Tell that to her...
Posted on 12/13/2004 9:45:28 AM PST by Land_of_Lincoln_John
CAIRO, December 13 (IslamOnline.net) – A Daily Telegraph’s "repulsive" article on Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and Islam gave Muslims in Britain quite a shock, calling it a telling example of ignorance and arrogance borne by “only the most zealous of racists.”
The Muslim Association of Britain (MAB), one of the leading Muslim organizations in Britain, said the article, written by Charles Moore, was a “clear incitement to religious hatred and division.”
“What he wishes to portray as freedom of speech, will undoubtedly be carried further by some throughout society who will see this as a green light to attack Muslims physically and discriminate against them in various walks of life,” MAB said in a press release sent to IslamOnline.net.
Staunchly opposing a religious hatred law being mulled by the government, Moore claimed in his December 11 article that “the natural consequence” of such a bill if passed will be “a rise in the hatred of religion…Particularly hatred of Islam.”
However, in the course of defending his argument the Daily Telegraph writer launch an outrageous tirade against Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and Islam.
Falsehood, Skewed Interpretations
The MAB said that Moore’s article was “full of falsehoods, lies, skewed interpretations and poisonous remarks.”
He said that during the era of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) “women were treated more as property and less as autonomous beings.”
Moore cited Prophet Muhammad’s marriage to `A’shah (may Allah be pleased with her), claiming that she was only nine-year-old with an offending lead reading “Was the prophet Mohammed (sic) a pedophile?”
Dr. Muzammil H. Siddiqi, former President of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) and Director of the Islamic Society of Orange County, Garden Grove, California, told IslamOnline.net that the age of `A’shah, when she got married to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), was far from being confirmed.
“Historically, it is not confirmed that she was nine years old when she came in the household of the Prophet. There are various reports from age nine to age 24. Her maturity, knowledge, intelligence, and contributions during the life of the Prophet and afterwards all indicate that she was either an exceptional nine-year-old or must have been older than that.”
Professor Siddiqi further said that the Prophet (PBUH) was not the first suitor.
“According to many historians, Jubair ibn Mut`am proposed to her before the Prophet (PBUH). This gives an indication that `Aisha was mature enough for marriage at that age.”
“Whatever the case may be about her age, one thing is certain: she was a most compatible spouse of Prophet Muhammad. None of the contemporaries of the Prophet, his friends or foes, are reported to be surprised by this marriage or made objections to it,” Professor Siddiqi added.
The Daily Telegraph writer also wrote that in Muslim countries Christians and Jews were being treated as “second-class citizens who must pay the jiyza, a sort of poll tax, because of their beliefs” and that intolerance was the main hallmark of the Muslim faith.
However, one of the cornerstones of Islam is that “there is no compulsion in religion” as enshrined by the Noble Qur’an.
Non-Muslims under a Muslim state enjoy their full rights. A very clear example of how non-Muslim minorities were treated is that Caliph `Umar ibn Al-Khattab on his deathbed dictated a long will consisting of instructions for the next caliph.
Umar said: “I instruct you on behalf of the people who have been given protection in the name of Allah and His Prophet [i.e. the non-Muslim minorities within the Islamic state known as dhimmis]. Our covenant to them must be fulfilled, we must fight to protect them, and they must not be burdened beyond their capabilities.”
History book shows that Islam protected Jews from Christians and Eastern Christians from Roman Catholics.
In Spain under the Umayyads and in Baghdad under the Abbasid Caliphs, Christians and Jews enjoyed a freedom of religion that they did not allow each other or anyone else.
Imposing Jizyah on non-Muslims was not a kind of religious-based discrimination against them and if the word Jizyah is too offensive to non-Muslims, it can always be changed as when Al-Khattab levied the Jizyah upon the Christians of Bani Taghlib and called it sadaqah (alms) out of consideration for their feelings.
All the Jizyah amounts are to be a financial obligation placed upon those who do not have to pay the Zakah.
As the ratio of these two taxes is the same, it is obvious that the jizyah is simply a technique used by Islamic governments to make sure that everyone pays his fair share.
The Jizyah was also imposed on Muslim men who could afford to buy their way out of military service.
Since Christians joined the armies in Muslim countries they had no longer to pay Jizyah.
Not to mention that Islam came to save humanity from ignorance and oppression. Islam is not a threat to any society. Islam calls for harmony and peaceful co-existence with other religions.
It does not permit aggression, violence, injustice, or oppression. At the same time, it calls to morality, justice, tolerance, and peace.
It is in no way “a less a religion and more a magnet for psychopats and a machine for conquest,” as alleged in Moore’s article.
