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RUMSFELD SET UP; REPORTER PLANTED QUESTIONS WITH SOLDIER (DRUDGE SIREN)
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Posted on 12/09/2004 9:22:17 AM PST by Nascardude

Edited on 12/09/2004 10:05:10 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

RUMSFELD SET UP; REPORTER PLANTED QUESTIONS WITH SOLIDER
Thu Dec 09 2004 11:49:38 ET

Chattanooga Times Free Press reporter Edward Lee Pitts is embedded with the 278th Regimental Combat Team, now in Kuwait preparing to enter Iraq, and is filing articles for his newspaper. Pitts claims in a purported email that he coached soldiers to ask Defense Secretary Rumsfeld questions!

From: EDWARD LEE PITTS, Chattanooga Times Free Press military reporter
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2004 4:44 PM
To: Staffers

Subject: RE: Way to go

I just had one of my best days as a journalist today. As luck would have it, our journey North was delayed just long enough see I could attend a visit today here by Defense Secretary Rumsfeld. I was told yesterday that only soldiers could ask questions so I brought two of them along with me as my escorts. Before hand we worked on questions to ask Rumsfeld about the appalling lack of armor their vehicles going into combat have. While waiting for the VIP, I went and found the Sgt. in charge of the microphone for the question and answer session and made sure he knew to get my guys out of the crowd.

So during the Q&A session, one of my guys was the second person called on. When he asked Rumsfeld why after two years here soldiers are still having to dig through trash bins to find rusted scrap metal and cracked ballistic windows for their Humvees, the place erupted in cheers so loud that Rumsfeld had to ask the guy to repeat his question. Then Rumsfeld answered something about it being "not a lack of desire or money but a logistics/physics problem." He said he recently saw about 8 of the special up-armored Humvees guarding Washington, DC, and he promised that they would no longer be used for that and that he would send them over here. Then he asked a three star general standing behind him, the commander of all ground forces here, to also answer the question. The general said it was a problem he is working on.

The great part was that after the event was over the throng of national media following Rumsfeld- The New York Times, AP, all the major networks -- swarmed to the two soldiers I brought from the unit I am embedded with. Out of the 1,000 or so troops at the event there were only a handful of guys from my unit b/c the rest were too busy prepping for our trip north. The national media asked if they were the guys with the armor problem and then stuck cameras in their faces. The NY Times reporter asked me to email him the stories I had already done on it, but I said he could search for them himself on the Internet and he better not steal any of my lines. I have been trying to get this story out for weeks- as soon as I foud out I would be on an unarmored truck- and my paper published two stories on it. But it felt good to hand it off to the national press. I believe lives are at stake with so many soldiers going across the border riding with scrap metal as protection. It may be to late for the unit I am with, but hopefully not for those who come after.

The press officer in charge of my regiment, the 278th, came up to me afterwords and asked if my story would be positive. I replied that I would write the truth. Then I pointed at the horde of national media pointing cameras and mics at the 278th guys and said he had bigger problems on his hands than the Chattanooga Times Free Press. This is what this job is all about - people need to know. The solider who asked the question said he felt good b/c he took his complaints to the top. When he got back to his unit most of the guys patted him on the back but a few of the officers were upset b/c they thought it would make them look bad. From what I understand this is all over the news back home.

Thanks,

Lee

EDWARD LEE PITTS FILED STORY ABOUT THE TROOPS BEFORE THE POW-WOW WITH RUMSFELD

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1 posted on 12/09/2004 9:22:17 AM PST by Nascardude
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To: Nascardude

Rush talking about this now.


2 posted on 12/09/2004 9:23:03 AM PST by J. Worthington Witfellow (Be sure you cross the swamp before you taunt the gators)
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To: Nascardude

Will they ever learn? Why am I not surprised?
The MSM has gone off the deep end..........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 12/09/2004 9:23:34 AM PST by Bush Revolution (God Bless America...Home of the Brave)
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To: J. Worthington Witfellow
Hmmm.........

