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Unitarians Confirm Our Forecast that Group Sex Will be Next
http://massnews.com/ http://www.uupa.net/polyprinciples.html ^ | 12/8/2004 | editor massnews.com

Posted on 12/08/2004 10:14:16 AM PST by gidget7

Sen. Kennedy Says Opponents of “Gay Marriage” Are Bigots Sen. Edward Kennedy has told A.P. that opponents of “gay marriage” are bigots. The news service reported last week: “Meanwhile, Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy criticized supporters of a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage, saying that would be a civil rights setback. “Kennedy said bigotry should not be written into the federal constitution, and constitutional amendments should be about expanding rights and liberties.”

Unitarians Confirm Our Forecast that Group Sex Will be Next The Unitarian Church is now welcoming those who believe in group relationships including the practice of “romantic love.” When we forecast last year that group sex, both heterosexual and homosexual, would quickly follow “gay marriage,” we were ridiculed. The full text of the Unitarian statement is linked here.

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Polyamory and the Unitarian Universalist Association Principles and Purposes The Principles of the Unitarian Universalist Association

We, the member congregations of the Unitarian Universalist Association, covenant to affirm and promote

The inherent worth and dignity of every person; Justice, equity and compassion in human relations; These two principles are a cornerstone of Polyamory Awareness. The organization defines polyamory as the philosophy and practice of loving or relating intimately to more than one other person at a time with honesty and integrity. We advocate for any form of relationship or family structure – whether monogamous or multi-partner – which is characterized by free and responsible choice, mutual consent of all involved, and sincere adherence to personal philosophical values. We believe that honesty, integrity, and consent in personal relationships are essential to the affirmation of the inherent worth and dignity of one’s partners. We believe that the affirmation of a partner’s inherent worth and dignity necessitates respect for that partner’s choices in his/her own relationships, including freedom to feel and openly express love for others, including romantic love. We further believe that justice, equity and compassion in human relations are promoted by the presence of honesty, integrity, and consent in personal relationships. A word about choice: “Unitarians and Universalists have always been heretics. We are heretics because we want to choose our faith, not because we desire to be rebellious. ‘Heresy’ in Greek means ‘choice.’ ”

These words of Mark W. Harris appear on the UUA website, on the UU origins page. Choice of faith is at the core of UUism; our faith has meaning to us because we come to it through free choice. Choice in relationships is no less important.

Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations; Spiritual growth requires integration of one’s relationships and one’s religion, and Polyamory Awareness within UUism promotes this integration for polyamorous UUs. The closet can be a difficult place to live, and leaving a part of oneself behind when crossing the threshold of one’s church can interfere significantly with one’s spiritual search. Polyamorists need to bring our entire beings, including our relationships, into our religious homes, in order to pursue spiritual growth. The statement, “You’re welcome as individuals, just don’t talk about it,” is meant to convey acceptance of the person. However, it feels to many polyamorous people like we’re being ushered back into the closet again. It feels as if the person saying it is embarrassed by us, ashamed of us – and we doubt our full acceptance in such circumstances.

Polyamory Awareness promotes acceptance of one another by bringing familiarity with polyamory to UU congregations, because acceptance of one another begins with familiarity.

A free and responsible search for truth and meaning; Polyamory Awareness is built on the tradition of the free and responsible search for truth and meaning. Healthy relationships, whether monogamous or multi-partner, require thoughtful, informed consideration. Non-traditional relationships have few role models and little societal support, and therefore require even more careful consideration. Polyamory Awareness encourages us to study and search the life choices we have made or are contemplating. It encourages us to wrestle with difficult relationship questions, and to examine carefully which relationship style best suits our own and our partners’ needs. The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large; Unitarian Universalists for Polyamory Awareness is committed to the democratic process. We began by working through the democratic process, and we will continue to do so. We have adopted bylaws, including membership rules, leadership structure, and election procedures, and will work within the bylaws of the UUA in seeking recognition. We affirm the right of conscience for members to choose monogamy for themselves and to visibly bring monogamous relationships into their churches; and we assert the right of conscience for ourselves to choose polyamory and to visibly bring polyamorous relationships into our churches. The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all; Polyamory Awareness affirms this goal. We believe that world community, peace, liberty, and justice are all supported and strengthened by increasing education and familiarity with non-traditional life choices, and by opening the closet doors. Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part. “Relationship is the primary microcosm of the interdependent web. We should give it more energy” (Rev. Ken Collier, minister of the UU Church of Palo Alto, CA, quoted in World, March/April 1999, p. 17). Personal relationships, whether monogamous or multi-partner, must be integrated into our spirituality, as part of the interdependent web. Polyamory Awareness promotes this integration for polyamorous individuals, who have few other resources available to them for linking their lifestyle with their spirituality. The living tradition which we share draws from many sources:

