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What will death row be like for Peterson? (From someone on death row)
GoGov ^ | Michael Hunter

Posted on 12/13/2004 5:04:17 PM PST by BJungNan

What will death row be like for Peterson?

A considerable amount of mail flows into my cell from people out there in the world asking what it's really like living day-to-day on San Quentin's Death Row. I'm always tempted to quip, its's a hell f a lot better than dying here. But then I really don't know if that's true -- yet.

I answer every letter even if the writer is rapidly pro-death penalty. It's easy for me to understand their attraction to the concept of killing convicted murderers. In the abstract, the death penalty has an elegant Newtonian -- for every action there is an opposite reaction -- symmetry that easy harmonizes with the Old Testament -- eye for an eye -- overtone which strikes a reassuring resonance within a majority of citizens.

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KEYWORDS: conner; deathrow; dontubelievemyalibi; ibefishing; laci; lacipeterson; ohyoumeanthatwife; scottpeterson; sonkiller; wifekiller
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1 posted on 12/13/2004 5:04:17 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: Baynative

It is sad. They probably believed him ... in the beginning. The story now is that even his own half brother and sister wouldn't testify for him. It seems that while they were searching for Laci, he was coming on to his half-sister's babysitter! The guy is a sociopath monster.


3 posted on 12/13/2004 5:14:08 PM PST by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: Baynative

I agree about Geragos-- media bimboy. Peterson would have done better with a public defender or the first lawyer he hired--McLelland? But, Peterson's family has always enabled his narcissism...


4 posted on 12/13/2004 5:15:34 PM PST by Pinetop
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To: BJungNan
Essentially a contract, the decree guarantees condemned prisoners an opportunity to venture out of their cells to an exercise yard for about five hours each day An instructor from San Quentin's Education Department teaches high school course through a cell-study program. An arts & crafts program is included in the decree. Condemned prisoners have entered art competitions and won prizes in many medium.

I'm gonna barf...But I may calm myself by googling a picture of the child killer, Richard Allen Davis, just after his conviction for killing Polly Klass, flick everyone off with the bird.

5 posted on 12/13/2004 5:18:12 PM PST by Drango (Those who advocate robbing (taxing) Peter to pay Paul...will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Pinetop

Did anyone note that Scott's parents never referred to Scott as a potential father or excited about being a daddy? Like Laci and the baby were rarely discussed by them.

Very very bad sign.


6 posted on 12/13/2004 5:19:47 PM PST by najida (Watch out world- On Mondays I have the personality of an autistic pit viper (rest'o the week too!))
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To: BJungNan
I answer every letter even if the writer is rapidly pro-death penalty.

I'm slowly pro-death penalty.

7 posted on 12/13/2004 5:21:26 PM PST by martin_fierro (pAye p00r atenShun 2 dEtai)
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To: martin_fierro
I'm slowly pro-death penalty.

I'm not pro-death penalty

8 posted on 12/13/2004 5:23:43 PM PST by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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To: BJungNan
"In the abstract, the death penalty has an elegant Newtonian -- for every action there is an opposite reaction -- symmetry that easy harmonizes with the Old Testament -- eye for an eye -- overtone which strikes a reassuring resonance within a majority of citizens."

No kidding. Not to mention the rewarding feeling that another piece of human trash has been removed, never to have the chance to kill again.

The last guy removed thusly in California was in 1996:

William George Bonin The Freeway Killer

William Bonin kidnapped, robbed, raped, tortured, and killed 21 teenaged boys; he was ultimately convicted of 14 murders in two separate trials. In 1972, Bonin was officially declared disabled. The Vietnam veteran claimed to be unable to work, due to severe mental illness. So the government began sending him a monthly check for about $500. Then in 1982, Bonin was tried and convicted of the rape, torture, and murder of 10 young men in Southern California. But the wheels of justice turn slowly, and it wouldn't be until 1996 that Bonin was finally executed.

