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Islamic terror based on Qu’ran: ex-CIA official
The Canadian Jewish News ^ | December 9, 2004 | SHELDON KIRSHNER

Posted on 12/08/2004 3:28:15 PM PST by yonif

A former top official of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency paints a menacing picture of the relationship between Islam and terrorism.

“Islamic terrorism is based on Islam as revealed through the Qu’ran,” keynote speaker Bruce Tefft claimed in a panel discussion at the University of Toronto on jihad and global terrorism. The session, held late last month, was sponsored by the Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center and the Speakers Action Group.

Tefft, a founder of the CIA’s counter-terrorism center and now an advisor to the New York Police Department’s intelligence and counter-terrorism divisions, said that without Islam, the long-term strategy of Al Qaeda and its followers make little sense.

Linking Osama bin Laden to the attacks against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon in 2001, Tefft said: “To pretend that Islam has nothing to do with Sept. 11 is to willfully ignore the obvious and to forever misinterpret events.”

In a harsh indictment of Islam – the world’s fastest growing religion and the second-largest faith after Christianity – Tefft said that while there may be moderate Muslims, Islam itself is immoderate.

And, he added, “There is no difference between Islam and Islamic fundamentalism, which is a totalitarian construct.”

According to Tefft, the Qu’ran enjoins Muslims to believe that the whole world should be governed by the principles of Islam, an expansionist religion that has historically grown through conquest.

All infidels are to be converted, enslaved or killed, he said, drawing on the knowledge of Bernard Lewis, a Jewish historian who has written books about Islam and Islamic history.

Tefft, whose career at the CIA spanned 21 years, argued that Islam was a religion of peace and tolerance in its formative phase, but has since grown intolerant of non-Muslims.

Islam cannot be reformed because its teachings, as revealed through the Qu’ran, are regarded as the word of God, and to be a Muslim, a believer must accept the Qu’ran on a literal basis, Tefft said.

He said Islam views Judaism and Christianity as failed religions and itself as the only true religion.

Islamic terrorists are animated by passionate anti-Western convictions, Tefft argued. They blindly sacrifice their lives for the chance of going to paradise and enjoying the charms of 72 virgins.

To them, the United States is the epitome of evil, because its constitution separates church and state.

Tefft said Al Qaeda’s 700-page training manual covers all aspects of terrorism, from surveillance to assassinations, and is drawn from U.S., Russian and Iranian manuals .

“They’ve compiled the best of the best.”

Of the 6,000 or more mosques in North America, 80 per cent are radical in orientation and devoted to spreading an intolerant Wahabi strain of Islam. They are funded by Saudi Arabia, he said.

David Harris, the former head of strategic planning at the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, said that Islamic fundamentalists are hostile to Canada and consider it a “Little Satan.”

He warned that Hezbollah has begun surveying sites in Canada for possible terrorist attacks.

Canada, though, innocently thinks it is immune to such aggression, Harris said.

John Thompson, the president of the MacKenzie Institute, a Canadian research organization, said Al Qaeda has a reservoir of recruits for at least a generation to come.

Tom Kay, the chief of police in Owen Sound and the immediate past president of the Ontario Association of Chiefs of Police, said Canadian law enforcement agencies that combat terrorism are under-funded.

“We face complacency from people in power,” he said, referring to Canadian politicians at all levels.

It is scandalous that more money is not being allocated to counter-terrorism efforts, Kay said.

Leo Adler, the director of national affairs for Friends of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, urged Canada to be more resolute in fighting terrorism.

Rather than operating in a vacuum, Jihadists work with highly honed organizations that supply them with funds, logistical support and intelligence, Adler commented.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; cia; death; genocide; globaljihad; islam; islamists; jihad; koranimals; murderers; muslim; muslims; religionofpeace; terrorism; terrorist; waronterrorism
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1 posted on 12/08/2004 3:28:16 PM PST by yonif
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This is very depressing.


