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1 posted on 12/13/2004 9:52:00 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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Sexuality is highly fluid ...
Bada-bing ...
37 posted on 12/13/2004 10:25:12 AM PST by eastsider
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Camille Paglia: " We should be honest enough to consider whether homosexuality may not indeed be a pausing at the prepubscent stage where children anxiously band together bt gender...current gay cant insists that homosexuality is 'not a choice'; that no one would choose to be gay in a homophobic society. But there is an element of choice in all behavior, sexual or otherwise. It takes an effort to deal with the opposite sex; it is safer to deal with your own kind. The issue is one of challenge versus comfort."

Keep talking that way Camille and the DNC will take away your membership card.

In general I don't agree with Camille Paglia's liberal politics, but when ever I see her on TV I can't help but like her. Most other feminists are whining shrews. Camille is just the opposite.

41 posted on 12/13/2004 10:29:54 AM PST by KarlInOhio (In a just world, Arafat would have died at the end of a rope.)
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Born or Bred? Science Does Not Support the Claim That Homosexuality is Genetic
42 posted on 12/13/2004 10:29:58 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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BTTT!


43 posted on 12/13/2004 10:30:57 AM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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Very interesting. Apparently, people do what they want to do - for their own reasons.


44 posted on 12/13/2004 10:31:32 AM PST by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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An excerpt from "Paglia: The energy mess and fascist gays"

"... Which brings us to another subject, the furor this past month over a report by psychiatrist Robert Spitzer of Columbia University that, from his rather cursory interviews with 153 men and 47 women, the "reparative therapy" endorsed by conservative Protestant groups can in some cases change sexual orientation from gay to straight. That Spitzer had helped to persuade the American Psychiatric Association to drop the classification of homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1973 makes his current study harder to dismiss.

Nevertheless, screeching gay activists immediately descended on the media to denounce and defame Spitzer as a tool of the far right. This was a good example of the fascist policing of public discourse in this country by nominal liberals who have become as unthinkingly wedded to dogma as any junior member of the Spanish Inquisition. Why should the fluidity of sexual orientation threaten any gay secure in his or her identity?

What gay ideologues, inflated like pink balloons with poststructuralist hot air, can't admit, of course, is that heterosexuality is nature's norm, enforced by powerful hormonal cues at puberty. In the past decade, one shoddy book after another, rapturously applauded by p.c. reviewers, has exaggerated the incidence of homosexuality in the animal world and, without due regard for reproductive adaptations caused by environmental changes, toxins or population pressure, reductively interpreted bonding or hierarchical behavior as gay in the human sense.

Because of the unblushing dishonesty of strident activists and campus "queer theorists," whose general knowledge of science would fit into Marie Antoinette's thimble, we are ironically further from understanding homosexuality than we were in 1970, when popular culture was moving into the seductive gender-bending era typified by the brilliant David Bowie. With the emphasis on external "politics," all respect for psychology has been lost. Did no one notice the grotesquely misogynous dialogue put into gay men's mouths on "Queer as Folk"? That kind of catty aversion to the female body is learned, not inborn, and it can be partly traced to early family relations, before personal memory has even gelled.

My political philosophy as a libertarian says that government has no business intervening in any consensual private behavior. My professional ethic as a thinker and writer, however, says that self-knowledge is our ultimate responsibility. In vicious attacks like the one on Spitzer, gay activists, with all their good intentions, are aligning themselves with the forces of ignorance and repression. Too little reliable work is currently being done in homosexuality because free inquiry cannot be conducted in a politicized atmosphere of harassment and intimidation..."


50 posted on 12/13/2004 10:36:45 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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Damn it! and all this time I thought the sun was out at 3 a.m.... Damn it!


62 posted on 12/13/2004 10:44:56 AM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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Thanks for posting this.

I have long contended, based on my personal observations of the messed-up lives of people who come from abusive families, that the people who end of going off the reservation on this issue do so because of emotional, physical, and/or sexual abuse in their childhoods. It's not always the parents doing the abusing, sometimes it's Uncle Joe or the neighbor or another adult, oh, say, a parish priest or a camp counselor, etc. But if a child is smashed up and pressed out of measure, he's not going to grow up strong and sturdy like children who are well-loved, properly nurtured, and have good role models.

My $.02.


77 posted on 12/13/2004 11:10:17 AM PST by GretchenM (Because the wicked never stop, the righteous must work even harder.)
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Bump.


83 posted on 12/13/2004 11:19:03 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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bump


87 posted on 12/13/2004 11:21:49 AM PST by VOA
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It really doesn't matter whether there is such a genetic predisposition or not. Homosexuals have free will just like anyone else, and they choose their behavior.