During those intervening 14 years, the government mistakenly continued to send disability checks after Bonin's multiple homicide conviction. The Social Security Administration mailed a total of $79,424 in assistance to his last known address -- his mother's house in Downey, California. She used the money to pay off her mortgage. None of this came to light before the execution. After the error was discovered, the family agreed to repay the government.

In 1979, Bonin began murdering young male hitchhikers and dumping their bodies around the Southern California freeway system. He had some accomplices, who ultimately informed on him. Bonin's defense attorney was Earl Hanson, who had previously defended John Holmes during the Wonderland murder trial.

On February 23, 1996 William Bonin was the first person California put to death by Lethal Injection. His last meal had included two pepperoni and sausage pizzas, three servings of coffee ice cream, and fifteen cans (5.3 liters) of Coca-Cola. It can safely be assumed that Bonin was either a huge Coke drinker, or he just needed 500mg of caffeine to make the most of his final hours... which he spent watching Jeopardy.

9 posted on 12/13/2004 5:25:00 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: BJungNan

Long and somewhat arduous, baby killers are the bottom of the heap, even on death row.


10 posted on 12/13/2004 5:25:36 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: BJungNan
I'm not pro-death penalty

That makes two of us but we are definatly in the minority here.

11 posted on 12/13/2004 5:26:18 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: martin_fierro

We used to have great death-penalty discussions. I always tried to frame the topic - Death Penalty: Should it Hurt? Sometimes I think condemned killers should die the average way they killed their victims.


12 posted on 12/13/2004 5:28:24 PM PST by LearnsFromMistakes (Pro wrestling NEEDS instant-replay.)
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To: BJungNan

Interesting read, thousands of words and not word one about the victims. Sociopaths don't get cured. They get smarter, more dangerous and wiser in the ways of preying on the weak but they never get cured.


13 posted on 12/13/2004 5:34:58 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Graybeard58

We load the system in favor of defendants as a way of minimizing the chance for error that would lead to conviction of an innocent party. It's to the point where with all the procedural safeguards that prosecuting a capital murder in Georgia - is so expensive that the cost of such a prosecution can consume a small central or south Georgia county's annual law enforcement budget. The incentive, when one finds a dead body in such a county, is to take it across the county line and make it someone else's problem. There has to be a way to safeguard against conviction of the innocent without making it so expensive.

This jury did the right thing here - and I was impressed in the post trial interview with the three members of the jury who spoke. O.J. was particularly lucky in the dumb jury that sat on his criminal case ("The DNA Evidence? you mean that scientific mumbo-jumbo - oh, we disregarded that!"


14 posted on 12/13/2004 5:36:24 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: jwalsh07
Interesting read, thousands of words and not word one about the victims.

It gets to the point where they simply forget about why they're in that situation and focus exclusively on their own misery.

One bad thing about the death penalty is that you not only get executed; you get life imprisonment on top of it!

15 posted on 12/13/2004 5:38:12 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Graybeard58

Anti-death penalty here, too.
I couldn't reconcile it with my faith.


16 posted on 12/13/2004 5:39:13 PM PST by mabelkitty (Blackwell for Governor in 2006!!!)
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To: runningbear

Ping.


17 posted on 12/13/2004 5:39:44 PM PST by StarFan
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
On February 23, 1996 William Bonin was the first person California put to death by Lethal Injection. His last meal had included two pepperoni and sausage pizzas, three servings of coffee ice cream, and fifteen cans (5.3 liters) of Coca-Cola. It can safely be assumed that Bonin was either a huge Coke drinker, or he just needed 500mg of caffeine to make the most of his final hours... which he spent watching Jeopardy.

I'm thinking that Bonin wanted to play one last joke on the prison labor that had to...clean the gurney...so to speak.

18 posted on 12/13/2004 5:39:50 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: BJungNan
What will death row be like for Peterson?

With any luck:


19 posted on 12/13/2004 5:42:13 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: Drango

"...the child killer, Richard Allen Davis,..."

