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World Health Organization: Bird Flu Pandemic Coming !
Channel News Asia ^ | 12/9/2004 | CNA Staff

Posted on 12/14/2004 11:15:37 AM PST by ex-Texan

World Health Organization: Bird Flu Pandemic Coming and Millions May Die !


U.S. Army Photo: Victims of 1918 Spanish Flu Which Killed Millions

WHO Urges Countries to Prepare Against Flu Pandemic Threat

MANILA : With up to 50 million people expected to die from the next influenza pandemic, the World Health Organisation (WHO) is to convene a meeting of international experts in Geneva next week to plan how best to meet the threat, it said in a statement Thursday.

Although it cannot predict when the next pandemic will strike, the WHO said the arrival of the avian influenza or "bird flu" virus, which is now widely entrenched in Asia, signals "the world has moved closer to the next pandemic."

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Estimates of the number of people expected to die from the next pandemic vary from two million to 50 million with between 20 percent and 50 percent of the world's population ultimately affected, the WHO said.

Hit the excerpt link to go directly to Flu Pandemic Report

(Excerpt) Read more at channelnewsasia.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Russia
KEYWORDS: asianavianflu; avianinfluenza; birdflu; flupandemic
The reports below are posted on:

NewsPundit.net

Bird Flu Crossover Danger Escalates: Death Rate 73%

Bird Flu Pandemic Could Wreck Ecosystem

Major Report: The Flu Hunters

More Reports on Bird Flu Dangers

1 posted on 12/14/2004 11:15:38 AM PST by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan

George Bush obviously isn't providing enough bird flu shots...


2 posted on 12/14/2004 11:20:05 AM PST by steamboat (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything...)
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To: ex-Texan
cannot predict when the next pandemic will strike

Also cannot predict the next ice age, an asteroid hit, if global warming will occur, and the end of the NHL lockout.

3 posted on 12/14/2004 11:23:11 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: ex-Texan

This should help with the Social Security demographics.


4 posted on 12/14/2004 11:23:50 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: ex-Texan
One panic at a time!  I've almost had a major break-through on the SARS vaccine I'm working on in the basement.  If I could just get that weeping rash to quit occurring...
Owl_Eagle

"You know, I'm going to start thanking
the woman who cleans the restroom in
the building I work in.  I'm going to start
thinking of her as a human being"

-Hillary Clinton
(Yes, she really said that
Peggy Noonan
The Case Against Hillary Clinton, pg 55)

5 posted on 12/14/2004 11:25:16 AM PST by Owl_Eagle (Enrage a liberal- "Happy Birthday Jesus!")
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To: Semper Paratus
"Also cannot predict the next ice age, an asteroid hit, if global warming will occur, and the end of the NHL lockout."

The end of the NHL lockout will be the last to occur. That much is certain.

6 posted on 12/14/2004 11:58:47 AM PST by Corporate Law (<>< -- Xavier Basketball - Perennial Slayer of #1 Ranked Teams)
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To: ex-Texan

Does one of those reports discuss the reason that all types of influenza outbreaks originate in China?

Something to do with their odd agricultural practices?


7 posted on 12/14/2004 12:08:42 PM PST by Redbob
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To: steamboat

If I get the bird flu does that mean my wee-wee will sneeze?


8 posted on 12/14/2004 12:13:11 PM PST by Safetgiver (Mud slung is ground lost.)
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To: ex-Texan

bump


9 posted on 12/14/2004 12:29:14 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: Centurion2000

WHO who?


10 posted on 12/14/2004 12:31:40 PM PST by MinstrelBoy (What will you do without freedom?!)
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To: ex-Texan

Does this bird flu news get posted 3 times every two weeks?


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1290122/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1289487/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1289487/posts

Along with another dozen or so since September...


11 posted on 12/14/2004 12:39:41 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: ex-Texan

Great. Just great. Just when I saved up enough money to buy a helmet to prevent the sky from falling on my head along comes a disease to kill us all.

Um... What was that disease called again? Ebola? Mad cow? OOps, no. It's the BIRD FLU.

Doooooooomed......

APf


12 posted on 12/14/2004 12:48:32 PM PST by APFel (Humanity has a poor track record of predicting its own future.)
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To: ex-Texan

I wonder when this movie will come out.