95 posted on 12/13/2004 11:27:18 AM PST by Sloth (Al Franken is a racist.)
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If they are "born that way", then how does that explain the 'LUG' (Lesbian Until Graduation) crowd? :-)


101 posted on 12/13/2004 11:40:17 AM PST by who knows what evil? (If arrogance was beauty, New England women would be supermodels!)
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No one knows the combination of factors creating homosexuality. All studies to date seem to suffer from sampling problems. I struggle even to follow the reasoning of the analysis of the data that exists.

I've gone through one analysis of studies from Colombia & Yale and another from Cambridge. The latter concludes that, "…it seems reasonable to conclude that male homosexuality, or, at least, some 'types' of male homosexuality, are under some degree of genetic control, although various problems with this data prevent more precise conclusions from being drawn.

The former goes a step or two further toward environment and says that the data is inconstant with a simple genetic influence model", that "there's substantial support for the role of social influences ", and that "its consistent with a general model that allows for genetic expression of same-sex attraction under specific, highly circumscribed, social conditions." "

106 posted on 12/13/2004 12:00:38 PM PST by elfman2
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Since they weren't born that way, were they sucked into it? :^D


107 posted on 12/13/2004 12:04:31 PM PST by 82Marine89 (Robin Hood was a democrat.)
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I don't know, there was this kid I went to grade school with who is gay. It was pretty obvious from day 1. the same can be said for my wife's 8 year old cousin - That kid is GAY!


120 posted on 12/13/2004 12:43:01 PM PST by Conservomax (There are no solutions, only trade-offs.)
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Science Shows That Homosexuals Are Not "Born That Way."

Couldn't care less how queers are born, all I care is to keep boys away from them fags.

148 posted on 12/13/2004 2:30:33 PM PST by Anticommie
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The GAY LIFELINE is about to be CUT!!

Ms. Paglia has it correct. Simple matter of what is NORMAL and what is NOT!! Face the fact that YOU CHOOSE your lifestyle and get out of this...... "I CAN'T HELP MYSELF" fantasy!!!

165 posted on 12/13/2004 3:41:52 PM PST by PISANO (Never Forget 911!! & 911's 1st Heroes..... "Beamer, Glick, Bingham & Bennett.")
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'God gene' discovered by scientist behind gay DNA theory
By Elizabeth Day
(Filed: 14/11/2004)

Religious belief is determined by a person's genetic make-up according to a study by a leading scientist.

After comparing more than 2,000 DNA samples, an American molecular geneticist has concluded that a person's capacity to believe in God is linked to brain chemicals.

His findings were criticised last night by leading clerics, who challenge the existence of a "god gene" and say that the research undermines a fundamental tenet of faith - that spiritual enlightenment is achieved through divine transformation rather than the brain's electrical impulses.

Dr Dean Hamer, the director of the Gene Structure and Regulation Unit at the National Cancer Institute in America, asked volunteers 226 questions in order to determine how spiritually connected they felt to the universe. The higher their score, the greater a person's ability to believe in a greater spiritual force and, Dr Hamer found, the more likely they were to share the gene, VMAT2.

Studies on twins showed that those with this gene, a vesicular monoamine transporter that regulates the flow of mood-altering chemicals in the brain, were more likely to develop a spiritual belief.

Growing up in a religious environment was said to have little effect on belief. Dr Hamer, who in 1993 claimed to have identified a DNA sequence linked to male homosexuality, said the existence of the "god gene" explained why some people had more aptitude for spirituality than others.

"Buddha, Mohammed and Jesus all shared a series of mystical experiences or alterations in consciousness and thus probably carried the gene," he said. "This means that the tendency to be spiritual is part of genetic make-up. This is not a thing that is strictly handed down from parents to children. It could skip a generation - it's like intelligence."

His findings, published in a book, The God Gene: How Faith Is Hard-Wired Into Our Genes, were greeted sceptically by many in the religious establishment.

The Rev Dr John Polkinghorne, a fellow of the Royal Society and a Canon Theologian at Liverpool Cathedral, said: "The idea of a god gene goes against all my personal theological convictions. You can't cut faith down to the lowest common denominator of genetic survival. It shows the poverty of reductionist thinking."

The Rev Dr Walter Houston, the chaplain of Mansfield College, Oxford, and a fellow in theology, said: "Religious belief is not just related to a person's constitution; it's related to society, tradition, character - everything's involved. Having a gene that could do all that seems pretty unlikely to me."

Dr Hamer insisted, however, that his research was not antithetical to a belief in God. He pointed out: "Religious believers can point to the existence of god genes as one more sign of the creator's ingenuity - a clever way to help humans acknowledge and embrace a divine presence."

13 October 2004: Homosexual link to fertility genes

177 posted on 12/13/2004 4:43:29 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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IMHO, homosexuality is merely narcissm by projection.


178 posted on 12/13/2004 4:44:19 PM PST by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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BTTT


184 posted on 12/13/2004 9:16:02 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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