Direct experience of that transcending mystery and wonder, affirmed in all cultures, which moves us to a renewal of the spirit and an openness to the forces which create and uphold life; Many people of all relationship styles experience transcending mystery and wonder in their personal relationships. We are inspired to celebrate the mystery of other people's spirits. Our UU principles encourage us to use all of our faculties to explore and develop our own understanding of spiritual truth, without declaring any areas of inquiry or experience off-limits. Likewise, polyamorous UUs affirm that each person should be free to celebrate any aspect of love for another created by that transcending mystery and wonder, consistent with one’s preexisting commitment to, and loving relationship with, a spouse or committed partner and with full attention to the inherent worth and dignity of all involved, including respect for one’s own personal boundaries. Renewal of the spirit unfolds in personal struggle as well. Faced with disapproval from family, friends, or community, individuals whose relationships are non-traditional may at some point find ourselves agonizing, “What is wrong with me?” When we finally struggle through to self-acceptance, it is often a powerful experience of transcending mystery and wonder, an experience which opens us to life forces and shapes a growing spiritual path.

The Religious Declaration on Sexual Morality, Justice, and Healing is a consensus statement created by theologians and ethicists from a broad range of religious traditions and currently endorsed by over two thousand religious leaders across the United States, including denominational leaders, seminary presidents, deans, and faculty members, and clergy from more than twenty-five religious traditions. The text of The Declaration and a list of endorsers is available at www.religionproject.org. Many UU ministers have endorsed this document, including UUA past president Rev. John Buehrens. The Religious Declaration states: “Faith communities must therefore be truth seeking, courageous, and just. We call for: Theological reflection that integrates the wisdom of excluded, often silenced peoples . . . .”

Direct experience of transcending mystery and wonder is by its very nature private and personal, and we must guard against the tendency to second-guess the spiritual experiences of fellow UUs. Polyamory Awareness seeks to affirm:

that polyamorous UUs can and do experience transcending mystery, wonder, and renewal of spirit; that we have long been a silenced people and are working to end this silence; and that we wish to offer our experiences for theological reflection. Words and deeds of prophetic women and men which challenge us to confront powers and structures of evil with justice, compassion, and the transforming power of love; Both monogamy and polyamory are consistent with justice, compassion, and the transforming power of love. UUs have long known that education is a powerful tool for confronting evil; it is also a powerful tool for decision-making. Polyamory Awareness seeks to provide education about a little-known relationship structure. For individuals involved in or considering multi-partner relationships, this education may improve their ability to make good decisions that meet the needs of themselves and their partners. For monogamous individuals, Polyamory Awareness may increase their understanding of polyamorous members of the UU community. Justice and compassion require that individuals have access to the information they need. Wisdom from the world's religions which inspires us in our ethical and spiritual life; Jewish and Christian teachings which call us to respond to God's love by loving our neighbors as ourselves; Many polyamorists struggle with Biblical references that appear, when taken out of context, to forbid polyamory. We value Jewish and Christian teachings, but we decline to adopt centuries-old specific rules stripped of their historical and cultural context. Rather, we draw from the overall message of these teachings and those of other world’s religions, which emphasize honesty, integrity, and respect in relationships and forbid the violation of the rights of others. Drawing from these sources, we derive our ethics of relationships from our individual spiritual paths and our free and responsible search for truth and meaning. Humanist teachings which counsel us to heed the guidance of reason and the results of science, and warn us against idolatries of the mind and spirit. Few sociological studies of consensual multi-partner relationships have been done. Non-clinical samples found few differences from monogamous relationships. Polyamory Awareness, by increasing visibility, will encourage more scientific studies to test these findings. Additionally, science tells us that the closet is not healthy. Polyamory Awareness, by opening the closet doors, will increase the health of polyamorous members of the UU community. Monogamy freely chosen is healthy. Compulsory monogamy for every person is idolatry. Visibility of an ethical alternative lifts monogamy out of idolatry into free choice.