13 posted on 12/14/2004 1:27:26 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Dog Gone; steamboat
From a link posted above:

Warning as bird flu crossover danger escalates

The poultry farms of Asia are the breeding ground for the avian influenza virus, which is likely to spread across species - and to the West

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Sunday December 12, 2004
The Observer

Wanphen Sripirom has struggled for years to scrape a living as a subsistence farmer in Phichit province, north of Bangkok. Chickens have provided her with a lifeline that has been crucial for survival.

But last week Wanphen had to face a heart-breaking prospect: the slaughter of her brood. 'They're going to be killed tonight,' she said. It was a bitter blow, although the farmer is not alone in the privations she faces. Thousands of others across Asia have already had their livelihoods devastated because their poultry has become infected by H5N1, the bird flu virus. Tens of thousands of ducks and chickens have been infected and tens of millions have been culled this year in a bid to stop the disease spreading. Economists believe this price tag for China alone has been £31 billion. The figure for the whole of South-East Asia is double that.

Health officials are unrepentant, however, for they are desperate to stop the disease spreading - not just to other poultry but to humans. The farms of South-East Asia, where humans and animals live beside each other in tiny yards and huts, have become a vast reservoir for the H5N1 virus, and that chills not just local officials but the world's health authorities.

The planet, they believe, is poised on the brink of a new flu pandemic whose source will be the infected farm birds of Thailand, Vietnam and China.

Already 44 confirmed human cases of H5N1 infection have been documented in Thailand and Vietnam (the only countries to report human cases). Of these, 32 have died, a fatality rate of 73 per cent. No wonder the World Health Organisation and other international medical groups have become fixated about South-East Asian agriculture.

'No man is an island,' said John Oxford, professor of virology at Queen Mary Westfield school of medicine, London. 'It doesn't matter where it starts - it will be on our doorstep within 12 hours. You can't argue that it isn't our problem.'

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'We are talking at least seven million (deaths), but maybe more - 10 million, 20 million and the worst case 100 million,' he said. And Shigeru was backed by Henk Bekedam, the Beijing WHO representative. 'This is a very real threat,' Bekedam told The Observer .

This is real people. Not a wierd news post or tin foil stuff. Unless you really believe that China, Russia or N. Koreans might bio-engineer a disease to solve population problems and then raise havoc over here. 'Nuff said.

14 posted on 12/14/2004 2:43:58 PM PST by ex-Texan (Si triste trop mauvais. Revoyez-vous !)
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To: ex-Texan

That's an astounding mortality rate. Fortunately, that's still a relatively small sample, and unsustainable on a global basis.


15 posted on 12/14/2004 3:12:21 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Ok . . . But what you do not know about Asia may kill you even though you are 9,000 miles or 12,000 miles away.

Example: From the "Flu Hunters" I learned that farmers in Asia are really into cock fighting. Everybody in the countryside raises fighting bids. Researchers discovered that the primary way people get infected with bird flu is by following local custom. Local custom dictates that the owner of fighting birds personally cleans the air passage ways out by sucking the beaks of his birds. People in the country are not going to change overnight. Ergo: Guaranteed bird-to-human transmission of flu viruses.

People living far from the major cities travel closer regularly to bring their fighting birds. Why? Because Asians love to gamble.

Asia A is from the Big City. He goes to an open air market. There he contacts Asian Y or decides to have sex with a girl he meets Z. (Asians also are wild about sex) A goes to a hotel and has dinner with a friend B who is leaving for Toronto tomorrow.

Within 12 hours after B is exposed to Bird Flu he is sick in Toronto having landed in Vancouver. In cities V and T he infects 3 others, or a total of 6 people, before he even gets off the plane in T. By the time he even knows he is really sick, he may have infected dozens of others. When B gets to Toronto, he also may have infected pets owned by people he visited. Doggies, kitties, lions, tigers and bears catch bird flu easily. The rest I leave to your imagination.

Have a nice day. Stay safe. As for me, I'm not traveling to Asia in the near future.

16 posted on 12/14/2004 3:56:06 PM PST by ex-Texan (Si triste trop mauvais. Revoyez-vous !)
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To: ex-Texan
Don't misunderstand what I said. I am concerned about it.

From what I've read so far, the bird flu is not yet transmittable between humans. You can only catch it from animals at present.

But when it mutates slightly so that human transmission is possible, all hell could break loose.

Hopefully, that mutation will also make it less deadly, but there's certainly no guarantee of that.

I certainly will get a flu shot for this next year if at all possible. If the CDC and WHO are as concerned about this as they appear to be, they should be working overtime to ensure that the world has an adequate supply of vaccine to prevent the pandemic from occurring.