Is this slime dead yet?


20 posted on 12/13/2004 5:44:21 PM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: mabelkitty

"Anti-death penalty here, too.
I couldn't reconcile it with my faith."

That tends to happen with folks whose Bible only has 1 Book - the New Testament. Good idea to read the whole Canon of our Faith. You might find that reconciliation you need.


21 posted on 12/13/2004 5:48:40 PM PST by torqemada ("Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!")
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To: Graybeard58
That makes two of us but we are definatly in the minority here.

Too many innocent people have been put to death, too many people convicted and on death row and later found out to be innocent and released. But, I suspect I am preaching to the choir here.

22 posted on 12/13/2004 5:48:56 PM PST by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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To: Howlin

Peterson has no idea what's in store for him.


23 posted on 12/13/2004 5:53:23 PM PST by StarFan
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To: BJungNan
I respectfully disagree.
24 posted on 12/13/2004 5:53:44 PM PST by Drango (Those who advocate robbing (taxing) Peter to pay Paul...will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: 45Auto
The last guy removed thusly in California was in 1996:

Calfornia's executed 8 men since Bonin. The last was in January 02. As executions go, California's pretty much in the middle of the states. I think we're like 26th. We do it often enough to say we've got it. Some states claim to have it but haven't executed anyone.

25 posted on 12/13/2004 5:56:59 PM PST by Heyworth
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To: BJungNan
elegant Newtonian -- for every action there is an opposite reaction

Not simply revenge - Justice. That's what it is. Appropriate. Fair. Just.

But people are saying that this is just the beginning, not the end of it. They conservatively estimate the appeals will cost as much or more than the trial to date, which has cost millions, and that it will stretch out for years. At least it'll give the FOX and CNN and NBC crews some more live stand-ups shots in the tents. Full employment.

26 posted on 12/13/2004 6:22:35 PM PST by sevry
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To: mabelkitty
I couldn't reconcile it with my faith.

You're not Christian?

27 posted on 12/13/2004 6:23:20 PM PST by sevry
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To: Heyworth

Onward to the Robert Blake trial. Hopefully he'll be the next murderer to go down.


28 posted on 12/13/2004 6:25:10 PM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie)
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To: BJungNan
Too many innocent people have been put to death

Then you should be in favor of Peterson's eventual execution. His would be the exception to what you see as some 'rule'. It would show that Justice CAN be done, sometimes; and not to dismiss the legitimate complaint that some went to their execution innocent of the charges. Not the case, here. And you don't sound glad for it, in that way.

29 posted on 12/13/2004 6:25:57 PM PST by sevry
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To: Ciexyz

What, you don't believe Blake's "Oh, I think I left my gun inside. Oh, here it is! Oh, damn, someone shot my con-artist wife while I was looking for my gun. Oh, well, it couldn't have been me, my gun was here, you all saw that" defense?


30 posted on 12/13/2004 6:33:45 PM PST by Heyworth
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To: StarFan

he'll be someone's girly girl?


31 posted on 12/13/2004 6:37:54 PM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: BJungNan

http://www.queenwords.com/lyrics/songs/sng11_02.shtml

Radio talk show host, Ken Hamblin liked this one.


32 posted on 12/13/2004 6:39:06 PM PST by berkeleybeej
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To: Baynative

I strongly agree.


33 posted on 12/13/2004 6:40:17 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: StarFan
Peterson has no idea what's in store for him.

I was really hoping for life w/out parole simply because I wanted Scott to have to fear for his life every second he was mixed and mingled with the worst in prison. Now, he'll have his own cell and will be isolated from the Bubbas who would make his prison stay much more uncomfortable.
34 posted on 12/13/2004 6:45:01 PM PST by demkicker (I'm Ra th er sick of Dan)
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To: 45Auto

Was that "BIG" John Holmes, who was Earl Hanson's former client?;)


35 posted on 12/13/2004 6:47:50 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Quix
I strongly agree.

