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The trouble with hate crimes: Joseph Farah exposes dark underbelly of homosexual lifestyle
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Monday, December 13, 2004 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 12/12/2004 11:36:48 PM PST by JohnHuang2

Monday, December 13, 2004


between the lines Joseph Farah
The trouble with hate crimes

Posted: December 13, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Editor's note: Parent's are advised that the following column contains information that may not be appropriate for children.

By Joseph Farah


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

His parents thought he was working as a hair stylist on weekends.

But when Prairie Grove, Ark., police responded to a 911 emergency call at 5 a.m., Sept. 26, 1999, they found 13-year-old Jesse Dirkhising on the floor, unconscious, near death, one of his wrists bound with duct tape.

His genitals and abdomen were covered with feces. His mouth was blue. He had a weak pulse, but did not appear to be breathing.

Paramedics took Jesse to the emergency room where he was pronounced dead at 5:30 a.m.

During police questioning, Joshua Brown, 22 explained that he and Jesse frequently tied each other up, though not for sexual purposes. But on this one occasion, he said, he decided to sneak up on the boy, tie his hands behind his back, shove underwear in his mouth and bind him with duct tape. He then placed a T-shirt over the boy's head, but checked to ensure his nostrils were not blocked.

He placed belts around Jesse's knees and ankles to hold his legs together. He then untied his wrists and secured them to opposite sides of the mattress. He positioned Jesse on his stomach, placing pillows under him before penetrating his anus with various items, including three fingers of his hand, his penis, a cucumber, a sausage and a douche bottle. Brown told police he also prepared and administered an enema for the victim, using his own urine as a liquid.

Brown then positioned a cucumber so that it was slightly penetrating Jesse's anus and secured it with tape. He went to the kitchen where he took a lunch break from his fun and games. When he returned to the bedroom, he found Jesse was not breathing. Brown says he pulled the T-shirt off Jesse's head, cut the tape and a bandana used to secure his gag and removed the underwear from his mouth.

A search of the premises later turned up numerous small green pills, various forms of prescription medicine, including the controlled substance amitryptilene, a heavy sedative used to treat depression. Two cucumbers, one covered in petroleum jelly, the other in feces were found in the bedroom. A tube-shaped sausage, a crushed banana and a plastic disposable douche bottle with applicator secured in place with duct tape were found among numerous items used in bondage – belts, more duct tape, strapping tape, handcuffs, nylon rope, a rubber jump rope and electrical cord.

In the living room, detectives found a computer and related equipment still running. When the monitor was turned on, a program titled, "Medical Drug Reference 4.0," was running. A note written to "Baby" was found. "Baby," detectives learned, was a term of endearment David Don Carpenter, 38, used to refer to Brown, his live-in lover. The note listed three types of prescription pills, advice on forcing someone to take them, positioning pillows beneath a male subject in a certain way and a threat to sexually assault someone for the next 14 hours. The note included a diagram depicting a person on a bed, face down, bound in tape.

The two men raped Jesse at least six times.

Why am I recounting a 5-year-old police blotter story from Arkansas?

I was reminded of this haunting story recently when ABC News' "20/20" exploded the myth, once and for all, that Matthew Shephard's Wyoming murder a year earlier was a "hate crime" based on his homosexuality, one perpetrated, aided and abetted by religious zealots in the Christian Coalition, the Family Research Council and Focus on the Family.

Shephard's murder was a national sensation, the impetus for special-circumstance "hate-crime" legislation from coast to coast – even though robbery appeared to be the motive all along.

But the story of Jesse Dirkhising never made more than a ripple in the national news. I know. I broke the first national coverage of the murder – and, I was equated with David Duke by the Washington Post ombudsman for doing so.

I wonder why one death was so nationally significant and the other wasn't? I wonder why one death led to new laws being written and the other didn't? I wonder if it could have anything to do with the fact that the perpetrators of the Dirkhising murder were members of a special class of people we're told deserve extra government privileges and recognition? I wonder if it could have anything to do with the fact that the case illustrates so accurately the dark underbelly of the homosexual lifestyle – the part the elite media don't want you to see?

Remember how the nation stood riveted to the details of a hideous murder of Matthew Shephard? Never mind that the crime had little or nothing to do with the victim's sexual proclivities. Uh-uh. That didn't matter. This was a hate crime. New laws were needed. New brainwashing programs must be introduced into the schools. New sensitivity outreach projects were required by all media outlets. President Clinton sounded off. Attorney General Janet Reno chimed in.