17 posted on 12/14/2004 4:19:53 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Human-to-human transfer has not yet happened. But we may be only a few months away from that happening. Bird flu virus may combine with a human flu virus or just mutate when it moves from bird-to-four-leggeds. You need to take a look at these reports:

Bird Flu Far More Lethal Than SARS

Regarding Vaccines: Just Testing

18 posted on 12/14/2004 8:12:56 PM PST by ex-Texan (Si triste trop mauvais. Revoyez-vous !)
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To: ex-Texan

Uh oh, this is looking real bad. I'd better stock-up on Smith Bros® Cough Drops.


19 posted on 12/16/2004 9:13:12 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm
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To: Dog Gone
Already 44 confirmed human cases of H5N1 infection have been documented in Thailand and Vietnam (the only countries to report human cases). Of these, 32 have died, a fatality rate of 73 per cent.

That's an astounding mortality rate. Fortunately, that's still a relatively small sample, and unsustainable on a global basis.

Why? There have been other pandemics with comparable mortality rates on a widescale basis. The Mesoamerican smallpox outbreaks that followed the conquistadors are a notable example.

20 posted on 12/20/2004 8:51:08 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: ex-Texan
The Austin American-Statesman, who never ever publishes anything even remotely spooky, ran this yesterday.
21 posted on 12/27/2004 6:39:31 PM PST by txhurl
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To: bill1952
Does this bird flu news get posted 3 times every two weeks?

Well, I guess it's time for another one.

You can view the postings as annoyances or warnings; I'll take the latter.

22 posted on 12/27/2004 6:43:32 PM PST by steve86
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To: Owl_Eagle

Essence of murrlap...


23 posted on 12/27/2004 6:43:58 PM PST by null and void (I refuse to live my life as if someone, somewhere will be offended if I laugh...)
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To: ex-Texan; Judith Anne; blam; flutters
'We are talking at least seven million (deaths), but maybe more - 10 million, 20 million and the worst case 100 million,' he said. And Shigeru was backed by Henk Bekedam, the Beijing WHO representative. 'This is a very real threat,' Bekedam told The Observer.
24 posted on 12/27/2004 6:57:44 PM PST by txhurl (I give credibility to a WHO guy posted in Beijing.)
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To: Redbob
Does one of those reports discuss the reason that all types of influenza outbreaks originate in China?
Something to do with their odd agricultural practices?

Yes. Humans, pigs, ducks and chickens all live under the same roof.

Very practical in some senses, as fuel is expensive and refrigeration nonexistent.

The peasant grows rice, and vegetables, eats the pigs, ducks, chickens and catfish from the pond. The pigs, ducks chickens, etc. get leftovers and human waste (Which is also used to fertilize the rice, and veggies).

This creates a virtual closed loop. the plants capture energy from the sun, which feeds people, people byproducts feed the animals, which are partially recycled through the people, animal wastes end up in the pond which feeds the catfish which feed the people and animals, the pond water and waste products fertilize the fields.

Round and round it goes.

An ideal system for maximizing the number of pathogens that can adapt to more than one host. In effect every player is eating the other players feces, either directly or once or twice removed.

The problem comes when a pig is infected by both an avian flu strain and a porcine flu strain. A pig cell unfortunate to be infected with both ends up with a soup of genetic material from both in its walls. Some mixing and matching of the DNA/RNA happens.

Voila! A new flu strain!

A few of these new strains can infect humans, a few of those are lethal...

25 posted on 12/27/2004 7:01:16 PM PST by null and void (I refuse to live my life as if someone, somewhere will be offended if I laugh...)
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To: null and void

It happens every year, like clockwork.


26 posted on 12/27/2004 7:20:58 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: txflake; Mother Abigail; riri; BearWash

I take this seriously, but I'm retired from nursing, so I don't have many of the same concerns I used to...

Anyone here can laugh if they want to, but I think some of the herbal remedies will help, should H151 go pandemic at some point.


27 posted on 12/27/2004 7:23:03 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: null and void

At least, that is the typical excuse from China these days. 'Nuff said.


28 posted on 12/27/2004 7:24:48 PM PST by ex-Texan (Si triste trop mauvais. Revoyez-vous !)
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To: BearWash

Warnings? LOL! :^)

How about the recent warning that the coming reversal of the North & South poles will result in serious problems?

Or the giant asteriod warning?

And please don't smoke while using hair spray.

Warnings? Ooookay.

