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Ohio Electors Vote Despite Challenge
AP ^ | December 13, 2004 | CARRIE SPENCER

Posted on 12/13/2004 11:54:37 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

The Ohio delegation to the Electoral College cast its votes for President Bush on Monday, hours after dissident groups asked the state Supreme Court to review the outcome of the state's presidential race.

The 20 GOP electors voted unanimously for Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

"The vast majority of people understand this election is over," said Gov. Bob Taft, who was at the electors' voting session in the state Senate chamber.

The challengers who went to the Supreme Court question whether Bush won the key swing state by 119,000 votes, guaranteeing his victory over Democrat John Kerry.

The court did not act on their request before the electors cast their ballots.

The Rev. Jesse Jackson and attorney Cliff Arnebeck of the Massachusetts-based Alliance for Democracy accused President Bush's campaign of "high-tech vote stealing."

Jackson said the challengers noticed Bush generally received more votes in counties that use optical-scan voting machines and questioned whether the machines were calibrated to record votes for Bush.

The dissidents claim there were disparities in vote totals for Democrats, too few voting machines in Democrat-leaning precincts, organized campaigns directing voters to the wrong polling place and confusion over the counting of provisional ballots by voters whose names did not appear in the records at polling places.

If the court decides to hear the challenge, it can declare a new winner or throw out the results.

"While the existence of anomalies could possibly be explained by human error or technical malfunctions, the fact that, in every case in Ohio known to the contestors, the error favored the Bush-Cheney ticket, strongly indicates manipulation or fraud," the challengers said in a court filing.

Protesters had been expected to demonstrate outside the Capitol during the Electoral College vote, but none was present.

Congressional Democrats sent a letter to the governor on Monday, asking him to delay the electoral vote or at least consider the results unofficial until the disputes are resolved.

"The vote is required to move forward by law, and it will more forward," said Taft spokesman Orest Holubec. "The vote has been certified by the secretary of state, and all of the valid provisionals have been counted."

Carlo LoParo, spokesman for Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell, said that for the challengers' accusations to be true, he said, officials of both parties would have had to conspire to throw the election.

"That's simply a ridiculous assertion," he said.

Led by a coalition representing the Green and Libertarian parties, the dissidents are paying for recounts in each of Ohio's 88 counties that will begin this week. The recounts are not expected to be complete until next week.

Kerry issued a statement last week saying reports of voting problems should be investigated to ensure there are no doubts in future elections. His campaign does not dispute that Bush won the election, but supports the recounts.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: bushvictory; electoralcollege; fatladysings; fourmoreyears; kerrydefeat; napalminthemorning; ohio; partyofthehindparts; religionofpeace; wot
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Is the Fat Lady singing yet?
1 posted on 12/13/2004 11:54:37 AM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative
The 20 GOP electors voted unanimously for Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

WOW, unanimous!

2 posted on 12/13/2004 11:56:27 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: West Coast Conservative

What's happening over in DUmmy land?


3 posted on 12/13/2004 11:56:39 AM PST by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: West Coast Conservative

For some, she will never sing. But I'm glad this is proceeding as it should.

I still think the Republicans should NEVER let their guard down, because even after the inauguration I wouldn't be surprised if some Democrats didn't keep some accuasations simmering, just to cripple the President.

Then again, that might backfore on the Dems too, like everything else seems to . . . :)


4 posted on 12/13/2004 11:56:53 AM PST by cvq3842
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To: West Coast Conservative

Somebody send this to the DUMbasses...along with some rusty razor blades.


5 posted on 12/13/2004 11:56:58 AM PST by clintonh8r (The 21st Century Crusade...This time, let's finish the job.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

'dissident groups?' Can't we just be honest and call them looney lib moonbats..


6 posted on 12/13/2004 11:57:07 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: West Coast Conservative

7 posted on 12/13/2004 11:58:29 AM PST by Hi Heels (Proud to be a Pajamarazzi.)
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To: TexasGreg
Well, in DUmmyland, they are convinced the Peterson jury is coming back at 4:30 est today so as to obscure coverage of the Ohio Election fraud. Click here.

My only question is, how did they find out? Whoever is leaking this stuff to them ought to get a beating.

8 posted on 12/13/2004 11:59:01 AM PST by Petronski (Sleepin' on the interstate, ah whoa-o, Gettin' wild, wild life.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"While the existence of anomalies could possibly be explained by human error or technical malfunctions, the fact that, in every case in Ohio known to the contestors, the error favored the Bush-Cheney ticket, strongly indicates manipulation or fraud," the challengers said in a court filing.

Anybody got proof of this allegation?
9 posted on 12/13/2004 11:59:40 AM PST by Edgerunner (The left ain't right. Hand me that launch pickle...)
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To: Petronski

My fault.. I like to tease the DU.. However it does not take much to tease them.. /sarcasm


10 posted on 12/13/2004 12:00:01 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

There will be NO joy in DUmmieville tonight.


11 posted on 12/13/2004 12:00:55 PM PST by Ditter
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To: gopwinsin04
We can call them....DELUSIONAL!!!