And then there was Jesse Dirkhising. There was no hand wringing, no candlelight marches, no national news coverage for the 13-year-old victim of homosexual rape and murder. No presidential proclamations – even though the heinous crime took place in Clinton's home state.

Jesse Dirkhising was brutally raped, tortured and murdered – for fun, for thrills, for the hell of it, because it felt good, maybe even because a certain politically protected lifestyle has been elevated to virtual sainthood.

The real hate crime is that more Jesse Dirkhisings are being victimized every day – and no one seems to care. Little boys are raped and abused and murdered by psychopathic predators – and somehow that's not considered "hateful."

The more we tolerate, celebrate and condone the "alternative lifestyles" that bring us such horrors, the more of these horrors we'll see – or, thanks to the cover-up artists in the elite media, won't see.




TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathpenalthy; dirkhising; diversity; farah; gaytrolldolls; hatecrime; homosexualagenda; jesse; jessedirkhising; matthewshephard; multiculturalism; perverts; sodoimites; sodomites
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1 posted on 12/12/2004 11:36:48 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
I have sent this story to every paper I know of and have never gotten a response from any of them. SAD SAD SAD
2 posted on 12/12/2004 11:42:53 PM PST by SweetCaroline (Give thanks to the GOD of heaven, for His mercy and loving kindness are forever!!)
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To: JohnHuang2
"maybe even because a certain politically protected lifestyle has been elevated to virtual sainthood."

Some aboriginal cultures venerate them as the "holy ones".

3 posted on 12/12/2004 11:47:23 PM PST by freedom9
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To: SweetCaroline

Sad, but not unexpected.


4 posted on 12/12/2004 11:48:42 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2

You forgot the "May make even adults sick at their stomachs" alert!

Unfortunately, much discussion of homosexuality is sanitized beyond belief. Every homosexual relation is a loving relation betwen partners committed for life. The bathhouses and brutality that often accompany homosexual behavior is removed. Heck, homosexuals on TV never even kiss or fondle each other!


5 posted on 12/12/2004 11:51:53 PM PST by Mr Rogers
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To: JohnHuang2
Shephard's murder was a national sensation, the impetus for special-circumstance "hate-crime" legislation from coast to coast – even though robbery appeared to be the motive all along.

Robberies generally don't end up with the victim tortured to death.

Q.: What is a "hate crime?" Aren't all crimes based on "hate?"

A: Of course not. What a stupid thing to say. Go take your stupid pills Mr. stupid. That answer wasn't even based on hate, it was based on contempt. Crimes can be done out of desperation, thrill-seeking, greed, love--many things other than hate. Duh.

Q: Well, why should "hate crimes" be punished more than other crimes?

A: Because campaigns of terrorist-style violence against a group in our society is not something we should tolerate. It is worse if a crime is committed as part of a larger group of crimes committed for some hateful end (such as wiping out a group of people).

Hate crimes are much like international terrorism rather than say, international drug dealing. That's another crime that's not committed out of "hate!"

It's almost shocking how hateful Matthew Shepard's detractors are. Almost, but then, it's not surprising at all when you consider who they are.

6 posted on 12/13/2004 12:02:40 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: JohnHuang2; little jeremiah
"The more we tolerate, celebrate and condone the "alternative lifestyles" that bring us such horrors, the more of these horrors we'll see – or, thanks to the cover-up artists in the elite media, won't see".

Repeat as often as necessary. If we don't The truth will never be told.

7 posted on 12/13/2004 12:11:25 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: xm177e2

"..Go take your stupid pills Mr. stupid..."

Uh... ><


8 posted on 12/13/2004 12:13:01 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
"It's almost shocking how hateful Matthew Shepard's detractors are. Almost, but then, it's not surprising at all when you consider who they are."

WTF is that supposed to mean?

9 posted on 12/13/2004 12:16:37 AM PST by MonroeDNA (I feel more comfortable with Soviet intellectuals than I do with American businessmen. --Soros)
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To: MonroeDNA; xm177e2

xm177e2 Typed it, why don't you ask him/her?


10 posted on 12/13/2004 1:28:53 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: MonroeDNA
The word "Detractors" Isn't in the dictionary. Clicl spell check to correct then click "look up" to try your search again.. ROFL!