Ignorance
“Charles Moore wishes to be seen as someone who understands a little bit about Islam,” said Tikriti
Anas Altikriti, speaking on behalf of MAB, said Moore’s article demonstrated the fact that the writer knew nothing about this great religion and a prophet, who was ranked the first in Michael H. Hart's book The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History.
“Charles Moore wishes to be seen as someone who understands a little bit about Islam, when in fact he peddles feeble lies, misinterpretations and incredible falsehoods,” he said.
Tikriti, a member of the nascent political party Respect, said that the Daily Telegraph and its editors should have known better about Islam and Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) than to allow such “filth and drivel to adorn their pages.”
The MAB demanded, on behalf of all Muslims worldwide, the immediate dismissal of Moore from the British daily and a full retraction and apology from the paper’s editors “to not only Muslims, but to followers of all faiths, whom Moore believes should welcome attacks on them, their beliefs and their revered figures.”
Muslim campaigns to counter anti-Islam figures in Britain paid off recently, thanks to the growing influence of the Muslim community and a government campaign against racial hatred.
Last month, Barclays, Britain's third-biggest bank which has a significant number of Muslim clients, has closed the British National Party's accounts for anti-Islam and racist remarks.
In January, the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) lodged a complaint with the Press Complaints Commission (PCC) and the BBC urging robust disciplinary action against columnist and presenter Robert Kilroy-Silk.
Thanks to an immediate Muslim action, the BBC suspended the presenter's morning show pending an investigation, while Kilroy-Silk offered an apology over describing Arabs as “suicide bombers, limb amputators, women repressors.”
Is it only Mr Bean who resists this new religious intolerance?
Key sentence: " It says a good deal about the quality of churchmen and politicians in Britain that the most prominent opponent of the Bill is Mr Bean. The Archbishop of Canterbury is more or less invisible. The Government is on the side of repression."
Their response is the best argument against the law restricting free speech imaginable.
...one of the cornerstones of Islam is that “there is no compulsion in religion”.
Who will be the "Cutting Edge Artist" who will exhibit "The Prophet" in a bottle of urine?
Yet another British ping!
I bet that will be Michael Jackson's line of defense.
History books also show that Islam threw the Jews out of their historic homes in the Hijaz shortly after taking over there. History books also show that "convert or die" is not supposed to be applied to "peoples of the Book," i.e. Christians and Jews. This is of little comfort to those Christians and Jews who have been killed in practice. Real life's a b!tch.
Unlike the religious hatred and satanic filth that's preached in the mosques, right?
Riiiiiiiiiight.
If the article on Mohhamed is "repulsive," then it must be accurate!
Yeah. NOW they are outraged. Where was their voice during the rash of beheadings?
Tell that to her...
"Non-Muslims under a Muslim state enjoy their full rights."
This is simply delusional.
Christians Muslim countries = YOURE DEAD BY A DRIVE BY CAR BOMB...
WARNING: This is a high volume ping list
Whichever "artist" that has a death wish.
Hey muslims your 'religion' always has been and always WILL BE awash in blood. You are the scourge of HUMANITY!
Oh, well, if she was an exceptional nine-year-old, how could he resist?
WHY
are the terms
Deadly Blast
and
Muslims
so often in the same sentence?
In modern terms how else can marriage to a 9 year old be described?
I am quite certain there is some historical context that must be applied, many rulers were known to wed multiple brides, many of them young. However, if we must apply 'context' to this element, must we not also apply 'context' to other elements of his teachings?
It cannot be both ways. The Quran is either pure or it must be interpreted...
"Islam is", Khataw preaches, "a peaceful religion that is focused on charity and goodwill toward others."
"Not to mention that Islam came to save humanity from ignorance and oppression. Islam is not a threat to any society. Islam calls for harmony and peaceful co-existence with other religions."
"It does not permit aggression, violence, injustice, or oppression. At the same time, it calls to morality, justice, tolerance, and peace."
No, it's not. I won't go into *what it is*, as I'd probably get in trouble... aw, what the heck:
Islam, The Cult of Murder™.
Islam, The Cult of Terror™.
Islam, The Cult of Boy-Buggering™.
Islam, The Cult of Women-Chattelling™.
Islam, The Cult of Horror™.
Islam, The Cult of Rape™.
Islam, The Cult of Ritual Killing™.
Islam, The Cult of Beheading™.
Islam, The Cult of Deviants™.
Islam, The Cult of Hate™.
Islam, The Cult of Lies™.
Islam, The Cult of Female Mutilation™.