THEY CAN CONTINUE IN THE LAND OF DELUSIONS!!!
HA HA HA

12 posted on 12/13/2004 12:00:56 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Petronski
The VAST Right Wing Conspiracy strikes again!

With a little help from Karl Rove of course. MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

13 posted on 12/13/2004 12:02:26 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69

The all powerful Karl Rove...


14 posted on 12/13/2004 12:03:34 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
***His campaign does not dispute that Bush won the election, but supports the recounts.***

Love this line - isn't it soooooooo Kerry-ish? And he thought he could lead the most powerful country in the world.....sigh.

15 posted on 12/13/2004 12:05:20 PM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: West Coast Conservative
organized campaigns directing voters to the wrong polling place

That campaign was run by Moveon.org to misdirect Bush voters away from the proper polling places. Physician heal thyself.

16 posted on 12/13/2004 12:05:21 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: West Coast Conservative
dissident groups

Give me a break. Carrie Spencer, are you really that dumb?

17 posted on 12/13/2004 12:05:34 PM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("God bless President Bush, and God bless America!" Johnny Ramone)
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To: shield

18 posted on 12/13/2004 12:06:03 PM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: West Coast Conservative
Congressional Democrats sent a letter to the governor on Monday, asking him to delay the electoral vote or at least consider the results unofficial until the disputes are resolved.

Sure thing, sunshine! Oh, by the way, the disputes have already been resolved.

19 posted on 12/13/2004 12:06:22 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Numbers Guy
Physician heal thyself.

that should read more like: "Hypocrite scr*w yourself".

20 posted on 12/13/2004 12:07:12 PM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: shield

The DU idiot-crew thinks NOW a recount can begin- wait, NOW a re-vote can be done. Yes, they think Ohio will 'throw out' the election results and a re-vote will put it all right for them. Amazing.


21 posted on 12/13/2004 12:07:57 PM PST by aaronbeth (Our freedom was won from the barrel of a gun.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Is the Fat Lady singing yet?

The Fat Lady sang, took a bow, a curtain call, a shower and is now wolfing down the groaning board at Scandia.

22 posted on 12/13/2004 12:09:43 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Edgerunner

Sure they do, but they will give it to us as soon as they prove their allegations about Florida 2000.


23 posted on 12/13/2004 12:13:09 PM PST by Sthitch
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To: Semper Paratus

One thing I don't understand; when does Jesse Jackson get his check ?


24 posted on 12/13/2004 12:13:44 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: West Coast Conservative
The Rev. Jesse Jackson and attorney Cliff Arnebeck of the Massachusetts-based Alliance for Democracy accused President Bush's campaign of "high-tech vote stealing."

We actually used mind-control. Democrats went to the polls and unconsciously cast their vote for Bush. Got the idea from the Spongebob Movie.

25 posted on 12/13/2004 12:14:43 PM PST by Always Right
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To: West Coast Conservative

This will be great dinner conversation to make moderate Democrats feel embarrased for being Democrats.


26 posted on 12/13/2004 12:16:29 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"high-tech vote stealing."

Is that anything like a 'high-tech lynching, reverend?

27 posted on 12/13/2004 12:17:14 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: aaronbeth
The DU idiot-crew thinks NOW a recount can begin

Is it wrong to take advantage of the simple?
Was just over there from a link on another thread.It is hard not to have a little pity for them but than I remember stupidity is born in someone,ignorance is willingly accepted.

28 posted on 12/13/2004 12:17:49 PM PST by carlr
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To: West Coast Conservative
The Libs know that they are not going to overturn the election. This is another attempt to de-legitimize Bush's victory. It is a clear window into the Liberal mind. You see, there is no possible way that the Libbies lost the election fair and square, seeing as how their candidate was sooooo much smarter than Bush (snort), how Kerry won all three debates (chuckle), and let's not forget the exit polls (giggle) and the all mighty conventional wisdom (falls out of chair laughing). Thus, Bush must have won by election fraud.

Kind of like how the excess votes found on a machine in Philadelphia prior to polls opening were all for Bush, according to an insanely liberal acquaintance of mine...and never mind that the City of Brotherly Love has rarely even SEEN a Republican.
29 posted on 12/13/2004 12:18:15 PM PST by Calvarys_Soldier (Thanks to George W. Bush, it's morning in America again.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

It's so over.


30 posted on 12/13/2004 12:18:41 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: West Coast Conservative; blam; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; ValerieUSA

on behalf of myself and all Bush supporters, I would just like to thank the Libertarian and Green parties for killing two birds with one stone:

1) contributing to the shredding of the "Democratic" Party

2) further undermining their own credibility as "independent" "alternative" "third" parties. Pat Buchanan destroyed the Reform Party in 2000, and the US Labor Party was self-immolated by Lyndon LaRouche in 1976, when he tried to get a recount in, hmm, maybe Kentucky? Basically on behalf of the defeated Ford.

near-term goals:

2006 - defeat Hillary in particular, and all other Dims in general

2008 - further increase the Republican majority in the Congress, and win the White House


31 posted on 12/13/2004 12:20:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"If the court decides to hear the challenge, it can declare a new winner or throw out the results. "

Uhhh! No it can't.