Beats me.

11 posted on 12/13/2004 1:37:05 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

You know what, there are demented heterosexual killers out there to. You can't paint a whole group of people for what a few do.

As far as hate crimes legislation goes, we already have degrees on murder. If I make an elaborate plan to kill you I will be charged with 1st degree murder. If you and I get into an argument and then in the heat of it I pick up a bat and smash your head in it is second degree murder, and so on. I think society should punish someone harder when they are trying to terrorize a whole segment of people.

In fact to my knowledge the first person charged with a hate crime was a black in pittsburg who shot a white guy that lived in his apartment building. He was making racial comments about the person that other people overheard and when they searched his apartment found alot of black power, kill whitey crap.


12 posted on 12/13/2004 2:59:14 AM PST by armordog99
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To: JohnHuang2
Ask the media what ever happened to Robert Royce Eubanks.

He's the member of the Lawrence v. Texas case that the media ignored. (He was the abused lover who place the hoaxed phone call).

13 posted on 12/13/2004 3:07:08 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
he word "Detractors" Isn't in the dictionary.

Detractors are for deplance.

14 posted on 12/13/2004 3:12:48 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: MonroeDNA
WTF is that supposed to mean?

It means, Matthew Shepard was brutally murdered because he was a homosexual.

Some people hate homosexuals sooooo much, that they are going out of their way to say mean things about him, or to play down the horror of what happened to him.

Matthew Shepard didn't rape and murder Jesse Dirkhising, it's abominable to tie him to that crime. And Farah does it so you won't have sympathy for the victim of a similarly brutal murder.

Why doesn't Farah include the details of what Shepard suffered, when he writes these articles? Ask yourself that. Because to Joe Farah, Matthew Shepard was a subhuman and what he suffered doesn't matter at all. His suffering didn't matter at all. Which is why it's okay to lie about it (and claim it was the result of a robbery-gone-wrong).

I look at that, and I see hate.

15 posted on 12/13/2004 3:21:18 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: xm177e2

I just LOVE to read about the homosexual lifestyle. Makes me want to change my registration to Democrat, so I can support it with every fiber in my body.


16 posted on 12/13/2004 3:23:27 AM PST by ReadyNow
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To: JohnHuang2

The point of hate crime laws is to allow homosexuals proposition and/or seduce anyone they please without fear of getting the snot kicked out of them.


17 posted on 12/13/2004 3:32:56 AM PST by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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To: armordog99
I think society should punish someone harder when they are trying to terrorize a whole segment of people.

There is no "hate crime" provisions protecting people who are, say Republican, from violence of say Democrats. There were fights, shootings, arson, and swastika graffiti directed at Republicans this year. NONE would qualify as a hate crime (not even with the swastika since it was not a minority being targeted and a minority targeting members of the same minority also would not be ruled a hate crime).

I understand protecting race, creed/religion, color, nationality, etc. and even man/woman but there is NO basis for "special protection" of followers of specific sexual fetishes. "Transvestites" are protected under homosexual hate crime descriptions. There is no "wear the clothes of the opposite sex" gene. We are born naked. It is all cultural environment and mental disorder to have a desire to dress as a member of the opposite sex.

You have the right to practice whatever religion that you want. You have the same right to follow whatever politics that you want. Most sexual acts have been legalized by the Supreme Court decision (although prostitution and other acts in private between consenting adults are STILL illegal) so some would say that you have the right to follow whatever sexual fetish that you want.

Why are sex acts protected as religion is when political persuasion is not? If someone is denied a job because he is a conservative, isn't this as bad as someone being turned down for a job because he is a homosexual?

18 posted on 12/13/2004 3:33:41 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: JohnHuang2
They are truly evil and as the Lord said:
"You shall not lie with a male as with a women. It is an abomination." Lav 18:22 Judgment and condemnation is for the evil they inflict.
19 posted on 12/13/2004 3:38:13 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: armordog99

True, but murder is still murder no mater what degree you use.


20 posted on 12/13/2004 3:41:44 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: xm177e2
Why doesn't Farah include the details of what Shepard suffered, when he writes these articles?

Because, Thats not what the man is trying to do at all, The fact is two boys were murdered and the news media coverage of the Shepard case rivaled that of 9/11/01 while on the other hand, coverage of the Dirkhising case is swept under the rug(so as to not shed a bad light on homosexual behavior) and ignored. See the difference? Thats the scope of the mans message.