3 posted on 12/08/2004 3:39:41 PM PST by Snapple
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To: yonif
Linking Osama bin Laden to the attacks against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon in 2001, Tefft said: “To pretend that Islam has nothing to do with Sept. 11 is to willfully ignore the obvious and to forever misinterpret events.”

Gee, you would have to either dumb, blind, practicing taquija, or have your Tinfoil Turban wrapped too tight...

5 posted on 12/08/2004 3:50:02 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: yonif
This took remarkable detective work to discern.
7 posted on 12/08/2004 3:56:39 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: yonif

truth!!!


8 posted on 12/08/2004 3:57:35 PM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: yonif
I bought a copy of the Qu'ran in it's english translation and found it a very short book, and very informative about current conflicts involving Islam.

From deliberate mandate to decieve and mislead non-believers(lie to them) and for the brutal violence they inflict on each other, it's a horrible text with no redeeming value to the planet.

9 posted on 12/08/2004 3:57:59 PM PST by blackdog (May Islam meet Tennyson's "Ninth Wave" in my lifetime.)
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To: yonif
Prophet of Doom : Islam's Terrorist Dogma in Muhammad's Own Words

CLICK ON ABOVE IMAGE


The CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS AND THE REMAKING OF WORLD ORDER

CLICK ON ABOVE IMAGE




10 posted on 12/08/2004 3:57:59 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat)
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To: yonif

Islam is a godless pagan communist kult! The so called prophet was a blood thirsty serial murderer


11 posted on 12/08/2004 3:59:59 PM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: yonif
The reason Islam CANNOT be reformed is that it is strictly based on the "holy" Koran, which is the source of Islam's evil, murderous, misogynystic terrorist nature. Islam says that anyone who criticizes Mohammed or the Koran is to be put to death.

ISLAM IS TERROR, MURDER, OPPRESSION AND MISOGYNY. IT CANNOT BE REFORMED!
12 posted on 12/08/2004 4:05:09 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: dennisw

And pediophile and warlord and thief and rapist and slave trader.........


13 posted on 12/08/2004 4:06:53 PM PST by blackdog (May Islam meet Tennyson's "Ninth Wave" in my lifetime.)
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To: yonif
Islam cannot be reformed

Hmm. Seems odd to say something like this since Islam has already been through several manifestations and is different in interpretation and practice from place to place right now. Eventually it will be available in 1000s of flavors just like every other religion. Save the reflex slogans. This is the last gasp of the Baghdad madrassas.

14 posted on 12/08/2004 4:08:26 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: blackdog

All true!


15 posted on 12/08/2004 4:09:26 PM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: Snapple

Why depressing, the truth will set you free.

Only politically correct assumtpions are rebuked, not the facts. The facts still remain the same. All Muslims are our enemy, not the radicals. The non radicals are the enablers of the radicals. The non-radicals hide behind the radicals, secretly cheering them on and providing critical support.

Time to buy more ammo.


16 posted on 12/08/2004 4:11:28 PM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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To: USF

Linking Osama bin Laden to the attacks against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon in 2001, Tefft said: “To pretend that Islam has nothing to do with Sept. 11 is to willfully ignore the obvious and to forever misinterpret events.”
Gee, you would have to either dumb, blind, practicing taquija, or have your Tinfoil Turban wrapped too tight...

You forgot......"....or be a democrat."


17 posted on 12/08/2004 4:12:52 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: RightWhale
Islam has already been through several manifestations... and every single one of them has been violent, misogynistic, oppressive, primitive, bloodthirsty and inhumane.

Therefore, I am not interested in seeing their next demonic manifestation, JUST IN SEEING THEM GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!
18 posted on 12/08/2004 4:14:04 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: yonif
“There is no difference between Islam and Islamic fundamentalism, which is a totalitarian construct.”

A great many Freepers reached this conclusion several years ago.

(Although there are still a few pro islamic trolls popping up from time to time.)

19 posted on 12/08/2004 4:15:43 PM PST by Freebird Forever (HAPPY HANNUKAH!!!)
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To: JustAnotherOkie
The facts still remain the same. All Muslims are our enemy, not the radicals. The non radicals are the enablers of the radicals. The non-radicals hide behind the radicals, secretly cheering them on and providing critical support.