Waiting....

4 posted on 12/09/2004 9:23:37 AM PST by Lurking in Kansas (;&Uj/  ....If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand)
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To: Nascardude

This is all that's up there for now. When he posts more, I'll add it to this thread


5 posted on 12/09/2004 9:23:50 AM PST by Nascardude
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To: Nascardude

Was it Dan Rather in disguise?


6 posted on 12/09/2004 9:23:53 AM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: Nascardude

Well, well.


7 posted on 12/09/2004 9:24:10 AM PST by Constitution Day (Please keep Freeper TomServo in your prayers today.)
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To: Nascardude; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
Un F'n REAL!!!

I bet that's the last time that reporter gets into a DoD presser.

8 posted on 12/09/2004 9:24:28 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Nascardude; hchutch

Whoopsie. Looks like the media hasn't figured it out yet.


9 posted on 12/09/2004 9:24:38 AM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Nascardude

That soldier is still an idiot. What good does telling the enemy those trucks aren't armored in a public serve? More people will die now because that idiot pointed out a weak point.


10 posted on 12/09/2004 9:25:02 AM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Nascardude

I'LL BE ACCEPTING APOLOGIES FROM OTHER THREAD, THANK YOU.


11 posted on 12/09/2004 9:25:04 AM PST by marty60
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To: Poohbah

Turns a passionate question into insubordination.


12 posted on 12/09/2004 9:25:27 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Nascardude

whats a solider?


13 posted on 12/09/2004 9:25:27 AM PST by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: Nascardude

Rush just had it as well!


14 posted on 12/09/2004 9:25:29 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: Nascardude

I'm betting Reuters or Cnn...........


15 posted on 12/09/2004 9:26:11 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Nascardude

Who is the reporter...we need name(s)!


16 posted on 12/09/2004 9:26:57 AM PST by newfreep
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Turns a passionate question into insubordination.

Oh, yes, that's right!

Everyone is SO f***ed.

17 posted on 12/09/2004 9:27:12 AM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Nascardude

More from Drudge:


From: [Chattanooga Times Free Press military reporter] Pitts, Lee
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2004 4:44 PM
To: [Chattanooga Times Free Press staffers]

Subject: RE: Way to go

I just had one of my best days as a journalist today. As luck would have it, our journey North was delayed just long enough see I could attend a visit today here by Defense Secretary Rumsfeld. I was told yesterday that only soldiers could ask questions so I brought two of them along with me as my escorts. Before hand we worked on questions to ask Rumsfeld about the appalling lack of armor their vehicles going into combat have. While waiting for the VIP, I went and found the Sgt. in charge of the microphone for the question and answer session and made sure he knew to get my guys out of the crowd.

So during the Q&A session, one of my guys was the second person called on. When he asked Rumsfeld why after two years here soldiers are still having to dig through trash bins to find rusted scrap metal and cracked ballistic windows for their Humvees, the place erupted in cheers so loud that Rumsfeld had to ask the guy to repeat his question. Then Rumsfeld answered something about it being "not a lack of desire or money but a logistics/physics problem." He said he recently saw about 8 of the special up-armored Humvees guarding Washington, DC, and he promised that they would no longer be used for that and that he would send them over here. Then he asked a three star general standing behind him, the commander of all ground forces here, to also answer the question. The general said it was a problem he is working on.

The great part was that after the event was over the throng of national media following Rumsfeld- The New York Times, AP, all the major networks -- swarmed to the two soldiers I brought from the unit I am embedded with. Out of the 1,000 or so troops at the event there were only a handful of guys from my unit b/c the rest were too busy prepping for our trip north. The national media asked if they were the guys with the armor problem and then stuck cameras in their faces. The NY Times reporter asked me to email him the stories I had already done on it, but I said he could search for them himself on the Internet and he better not steal any of my lines. I have been trying to get this story out for weeks- as soon as I foud out I would be on an unarmored truck- and my paper published two stories on it. But it felt good to hand it off to the national press. I believe lives are at stake with so many soldiers going across the border riding with scrap metal as protection. It may be to late for the unit I am with, but hopefully not for those who come after.

