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Islamist Threat to Public Schools in Columbia, South Carolina?
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Posted on 12/12/2004 6:25:43 PM PST by velocityguy

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1 posted on 12/12/2004 6:25:43 PM PST by velocityguy
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To: velocityguy

I thought you couldn't teach any religion in a public school.


2 posted on 12/12/2004 6:27:14 PM PST by xJones
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To: velocityguy

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3 posted on 12/12/2004 6:27:25 PM PST by blackeagle
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To: xJones

I thought you couldn't teach any religion in a public school.

Only Christianity is not allowed.


4 posted on 12/12/2004 6:28:38 PM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: velocityguy

BTTT


5 posted on 12/12/2004 6:31:14 PM PST by spodefly (I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: velocityguy
3. Had an “Orthodox Christian” priest speak to the class…who informed the students that all religions are based on Islam.

Sure would be interesting to know the (real) name of this "priest."

6 posted on 12/12/2004 6:31:28 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: velocityguy

a portion of the school library set aside for Muslim students to pray each day
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I thought schools decided that religon couldn't exist at school. Then I saw the Muslim part. I think I will be checking this out.


7 posted on 12/12/2004 6:31:37 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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To: xJones

Something needs to be done about this...

Where are the South Carolina Freepers?

Helloooo....


8 posted on 12/12/2004 6:31:40 PM PST by velocityguy
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To: velocityguy

Man, I would LOVE to help my sons create a pamphlet teaching people about Islam. In fact, I think I'll do just that. And it will be all true.


9 posted on 12/12/2004 6:32:38 PM PST by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: xJones

The teaching is bad enough but what about the praying-----how can it be legal?


10 posted on 12/12/2004 6:32:47 PM PST by Mears
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To: velocityguy

The classic "runnin' him out of town on a rail" oughta be revived. I'm looking up more on this from "anti-Cair" . Hope they have a website.


11 posted on 12/12/2004 6:33:41 PM PST by willyboyishere
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To: Mears

Where is the ACLU? Are they afraid of the Muslims?


12 posted on 12/12/2004 6:34:08 PM PST by xJones
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To: velocityguy

GRRRRRR..this crap is happening at Irmo High School...my alma mater!


13 posted on 12/12/2004 6:34:29 PM PST by wolficatZ (endlessly hitting "latest posts" till your fingers go numb and your arm falls off.....)
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To: crazyhorse691

Of everything in that Press report, this is what angers me....look what they are teaching to corrupt the kids' minds....

"4. Told students that the United States is a Judeo-Christian-Muslim” nation…according to the beliefs of the founding fathers"

These people need to be STOPPED preaching their stupid crap in the classrooms....when non_Islamic religious teachings in the Public Schools are not permitted.

I am in India, but I will work my btt off this morning and will phone this particular school's dumb administrator.


14 posted on 12/12/2004 6:35:34 PM PST by velocityguy
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To: velocityguy
.......a portion of the school library set aside for Muslim students to pray each day. (There are no such accommodations for other faiths.)

Someone contact the ACLU. ....they'd be furious. / sarc

15 posted on 12/12/2004 6:39:17 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: velocityguy
From - http://gaytoday.badpuppy.com/garchive/entertain/050498en.htm

"Gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender youth face harassment and violence in schools every day across the country. This is precisely why."

Kerry Lobel, NGLTF Executive director

Outrage was expressed by leaders of The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force over the cancellation of a May 7 South Carolina High School Performance by the popular duo the Indigo Girls. The school's Principal, Gerald Witt, acted because the women are lesbians.

"Gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender youth face harassment and violence in schools across the country. This is precisely why," stated Task Force executive director Kerry Lobel. "We urge Principal Witt to change his tune." The Grammy Award-winning duo, Amy Ray and Emily Saliers, were slated to give a free half-hour performance during a talent show at Irmo High School near Columbia. Irmo High School’s Principal Witt canceled the show, saying through a spokesperson it was because Saliers and Ray are lesbians. Since publicity arose about the cancellation, principal Witt is attributing the cancellation to other reasons, in addition to the sexual orientation of the performers.

"The refrain of Ray and Saliers is integrity and respect for everyone. Principal Witt certainly has a lesson or two to learn from the Indigo Girls," said Lobel.

The Indigo Girls may be going forward with other arrangements for a show in Irmo next week. The Irmo High School show was part of a series of scheduled high school performances by the Indigo Girls.

Indigo Girls & GLAAD: “Cancellation Homophobic”

The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) and the Grammy Award-winning Indigo Girls expressed deep disappointment and shock at a South Carolina high school principal's decision to cancel a performance by the group. The Indigo Girls, who since 1989 have sold close to 8 million records, were to perform for free at the school and were planning to give interviews to local journalism students following the show.

