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CBS News supports censoring blogs
Lone Star Times ^ | 12-09-2004 | David_Wildes

Posted on 12/09/2004 10:18:50 PM PST by weegee

When I was linking to CBS News for my Stupefy Me report earlier today (directly below), I came across this gem of a story (FR THREAD ON THE CBS ARTICLE: Blogs: New Medium, Old Politics NEW YORK, Dec. 8, 2004). It appears that CBS News not only is striking back at the blogs and bloggers that took out Dan Rather and embarrassed their entire organization, but they are also supporting censorship of us rascally citizens.

Internet blogs are providing a new and unregulated medium for politically motivated attacks. With the same First Amendment protections as newspapers, blogs are increasingly gaining influence.

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…Case precedent on political speech as it pertains to blogs does not exist. But where journalists' careers may be broken on ethics violations, bloggers are writing in the Wild West of cyberspace. There remains no code of ethics, or even an employer, to enforce any standard.

At minimum, the role of blogs in the Daschle-Thune race is a telling harbinger for 2006 and 2008. Some blogs could become new vehicles for the old political dirty tricks.

Like all media, blogs hold the potential for abuse. Experts point out that blogs' unregulated status makes them particularly attractive outlets for political attack.

(snip)

“[The question is] whether blogs are analogous to a sole person campaigning or whether they are very much a media publication, which is essentially akin to an online newspaper,” said Goldberg, who is the legal counsel to the American Society of Newspaper Editors.

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Beginning next year, the F.E.C. will institute new rules on the restricted uses of the Internet as it relates to political speech.

“I think those questions are going to have to be asked and answered,” said Lillian BeVier, a First Amendment expert at the University of Virginia. “It’s going to be an issue and it should be an issue.”

The whole story is worth a read. It details the impact of blogs on the Daschle-Thune race. Surprisingly, it does not mention the impact of blogs on Dan Rather or our liberal counterparts’ impact on the leaking of exit poll data. There is no word on whether veteran anchors can be used as a vehicles for the old political dirty tricks.


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1 posted on 12/09/2004 10:18:50 PM PST by weegee
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To: weegee

ohhh

I really hope they try to regulate blogs....


This is a perfect time for a "Go ahead, make my day" quote from Cline Eastwood :)


2 posted on 12/09/2004 10:20:09 PM PST by MikefromOhio (32 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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To: weegee

The Legacy Media Strikes Back. Film at 11.


3 posted on 12/09/2004 10:21:06 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: weegee

So, they (CBS, et al) can always sue us. That is a form of regulation. Otherwise, we are as free as they are to propagate discussion.


4 posted on 12/09/2004 10:22:12 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING


5 posted on 12/09/2004 10:23:06 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

One side of the SD thing is explained here:

http://southdakotapolitics.blogs.com/south_dakota_politics/2004/week50/index.html#a0002942229

I didn't know about or care about this and I don't now. However, if the guy was a consultant he should have had a notice on his blog to that effect. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Whatever Duncan B. Black/Hatrios or Oliver Witless do is there own problem.


6 posted on 12/09/2004 10:25:22 PM PST by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: weegee

Good work weegee. Bump for later read.


7 posted on 12/09/2004 10:26:52 PM PST by carl in alaska (Once a Chargers fan, always a Chargers fan....)
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To: weegee

The world of news reporting has changed.

CBS and the rest of the MSM shmucks are just gonna' have to live with that.


8 posted on 12/09/2004 10:29:23 PM PST by Bullish
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To: weegee
Sure, time for this one, too:


9 posted on 12/09/2004 10:29:39 PM PST by alancarp (When does it cease to be "Freedom of the Press" and become outright SEDITION?)
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To: weegee; All
From the article:

Beginning next year, the F.E.C. will institute new rules on the restricted uses of the Internet as it relates to political speech.

What does this mean?

10 posted on 12/09/2004 10:30:15 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

John Kerry had people from MoveOn.ORG and the Bush parody website working in his campaign.

There was a lot of coordination going on. In the case of the parody site, it actually shut down so that he could devote time to the campaign (and possibly to avoid FEC filing).

What's a blog, what's a PAC, what's an online newspaper/magazine?


11 posted on 12/09/2004 10:30:35 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: MikeinIraq

YEAH... (best Dean Voice) Bring it On.

The Way too Liberal Supreme Court is pretty much in love with the net, and the bloggers are Exactly the part they are most in love with.

So it looks like CBS is going to have to get used to having 20 million fact checkers looking over thier sholder from now on. 5 years ago they would have gotten away with thier little fraud. No more. And the fact that they tried just hastens their demise.

Yes, bloggers are just opinionated writers at some far off corner of the internet. Funny how so many millions of Americans are able to discern the truth without the help of CBS. Funny how so many Ma and Pa Polyesters are able to wade thru the trash of sex tales and juvinile rantings to focus on about 100 really good writers who can state their case and prove their theorys with tools at hand. Funny how an informal web of such people can bring down a giant.