Because to Joe Farah, Matthew Shepard was a subhuman and what he suffered doesn't matter at all. His suffering didn't matter at all.

You got the story backwards, Seems like Jessies death and suffering is the one that doesn't matter at all.

BTW If you had to choose to die like either one of these boys, Tell us which way would you choose to die? Like Matthew? Or like Jessie? Additionally, Why should one get national hero status with full media blitz and the other be totally IGNORED?

21 posted on 12/13/2004 3:45:25 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: xm177e2

What is it about the 20/20 report that you dispute?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1280398/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1288709/posts

Why is it okay to associate an assault on a homosexual with everyone who speaks out against homosexuality? Do you not believe that people can hate the sin but love the sinner?


22 posted on 12/13/2004 3:45:36 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: xm177e2

Robberies generally don't end up with the victim tortured to death.






Frail victim tortured by drug fiends
TWO drug-crazed thugs systematically tortured a robbery victim during a 16-hour terror ordeal.

Their frail 61-year-old victim was sadistically beaten, had boiling water poured over his legs and a bullet shoved in his ear by one of the attackers who threatened to heat it to see if it exploded.

Colin McCormack was also bound and gagged and threatened with a knife before the couple ransacked his home.


NZ backpacker tortured for 16 hours

For 16 hours, a 19-year-old New Zealand backpacker - who only recently arrived in Australia - was tied to a chair in a warehouse and tortured, raped, assaulted and burnt with cigarettes. Then his assailants robbed him.


Woman raped, tortured
Decatur police seek abduction suspects

Three armed suspects abducted, raped, tortured and shot a Decatur woman after forcing the car in which she was riding off the street, police said.


Domestic Abuser Turns Sadistic

The victim (female, 22) was bound and gagged by the her ex-boyfriend (male, 24) The suspect beat and tortured the victim with a hot iron. Victim escaped when the suspect left the room to make a phone call.


THREE CONVICTED FELONS SENTENCED TO MORE THAN 700 YEARS IN PRISON FOR BRUTAL KIDNAPPING AND ROBBERY (JULY 24, 2003)
TWO CO-DEFENDANTS CONVICTED LAST YEAR, ALL FIVE SENTENCED TO 1,223 YEARS IN PRISON

MEMPHIS, TN – Criminal Court Judge Joseph B. Dailey today sentenced three men to more than 700 years in prison for a brutal kidnapping and robbery involving seven victims.

On June 30, a jury returned verdicts of guilty as charged against Jevon Bryant, 28, and Keith Ezell, 21, for seven counts of especially aggravated kidnapping and four counts of aggravated robbery. Bryant was also found guilty for being a convicted felon in possession of a handgun. Torrez Talley, 22, was found guilty on five counts of especially aggravated kidnapping and four counts of aggravated robbery.


Jones was electrocuted for the murders of Graham and Myra Adkins in their Charles City home. He knew the Adkins couple, who were in their late 70s, through their son.

On May 13, 1983, Jones disguised himself and hitchhiked to Charles City. He knocked on the Adkins' door and identified himself as an undercover police officer who was looking for missing children. Once inside the house, he shot and killed Adkins, then bound and gagged his wife.

Jones stuffed Mrs. Adkins in a closet, shot her in the head and poured kerosene on her while she was still alive. He blasted open a bedroom safe and stole the couple's life savings of more than $30,000, then set the house on fire in an attempt to hide his crimes.


In July, 1983, Edmonds murdered Elliott, a grocer in the City of Danville during a robbery. Elliot was first gagged, then stabbed in the neck with a knife and hit in the head with a brick by Edmonds. The robbery netted $40 for Edmonds and Elliot was left behind the counter by the cash register, where he bled to death from his injuries.


Walter Mickens Jr. sexually assaulted 17-year-old Timothy Hall, stabbed him 143 times and left him on a dirty mattress in an abandoned building along the James River in Newport News in 1992.

Mickens had been convicted in 1974 of robbery and sodomy, imprisoned, paroled, then convicted again in 1980 of robbery and sodomy.


In February 1998, James Edward Reid was sentenced to death for the capital murder, attempted rape, and attempted robbery of 87 year old Annie V. Lester in her home in Christiansburg in October, 1996. Lester was beaten over the head with a can of condensed milk and stabbed 22 times with scissors. Reid was 51 years old at the time of the crime.