Spiritual teachings of earth-centered traditions which celebrate the sacred circle of life and instruct us to live in harmony with the rhythms of nature. Both monogamy and polyamory are consistent with this source, when we listen to the harmonies of our individual spiritual paths. The Purposes of the Unitarian Universalist Association

The Unitarian Universalist Association shall devote its resources to and exercise its corporate powers for religious, educational and humanitarian purposes. The primary purpose of the Association is to serve the needs of its member congregations, organize new congregations, extend and strengthen Unitarian Universalist institutions and implement its principles. Unitarian Universalists for Polyamory Awareness has as its Mission to serve the Unitarian Universalist Association and the community of polyamorous people within and outside the UUA by providing support, promoting education, and encouraging spiritual wholeness regarding polyamory. Membership in the Polyamory Awareness organization is open to individuals who affirm sympathy with the Principles and Purposes of the UUA and with the purposes of the organization. The Association declares and affirms its special responsibility, and that of its member societies and organizations, to promote the full participation of persons in all of its and their activities and in the full range of human endeavor without regard to race, color, sex, disability, affectional or sexual orientation, age, or national origin and without requiring adherence to any particular interpretation of religion or to any particular religious belief or creed. Unitarian Universalists for Polyamory Awareness affirms the full participation of all persons. Polyamory Awareness promotes the full participation of polyamorous UUs, many of whom have hesitated to participate fully, for fear of consequences of coming out. Closeted people need contact with others in similar situations in order to begin to move toward full participation. This is the reason that a group is needed. Membership in the Polyamory Awareness organization is open, without regard to: race; color; sex; affectional or sexual orientation (including polyamory or the lack thereof); physical disability; national origin; or economic condition, to individual persons who affirm sympathy with the Principles and Purposes of the UUA and with the purposes of UUPA.

Nothing herein shall be deemed to infringe upon the individual freedom of belief which is inherent in the Universalist and Unitarian heritages or to conflict with any statement of purpose, covenant, or bond of union used by any society unless such is used as a creedal test. Polyamory Awareness is consistent with this purpose; members are free to follow whatever spiritual path best serves their needs. Prepared by Jasmine Walston, Vice-President of UUPA, February, 2002; revised April 2003 .

1 posted on 12/08/2004 10:14:17 AM PST by gidget7
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To: gidget7

I went to a Unitarian funeral once. I was never sure who died, who the minister was or when the service was over.


2 posted on 12/08/2004 10:16:19 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: gidget7

This will keep up until the UUs let in the group that believers all UUers should die.


4 posted on 12/08/2004 10:16:48 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

A Unitarian knocked on my door once, but couldn't tell me why he was there...


5 posted on 12/08/2004 10:19:00 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ('Hate' is just a special kind of Love we give to people who suck.)
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To: gidget7

People who are willing to accept everything, don't believe in anything.


6 posted on 12/08/2004 10:19:57 AM PST by SmithL
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To: Semper Paratus
"This will keep up until the UUs let in the group that believers all UUers should die."

In the name of Unity, even the "Death to UUers" are welcome.

When did the law of contradiction get tossed?
7 posted on 12/08/2004 10:21:08 AM PST by j_k_l
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To: gidget7
Sen. Kennedy Says Opponents of “Gay Marriage” Are Bigots

Well, this should guarantee that the Dems pick up a few red states.

8 posted on 12/08/2004 10:21:46 AM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: gidget7

Not certain what the heck you mean.

1) There's currently, and always has been, a lot of group sex going on in the US.

2) It isn't currently illegal so there would be no campaign necessary to make it legal or anything.


9 posted on 12/08/2004 10:22:24 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: j_k_l

My wife is a direct descendant of the founder of Unitarian-Universalism and she considers the religion today as 'hopeless'.


10 posted on 12/08/2004 10:24:08 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: gidget7
Q. What do you get when you cross a Jehovah's Witness with a Unitarian?

A. You get somebody who knocks on your door for no apparent reason.

11 posted on 12/08/2004 10:24:08 AM PST by KarlInOhio (In a just world, Arafat would have died at the end of a rope.)
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To: gidget7
"...Kennedy said...constitutional amendments should be about expanding rights and liberties....”