Earlier this week, Irmo High School Principal Gerald Witt canceled the concert after a number of parents complained about the openly gay duo's sexual orientation. Witt contends that it was not merely the complaints nor the duo's sexual orientation that had led him to cancel the show. According to a Knight-Ridder article, Witt cited worries about safety during the performance.

Joan M. Garry, GLAAD's Executive Director and part of the team which originally launched and developed MTV Networks in 1981 was particularly troubled that such blatant prejudice was fueled by the leader of an educational institution. "It is a travesty that a performance by the Indigo Girls--who have long exemplified service and commitment to a diverse number of important social issues--would be considered anything other than enlightening and celebratory. Instead of Mr. Witt using this opportunity to teach his students how to dismantle homophobia, he has demonstrated precisely how to promote fear and intolerance."

Emily Saliers of the Indigo Girls issued the following statement: "We are saddened and angry to hear that our show at Irmo High School has been cancelled. It is a blatant case of homophobia. The show was cancelled because we are gay. In the wake of recent violence in schools and the often bleak environment for kids which includes the cutting of school arts programs and lack of creative outlets," said Saliers, "we believe that playing free high school shows will provide a positive musical and emotional experience for high school students. Despite this particular cancellation, we will play in Columbia, SC and we'd like to thank the people there and elsewhere who support our collective message of respect and justice for all human beings."

Jennifer H. Einhorn, GLAAD's Director of Communications, stated that, "Surely Mr. Witt would not prohibit an appearance by a multi-Grammy award winning group because of their religious affiliation or ethnicity. In that regrard, this egregious and hurtful decision is one all Americans must not tolerate."

16 posted on 12/12/2004 6:39:49 PM PST by Libloather (Big Media news anchors are as worthless as male nipples...)
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To: velocityguy; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; AJ Insider; AlligatorEyes; ..

South Carolina Ping List

Add me to the ping list. Remove me from the ping list.

17 posted on 12/12/2004 6:39:52 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: velocityguy; Calpernia; Velveeta; Revel; Honestly; DAVEY CROCKETT; texasbluebell; lacylu; ...

In Russia they killed and raped the children of the school.

In America, they are using brainwashing.

The bottom line is that we loose our children.


18 posted on 12/12/2004 6:41:16 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Today, please pray for God's miracle, we are not going to make it without him.)
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To: velocityguy

Options:
1. Attend all meeting of the city council and the school board. Join both and become active in local politics.

2. Pull your kids out of public schools and start homeschooling. This pulls money out the local public schools. If enough people do this, things will change.


19 posted on 12/12/2004 6:43:31 PM PST by Bhrian
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To: SJackson; Alouette; Salem; yonif; NYer; Salvation; Prime Choice; mhking; MeekOneGOP

Ping


20 posted on 12/12/2004 6:43:56 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: velocityguy

not to mention GWB calling it a religion of peace.

..."...We saw with our own eyes the evil of radical Islam on 9-11…we’re seeing militant Islam rear its filthy head in Europe on an almost daily basis…..Islamists hell-bent on earning a place in paradise by killing “infidels”…"...

Islam is an affront to the history of mankind. Other religions and other cultures have had to come to grips with their doctrine. Islam feels itself exempt from self-inspection.

Islam has waived its virtue in America. Islam is a gutter cult, and deserves no place in public schools.


21 posted on 12/12/2004 6:46:41 PM PST by jolie560
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To: velocityguy

bump


22 posted on 12/12/2004 6:49:15 PM PST by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping. The article is about Muslim indoctrination in a S.C. school but post #16 is an article relevent to our pinglist.

The word "hurtful" hurts my ears.

Let me and ItsOurTimeNow know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


23 posted on 12/12/2004 6:50:23 PM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: little jeremiah; All
Required reading for all student and parents:


Prophet of Doom - Islam’s Terrorist Dogma, In Muhammad’s Own Words


Islam is a caustic blend of regurgitated paganism and twisted Bible stories.
Muhammad, its lone prophet, conceived his religion solely to satiate his lust for power, sex, and money.
He was a terrorist.

And if you think these conclusions are shocking, wait until you see the evidence at www.prophetofdoom.net.



Radical Islam's 'plan' to take over America - Arab-American author outlines secret 20-year strategy to undermine country

The Islamic States of America?

Misunderstanding the Enemy: the Islamic Threat and the U.S. Media

CAIR: 'Moderate' friends of terror

An Open Letter to Islamic Organizations in America

Islamic terror based on Qu’ran: ex-CIA official

Islam: This is a truthful hardhitting analysis that all of Freerepublic, the West and America needs to read and understand

A Seat at the Table: Islam Makes Inroads in Education

The Islamic Vacuum


‘Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth’

--Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998


24 posted on 12/12/2004 6:56:44 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
I imagine one reason the school has bent over backwards to accomodate the prayers in the library, is that the school is afraid of them. There is a Mosque in the small S.C. town I live in and the inhabitants are not very friendly.

