all those on the earth? And Allah's is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and what is between them; He creates what He pleases; and Allah has power over all things,
"5.51": O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
"8.12": When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
"9.5": So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
"9.29": Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
What a load of pig crap. (Ok - that part wasn't from the koran, it was my commentary on the koran.)
Oh yes. If you think that's something, we had a Muslim woman in southern Maine hospital that said she couldn't wear the hospital gowns. Something they have made us commoners wear for many years.
So, the Medical Association in Maine called in someone to design new gowns for the patients, all at the demands of the Muslim woman.
Burqhas for everyone are next.
Driven to the extreme (ref. Taliban regime) women cannot work as doctors, on the other hand, women cannot be treated by male doctors. So they sat at home rotting from all kinds of gynecological afflictions. That's what they have in store for us. The medical gowns is just the first blow is half the battle.
Isn't this awful? For years, the hospitals put those gowns on us and we couldn't do anything about it.
Along comes a Muslim woman, saying she refuses to wear the gown, and you can tell by the picture what 'they' came up with for the Islam women to wear.
As for the rest of us...guess what?!
The general public has no clue. Not unless there is a Mosque's close to them, they have no clue.
I believe that they are working from the inside of America out. They have their feet firmly planted in the United States, as we can see by the map.
But the government can freeze the situation, at least, or allow it to unfold through letting in immigrants from the muslim countries in increasing numbers.
Trojan Horse PING.
The comparison is a little lacking. The Trojans did not know the horse contained the enemy soldiers. We do and allow the horse in. The Homer books would read a little different today had the Trojans had the priviledge to know. Their gods were agains them. Our G-d gives us all kinds of clues. Only we choose not to heed.
I'm not sure if our government can stop it now. The muslim pregnant women fly over to Detroit, Michigan. They stay with family or friends until due date.
They go into the Detroit hospital, have their babies and fly back home. All at the taxpayers expense.
The Mayor of Detroit was interviewed on TV, and even he doesn't know how to stop that.
It may be too late.
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This is such a threat but most just don't get it.
Is it because the new-born automatically becomes a US citizen? So you will have to change the law to close this loophole. The woman is not a citizen, she gave birth to a baby and left. This is too obvious. The baby at least should not get the citizenship automatically. This is infringement on some rights. But, hey, this is a war. And during the wartime some rules that work during peacetime but become detrimental during the wartime should be suspended pending the improvement of the situation. There maybe other ways. The only thing that is missing is the political will. What is required to get that will? Another 911 or complete subjugation of Americans by these extraterrestrials?
It's Islamic religious bigotry... gender and religious apartheid.
They are moving in and taking over. And if the Michigan lawmakers do not know how to stop it, what can be done?
The baby's must be a US Citizen, because they are born here. But the whole bill is paid for by the taxpayers. I wish I could find more on this.
I listened to the Mayor of Detroit being interviewed about this last summer. I never saw anything in print.
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