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Bush Wins, Again (LA Slimes editorial)
LA Times ^ | December 13, 2004

Posted on 12/13/2004 2:01:47 AM PST by RWR8189

And you thought you were done with the 2004 election. Today the electoral college formally meets to reelect George W. Bush as president. Barring any last-minute surprises, the vote should be 286 for Bush, 252 for John Kerry.

This ratification will elicit yawns instead of the outrage it did in 2000, when the electoral college went for the loser of the popular vote. But don't think 2000 was such an anomaly. The country barely dodged a bullet this time around. Had 59,388 Ohioans switched from Bush to Kerry, 2004 would have repeated the acidic result of the electoral college winner — the next president — being the popular-vote loser. This time the travesty would have been even greater, as Kerry would have been sworn in despite receiving 3.3 million fewer votes than Bush, who received 543,895 votes fewer than Gore in 2000.

We have often been highly critical of the Bush administration, but because of his decisive win in the popular vote, we surely are glad that he is the certified Ohio winner. Even die-hard supporters of Kerry should thank their unlucky stars that he lost Ohio, to spare the country such an undemocratic outcome.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: algoreisnotmyprez; bushvictory; bushwins; bushwinsagain; dummies; ec; electoralcollege; ev; kerrydefeat; traitorslose
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
I don't know about Scheer.....I have enough trouble trying to keep up with the leftist journalists and editorialists at the St. Petersburg Slimes (Pravda West) here in Florida, LOL.

Leni

21 posted on 12/13/2004 3:17:10 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal
Were they part of the media consortium that tried to re-count the ballots cast in the Florida panhandle...AFTER BUSH HAD WON THE STATE IN A WALK?

Oy.

Where did these people get their journalism degrees, from a Cracker Jack box?

22 posted on 12/13/2004 3:20:30 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (Why did it take me so long to come up with a new tag-line, huh?! What's up with that?)
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To: RWR8189

If only 2,682,160 Kerry voters switched to Bush in 18 states plus the District of Columbia, Bush would have won the electoral college 538-0. This is only about 2.2% of the votes, and fewer votes than Bush received in Ohio alone.

If 50,000 or fewer Kerry voters switched to Bush in each of wisconsin, delaware, hawaii, vermont, maine, oregon and rhode island, Bush would have won 331-207.

If, in addition to that, if 83,000 or fewer Kerry voters switched to Bush in each of Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, and Michigan, Bush would have won 376-162.

This would have required a mere 455,449 votes.


23 posted on 12/13/2004 3:26:37 AM PST by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

Exactly. Which is why in all the hubba bubba about OH, you will never hear Jesse Jackson, the DU tinfoil moonbats and their amen corner in the legacy media mention how much larger Bush's margin of victory could have been. And all the attention now lavished on OH would have been a footnote in the history books.


24 posted on 12/13/2004 3:35:49 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Living in the FL panhandle, there is never any need to recount votes if you are talking about a Republican. Tallahassee is the only bastion of demorats (FSU), the rest of us are military or just plain conservative. The panhandle from Pensacola to Jacksonville is 2/3 Republican.


25 posted on 12/13/2004 3:58:14 AM PST by stm
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To: goldstategop

Speaking of meaninless footnotes, Bush won a higher percentage of the popular vote than any Democrat since 1840, with the exception of LBJ, FDR, and Samuel Tilden. That's right. Samuel Tilden in 1876 got a higher percentage of the popular vote than Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, John F Kennedy, Harry Truman, Woodrow Wilson, Grover Cleveland, James Buchanan, or Franklin Pierce.

The burning question is, of course, did Samuel Tilden have a mandate?


26 posted on 12/13/2004 4:03:25 AM PST by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: goldstategop
"They complain and complain and complain. After today - good riddance to the PESTS til 2006."

When they will lose even more seats. Andy Veal Memorial clinics will be opening from coast to coast. A real "ground floor" opportunity if ever there was one. Invest now!
27 posted on 12/13/2004 4:10:02 AM PST by stm
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To: RWR8189
Had 59,388 Ohioans switched from Bush to Kerry...

Had 5,000 voters in NH kept voting for Bush, we don't even need Ohio...