I can assure you the disapproving glares of townspeople do not help, but they dress like they're in the 7th century. However, the women (and men) drive cars, go figure.

25 posted on 12/12/2004 6:57:22 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: SC Swamp Fox

Frankly I'm amazed this is tolerated anywhere, but I really didn't think it would be tolerated in the Bible Belt.

The new world: Teaching Christianity is bad. Teaching Islam is good.


26 posted on 12/12/2004 7:02:11 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists and international criminals than they ever captured or killed)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

These people that want to follow and introduce their cultures into American history and into the founding principles is how typical Islamists forcefully feeds non-Muslim societies with their rubbish garbage religion.

I went to the school website just now. I found this Mr.Arastu's particulars. I am going to call the school first thing this evening i.e early morning in USA.


27 posted on 12/12/2004 7:03:11 PM PST by velocityguy
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To: xJones
I thought you couldn't teach any religion in a public school.

You can if your threat to kill anyone attempting to prevent you from doing so is credible.

28 posted on 12/12/2004 7:04:39 PM PST by papertyger
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To: EdReform

"The only religion on earth."

It's amazing that people don't/don't want to see what the purveyors of Islam openly admit.

The history of Islamic domination, slaughter, aggression, rapine, and forced conversions is horrible.

I used to think nicely of Islam (respecting all religions) but I have come to think differently. I know that many Muslim regular people are not evil. They have been born into that culture, and according to the tenets of Islam, are not allowed under pain of death to "quit". But the teachings degrade the mind. The best Muslims are those who aren't very religious, it seems.

Every Muslim east of Saudi Arabia (as well as in other directions) is the descendent of someone who was forcibly converted, often at the point of a scimitar.


29 posted on 12/12/2004 7:05:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: backhoe; Born Conservative; SheLion; Grampa Dave; OXENinFLA; broadsword; expatguy; PsyOp; xzins

PING!


30 posted on 12/12/2004 7:07:56 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: papertyger

Would you want to be the public school official who told this group they couldn't pray? You could be next to be Van Goghed.


31 posted on 12/12/2004 7:09:11 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Would you want to be the public school official who told this group they couldn't pray? You could be next to be Van Goghed.

That's a trick question.

32 posted on 12/12/2004 7:13:17 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Bhrian
Options:

1. Attend all meeting of the city council and the school board. Join both and become active in local politics.

2. Pull your kids out of public schools and start homeschooling. This pulls money out the local public schools. If enough people do this, things will change.

3. Take your children to a Christian independent school. There are lots of them in SC. For the closest one, check the website of the SC Independent School Association. That's what I did, and I help pay the tuition by teaching high school Spanish (many parents work in different capacities at the school for a reduced tuition). At our school we have daily devotions, weekly chapel, k4-12 Bible classes... and no Islam is taught!

33 posted on 12/12/2004 7:13:24 PM PST by Former Fetus (aren't we all?)
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To: little jeremiah

We have our hands full exposing GLSEN and now we have to worry about yet another filthy evil, bald-faced liar organization, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). It never ends.


34 posted on 12/12/2004 7:15:22 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: papertyger

I'm just trying to see this issue from the school administrator's eyes. Most would like to live to enjoy their retirement.


35 posted on 12/12/2004 7:16:11 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Former Fetus

So you are suggesting that non-Muslims in this world should simply bend over and allow these violent people of the moongod aka the 72 virgin seekers take over our Public Schools? If Americans do not learn how to fight back these Islamists legally and ideologically, American society will simply die down like how the Asian societies have died down and how Eurpean societies are currently dying down, unable to fight the Islamic violence.


36 posted on 12/12/2004 7:19:49 PM PST by velocityguy
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To: EdReform
Yet another reason to homeschool.
37 posted on 12/12/2004 7:20:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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To: velocityguy
If the Muslims are allowed to proselytize at school, they will prey upon the disaffected, and marginalized students.There are students who do not fit in and are looking for a way to be different.

I don't think this has a place in the public school but the children should not have to be pawns to challenge this. It must be legally challenged.

38 posted on 12/12/2004 7:24:17 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: velocityguy
The Rage and The Pride by Oriana Fallaci

CLICK ON ABOVE IMAGE


Prophet of Doom : Islam's Terrorist Dogma in Muhammad's Own Words

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The CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS AND THE REMAKING OF WORLD ORDER

CLICK ON ABOVE IMAGE




39 posted on 12/12/2004 7:29:29 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Oh, I have no problem seeing it through the administrator's eye. What I have a problem with is thinking of it as anything but craven cowardice.

Personally, I'd regard such an attack as nothing so much as an opportunity.