The press officer in charge of my regiment, the 278th, came up to me afterwords and asked if my story would be positive. I replied that I would write the truth. Then I pointed at the horde of national media pointing cameras and mics at the 278th guys and said he had bigger problems on his hands than the Chattanooga Times Free Press. This is what this job is all about - people need to know. The solider who asked the question said he felt good b/c he took his complaints to the top. When he got back to his unit most of the guys patted him on the back but a few of the officers were upset b/c they thought it would make them look bad. From what I understand this is all over the news back home.

Thanks,

Lee


18 posted on 12/09/2004 9:27:27 AM PST by Republican Red (A Global Freak'n Test ???????)
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To: Nascardude

Should have guessed something was up. This morning there was a soundbite on ABC radio with the mom or wife or sister (can't remember) saying "If he says he didn't have supplies he didn'thave supplies". Fine, but why would anyone have doubted he was shooting straight in the first place?


19 posted on 12/09/2004 9:27:27 AM PST by Rippin
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To: chudogg

Not something now in that young man's pants, I'm thinking.


20 posted on 12/09/2004 9:27:36 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: newfreep

[Chattanooga Times Free Press military reporter] Pitts, Lee


21 posted on 12/09/2004 9:27:46 AM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Nascardude
Then the media proceeded to misrepresent the lengthy response Rumsfeld gave and proceeded to make him appear cavalier and indifferent.

We're waiting to hear who the reporter was who set this up.

It might be handy to have the exchange posted here for easy reference. I found it here at The Corner:

Q: Yes, Mr. Secretary. My question is more logistical. We’ve had troops in Iraq for coming up on three years and we’ve always staged here out of Kuwait. Now why do we soldiers have to dig through local landfills for pieces of scrap metal and compromise ballistic glass to up-armor our vehicles and why don’t we have those resources readily available to us? [Applause]

SEC. RUMSFELD: I missed the first part of your question. And could you repeat it for me?

Q: Yes, Mr. Secretary. Our soldiers have been fighting in Iraq for coming up on three years. A lot of us are getting ready to move north relatively soon. Our vehicles are not armored. We’re digging pieces of rusted scrap metal and compromised ballistic glass that’s already been shot up, dropped, busted, picking the best out of this scrap to put on our vehicles to take into combat. We do not have proper armament vehicles to carry with us north.

SEC. RUMSFELD: I talked to the General coming out here about the pace at which the vehicles are being armored. They have been brought from all over the world, wherever they’re not needed, to a place here where they are needed. I’m told that they are being – the Army is – I think it’s something like 400 a month are being done. And it’s essentially a matter of physics. It isn’t a matter of money. It isn’t a matter on the part of the Army of desire. It’s a matter of production and capability of doing it.

As you know, you go to war with the Army you have. They’re not the Army you might want or wish to have at a later time. Since the Iraq conflict began, the Army has been pressing ahead to produce the armor necessary at a rate that they believe – it’s a greatly expanded rate from what existed previously, but a rate that they believe is the rate that is all that can be accomplished at this moment.

I can assure you that General Schoomaker and the leadership in the Army and certainly General Whitcomb are sensitive to the fact that not every vehicle has the degree of armor that would be desirable for it to have, but that they’re working at it at a good clip. It’s interesting, I’ve talked a great deal about this with a team of people who’ve been working on it hard at the Pentagon. And if you think about it, you can have all the armor in the world on a tank and a tank can be blown up. And you can have an up-armored humvee and it can be blown up. And you can go down and, the vehicle, the goal we have is to have as many of those vehicles as is humanly possible with the appropriate level of armor available for the troops. And that is what the Army has been working on.

And General Whitcomb, is there anything you’d want to add to that?