28 posted on 12/13/2004 4:16:26 AM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: stm
Then perhaps it was the central corridor of the state.

I'm not too familiar with the geography of the area, to be honest.

I just remember reading several stories about how the radical libs weren't able to reconcile themselves to the fact that Bush generated a lot of support among registered Democrats in the state of Florida.

29 posted on 12/13/2004 4:21:43 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (Why did it take me so long to come up with a new tag-line, huh?! What's up with that?)
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To: RWR8189

Once again, someone should remind reporters to read the WHOLE Constitution, not just one line in the First Amendment. This is not a democracy and the President is not elected by a direct popular vote. Does Ross Perot own the LAT?


30 posted on 12/13/2004 4:21:48 AM PST by aardvark1 (Something was seared in my memory but I forgot what it was.)
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To: RWR8189
This time the travesty would have been even greater, as Kerry would have been sworn in despite receiving 3.3 million fewer votes than Bush, who received 543,895 votes fewer than Gore in 2000.

There would have been no travesty - President Bush would NOT have put the country through what algore did.

He would have returned to Crawford quietly, not whined about it.

Nor would he call for abolishing the EC.

31 posted on 12/13/2004 4:33:01 AM PST by mombonn ( ¡Viva Bush/Cheney! Dukakis and Kerry are the matching bookends of the Bush era.)
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To: RWR8189

Maybe the DUmmies don't realize there are more decent American citizens than they thought.


32 posted on 12/13/2004 4:34:15 AM PST by freekitty
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
Had 59,388 Ohioans switched from Bush to Kerry, 2004 would have repeated the acidic result of the electoral college winner — the next president — being the popular-vote loser.

Yeah. And if my grandmother had balls she'd be my grandfather.

33 posted on 12/13/2004 4:34:21 AM PST by jslade (People who are easily offended......OFFEND ME!)
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To: RWR8189
"Had 59,388 Ohioans switched from Bush to Kerry"

Yeah, and had I won the lottery, I would not be working today but instead on a monthlong trip to the Alps. And had I been born rich, I would not be stressing out over pennies. And I had I kicked my neighbors butt instead og him kicking mine when I was eight, I would not have had to contend with his bullying till I was eleven. And finally, had I worn boxers yesterday, I would not have skidmarks on the inside of my good pants.

Just felt I should share some of "woulda coulda shoulda" moments from my life ;-)

34 posted on 12/13/2004 4:36:40 AM PST by bigcheese ("They pray alot, but they still prey...")
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To: RWR8189

The LA Times whining. What else is new?


35 posted on 12/13/2004 4:36:41 AM PST by mhking (Vote for Ramblings' Journal for best conservative blog @ http://2004weblogawards.com/)
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To: stm

What does FSU have to do with Tallahassee being the "last bastion" in the panhandle. Yes, University professors, are overwhelmingly liberal, but it is the state workers there that make up the bulk of the demorat voting block. You must be a gayter.


36 posted on 12/13/2004 5:02:00 AM PST by incubus
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To: RWR8189

Also, we must all work diligently in the coming months to convince “progressives” that the Democratic Party has let them down. They must abandon the party. Their only recourse is to join and work for the Green Party moving forward. I may even register as a Green Party member to swell their voter registration rolls. Divide and conquer.

Begin with putting all known “progressives” in your sphere of influence on the Green Party mail list from their website. Great fun. Start inundating them with information now.


37 posted on 12/13/2004 5:36:50 AM PST by schaketo (http://www.gp.org/ Convince progressives to join the Green Party – Divide and conquer)
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To: RWR8189

LA Times is trying to save the Party from the lunatics demanding recounts.

If Kerry had won the electoral college and not the popular vote, they would suddenly be praising the E.C. after four years being spent undermining it.


38 posted on 12/13/2004 5:37:55 AM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas!


39 posted on 12/13/2004 5:54:24 AM PST by steve8714 (Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to all freepers.)
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To: incubus
"What does FSU have to do with Tallahassee being the "last bastion" in the panhandle. Yes, University professors, are overwhelmingly liberal, but it is the state workers there that make up the bulk of the demorat voting block. You must be a gayter."

Nope, my daughter goes to FSU.
40 posted on 12/13/2004 3:49:08 PM PST by stm
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