Well put, my friend. The stark truth has such a sweet sting to it, doesn't it?
20 posted on 12/08/2004 4:15:46 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: broadsword

Won't do to go blind with rage if one intends to go to war. One wouldn't be much good blind on the battle lines.


21 posted on 12/08/2004 4:16:20 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: tet68

LOL.. I thought "dumb" and "blind" took care of that!


22 posted on 12/08/2004 4:16:40 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Freebird Forever

Take a poll. Not just of likely clone posters to this thread, but of the vast majority who don't blow off just like the nutzoids on the Arab street. Just the same, no difference, both of them.


23 posted on 12/08/2004 4:19:51 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: RightWhale

So true. And the sky is blue most of the time. Sometimes there are clouds. At night it's dark.

Your point?


24 posted on 12/08/2004 4:20:25 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: yonif

One of the most astoundingly hard hitting and truthful articles I've ever seen. I'm stunned this was released.


25 posted on 12/08/2004 4:22:55 PM PST by G32
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To: broadsword
the sky is blue most of the time. Sometimes there are clouds.

Just opinion and not actually true. The sky is not blue most of the time and there are clouds most of the time. Makes as much sense as this lalalalalalal stuff.

26 posted on 12/08/2004 4:24:18 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: RightWhale
The sky is not blue most of the time and there are clouds most of the time.

LOL! You have not lived in Tucson.
27 posted on 12/08/2004 4:29:20 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: broadsword

That's true! I have thought about it, though, and now that I am retired I might eventually wander down that way.


28 posted on 12/08/2004 4:31:39 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: RightWhale

Severe summers here, FRiend. And Tucson is very liberal. Phoenix is just a touch hotter, but far more conservative.


29 posted on 12/08/2004 4:47:21 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: weenie

It's long past time for civilized people to rise up and crush islam.


30 posted on 12/08/2004 4:50:02 PM PST by ArmedNReady (Islam, the cancer on humanity...)
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To: yonif

Islamic terror based on Qu’ran: ex-CIA official



Truly shocking.
Who'd a guessed it?


31 posted on 12/08/2004 4:52:46 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (real republicans WIN.)
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To: broadsword

I was in Phoenix one day, just passing through. It was hot alright, but then it rained and looked like Venice, Italy with a Western flavor. No streets, just canals. It all boiled off quickly, so the lack of street drainage wasn't that much of a problem.


32 posted on 12/08/2004 4:53:16 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: broadsword

TERROR, MURDER, OPPRESSION AND MISOGYNY



the first four sacrements of Islam.


33 posted on 12/08/2004 4:55:39 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (real republicans WIN.)
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Bookmarked for later read


34 posted on 12/08/2004 4:58:00 PM PST by MonitorMaid (Merry CHRISTmas!)
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To: RightWhale
This is the last gasp of the Baghdad madrassas.

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How do you support this statement when there are over twenty countries around the globe experiencing islamist violence?

35 posted on 12/08/2004 4:59:43 PM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: Robert_Paulson2

Yep.


36 posted on 12/08/2004 5:01:08 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: yonif
All infidels are to be converted, enslaved or killed, he said, drawing on the
knowledge of Bernard Lewis, a Jewish historian who has written books about Islam
and Islamic history.


That's not reporting the whole story.
IIRC, Lewis has been called on to do a lot of explaining of Islam to US
gov. officials after 9-111.

And I think he was/is a professor...
37 posted on 12/08/2004 5:02:38 PM PST by VOA
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To: G32

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Testimonials/RichardDixon.htm


38 posted on 12/08/2004 5:04:16 PM PST by chasio649
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To: wtc911

The party's over. Turn out the lights. Some will keep going on inertia, same as ever, but there are remnants of every ill-advised movement there ever was. That's the way it is.


39 posted on 12/08/2004 5:05:27 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: RightWhale

As long as the Koran exists, Islam will continue to oppress, murder, enslave, threaten, lie and terrorize innocent people.

