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To: Raycpa
Do you believe there is no God because if there was he would have to conform to your point of view of what he would be like ? Or do you simply reject the entire idea of a God

Whoa. Your question makes an assumption that is not true. I said I didn't think God sends humans to Hell forever. That's not quite the same as not believing in God.

and find it fun to try and point out what you think are inconsistencies about Christianity ?

I raised the question about the Khmer Rouge and their victims in response to post #335:

Regardless, you will come before him and as I stated earlier if you didn't accept Christ it will not be a happy time for you. Christians can be arrogant as we are right! I will pray for you.

That didn't sound like it was meant very kindly, so I presented the poster with a real life example of what his beliefs might entail. And yes, the Khmer Rouge question does seem to give people trouble.

So when I happen to see a poster play the Hell card, I'm going to play the Khmer card and folks will just have to deal with it or ignore my posts.

Or do you think God exists but would not have any requirements regarding heaven and all are welcome ? Or something else entirely ?

I guess I could be called a Deist. I don't know the nature of God or the afterlife, but I think both exist. I see no reason for an all poweful and loving God to create beings and allow them to be tortured forever.

401 posted on 12/14/2004 3:55:47 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Ken H
Whoa. Your question makes an assumption that is not true. I said I didn't think God sends humans to Hell forever. That's not quite the same as not believing in God.

My question made no assumptions. It was merely asking for clarification

I raised the question about the Khmer Rouge and their victims in response to post #335:

And you ignore the answers that no one is worthy to be saved.

That didn't sound like it was meant very kindly, so I presented the poster with a real life example of what his beliefs might entail. And yes, the Khmer Rouge question does seem to give people trouble.

I can see where it troubles nonbelievers who don't understand election.

So when I happen to see a poster play the Hell card, I'm going to play the Khmer card and folks will just have to deal with it or ignore my posts.

Thats fine, but you ignore the many arguments that its no problem for Judaism or Christianity. You act like theologians never considered what you raise as an issue. Its actually a rather childish objection that is brought up by the average Sunday school kid in one form or another. It is not unique. It is usually described as "Why do bad things happen to good people ?". It isn't a logical reason to dismiss the existence of God or Christianity. If it was, Christianity would have been dismissed 1,970 years ago.

I guess I could be called a Deist. I don't know the nature of God or the afterlife, but I think both exist.

How do you know God exists? more importantly, how do you know there is an afterlife. This was no evident to Hebrews and was a fairly new revelation. Its odd that you except as true part of the revelation of the Gospel and reject the rest. Very odd.

I see no reason for an all powerfully and loving God to create beings and allow them to be tortured forever.

I agree. It would be torture to exist forever with a God that one doesn't want to be obedient to. It would be like having the worst college roommate ever for eternity. Death would be preferable.

An observation. You refer to God as a loving God often. This surprised me because a deist would not ascribe such characteristics to God. Do you figure that a God could not be a loving God because he allows some to have eternal life but not everyone ?

I guess you would part ways with Judaism and Christianity at the moment Adam sinned and God presented the consequences, namely death to Adam. Your idea of a loving God would have been to accept that Adam sinned and give him a pass and just skip this whole earth thing. It is an appealing thought. The only problem I have is the chaos that would ensue in heaven where eternal beings filled with sin would make our earthly sinful lives look idyllic. Heaven would become hell.

402 posted on 12/14/2004 7:31:57 PM PST by Raycpa (Alias, VRWC_minion,)
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