40 posted on 12/12/2004 7:30:00 PM PST by papertyger
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To: The_Media_never_lie

that is why people like us that believe in common goals should fight these Islamic idiots aka 72 virgin seekers aka anti-infidels.


41 posted on 12/12/2004 7:31:04 PM PST by velocityguy
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To: velocityguy
you are suggesting that non-Muslims [...]allow these violent people of the moongod aka the 72 virgin seekers take over our Public Schools?

I didn't suggest that. But I fight my own fights, I don't use my children! Young children are impressionable and I would never consider allowing mine to be exposed to the kind of brain washing that is going on at Irmo High. It had been suggested that homeschooling would help by taking students (and money) out of the public school system. All I did was to suggest another alternative that would have the same effect, i.e. independent school education. That said, I'll do whatever I can to help stop the madness at Irmo High...

42 posted on 12/12/2004 7:36:11 PM PST by Former Fetus (aren't we all?)
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To: papertyger
I wish you had been a senior administrator in my children's public schools.

In that nihilistic, multicultarilist, liberal environment however, it would have been very hard for you to survive. I'm happy for you that you are in some other line of work. :)

Our school administrators have their work cut out for them. Sadly, the weasley ones probably have it easier than those with backbone.

43 posted on 12/12/2004 7:37:11 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Former Fetus

Okay, that makes sense! But, I mean, look at these Islamic idiots, now they are corrupting the young brains....this is outright outrageous!


44 posted on 12/12/2004 7:39:50 PM PST by velocityguy
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To: velocityguy; SC Swamp Fox
Thanks for the ping, Swamp Fox.
Velocityguy, agreed, something must be done about this.

I know public schools are a necessity for some families.
I realize it takes two incomes, sometimes three to
just 'break even' these days.

I have home schooled my son from the time he could speak.
I became a stay at home dad to do this.
We are in our eighth year as teacher/student.

Home schooling is not for everyone.
Between annual dues to SCAIHS (South Carolina Association Independent Home Schools),
HSLDF (Home School Legal Defense Fund) and text/work books,
we spend close to $1500.00/child.

Peace of mind knowing my child is well educated in all
areas, politically aware, and most of all safe from
druggies, shootings, perverts, etc... priceless.

Oh, I get that question, about my son being "anti-social",
from liberal poofs all the time. Take five
minutes with my son and ask him any question and he'll
give a point by point reply of his views. I might add
that I guarantee you'll understand him.
Yet, he's not mouthy or rude.

As for Irmo High School, sorry for their loss.
For the Yellow Jackets will lose. That school district has the very
best of all that can be offered to students, physically and materially.
I have loads of friends that graduated from Irmo High.
Many are home schoolers these days.

Look into these links for more info on SCAIHS
Be sure to check out HSLDA for court reports and defenses across the nation.

These folks have a real grasp on what it takes to educate children today to be great citizens tomorrow. If you are thinking of home schooling in SC, feel free to FReepmail me with any questions. I don't know all but I usually know where the answers are located.

45 posted on 12/12/2004 7:46:26 PM PST by uncleshag (Send the Light - Merry Christmas!)
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To: velocityguy
this is outright outrageous!

I agree 1,000%!!! This is the time for brainstorming. What can we do? Off the top of my head, I'm considering writting to the school principal and to Gov. Sandford. What about the school board? We ought to demand they fire the teacher (secret ballot if they are chicken). How about the local churches? How can we let our outrage be known?

BTW, this may be a good time to resurect the idea of doing away with the Department of Education. If schools were run at the local level only, it is hard to imagine a school board that would approve of this indoctrination...specially around here in the Bible belt. So many things we can do, so very few people willing to try!

46 posted on 12/12/2004 7:48:07 PM PST by Former Fetus (aren't we all?)
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To: Jay777

Ping


47 posted on 12/12/2004 7:51:55 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I do sympathize with your quandary. However, I do not sympathize with the administrator's quandary.

Anyone who has to soil their knees to make next months bills has sold their souls.


48 posted on 12/12/2004 7:54:29 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Former Fetus

I am going to call the offices of -
1. ACLU,
2. FoxNews Carriers, BBC, CNN
3. Alliance Defense Fund,
4. Local churches in SC,
5. The school's principal and other administrators.

I do not know how legal things are handled in America. But these are the only places I know I can phone and mail written letters.

You guys in US should try to do something before these Islamists run you all over with their Talibanistic, Islamic ideologies by corrupting your kids.

Tell me, is there any other way I or my friends here in my school can contribute to this cause?



49 posted on 12/12/2004 7:55:17 PM PST by velocityguy
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To: velocityguy

Support vouchers so you can send your kids to christian schools.


50 posted on 12/12/2004 7:58:19 PM PST by Podkayne
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