IOW: We are in this for the long haul and it is no joke.


40 posted on 12/08/2004 5:08:51 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: yonif

“Islamic terrorism is based on Islam as revealed through the Qu’ran...” And, he added, “There is no difference between Islam and Islamic fundamentalism, which is a totalitarian construct.”

According to Tefft, the Qu’ran enjoins Muslims to believe that the whole world should be governed by the principles of Islam, an expansionist religion that has historically grown through conquest.


Documented here:

Prophet of Doom - Islam’s Terrorist Dogma, In Muhammad’s Own Words


Islam is a caustic blend of regurgitated paganism and twisted Bible stories.
Muhammad, its lone prophet, conceived his religion solely to satiate his lust for power, sex, and money.
He was a terrorist.

And if you think these conclusions are shocking, wait until you see the evidence at www.prophetofdoom.net.



Radical Islam's 'plan' to take over America - Arab-American author outlines secret 20-year strategy to undermine country

The Islamic States of America?

Misunderstanding the Enemy: the Islamic Threat and the U.S. Media

CAIR: 'Moderate' friends of terror

An Open Letter to Islamic Organizations in America


‘Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth’

--Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998


41 posted on 12/08/2004 5:12:47 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: RightWhale

Your reading of the caliphate drive is wishful thinking.


42 posted on 12/08/2004 5:14:24 PM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: backhoe; SheLion; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; Prime Choice; CHARLITE; Mark Felton; RepCath

Ping


43 posted on 12/08/2004 5:16:44 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: RightWhale
Take a poll

Please clarify.

Whom do you wish me to poll?

And why?

44 posted on 12/08/2004 5:28:16 PM PST by Freebird Forever (HAPPY HANNUKAH!!!)
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Peaceful Islamic Bump /sarcasm


46 posted on 12/08/2004 5:32:24 PM PST by Robert Lomax (Allah ain't Akbar)
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To: VOA

I fall into the be killed column. However, I willnot go without a fight.


47 posted on 12/08/2004 5:34:01 PM PST by stockpirate (Check out my bio and learn about sKerry and his Socialist friends.)
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To: weenie

First Islam must be declared an enemy cult and a danger to the US Constitution. It's 'religious' protected status must be done away with. Once that happens, all mosques would be places where sedition is promoted ,and all those who call themselves Islamic, would be immediately be in violation of the law.
The non-citizen Islamics should then be found, put on military transports, and deported immediately.
US citizens, unless they publicly renounce their adherence to the enemy cult, should be interned like the Japanese were in WW2. Those who refuse to renounce Islam should join the illegals in deportation.
NO- and I mean NO individual identifying themselves as Muslim, or holding a passport from a Muslim country, should be allowed into the US.
These rules would remain in effect until Islam joins the modern world, renounces its goals of world domination, and ALL terrorists are turned in by the 'decent' Muslims. When the violent, bloodthirsty, barbaric aspects of Islam are no more, then it could be reconsidered as a religon.

Harsh? Yes. But they can't attack our country if they are not IN our country. Our lenience, tolerance, and trust has been- and will be- used against us.
We have a choice here- We can be 'fair'- and more of us will die by terrorism- or we can be 'unfair' and take EVERY measure possible to protect our way of life.
Terrorism will go on until we admit that our enemy is not playing by any rules of modern civilization.

I'd rather be unfair, and alive ,than fair and dead anytime.
There IS no compromise with Islam. It's ultimate goal is to destroy, and replace, the Constitution.
If we let them USE the Constitution to protect themselves, it's checkmate.


49 posted on 12/08/2004 5:51:24 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: ClearBlueSky
If I may say to you without sounding completely mad...Islam is Satanic...It cannot be expelled...it must be dealt with

After having said that, I don't knwo the answer...I am working on it day and night...but I have not solved the problem...Let me know when you do...I can tell you are working on it...

50 posted on 12/08/2004 6:00:04 PM PST by weenie ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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