GEN. WHITCOMB: Nothing. [Laughter] Mr. Secretary, I’d be happy to. That is a focus on what we do here in Kuwait and what is done up in the theater, both in Iraq and also in Afghanistan. As the secretary has said, it’s not a matter of money or desire; it is a matter of the logistics of being able to produce it. The 699th, the team that we’ve got here in Kuwait has done [Cheers] a tremendous effort to take that steel that they have and cut it, prefab it and put it on vehicles. But there is nobody from the president on down that is not aware that this is a challenge for us and this is a desire for us to accomplish.

SEC. RUMSFELD: The other day, after there was a big threat alert in Washington, D.C. in connection with the elections, as I recall, I looked outside the Pentagon and there were six or eight up-armored humvees. They’re not there anymore. [Cheers] [Applause] They’re en route out here, I can assure you. Next. Way in the back. Yes.

22 posted on 12/09/2004 9:27:52 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: OXENinFLA

Huh?? .. How was it planted??


23 posted on 12/09/2004 9:28:15 AM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: OXENinFLA
I bet that's the last time that reporter gets into a DoD presser.

Or anybody else from his news agency, for that matter.

24 posted on 12/09/2004 9:28:55 AM PST by Allegra (11 days until I'm home!)
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To: Nascardude
Let's do to them, what they always do to conservatives.

Remember way back when a Democratic memo was leaked from the Intelligence Committee detailing how they were going to use the committee and it's information for political gain? Remember? And what was the result?

The Dems succeeded in turning attention away from the memo and to the "absolutely terrible theft of private Democratic materials". They went after the messenger and not the message.

Well, let's go after the messenger (reporter) and not the message (the Rumsfeld reaction).

25 posted on 12/09/2004 9:29:02 AM PST by technomage
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To: Republican Red

I'm not sure about this, to tell the truth. This could easily be a bogus email.


26 posted on 12/09/2004 9:29:06 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: newfreep

It doesn't make any different which reporter did it. They'd all do it if they had a chance. I am sooo sick of the MSM. As my father used to say: "They're all a bunch of bums!"


27 posted on 12/09/2004 9:29:23 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Mo1

The reporter that the soldiers were with set us up the bomb....


28 posted on 12/09/2004 9:29:26 AM PST by b4its2late (Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: Nascardude

not surprising...
but the soldier who asked the question will probably have some serious questions to answer from his C.O.


29 posted on 12/09/2004 9:29:50 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: 1stMarylandRegiment; 1Mike; 3catsanadog; ~Vor~; ~Kim4VRWC's~; A CA Guy; A Citizen Reporter; ...

Well, well........everybody whose surprised, raise your hand.


30 posted on 12/09/2004 9:29:59 AM PST by Howlin (W, Still the President)
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To: Nascardude

Oh,man.If that is true.......
But, by the same token,I feel personally that Rumsfeld's response was inappropriate.You don't make cavalier comments such as he did to a gathering of soldiers at wartime.(Now,before the flaming starts,let me say that I am not siding against Rumsfeld.The man has a tough job.But the comments he made do not bode well, morale-wise, with the troops.That's all i'm saying.)


31 posted on 12/09/2004 9:30:00 AM PST by gimme1ibertee (A liberal is a mental case is a liberal.)
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To: gopwinsin04

Rush is doing his usual 'I knew it' routine. When Rush has a thought, he usually says it and doesn't hold back. This is his way of making him seem smarter than the rest of us. He did a similar thing when my brother talked to him on the air a few years ago. He said, "I was waiting for a call like yours".


32 posted on 12/09/2004 9:30:37 AM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: Republican Red

I tried to point out yesterday that his was part of a MSM propaganda campaign. Yet I received vile and hateful responses. Boy are people gullible. The "worried" soldier was a plant. I sure as H wouldn't want to be in a fox hole with him.


