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Woman Gets Threatening Letter After Hanging Up On Telemarketer
KCRA Channel News ^ | December 8, 2004

Posted on 12/12/2004 9:10:18 PM PST by jb6

El Paso Police Investigating Phone Call

UPDATED: 8:41 AM EST December 8, 2004

A Detroit-area woman received a threatening letter in the mail after hanging up on a telemarketer calling from Texas, according to Detroit TV station WDIV.

TELEMARKETER THREAT

Video: Woman Describes Telemarketing Threat How Do You Handle Telemarketers? Read Threatening Letter

Jill Beyer, of Waterford Township, Mich., said she received the letter about one week after she refused to donate money in a recent call from a telemarketer.

"He wanted a donation for the veterans' association, which the veterans don't get that much of that money. That's why I wouldn't donate to him," Beyer said.

Beyer (pictured, left) said the man refused to take no for an answer so she hung up the phone.

"I slammed the phone very hard," Beyer said.

The letter arrived postmarked from El Paso, Texas. The first lines read, "Before you are rude to another telemarketer, you should keep in mind that he or she has your phone number and your address. Many of them live in your own state and most don't give a (expletive)! " (Read Full Letter)

"It makes me nervous. Obviously he's not playing with a full deck and even my kids are nervous," Beyer said.

El Paso police are reportedly taking the threat seriously and are searching for the person who sent the letter. Distributed by Internet Broadcasting Systems, Inc. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: crime; misc; telemarketing; threats
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1 posted on 12/12/2004 9:10:18 PM PST by jb6
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To: jb6

Be careful of a charity called the "DISABLED FIREFIGHTERS FUND" it's a scam.


2 posted on 12/12/2004 9:11:48 PM PST by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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If I'm not mistaken, many telemarketing companies use prisoners to handle their call volume. This woman is right to be worried.
3 posted on 12/12/2004 9:13:21 PM PST by rightisright (E Tan E Epi Tas)
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To: jb6

I tell telemarketers that I am sooo happy they called as no one ever calls me....I start to talk about the weather, my dog, made up health problems....I tell them I am under house arrest or I am drunk...they can't hang up fast enough!


4 posted on 12/12/2004 9:15:35 PM PST by Feiny (Say it LOUD & PROUD....MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!)
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To: jb6

I don't bother saying no. As soon as I realize its a tele-marketer I just push the off button. Its really not worth your breath.


5 posted on 12/12/2004 9:16:08 PM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: rmmcdaniell

I have an answering machine and caller ID.
I screen my calls.

If I recognize the number, I pick up the phone. If I don't, or the number is blocked, friends know to start talking to the machine, then I pick up. Otherwise people can call a thousand times and all they get is the answering machine. They don't know whether I am home or not.

I think this is such a simple solution, now that we have the technology, I don't understand why people keep letting themselves be bothered by unwanted calls.

My philosophy is that the phone is there for MY convenience, not that of others, and use it that way.


6 posted on 12/12/2004 9:24:28 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: jb6

And I'll bet her caller ID said "unknown caller"--the Bell outfits play a game of footsie. First they sell you the Caller ID, then they sell the telemarketer the means to override your Caller ID. I get calls at 2:30 and 5:00 AM from a telemarketer's fax line. My Bell company won't tell me who is calling me without my getting a subpoena...


7 posted on 12/12/2004 9:25:15 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: jb6

Well:

1. The person should NOT have written that letter.

2. I am happy to hear from telemarketers as I prefer people working rathter than stealing or taking government payments. Of course I rarely buy their products, but I certainly do NOT begrudge someone attempting to earn a living. There are afterall both unlisted numbers and no call lists.

3. I suspect again while a threatening letter was NOT right, that the woman probably was rude to the person on the call.


8 posted on 12/12/2004 9:25:31 PM PST by JLS
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To: FairOpinion

I screen my calls, too, but the ones at 5 in the morning still wake me up...


9 posted on 12/12/2004 9:26:08 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: jb6

Easily solved.

Get one of those canned compressed air horns, keep near the phone w/ear plugs. When they call ask them to hold for a moment, install plugs and blast 'em!

Hang up phone.


10 posted on 12/12/2004 9:27:49 PM PST by ChefKeith (Life is GREAT with CoCo..........NASCAR...everything else is just a game!(Except War & Love))
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To: FairOpinion

I do much the same thing. My home line is for my computer, and nothing more. I know if anyone calls me on my home phone I don't want to talk to them, because my friends and family have my cell phone number.