Once inside, Shannon Dale then discovered that suspects 2, 3, and 4 had surreptitiously entered the home through another entrance, and were already in the course of accosting Freda Dale, his 89-year-old wife. Suspects then bound, gagged and forced both victims to the floor. The four suspects then proceeded to ransack the residence in search of cash money.

Shannon Dale was severely assaulted and tortured by the actors seeking the location of the victim's money. Freda Dale (Wife) died at the scene as a result of a heart attack caused by the trauma incurred from the attack. Shannon Dale was hospitalized as a result of the severe injuries he received.


23 posted on 12/13/2004 3:57:22 AM PST by visualops (It's easier to build a child than repair an adult.)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

And I recall that elderly Christian who was murdered in
Chicago because she thought she had a free exercise right
to explain to a homosexual what the Bible says about his
choice of lifestyle. What was "unnatural" when the Apostle
Paul wrot eto the Believers at Rome is just as "unnatural"
today. The product of Lust--that does not honor God.


24 posted on 12/13/2004 4:04:14 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: armordog99

As Martin Luther King Jrs neice so aptly noted some years
ago --it is wrong to compare sexual behavior to civil rights. Her father and her uncle were murdered because they
were black. No appologies to Michael Jackson--never met any
black who successfully changed the color of their skin.
Never met any homosexual who was ever treated the way blacks were treated--abused just because of the color of
their skin. M.S. was not murdered because he was "Gay".
Not murdered to attack his race.I've known too many who
were not homosexual ,but decided they were,Known too many who thought they had been born that way but decided they were not.


25 posted on 12/13/2004 4:13:59 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: xm177e2

M.S. was NOT murdered "because he was "gay". Were you asleep
when ABC interviewed the men who were there -who murdered
the lost boy? Meth and a lifestyle consistant with drug
abuse is what was behind the murder. That M.S. tried to
parlay sex for drugs was consistant with a favored practice
of those decieved by that lifestyle of self and social
destruction. Had it not been for drug abuse--and a stupid
confusion on the cruisers part--thinking sex and gay sex
would convert the druggies to his lifestyle is whatled to
that brutality.Why we need continue the War on drugs.Why
we do not need special class protection for a chosen lifestyle of self destruction.


26 posted on 12/13/2004 4:22:10 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

It's very much media-wise like the Hmong in Michigan who murdered six white people in the woods two weeks ago. One of them an unarmed woman.

If the Hmong were white and his vitims black. The media would be alllllll over it!

If the Hmong were black and the vitims white, the media would ignore it. As it has the original story.

The media has steadfastly ignored this heinous gay on gay crime. For fear of showing its darker, increasingly more dangerous side.

Jack.


27 posted on 12/13/2004 4:25:41 AM PST by Jack Deth (When In Doubt.... Empty The Magazine!)
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To: StonyBurk
And I recall that elderly Christian who was murdered in Chicago because she thought she had a free exercise right to explain to a homosexual what the Bible says about his choice of lifestyle.

I'd wager it would be safe to say that that case was not prosecuted as a "hate crime" or given full attention national media coverage.

28 posted on 12/13/2004 4:44:25 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: SweetCaroline

Good idea! I believe it that they didn't respond. Probably many of the media are not only liberal but also......


29 posted on 12/13/2004 4:46:19 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: Nightshift

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30 posted on 12/13/2004 4:46:38 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: weegee

I agree with you that people should not be able to discriminate because of someones chosen political views. There was a case at my college were a lady working in admissions made some statements at a KKK rally. The university was going to fire her and such. However she was never fired because they could not prove that she ever did anything wrong at work.

I believe that two or more consenting adults have the right to do whatever they want in the privacy of their own home. You have the right to think what they are doing is wrong, sinful, etc. However, this does not allow you to beat the crap out of two men or woman kissing because you don't like it. And yes that has happened.


31 posted on 12/13/2004 5:51:33 AM PST by armordog99
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To: armordog99

White people get beat up for entering minority neighborhoods all the time. Sometimes the victims are blamed (just watch Cops) when they are asked "what were you doing over here?"

It is wrong to paint everyone who opposes homosexuality as being gay bashers guilty of assault or condoning violence.