Oh yes, CBS Please DO float a proposition to Regulate the Bloggers. Please!!!


12 posted on 12/09/2004 10:30:59 PM PST by konaice
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To: Bullish

The Pajamahadeen are here to stay. Ours is an insurgency that can't be uprooted since it has no "centers." Its the first known instance of assymetric info netwarfare in the 21st Century.


13 posted on 12/09/2004 10:31:34 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Judith Anne

Probably a bylaw of CFR. We all knew that it restricted political speech. It is unconstitutional and will have to be tossed out but first it must go to the Supreme Court.


14 posted on 12/09/2004 10:31:51 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: goldstategop
Get the message out in bathroom graffiti if you have to. "They" can't shut everyone up.
15 posted on 12/09/2004 10:32:44 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: konaice

Although I think that even CBS isnt that stupid.

I would bet they back off of this. They know they would get crucified...


16 posted on 12/09/2004 10:32:58 PM PST by MikefromOhio (32 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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To: Bullish
The world of news reporting has changed.

Agreed! Sort of like the 9/11 of MSM.

17 posted on 12/09/2004 10:33:01 PM PST by konaice
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To: weegee

It won't get tossed. But its impossible to enforce it. CFR will collapse of its own weight before then.


18 posted on 12/09/2004 10:33:10 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: alancarp

Better put some ice on that.


19 posted on 12/09/2004 10:33:40 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

Thanks. It just raises the hair on the back of my neck, that's all...


20 posted on 12/09/2004 10:34:06 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: konaice

> So it looks like CBS is going to have to get used to
> having 20 million fact checkers looking over their
> sholder from now on.

From now on?

Free political speech has been flowing on the Internet,
and the ARPAnet before it, for over 20 years. CBS is
just a little slow to notice.

They need to worry less about who will be checking on them,
and more about whether CBS will be around for anyone to
bother checking on.


21 posted on 12/09/2004 10:34:59 PM PST by Boundless
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To: Judith Anne
Beginning next year, the F.E.C. will institute new rules on the restricted uses of the Internet as it relates to political speech. What does this mean?

It means the government will actually require you to wear tinfoil on your head to keep OUT the bloggers. Strange turn of events, eh?

22 posted on 12/09/2004 10:36:00 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Judith Anne
"What does this mean?"

I think it means the beltway doesn't like us talking to eachother so much.

23 posted on 12/09/2004 10:37:01 PM PST by Bonaparte (Of course, it must look like an accident...)
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To: weegee
Beginning next year, the F.E.C. will institute new rules on the restricted uses of the Internet as it relates to political speech....

WTF??? Since when is the federal government, each and every officer and commissioner of which is sworn to uphold the Constitution, in the business of "restrict[ing]" "political speech"??? (Not counting the FCC's former Fairness Doctrine, a misguided policy predicated on the perceived scarcity of radio bandwidth.)

I mean, political speech was the whole reason for the First Amendment in the first place. Nowadays, it seems that pornography has more protection than political speech.

/rant
24 posted on 12/09/2004 10:37:16 PM PST by mondonico (Peace through Superior Firepower)
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To: goldstategop; konaice

When they talk about regulating blogs, know that Free Republic is on the top of their list.


25 posted on 12/09/2004 10:38:33 PM PST by Bullish
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To: Judith Anne
That one got my attention too.

BTW, wasn't Dan's creative writing test scores due this week?

26 posted on 12/09/2004 10:39:04 PM PST by 4woodenboats (Cherry picking season is over! WA State is tired of being Gored!!)
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To: 4woodenboats

Dec. 10 or 11, I thought I read.


27 posted on 12/09/2004 10:41:53 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Bonaparte

Well, bleep the Beltway. ;-D


28 posted on 12/09/2004 10:42:48 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Boundless
Free political speech has been flowing on the Internet, and the ARPAnet before it, for over 20 years.

True, but it didn't matter then. Now, with something like 75% of the American Households having some access to the net, and web publishing something a high schoold dropout can master, it can no longer be ignored.

It was easy to ignore 5000 radicals at various colleges. Even if they proved their point and showed the documetation, nobody would listen, and you couldn't get it aired to save your sole. But now we need no one else's concent or approval to get something really wide exposure.

But, be that as it may, the important part of this is not now widespread it is, but how adept the American public is at filtering the sewage from the wine. How well and how quickly the word spreads and the forged documents were found out. One day. One F*ing day!

29 posted on 12/09/2004 10:43:13 PM PST by konaice
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To: Judith Anne
Dec. 10 or 11, I thought I read

Of course. Bad news is always released on Fri. afternoon to keep a sharp dip caused by paniced shareholders from sitting all weekend. Thanks.

30 posted on 12/09/2004 10:51:27 PM PST by 4woodenboats (Cherry picking season is over! WA State is tired of being Gored!!)
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To: weegee
Note to the left wing maggots in charge of CBS phoney news. We have our eye on your eye!