33 posted on 12/09/2004 9:30:55 AM PST by marty60
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To: cyncooper
Secretary Rumsfeld Town Hall Meeting in Kuwait

Full transcript

34 posted on 12/09/2004 9:30:55 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Nascardude

It doesn't matter now.
MSM have already gotten the mileage out of it.


35 posted on 12/09/2004 9:31:16 AM PST by onyx (A BLESSED & MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL.)
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To: Nascardude

Reporter: "I have been trying to get this story out for weeks- as soon as I found out I would be on an unarmored truck- "

Otheriwse, he didn't give a s**t?


36 posted on 12/09/2004 9:31:42 AM PST by jim macomber (Author: "Bargained for Exchange", "Art & Part", "A Grave Breach" http://www.jamesmacomber.com)
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To: Mo1
Before hand we worked on questions to ask Rumsfeld about the appalling lack of armor their vehicles going into combat have.

From post 18

37 posted on 12/09/2004 9:32:01 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: marty60

:-)


38 posted on 12/09/2004 9:32:03 AM PST by Howlin (W, Still the President)
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To: Nascardude
So during the Q&A session, one of my guys was the second person called on. When he asked Rumsfeld why after two years here soldiers are still having to dig through trash bins to find rusted scrap metal and cracked ballistic windows for their Humvees, the place erupted in cheers so loud that Rumsfeld had to ask the guy to repeat his question.

So all the troops didn't "erupt in cheers" to the questions asked?

So I guess this is all a lie.

39 posted on 12/09/2004 9:33:27 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: J. Worthington Witfellow

RUMSFELD SET UP; REPORTER PLANTED QUESTIONS WITH SOLIDER

Chattanooga Times Free Press reporter Edward Lee Pitts is embedded with the 278th Regimental Combat Team, now in Kuwait preparing to enter Iraq, and is filing articles for his newspaper. Pitts claims in a purported email that he coached soldiers to ask Defense Secretary Rumsfeld questions!

From: EDWARD LEE PITTS, Chattanooga Times Free Press military reporter
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2004 4:44 PM
To: Staffers

Subject: RE: Way to go

I just had one of my best days as a journalist today. As luck would have it, our journey North was delayed just long enough see I could attend a visit today here by Defense Secretary Rumsfeld. I was told yesterday that only soldiers could ask questions so I brought two of them along with me as my escorts. Before hand we worked on questions to ask Rumsfeld about the appalling lack of armor their vehicles going into combat have. While waiting for the VIP, I went and found the Sgt. in charge of the microphone for the question and answer session and made sure he knew to get my guys out of the crowd.

So during the Q&A session, one of my guys was the second person called on. When he asked Rumsfeld why after two years here soldiers are still having to dig through trash bins to find rusted scrap metal and cracked ballistic windows for their Humvees, the place erupted in cheers so loud that Rumsfeld had to ask the guy to repeat his question. Then Rumsfeld answered something about it being "not a lack of desire or money but a logistics/physics problem." He said he recently saw about 8 of the special up-armored Humvees guarding Washington, DC, and he promised that they would no longer be used for that and that he would send them over here. Then he asked a three star general standing behind him, the commander of all ground forces here, to also answer the question. The general said it was a problem he is working on.

The great part was that after the event was over the throng of national media following Rumsfeld- The New York Times, AP, all the major networks -- swarmed to the two soldiers I brought from the unit I am embedded with. Out of the 1,000 or so troops at the event there were only a handful of guys from my unit b/c the rest were too busy prepping for our trip north. The national media asked if they were the guys with the armor problem and then stuck cameras in their faces. The NY Times reporter asked me to email him the stories I had already done on it, but I said he could search for them himself on the Internet and he better not steal any of my lines. I have been trying to get this story out for weeks- as soon as I foud out I would be on an unarmored truck- and my paper published two stories on it. But it felt good to hand it off to the national press. I believe lives are at stake with so many soldiers going across the border riding with scrap metal as protection. It may be to late for the unit I am with, but hopefully not for those who come after.