32 posted on 12/13/2004 12:21:37 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Kofi and Kojo are sending it FedEx!


33 posted on 12/13/2004 12:25:31 PM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Well, don't let this get outside FR, but my neighbor's dentist's second cousin lives in Columbus, and said his mailman says there's an affidavit filed by a guy nobody's ever heard of that asserts that an unnamed poll worker might have seen a voter complain that a machine changed his vote. And that means the election might be overturned!!

But don't panic. Karl Rove is personally visiting the unnamed poll workers house right now, and using his hypnotic powers to convince the poll worker that it was actually a disguised alien trying to stir up trouble here on Earth to pave the way for their invasion.


34 posted on 12/13/2004 12:29:23 PM PST by Joe Bonforte
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

I think there's only one good way to solve this for good. Let's have a presidential boxing match. Let GW kick Kerry's a$$ all over the ring and give him a good 'ol KO. Maybe when he has no teeth left they'll agree that it's over.

-GDD


35 posted on 12/13/2004 12:30:06 PM PST by God defeats Darwin
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To: gopwinsin04

Love the pic....says it all...


36 posted on 12/13/2004 12:31:41 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: West Coast Conservative

This whole "Ohio vote fraud" campaign is just a thinly-disguised fundraiser for Jesse Jackson. By making people think he's still relevant, Jackson can continue to dupe people into sending cash to his organization.


37 posted on 12/13/2004 12:34:03 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: aaronbeth
Understanding their name as DUmmies....fits them perfect. When comparing these folks to the Republicans ((brains))... it's easy to see why we're in office and not these conspiracy nuts!!! They operate on emotions....never never lookin' at the actual facts. Poor stupid idiots!!!
38 posted on 12/13/2004 12:35:35 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: God defeats Darwin

Good idea but let's make it fairer. They box first and have a windsurfing contest second. May the best man win!


39 posted on 12/13/2004 12:36:07 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: TexasGreg

The Dummies are whining that the Peterson verdict has been timed in order to divert MSM attention from this matter. Seriously, they have an entire thread about this "conspiracy". Morons!


40 posted on 12/13/2004 12:38:29 PM PST by tefis (Time for the truth to be told!)
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Is the Fat Lady singing yet?

When the electors vote, that's it if I remember my lessons from civics class correctly. As I understand it, the electorial college actually can vote how they like, no matter the outcome. They could have voted for Kerry.

41 posted on 12/13/2004 12:41:47 PM PST by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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To: shield
We can call them....DELUSIONAL!!!

Spelling correction. That's DUlusional.

42 posted on 12/13/2004 12:43:17 PM PST by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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To: shield

Nothing anyone can do until Jan 5 when the certification will be complete!


43 posted on 12/13/2004 12:44:16 PM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: tefis

Didn't you know? The jury members of the Petersen case are part of the VRWC!


44 posted on 12/13/2004 12:47:35 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

It seems obvious that the Ohio Supreme Court isn't enchanted with this ludicrous challenge. I hate that it's getting so much coverage.

Who in the world do these people think they are??? Bush/Cheney won by nearly 120,000 votes!!! That's a HUGE margin. This year we've had recounts in North Carolina, New Hampshire and Washington State - there were NO major changes in the vote from those recounts, so we shouldn't expect any from this waste of taxpayer's money recount, either. It's really frustrating.


45 posted on 12/13/2004 12:50:15 PM PST by No Dems 2004
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To: Joe Bonforte; All

Really, my friends 5th cousin told me that the people in Ohio was forced to vote for Bush by gunpoint!!!!


46 posted on 12/13/2004 12:50:32 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: gopwinsin04

There all pi$$ed over at DU cuz they were called "dissidents"


47 posted on 12/13/2004 12:50:47 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: West Coast Conservative
" Rev. Jessie Jackass accused Bush campaign of "High Tech Vote Stealing"

Someone needs to sue J.J. *^%$#@ behind for slander. He is the sorriest excuse for a human being.
48 posted on 12/13/2004 12:51:07 PM PST by newfrpr04
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To: Petronski

Great thread. Everyone should visit it. Fools! My post:

Damn those jurors! I wonder how they got to all 12 of them in order for them to deliver this verdict at this critical moment? No doubt this has been planned since jury selection back in June? Or worse...do you think this may have been Peterson's motive in killing his wife and UNBORN CHILD. Wow, these bastards will stop at nothing..

There go my DU posting privlidges! What shall I do now?


49 posted on 12/13/2004 12:51:30 PM PST by tefis (Time for the truth to be told!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"The vast majority of people understand this election is over," said Gov. Bob Taft, who was at the electors' voting session in the state Senate chamber.

Put Jesse Jackson et al in the vast minority who will never let this rest. I guess the new wave of all upcoming presidential elections is to find a state and scream "voter fraud!"

Florida and Ohio have already been used - that leaves 48 states and 48 more presidential elections to go as fodder for these raving lunatics.

50 posted on 12/13/2004 12:52:37 PM PST by dansangel (Thank you Veterans past and present!)
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