Well, that would sure explain, for example, his support for the Second Amendment.

12 posted on 12/08/2004 10:24:27 AM PST by Chummy (Thank you God for giving to the USA our President George W. Bush!)
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To: gidget7

Bump


13 posted on 12/08/2004 10:26:29 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: gidget7
“Kennedy said ... constitutional amendments should be about expanding rights and liberties.”

Then I trust Fat Ted is working on repealing the 16th amendment? Right?

14 posted on 12/08/2004 10:26:37 AM PST by KarlInOhio (In a just world, Arafat would have died at the end of a rope.)
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To: Semper Paratus

When truth is abandoned, there is nothing left to beileve in and nihilism results.


16 posted on 12/08/2004 10:26:58 AM PST by j_k_l
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To: gidget7

Since many UU's support Paganism, I'm not surprised.


18 posted on 12/08/2004 10:28:56 AM PST by syriacus (Who wanted Margaret Hassan murdered? What did she know about the oil-for-food scandal?)
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To: j_k_l

Trying to understand a UU is like trying to impose Robert's Rules at a meeting of anarchists.


19 posted on 12/08/2004 10:29:32 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: j_k_l

Is this organization the main Unitarian church or a fringe group?


20 posted on 12/08/2004 10:30:20 AM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie.)
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To: syriacus
Gaia and the Unitarian Universalist
21 posted on 12/08/2004 10:33:00 AM PST by syriacus (Who wanted Margaret Hassan murdered? What did she know about the oil-for-food scandal?)
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To: SmithL

If you don't believe in anything you will fall for everything.


22 posted on 12/08/2004 10:34:53 AM PST by Mark in the Old South (Note to GOP "Deliver or perish" Re: Specter I guess the GOP "chooses" to perish)
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To: gidget7
A word about choice: “Unitarians and Universalists have always been heretics.

From the horse's mouth. That settles it for me.

23 posted on 12/08/2004 10:34:56 AM PST by semaj ("....by their fruit you will know them.")
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To: Semper Paratus
My wife is a direct descendant of the founder of Unitarian-Universalism

Who would that be?
My understanding is that this a merging of 2 "religions": Unitarianism, which originated in Transylvania and Universalism, which originated in America.

24 posted on 12/08/2004 10:36:17 AM PST by mwilli20 (Christmas is NOT about buying gifts!)
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To: gidget7

All of them were probably dead........ya know? a mass burial for the mentally insane........


25 posted on 12/08/2004 10:44:59 AM PST by clearsight
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To: valuesvaluesvalues

The sooner the Aliens come and take them all away the better.


26 posted on 12/08/2004 10:48:10 AM PST by clearsight
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To: Strategerist

It's more evidence that the fight for same sex marriage is the starting point. This "church" stands behind it, and multiple partner marriage.


27 posted on 12/08/2004 10:49:46 AM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: Ciexyz

the main one.


28 posted on 12/08/2004 10:51:06 AM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I went to a Unitarian funeral, too, and there was no one there that was dead, it only looked like it, and there was a woman in a casket but the Lady Universalist pastor said she was looking down from the balconies of heaven, so surely she had not died. Genesis 3:4 "4": And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die.


29 posted on 12/08/2004 10:52:33 AM PST by tessalu
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To: Ciexyz
"Is this organization the main Unitarian church or a fringe group?"

The Unitarian church has fringe groups? Sounds like they are not very united.
30 posted on 12/08/2004 10:53:57 AM PST by j_k_l
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To: mwilli20
Who would that be?

It was Josiah Ballou who put them together in the mid 1800's. He also founded Tufts University.

31 posted on 12/08/2004 10:54:04 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: gidget7

Polygamy and polyamory have been around a lot longer than gay marriage. To say, what's next, group marriage? is like putting the cart before the horse.


32 posted on 12/08/2004 10:54:50 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Strategerist
If marriage is defined any way a minister (of the church or of state) wants to define it, can polygamy be far behind?

David Chambers of the University of Michigan Law School, in an article favoring same-sex marriage, has written:

[W]e should respect the.claims made against the hegemony of the two-person unit.If the law of marriage can be seen as facilitating the opportunities of two people to live an emotional life that they find satisfying - rather than as imposing a view of proper relationships - the law ought to be able to achieve the same for units of more than two..By ceasing to conceive of marriage as a partnership composed of one person of each sex, the state may become more receptive to units of three or more and to units composed of two people of the same sex but who are bound by friendship alone.