I was working in a doctor's office in the '80s, and a telemarketer called. When I told him he had reached a doctor's office, he called me a nasty name and HE slammed down the phone.


11 posted on 12/12/2004 9:28:06 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Snappy, witty, humerous tagline needed! Will pay in Marlboro Miles...)
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To: Mamzelle


If you get unwanted faxes, THAT you can stop. I had the same problem. But now I don't get any anymore. I collected a whole stack and send them to the FCC. Sending unsolicited faxes is strictly illegal.


Unwanted Faxes: What You Can Do
http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/unwantedfaxes.html


12 posted on 12/12/2004 9:30:20 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Mamzelle

The pages says that it's illegal to send faxes without written permission starting July 1, 2005, but that just strengthens the already existing rules. I called them, they said it is already illegal to send unsolicited faxes, and they have a form you can fill out and send it to the FCC. They do go after them.

I was getting several faxes a day, but they really did stop them.

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/unwantedfaxes.html


13 posted on 12/12/2004 9:32:33 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: ChefKeith

Careful, they can sue you for damage to their ear drum.


14 posted on 12/12/2004 9:33:13 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Theresawithanh

If that's the only thing you are using your home phone for, it may be cheaper to get a broadband connection, for about the same price.


15 posted on 12/12/2004 9:34:17 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Screw them!

Counter sue for harrasment


16 posted on 12/12/2004 9:34:31 PM PST by ChefKeith (Life is GREAT with CoCo..........NASCAR...everything else is just a game!(Except War & Love))
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To: jb6
Same story from Dec 7th thread
17 posted on 12/12/2004 9:35:30 PM PST by ASA Vet (What if there were no hypothetical questions?)
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To: FairOpinion

I don't pay for the phone line, my landlady does!


18 posted on 12/12/2004 9:38:04 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Snappy, witty, humerous tagline needed! Will pay in Marlboro Miles...)
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To: FairOpinion

We have a new Panasonic phone that has a VERBAL caller ID. Pretty Cool.


19 posted on 12/12/2004 9:39:53 PM PST by gortklattu (check out thotline dot com)
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To: FairOpinion

I do not happen to have a fax machine on that line--it just rings and I hear those "fax" sounds. I called Bell South and demanded that they tell me who was waking me up, but they told me I had to spend money on a lawyer to find out who was using Bell's lines to call MY phone.


20 posted on 12/12/2004 9:40:06 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: feinswinesuksass

I have a friend who really gives them a hard time. He'll ask them if they've met Jesus and then ask them to pray with him or he'll tell them they sound really hot and ask what they're wearing, (he'll use that one on both women and men). If someone's over at his house he'll put the conversation on speaker phone and it's absolutely hilarious.


21 posted on 12/12/2004 9:41:01 PM PST by elmer fudd
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To: FairOpinion

Umm, telephone handset speakers are incapable of producing a sufficient volume to damage your hearing.


22 posted on 12/12/2004 9:41:59 PM PST by foobeca
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To: JLS
Well: 1. The person should NOT have written that letter. 2. I am happy to hear from telemarketers as I prefer people working rathter than stealing or taking government payments. Of course I rarely buy their products, but I certainly do NOT begrudge someone attempting to earn a living. There are afterall both unlisted numbers and no call lists. 3. I suspect again while a threatening letter was NOT right, that the woman probably was rude to the person on the call.

Thank you for the definitive word on this subject.

/sarcasm off

23 posted on 12/12/2004 9:43:04 PM PST by Charlemagne on the Fox
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To: gortklattu

"VERBAL caller ID"

Those are great, you don't have to be sitting next to that phone to know who is calling.


24 posted on 12/12/2004 9:43:53 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Mamzelle

Chances are your modem has a fax capability. You may even already have fax software on your hard drive, and if not, there are plenty of fax programs you can download for free. Then you can just leave the program running at night, let it pick up and receive the fax, and voila, you'll know who's calling. Then you can file a complaint with the FCC.


25 posted on 12/12/2004 9:47:03 PM PST by Dont Mention the War (W2: Coming January 20, 2005! Be There!)
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To: feinswinesuksass

I announce that I am busy and ask them for their home phone
numbers so I can call them later on. Works every time.