Why? Geragos didn't help S.P. in any way. In fact, many (including moi) think he did a sorry job. All Geragos did was suck the life savings from his pathetic and gullable parents, but then again that's what trial attys do when defending pond scum.
36 posted on 12/13/2004 6:49:07 PM PST by demkicker (I'm Ra th er sick of Dan)
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That's the point, I thought.

Pond scum scumming scum off the top of the schlocky parent's retirement fund.

That's what I thought I was agreeing to.


38 posted on 12/13/2004 6:55:05 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: torqemada
My Bible has 27 books of the New Testament, much of which refutes the old eye-for-an-eye doctrine. I know I'm in the minority here well. It is exceedingly difficult, but I too cannot reconcile this judgment with my understanding and practice of Christ's teachings.
39 posted on 12/13/2004 6:55:23 PM PST by truthchaser
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To: BJungNan

Peterson won't die in my lifetime. Tonight, I heard that he will join over 600 people on California's death row.

Consider how much time and effort it will take to reduce the line to where Peterson is up front.

Perhaps California's death row needs a MOAB.


40 posted on 12/13/2004 6:59:41 PM PST by jackbill
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To: Quix

Oooops! I apologize for misreading your remark. Geeze, how embarrasing! Guess I'm used to hearing the remark, "I strongly disagree" and got a bit crosseyed.


41 posted on 12/13/2004 7:02:27 PM PST by demkicker (I'm Ra th er sick of Dan)
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To: martin_fierro

I'm dying to know if he meant "rabidly pro death"


42 posted on 12/13/2004 7:02:44 PM PST by Ahithophel (Padron@Anniversario)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
One thing you might want to send Scott in prison,Vaseline
43 posted on 12/13/2004 7:05:25 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: Graybeard58

I'm not pro-death penalty


I thought I was strongly pro death until this case. Even though he probably did it I just can't help but ask-how was she murdered and why isn't there more physical evidence linking him to the murder. Maybe the jury saw and heard things that I am not aware of but I really wonder if the death penalty is appropriate here. I would hate to put someone to death if by chance they are innocent. And I really feel for his parents. There has been too much death already. I don't think killing him is going to make things better.


44 posted on 12/13/2004 7:10:24 PM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: demkicker

No sweat.

I make errors abundantly daily.


45 posted on 12/13/2004 7:13:05 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: jackbill
Peterson won't die in my lifetime. Tonight, I heard that he will join over 600 people on California's death row.

Besides, the appeals process hasn't even begun. Geragos probably has dozens of issues that would get Snotty a new trial. I'm with you, the puke will die of old age. Maybe behind bars, but maybe not. Geragos had a lot of his own personal reputation at stake here, nobody's going to pay him megabuck fees for a guilty verdict and the top of the penalty range.

46 posted on 12/13/2004 7:22:09 PM PST by hunter112 (Total victory, both in the USA and the Middle East!)
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To: sevry

The Pope is christian and yet he opposes the death penalty. Oliver North is a christian, and he too opposes it.


47 posted on 12/13/2004 7:30:44 PM PST by Melas
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To: BJungNan

I get the feeling this girly-man is going to be someone's girl friend in short order. Hopefully he'll do himself in like some of his would have been neighbors have done. I hope he pays and pays for his crime.


48 posted on 12/13/2004 7:39:15 PM PST by Lucky2 (Go Yankees in 2005!)
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To: Graybeard58; BJungNan; BOBWADE; Mrs Zip
I'm not pro-death penalty

I am not for abortion either. (oh, were you talking about executing murderers and granting closure to the survivors?)

49 posted on 12/13/2004 7:48:02 PM PST by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans)
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To: Baynative

"Sure, they failed. But, to squander their life's savings on lawyers for this psychopath they created is just a shame."

How can you blame what Scott did on his parents? Were they there helping him kill Laci and Conner? Were they telling him what to do?


50 posted on 12/13/2004 7:50:51 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - there are countless unmistakable hints that God exists)
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