32 posted on 12/13/2004 5:55:57 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Jack Deth

Now I agree with you completely on that one. The MSM seems to have a script they go by, white on any minority crime; front-page, minority on white crime; tiny print on last page. It is completely biased. I've always wondered if the liberals in the media do this because it makes them feel like they are evening the score for all the years that whites got away with lynching and indiscriminately killing minorities.

Whatever the reason it is wrong and should stop. Or at least FOX news should run with stories like that poor kid.


33 posted on 12/13/2004 5:57:43 AM PST by armordog99
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To: armordog99

Why does the media ignore the history of lynching in the union movement (when people would cross a picket line)?

It doesn't advance their goals.


34 posted on 12/13/2004 5:59:56 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

You are absolutely right, and I don't mean to do that. It is what the liberals try to do, that being against homosexuality means you want to kill them. Personally I find homosexuality disgusting (except good looking bi-sexual woman) but I don't want to kill any of them.

As far as whites getting beaten up for going in the wrong neighborhood, well the attackers should be punished and charged with a hate crime on top of it if they attacked them because they were white.


35 posted on 12/13/2004 6:00:59 AM PST by armordog99
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To: weegee

Well that is a little different, that was dealing with people's livelihoods. Doesn't make it right but to me not on the same level as hating someone for their race, ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation.


36 posted on 12/13/2004 6:04:42 AM PST by armordog99
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To: armordog99

It would have to more news organizations than Fox, armordog:

At least more than the number of lawsuits ACLU and PFLAG could whip up an hour after the article airs or hits print. Screeching that those outlets were "fomenting" homophobia! (By telling the truth!)

Jack.


37 posted on 12/13/2004 6:06:06 AM PST by Jack Deth (When In Doubt.... Empty The Magazine!)
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To: armordog99

It was about intimidation. Don't cross the line.

It wasn't about money, it was about power (being able to demand changes to working conditions, benefits, protection against being let go, etc.).


38 posted on 12/13/2004 6:07:38 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: xm177e2

Man, you guys get pretty upset when the details of your deathstyle are exposed, don't you?


39 posted on 12/13/2004 6:11:26 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: armordog99

If a black man burns a cross or paints a swastika on the property of another black man (and neither is Jewish), should it be prosecuted as a hate crime?

There have been a number of these "crying wolf" cases but they generally drop off the radar when the media realizes that it is not white supremists trying to intimidate minorities.

Were the DC Sniper shootings a hate crime? Terrorism? Insanity? It was so much easier of a story for the media to cover when they were told it was white gun nuts in a van.


40 posted on 12/13/2004 6:11:31 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: armordog99

Two words to look up as well (and they are relevant to some "gay bashing" incidents): "rough trade"

Homosexuals deliberately seeking out straight men and trying to create a sexual situation (and the possiblity of violent reprisal is very real, that is what make them "rough").

It certainly was a factor in the transvestite who had sex (oral?) with some men who beat him up (killed him?) when they realized what had happened.

What is sexual assault? What is rape? What is molestation?

Some homosexual advocates on FR were unwilling to call it a sex crime yet the men did NOT consent to the situation that they found themselves in.

When heterosexuals are specifically targeted, that would be exploitation. Why is that not a hate crime?


41 posted on 12/13/2004 6:16:18 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: xm177e2
Robberies generally don't end up with the victim tortured to death.

The scumbags who murdered Sharperd were high on meth and admitted he was not treated the way he was because of his homosexuality, they simply got out of control because of the drugs.

I understand they are asking us to believe two druggie scumbags, but they are both going to spend the rest of their lives in prison, whether or not it was an actually hate crime, so why lie about the motive for what they did it?

42 posted on 12/13/2004 6:16:19 AM PST by Popman
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To: weegee

Have you ever read any of the history of that period and the way workers were treated, it was like indentured servitude. Not pretty. Of course I think we are heading back down that path with free trade. What people don't say about free trade is that we are competing with people who will work for much much less than us. The only way we can stay competitive is if our standard of living decreases.

Of course the powers that be won't come out and say this, because, I think, most americans if told that there children were not going to live as good as them, would forment another revolution.