The press officer in charge of my regiment, the 278th, came up to me afterwords and asked if my story would be positive. I replied that I would write the truth. Then I pointed at the horde of national media pointing cameras and mics at the 278th guys and said he had bigger problems on his hands than the Chattanooga Times Free Press. This is what this job is all about - people need to know. The solider who asked the question said he felt good b/c he took his complaints to the top. When he got back to his unit most of the guys patted him on the back but a few of the officers were upset b/c they thought it would make them look bad. From what I understand this is all over the news back home.

Thanks,

Lee

EDWARD LEE PITTS FILED STORY ABOUT http://www.greene.xtn.net/index.php?table=news&template=news.view.subscriber&newsid=117612


40 posted on 12/09/2004 9:34:17 AM PST by MD4Bush (Bush must win)
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To: Nascardude

Rummy may have been a little bit tricked, but if the Armor is not there he set himself up.

There were major miscalulations and our boys are dying because of that. We have to take the bad with the good and it must be aired even though it sounds like a democratic ploy.

Let's quit pussy footing around over there. This thing may hurt a little bit at first but hopefully embarrasing Rummy will get him kicking some ass.


41 posted on 12/09/2004 9:34:20 AM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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To: onyx
MSM have already gotten the mileage out of it.
100% right. Report it if it hurts Bush, even if it is wrong or can't be confirmed.
42 posted on 12/09/2004 9:34:42 AM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: Nascardude
Yes, but is the problem with the armor true, and if so why? If so it is not acceptable. I am a strong supporter of Bush, Rumsfeld, and our troops having the equipment they are supposed to have.

In WWII My great aunt was working in a munitions factory. The workers were making bomb fuses and they knew that every fifth one was defective and not supposed to be. They were threatened with loss of their jobs, which they needed to survive. One woman said she didn't care, her son was a pilot in one of those bombers and she wasn't going to stay quiet. What/ if anything happened as a result, that part of the story was lost.

I support my president but I support the troops first. Abraham Lincoln carried the Union soldier vote because the troops had a saying about Lincoln: "If he finds out about it, it will stop."

43 posted on 12/09/2004 9:35:36 AM PST by Williams
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To: Nascardude

If any are cubicle bound and don't have access to a radio, you can listen here:

http://www.kfi640.com/interactive/streaming.html or here http://www.wlsam.com/


44 posted on 12/09/2004 9:35:40 AM PST by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either religious moral relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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To: Nascardude
Look at the subject from the email. It says "Way to go". The MSN was already congratulating the punk for the attempted crucification of Rumsfeld
45 posted on 12/09/2004 9:36:10 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: Nascardude

Based on the email, the specialist wanted to talk about this and just used the reporter's phrasing of the question. I don't see the controversy.


46 posted on 12/09/2004 9:36:44 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: cyncooper
Then the media proceeded to misrepresent the lengthy response Rumsfeld gave and proceeded to make him appear cavalier and indifferent.

You'd think the media would learn a lesson from ALL the other times they've been caught

47 posted on 12/09/2004 9:37:02 AM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: Republican Red
and he promised that they would no longer be used for that and that he would send them over here.

That's NOT what Rummy said. this is what he said.

SEC. RUMSFELD: The other day, after there was a big threat alert in Washington, D.C. in connection with the elections, as I recall, I looked outside the Pentagon and there were six or eight up-armored humvees. They’re not there anymore. [Cheers] [Applause] They’re en route out here, I can assure you. Next. Way in the back. Yes.

48 posted on 12/09/2004 9:37:12 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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Why did all the soldiers in the room cheer when the question was asked?

Are you saying all of those cheering soldiers were in some kind of grand conspiracy to embarrass the sec of defense??

49 posted on 12/09/2004 9:37:13 AM PST by Walkin Man
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Drudge's siren story of setup in #40. Transcript of exchange between Rumsfeld and the soldier posted in #22.

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

50 posted on 12/09/2004 9:37:45 AM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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