Islam, The Cult of Death™.
Islam, The Cult of Christian & Jew Killing™.
Islam, The Cult of Infidel Murder™.
Islam, The Cult of The Mentally-Ill™.
Islam, the Cult of Evil™.
Islam, the Cult of Poverty™.
Islam, the Cult of Illiteracy™.
Islam, the Religion of Peace™, and THEY'LL KILL YOU TO PROVE IT!
"Not to mention that Islam came to save humanity from ignorance and oppression." Sure, with fire and sword.
LoL! 'nuff said.
I can title the work... (PBUH) or P!ss be upon him.
Yeh, you KNOW that any artist that portrayed the fake prophet in this way would have a fatwa issued on them immediately.
Then the first 'good' muslim that came across them could kill them in good conscience.
btttttttt
Actually, MM, just exhibiting a portrait of the Prophet is enough to incite these fellas, as they view displaying the likeness of M. as icon worship. The US Supreme Court building has friezes of various lawgivers thru history: Charlemagne, King David and Muhammaded, among others. It's not high on their busy agenda, but getting rid of that frieze is on that agenda of Muslims here.
Call it anything you want, just pay up Christian swine!
So, putting a big, inflatable Muhammed on top of the gas station across the street from the local mosque might get them riled up? :)
Right. But we didn't come up with that idea, did we?
Funny you should ask that, I've always thought that the PBUH they say after Prophet Muhammad meant "Pi$$ Be Upon Him".
Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'
Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).
bttt!
Oh honey, puleeeeeeeze ping!
"Non-Muslims under a Muslim state enjoy their full rights. A very clear example of how non-Muslim minorities were treated is that Caliph `Umar ibn Al-Khattab on his deathbed dictated a long will consisting of instructions for the next caliph. ... Umar said: “I instruct you on behalf of the people who have been given protection in the name of Allah and His Prophet [i.e. the non-Muslim minorities within the Islamic state known as dhimmis]. Our covenant to them must be fulfilled, we must fight to protect them, and they must not be burdened beyond their capabilities.” .... History book shows that Islam protected Jews from Christians and Eastern Christians from Roman Catholics. In Spain under the Umayyads and in Baghdad under the Abbasid Caliphs, Christians and Jews enjoyed a freedom of religion that they did not allow each other or anyone else. Imposing Jizyah on non-Muslims was not a kind of religious-based discrimination against them and if the word Jizyah is too offensive to non-Muslims, it can always be changed as when Al-Khattab levied the Jizyah upon the Christians of Bani Taghlib and called it sadaqah (alms) out of consideration for their feelings. All the Jizyah amounts are to be a financial obligation placed upon those who do not have to pay the Zakah. As the ratio of these two taxes is the same, it is obvious that the jizyah is simply a technique used by Islamic governments to make sure that everyone pays his fair share. ... Since Christians joined the armies in Muslim countries they had no longer to pay Jizyah."
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Not to mention that Islam came to save humanity from ignorance and oppression. Islam is not a threat to any society. Islam calls for harmony and peaceful co-existence with other religions. It does not permit aggression, violence, injustice, or oppression. At the same time, it calls to morality, justice, tolerance, and peace."
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Tell that to us "dhimmis", MAB spokesfool!
ROFL! ROFL!
Those guys at the MAB must be smoking some very potent weed! Someone should tell them that most of us like the story about Goldilocks a lot better!
MAB = Messhugenneh Airheads in Britain
I noticed right away that the SMs* did not provide a link to the article.
*SM©= Sweet Muslims
bump
Your citations illustrate how Muslims plead discrimination while being conveniently "ignorant" of the plain facts. Once a liar has been exposed, it is normal behavior to treat every future utterance with skepticism. Islam officially condones lying in the form of al Taqiyyah. A lie that gives a Muslim advantage over a non-Muslim is considered OK by their ethical code.
I would guess the answer is yes. She is covering her eyes with her right hand.
Yep.
probably so. and you can see the shot bouncing off the ground in front of the other one (having passed through, no doubt).
what a fun group of people.
I believe they were married when she was five, and consumated the marriage when she was the ripe old age of nine.
That's the Taliban in action.
She was six. I stand corrected.
Does anyone know of any other site for downloading this video? It was seen around the world and is listed at www.rawa.org, but has been blocked from downloading, along with other examples of brutal cultural practices.
Any cult or religion which condones the murder of innocent people (Such as Islam) deserves all the invective it receives......
And there is no mistake that rank and file Muslims have a green light to do so from their religious leaders who remain essentially silent while the horrors go on.
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