43 posted on 12/13/2004 6:27:46 AM PST by armordog99
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To: JohnHuang2
Consider:
The Center for Disease Control (CDC) on the cumulative number of cases of AIDS through 2002 in the U.S.:           :
 AIDS CASES in US      (www.cdc.gov/hiv/stats.htm)  NUMBER  PERCENTAGE
 Male to male sexual contact   420,790   48%
 Injection drug use (172,351 men, 67,917 women)  240,268   27%
 Male to male sexual contact and injection drug use  59,719   7%
 Heterosexual contact (50,793 men, 84,835 women)  135,628   15%
 Other  20,869  2%
 Total cumulative-adults and adolescents   877,275  100%
   Also see Kissing Tied to Kaposi's sarcoma Virus
Consider:

     Excerpts from a report by the D.C. Family Research Council, citing dozens of experts and studies, including a study of some 5,200 obituaries, over five years, in 16 homosexual newspapers:

Average age of men dying w/ AIDS is 39.

The average age of homosexuals dying of all other causes, 41 (Average mafioso dies at 44).

Only 1% lived to be 65 or older, as opposed to 80% for heterosexual men.

• Other studies have found only 3% of all homosexuals are over the age of 55.

While obituaries in the gay press focus on those out of the closet, they suggest that a homosexual "life-style" may cut two or three decades off one’s life expectancy.

According the FRC report, homosexual men are 3 times as likely to have abuse problems, 14 times more likely to have syphilis, 23 times more likely to contract any venereal disease, 5500 times (550,000%) more likely to contact AIDS.

Nor is the phenomenon restricted to males: "A compilation of recent studies shows that lesbians are 19 times more likely than heterosexual women to have had syphilis, twice as likely to suffer from genital warts, and four times as likely to have scabies".

44 posted on 12/13/2004 6:28:36 AM PST by Popman
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To: weegee

I agree that is false advertising. I vaguely remember that case, and if I was on the jury, I would not have punished those men very hard.


45 posted on 12/13/2004 6:30:04 AM PST by armordog99
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To: JohnHuang2
Why is the vandalism of one church not considered a hate crime (Vandals Decapitate Jesus Statue At (Delaware) Church and another is (Cathedral Damaged In Apparent Anti-Gay Exorcism?

Hint: the answer is the headline. So anti-Christian hate crimes don't count?

In retrospect, I'm amazed the first story made the news at all.

46 posted on 12/13/2004 6:33:25 AM PST by tuesday afternoon (Everything happens for a reason. - 40 and 43)
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To: JohnHuang2
I wonder why one death was so nationally significant and the other wasn't? ... I wonder if it could have anything to do with the fact that the case illustrates so accurately the dark underbelly of the homosexual lifestyle – the part the elite media don't want you to see?

From After the Ball, a homosexual strategy book:

Nevertheless, not all talk about homosexuality is helpful. "And when we say talk about homosexuality, we mean just that. In the early stages of the campaign, the public should not be shocked and repelled by premature exposure to homosexual behavior itself. Instead, the imagery of sex per se should be downplayed, and the issue of gay rights reduced, as far as possible, to an abstract social question."
The media couldn't possibly be in on this, could they?
47 posted on 12/13/2004 6:42:48 AM PST by tuesday afternoon (Everything happens for a reason. - 40 and 43)
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To: DirtyHarryY2K
The word "Detractors" Isn't in the dictionary"

What dictionary are you looking at? I've used spell check many times and at times a word that does exist in a dictionary isn't programed into the spell check. Detract/detractor is another.

Detract.Vt "To decline,depreciate, to draw away, belittle, disparage.detractor n.."

Websters New World Dictionary, 1994 page 376.

48 posted on 12/13/2004 7:31:39 AM PST by Mikey (Freedom isn't free, but slavery is.)
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To: weegee
Were the DC Sniper shootings a hate crime?

That' right! Didn't take very long for that to drop off the edge of the earth after the lamestream media learned it was blacks that committed the crime. Had the tables been turned Dear Lord! We would never hear the end of it.

49 posted on 12/13/2004 7:47:47 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping. It is a graphic, disturbing read. Anyone who does not know the details of Jesse Dirkhising's murder should read it, not near any mealtime.

Excellent article by Joseph Farah, and good comments on the thread as well.

Just recently the murderers of Matthew Shepard admitted that they murdered him because they were tweated on meth, not because Shepard was homosexual, and it was a robbery gone bad. They were told to remain silent about that in order to obtain their plea bargain.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


50 posted on 12/13/2004 9:13:34 AM PST by little jeremiah (What would happen if everyone decided their own "right and wrong"?)
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