34 posted on 12/08/2004 10:55:59 AM PST by syriacus (Who wanted Margaret Hassan murdered? What did she know about the oil-for-food scandal?)
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To: gidget7

I guess that it is safe to assume that Sammi Davis Jr. would have become a Unitarian (he joined LeVay's Church Of Satan for the orgies).

Both LeVay and the Unitarians would appear to serve the same Master.


35 posted on 12/08/2004 10:56:26 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Hear about the Unitarian funeral? All dressed up and nowhere to go ;-)


36 posted on 12/08/2004 10:57:00 AM PST by truthchaser
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To: My2Cents
Hope is, Kennedy and Kerry can be voted out after all that has come to light in MA since they were elected. This site, massnews.com, is one of the best news sources in the NE, very thoroughly researched, and active in the culture fight here in MA. They have worked hard. We give them the highest marks for credibility here, and therefore if we want to be informed, we read that, and not the glaberag.

If an article is posted there, there is a reason, and it's important.
37 posted on 12/08/2004 10:57:50 AM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: gidget7

I'm intrigued.


38 posted on 12/08/2004 10:58:16 AM PST by notigar
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To: Semper Paratus
The anarchist do have a standard logo (the 'A' with a circle around it).

There board of directors met, the logo was proposed, seconded and certified. The meeting was then adjourned by motion form the floor which was then seconded by the chairman.
39 posted on 12/08/2004 10:58:36 AM PST by j_k_l
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To: cjshapi

I told you if you waited long enough your ship would come in ;^)>


40 posted on 12/08/2004 10:58:48 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: weegee

I thought Sammy Davis, Jr., converted to Judaism. I guess he was covering all the bases.


41 posted on 12/08/2004 10:59:53 AM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: tessalu

They are united on one topic "ORGASMS" by any and all means. Group sex not excluded by the way.


42 posted on 12/08/2004 10:59:54 AM PST by clearsight
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs

The Homosexual Agenda is being used by Sex Positive Agenda advocates as a battering ram to society's laws and morals.

If it seems that the "horse is before the cart", it is because a "harmless" Trojan Horse is being gifted to the public.


43 posted on 12/08/2004 11:00:11 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: SmithL
People who are willing to accept everything, don't believe in anything.

Quote of the month. You should use that as your tag line.

44 posted on 12/08/2004 11:03:43 AM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: Junior

MY WHAT?? Oh you said ship.


45 posted on 12/08/2004 11:04:35 AM PST by cjshapi
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To: My2Cents

http://www.churchofsatan.org/aslv.html




LEGEND: ASL was a close friend of Sammy Davis, Jr. and inducted him into the Church of Satan.

REALITY: Sammy Davis, Jr. was invited to accept an honorary membership in the Church of Satan by Michael Aquino. After Davis sent Aquino his acceptance on March 17, 1973, he was presented with the honorary membership on April 13, 1973 by Aquino and Karla LaVey alone. ASL did not meet Davis until August 1973.

SOURCES: Davis letter to Aquino 3/17/73; Church of Satan Priesthood Bulletin 4/30/73; Aquino, COS, Chapter 23; Sammy Davis, Hollywood in a Suitcase (pre-publication text, printed in Daily News, New York, 9/11/80), Karla LaVey.


46 posted on 12/08/2004 11:05:10 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Semper Paratus
It was Josiah Ballou who put them together in the mid 1800's. He also founded Tufts University.

Horace Mann was a Unitarian. Connect the dots.

47 posted on 12/08/2004 11:06:11 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: notigar
Group Sex?

"Yeah Baby, Yeah!!"

48 posted on 12/08/2004 11:06:19 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps.)
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To: clearsight

You're thinking of The Nation of Islam or The Church of the SubGenius (July 5,1999 - X Day - has passed)


49 posted on 12/08/2004 11:07:27 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: truthchaser

Ted Kennedy is a complete idiot and a thoroughgoing traitor to the U.S. constitution. The sad thing is that the people in his district haven't discovered this hidden fact even yet!!!!!!!!


50 posted on 12/08/2004 11:08:25 AM PST by clearsight
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