26 posted on 12/12/2004 9:48:57 PM PST by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: feinswinesuksass
I tell telemarketers that I am sooo happy they called as no one ever calls me....I start to talk about the weather, my dog, made up health problems

My dad did the same thing. He was retired and had all the time in the world to screw with their heads.

27 posted on 12/12/2004 9:52:38 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: jb6
Telemarketing is just a job for many people.

I see nothing wrong in it.

We all make choices.

No one can force us to answer the phone.

28 posted on 12/12/2004 9:54:16 PM PST by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!)
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To: Hildy
Well, My sister was involved/dating a telemarketer entremanure, and this is how most of them operate.
The telemktr co. "donates" an agreed upon amount to the "charity" whose name they will be using for an agreed upon time limit.
Bottom line. The "Charity" already got paid. Your donation goes to the telemktr.

My co-writer came up with an innovative way of handling telemktrs.
When they call, lead them on, say things like Yes I am Interested, Tell me all about it. Then lay the phone down, and walk away. This usually wastes about 5 mins of their time. And as good capitalists we all know what time is.

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Vote with your Remote!

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29 posted on 12/12/2004 9:54:43 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Man, You should have seen them, kickin Edgar Allen Poe! Koo Koo Kachoo)
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To: Mamzelle
"My Bell company won't tell me who is calling me without my getting a subpoena..."

I know, isn't that the most dumbest thing you've ever heard!! So when I heard this I filed a police report and when the solicitor who was calling over and over again called again I told them what I did, they never called back. I don't know if I would have gotten a judge to issue the subpoena, I didn't have a chance to find out. If I cant tell who is calling me they don't get through. Beware the person who was calling showed a 1-800 number on my caller ID, however the number was not valid. The nerve!
30 posted on 12/12/2004 9:59:04 PM PST by myvoice
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To: ChefKeith

Besides at least you will know their identity.


31 posted on 12/12/2004 10:02:25 PM PST by myvoice
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To: jb6
You know what's even worse than telemarketers? SURVEY TAKERS! When did this become an accepted practice. A stranger calls you on the phone and expects you to take time out of your life to answer questions about a product or service you truly don't give a rat's ass about? I mean it. The last one I took was about fast food restaurants. I made the mistake of thinking, ok, I go to some, I'll do it. What the heck. 20 minutes later I said to the woman, "is this almost done" she said, (I'm not kidding) "probably another 15 minutes. I said, no, we're done now. Who in their right mind spends 1/2 hour answering questions about fast food? What do I get out of it?

I don't even take political surveys anymore.

Today they called up and said they had some questions about Health Clubs. I wanted to give them a piece of my mind, but I was tired. I just told them I wasn't interested. 1/2 hour later another person called me and I lost it. I literally screamed, LEAVE ME ALONE. What happened to the "do not call" list. ARRRGGGHHHH

32 posted on 12/12/2004 10:04:54 PM PST by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: jb6
Beyer (pictured, left) said the man refused to take no for an answer so she hung up the phone.

And now they know what she looks like.

33 posted on 12/12/2004 10:22:28 PM PST by martin_fierro (Holder of an M.A. degree in The Obvious)
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To: FairOpinion

Your Freeper name (FairOpinion) is obviously very apt. Cheers. I couldn't agree more with your telemarketing opinions.


34 posted on 12/12/2004 10:26:41 PM PST by srm913
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To: jb6

I tell these morons that I'm having sex and would like to have an orgasm; then we'll call them back later. "What's your home number? And we'll get back to you."


35 posted on 12/12/2004 10:29:30 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: srm913

I feel the telemarketers have the right to do what they do, as long as they don't engage in threatening people, of course. Some people must talk to them and buy from them, or they wouldn't stay in business.

But I personally have no interest, and value my privacy, so I feel my solution is good for me and I don't need to yell at some poor person doing a job.

I personally don't mind junk regular mail, that I can peruse or throw away at my leisure.


36 posted on 12/12/2004 10:31:54 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
You are correct. A telephone is not a right or a priveledge to anyone wanting to call you. If someone knocks on your door, you have the right to refuse entrance of that individual. In North Carolina, if someone tries to knock down your door, you have the right to shoot through the door. My Dad received so many telemarketing calls that he called the police for a trace. The found the perp and discovered that he was a criminal trying to discern when someone was home. The perp is in jail.

Of course, if I am home and a bad guy shows up, he will be a few ounces heavier with Pb fired from a Glock, Ruger or Sig... Beretta... gee, have to check the weapons inventory.