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31 posted on 12/09/2004 11:12:33 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans Articles = GIM=GAY INFECTED MEDIOTS!)
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To: weegee

Separated at birth-- The CBS eye and Gort, the robot from The Day the Earth Stood Still.


32 posted on 12/09/2004 11:40:59 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Cboldt

"So, they (CBS, et al) can always sue us. That is a form of regulation. Otherwise, we are as free as they are to propagate discussion."

We're also free to discuss their propaganda.


33 posted on 12/09/2004 11:41:58 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (The 80s belonged to the Gipper, the Aughts belong to Dubya!)
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To: IowaHawk
You scored. Big time.

33 posts so far...

34 posted on 12/09/2004 11:50:14 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: MikeinIraq

Dawg. Let'em try...

Oops, wait, they're gonna try. Dang it.

Awrighty then, let'em try really fast, because at the rate they're going, the Old Media is gonna be the Dead Media in five years.

Good luck in getting blog regulation passed during this administration!


35 posted on 12/09/2004 11:50:55 PM PST by dandelion (http://thequestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: weegee

Natch.


36 posted on 12/09/2004 11:53:56 PM PST by GretchenM (Because the wicked never stop, the righteous must work even harder.)
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To: weegee

Well...

It looks like Claire Wolfe may have to revise on when it's time to "shoot the bastards."


37 posted on 12/09/2004 11:54:27 PM PST by papertyger
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To: konaice
"Even if they proved their point and showed the documetation, nobody would listen, and you couldn't get it aired to save your sole."

The soulless creeps better keep their damned hands off my sole! And neither my soul, nor my sole, is for sale!


38 posted on 12/09/2004 11:57:43 PM PST by Enterprise (The left hates the Constitution. Islamic Fascism hates America. Natural allies.)
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To: weegee
At minimum, the role of blogs in the Daschle-Thune race is a telling harbinger for 2006 and 2008. Some blogs could become new vehicles for the old political dirty tricks.

CBS wants a MONOPOLY on this.

39 posted on 12/10/2004 12:02:02 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Cyclopean Squid
We're also free to discuss their propaganda.

That's what I meant to say.

40 posted on 12/10/2004 12:03:41 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: weegee

Ha!,Ha!... CBS...The pajama blogger brigade kicked the crap out of you and you don't like it...So you want to censor free speech?...good luck! You hate it that we showed all those way overpaid exec's are not worth a damn. Does it embarass you?...L.O.L.


41 posted on 12/10/2004 12:12:17 AM PST by Route101
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To: AmericaUnited

CBS doesn't want the monopoly. They just want to see that the DNC has a monopoly on it.


42 posted on 12/10/2004 12:31:17 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Route101

Exposing their Zogbyism cost them millions AND the election.


43 posted on 12/10/2004 12:31:46 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

Note to CBS:

In the final analysis, advertising, packaging, and torpedoing the competition aren't going to save your dog food company if the dogs don't like it.


44 posted on 12/10/2004 12:43:18 AM PST by papertyger
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To: MikeinIraq

Yeah right. They can almost regulate blogs. Then you will see hundreds of blogs open up in places beyond the US's borders. I live abroad. I can post whatever I want about the US and nobody can stop me. As long as I don't threaten people nor break the laws of the country I'm living in. CBS can do whatever they like, but they will pay a heavier price than just losing old gasbag Rather.


45 posted on 12/10/2004 12:45:51 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: weegee

Indeed.......I like thst word....Zogbyism...and now for another zogbyism.....


46 posted on 12/10/2004 12:46:58 AM PST by Route101
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To: weegee
"CBS News supports censoring blogs"

This is the funniest thing I've read in a long time.

I love it when the opposition admits they got their collective butts whipped by rank amateurs. And I love it when they propose such an untenable solution as to censor a medium so inherently anarchical and uncensorable, as the internet.

As President Bush said: Bring it on!

--Boot Hill

47 posted on 12/10/2004 12:48:17 AM PST by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: Judith Anne
What they are really saying is " Beginning next year , the F.E.C. will institute new rules on the restricted uses of Conservative/Republicans on the Internet as it relates to political speech, and religious Christian speech and the Conservative/Republicans will no longer have FREE SPEECH in this country no more, violators will be put in the Soviet Gulag " . MSM has declared until father notice , that there will be a crackdown on any political speech of conservatism/republicanism and Christians, MSM's goal is to have only one communist/democratic party in this country. ( Sarcasm )
48 posted on 12/10/2004 12:57:18 AM PST by Prophet in the Wilderess
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To: sam_paine

My wife wears 'Saran Wrap' over her head for some strange hair treatment. I have found it is unwise to snicker. I just bite my lips and hope the insane urge to smile passes quickly.


49 posted on 12/10/2004 12:58:27 AM PST by carumba
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To: Boot Hill
Of course the favor sensoring blogs...they reveal CBS to be a biased, lying organization and cut in on their business.
50 posted on 12/10/2004 12:58:29 AM PST by Seņor Zorro
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