- Here's one for you:
Warning: Living in areas that may be flooded by tidal waves may be hazardous to your health. - Please install coastal seimic recorders to reduce the risk of serious injury or death.


29 posted on 12/27/2004 8:06:50 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

You're strange.


30 posted on 12/27/2004 8:15:23 PM PST by txhurl
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To: txflake

It's okay Flake. - I know. 8^)


32 posted on 12/27/2004 8:28:24 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: FR Network

Okay, that's it. - I just laughed so hard I was choking!


33 posted on 12/27/2004 8:33:58 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

And Watergate don't bother me...


34 posted on 12/27/2004 8:42:38 PM PST by txhurl (Nobody gave me the new roster, I have to figure it out myself.)
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To: bill1952

Even Nick Danger is dead meat now?


35 posted on 12/27/2004 8:44:20 PM PST by txhurl (Nobody gave me the new roster, I have to figure it out myself.)
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To: txflake
To Hillbilly1952: You're strange.

I think he's beyond strange. Really strange.

36 posted on 12/27/2004 9:26:22 PM PST by steve86
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To: txflake

I still have my N-95 masks.


37 posted on 12/27/2004 9:28:25 PM PST by blam
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To: blam; txflake; Quix
I didn't see the deleted post but notice how the anti-Christian people are getting progressively more hostile and forward in their ridicule?
38 posted on 12/27/2004 9:32:05 PM PST by steve86
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To: BearWash

Yeah. Sadly.

The bird flu thing is a huge hazard, imho.

The hostility to Supernatural Christianity is incredible--even by some "Christians."

Hard for me, though, to know how much of it is hostilty to the Christian issues--I think a lot--and how much is to me personally--though the latter is probably largely because of the former???

Anyway--I just hate to roll over and play dead and let the evil forces driving such rebellious mentalities have a field day of writing the rules of discourse.

Thanks for your kind posts.


39 posted on 12/27/2004 9:35:38 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix
There is always an undertone in their posts (beyond the personal innuendo and sardonic absurdities) that "Man will Triumph over Nature" and "No Fear of God and the Afterlife" and "The World is Here to Please Man" (instead of man is here to please G_d).

Basically comes down to secular humanism. Very different from what I believe as a Traditional Catholic.

40 posted on 12/27/2004 9:44:44 PM PST by steve86
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To: BearWash

I find your assessment very accurate from my experience with such characters. Sadly.

Sure appreciate your UNDERSTANDING. It is priceless in such a context of relentless assaults.

Will long remember it, brother.

THANKS TONS AND TONS.

LUB,


41 posted on 12/27/2004 9:47:00 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. I TIM 3:5)
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To: BearWash

Hm.


42 posted on 12/27/2004 9:47:55 PM PST by txhurl (Nobody gave me the new roster, I have to figure it out myself.)
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To: BearWash; Quix
I, who have never lived in the country, a hillbilly?

LOL!

Some of you are well beyond strange, you are just plain whacked!

Making the flu into a Christian issue now, as well?
>The hostility to Supernatural Christianity is incredible--even by some "Christians."

Please state now if you posted this thread as a Christian issue, and in the belief that this is "Supernatural."

My tongue in cheek humor that pokes fun at the doom sayers is not whacked, but the above statement sounds like it came out of the mouth of my Jehovah Witness mother in law.

Many years from now. if you are still positing the same such warnings and apocalyptic gloom, I will still be laughing, and if you consider my opinion "hostility" then you are simply projecting yourself. Hillbilly, indeed.

43 posted on 12/28/2004 4:00:47 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952; Quix
Billyboy,

No, I don't detect a trace of hostility in your comments. We're just imagining it.

What drew you to FR? Most of us don't make fun of the predominant religious tradition in the United States. And why the hateful remark directed at the Jehovah's Witnesses, especially when you have one in the family?

I am very sorry if some sort of despicable experience happened to you connected to religion when you were a small child. Time heals all wounds but yours seems to be festering. It is never too late to seek counseling.

44 posted on 12/28/2004 12:32:34 PM PST by steve86
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To: BearWash

THX.

Much.


45 posted on 12/28/2004 1:31:15 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Dog Gone; Semper Paratus; Owl_Eagle
Whatever . . . i found this prophetic warning on the web today. If the bird flu starts infecting people generally anywhere outside Asia i most respecfully urge you all to follow this warning Posted Here. Be safe. Stay safe. Peace be with you.
46 posted on 12/31/2004 7:06:21 AM PST by ex-Texan (Si triste trop mauvais. Revoyez-vous !)
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