37 posted on 12/12/2004 10:35:46 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: ChefKeith

Tried that. Blew the condenser coil out of the phone.


38 posted on 12/12/2004 10:37:10 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: feinswinesuksass
I tell telemarketers that I am sooo happy they called as no one ever calls me...

Ask if they will be your friend.

39 posted on 12/12/2004 10:38:49 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: FairOpinion


Thank you for posting this. I hate receiving faxes. I call the number but they don't stop they just switch.

I have never and will never respond to a fax or a call with a consideration or a purchase. It doesn't seem to matter to any of them.

Thank you again. Now I have something that should be more effective.


40 posted on 12/12/2004 10:40:43 PM PST by Spirited
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To: Mamzelle

BellSouth sucks. Our line drops at least 15 times a day when I am on the internet conducting business. The clients are becoming really pissed. I found out that we have fiber optic lines at the street (we just built a bran new house in a private subdivision with all underground utilites) BellSouth refuses to put in the network, allowing us DSL high-speed broad-band communications.


41 posted on 12/12/2004 10:42:36 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Hildy

Unfortunately the do not call list doesn't apply to fundraising for charities and to "surveys".

But screening your calls works.

I just hope they won't stop making answering machines, now that most people just have voice mail on their phone, which of course preclude screening your calls, and caller ID-s are useful, but you might have friends calling you with their numbers blocked, or someone calling, whom you do want to talk to from a place, where your called ID will just say "unknown number" or some such.

I recommend to everyone, buy an answering machine.


42 posted on 12/12/2004 10:44:33 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: feinswinesuksass

As a home owner I am renting my phone line from the telephone corporation that owns the telephone line.

Since I am renting this line -- paying for it's use I tell the telemarketers NEVER TO CALL AGAIN or I will sue them for harassment and charge them $10,000 for each time they call me -- after all they are taking my time up!


43 posted on 12/12/2004 10:46:02 PM PST by GaryMontana (The future belongs to the bold, not the cowards who hide under rags (ragheads)!)
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To: ChefKeith

IIRC, the system automatically attenuates to 90db.

Just hang up.


44 posted on 12/12/2004 10:46:37 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Spirited

FCC really goes after them. I suggest you collect a couple of weeks worth of faxes you got, fill out the form AND send them a letter. I did that, and in a couple of weeks all faxes stopped.

Initially I would get a few faxes every now and then, but then there were more and more and more. Finally I had enough.

I think of all the marketing efforts, the faxes are the worst, because they are using up YOUR paper, YOUR toner, tie up YOUR phone/fax line, to spread their ads.

As I said, I solved the telemarketing problem easily, I don't mind junk mail, I can just toss them in a few minutes, I am not even up in arms over e-mail spam -- annoying, but not impossible to live with.

But junk faxes really do make me mad, for the reason I stated above. The nerve of people to make ME pay for THEIR advertisement!


45 posted on 12/12/2004 10:49:24 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Mamzelle

Can you turn off the ringer on your bedroom phone before you go to bed?


46 posted on 12/12/2004 10:51:35 PM PST by GretchenM (Because the wicked never stop, the righteous must work even harder.)
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To: Dont Mention the War

Do you have a couple favorite fax programs that one can download for free, that you'd recommend?


47 posted on 12/12/2004 10:53:19 PM PST by GretchenM (Because the wicked never stop, the righteous must work even harder.)
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To: myvoice
Qwest has an option to block a caller after you've answered and just after you hang up. You pick up the phone and press a combination of keys, something like *77, and then that number can't ring through to you any more. Whichever phone company you have might offer a similar feature.
48 posted on 12/12/2004 10:57:40 PM PST by GretchenM (Because the wicked never stop, the righteous must work even harder.)
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To: GretchenM
I have a home line with Quest, however there isn't a phone hooked up I only use if for my fax and my Internet. I hear the fax ring when I receive faxes, however every so often nothing is faxed. It gives me great pleasure that some telemarketer is calling my fax and getting that horrible fax sound in their ear. My line is suppose to be unlisted and I have never given it out except to businesses my husband does business with. I find cell phones is the way to go.
49 posted on 12/12/2004 11:06:23 PM PST by myvoice
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To: FairOpinion

Most junk mail have a postage paid envelope with it I put anothers junk mail in it a send it off. Dont have anything to put in them send leaves or gum wrappers whatever.


50 posted on 12/12/2004 11:20:13 PM PST by bikerman
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