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How Can We Fight the ACLU?
Me | 12/14/04 | Me

Posted on 12/14/2004 1:36:36 PM PST by AZConcervative

How can we stop the ACLU? I am serious, so please try and refrain from half-cocked comments. Everyday, it seems, I am reading about another way the ACLU is trampling on the rights of the majority in a wacked out attempt to push its leftist agenda. From getting a cross taken out of the city of Los Angeles' crest (98% of L. A. residents polled wanted to keep it), to attacking a private entity such as the Boy Scouts, to turning the word Christmas into a vulagarity. I have seen and heard enough out of these people.

My idea is this. I want to start a grass roots effort to combat the ACLU. The problem is I wouldn't even know where to start. So I am appealing to you Freepers. I have faith that there are enough rational, intelligent people on here to come up with some truly viable ideas. I am all for having fun, but please try to keep the stupid comments to a minimum. I know that may be asking a lot of some of you, but please try and refrain.

Let's put our clout to use.


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To: Prime Choice

Thanks for pointing that out. I had never read that before.

What a bunch of opportunistic hypocrites.


21 posted on 12/14/2004 2:01:40 PM PST by MaineRepublic (Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. -- Euripides)
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To: AZConcervative
The ACLU is organized exactly like Islam. Lots of bewildered, uninformed foot soldiers willing to do anything for their masters...and...an elite power group.

Not one member of the ACLU executive board has ever been a member of the US military, the boy or girls scouts, or a practicing Chrisitan.

The only way to fight it in this PC world we live in is to form an Anti-Defamation league like the Jews.

Get Christian people together, particiularly lawyers willing to go pro bono and the wealthy folks also anger over this distructive entity....and imitate them....Sue them as individuals...attack their free tax status, intimidate their leadership as individuals....do just what they do!

22 posted on 12/14/2004 2:05:12 PM PST by squirt-gun
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To: onedoug
They sent the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors a letter concerning the cross on the seal, to which they knuckled under.

Mostly because every government entity in Los Angeles is as Leftist as they come. They practically squealed with glee at having the ACLU cast its evil eye upon them.

23 posted on 12/14/2004 2:05:46 PM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: AZConcervative

Revealing FACTS on the ACLU
from its own writings



by Diane Dew

Ever notice how the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) seems to take on only cases that are anti-Christian - pro-sodomy, pro-abortion, anti-family, pro-pornography, pro-prostitution, pro-euthanasia, pro-homosexual, pro-infanticide, pro-crime, pro-humanism, anti-God -- and, except for atheism, anti-religion?

It calls itself the American Civil Liberties Union, but the ACLU is not American; it is uncivil (to the unborn, which are shredded mercilessly to pieces without anesthetic); and it knows nothing of true liberty, which can only be found in Jesus Christ, when one is set free from the bondage of all the SIN this evil organization PROMOTES!

Stated Goals

The ACLU's founder, Roger Baldwin, stated: "We are for SOCIALISM, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself... We seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the SOLE CONTROL of those who produce wealth. COMMUNISM is the goal." (Source: Trial and Error, by Geo. Grant)

The ACLU is destructive to the fabric of our society. Christians must recognize Satan as the source - the instigator - when the end results of an organization's efforts are only "to kill, to steal, and to destroy." All we need to is examine the (rotten) fruit.

Following are some of the stated goals of the ACLU, from its own published Policy Issues:

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the legalization of prostitution (Policy 211);
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the defense of all pornography, including CHILD PORN, as "free speech" (Policy 4);
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the decriminalization and legalization of all drugs (Policy 210);
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the promotion of homosexuality (Policy 264);
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the opposition of rating of music and movies (Policy 18);
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opposition against parental consent of minors seeking abortion (Policy 262);
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opposition of informed consent preceding abortion procedures (Policy 263);
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opposition of spousal consent preceding abortion (Policy 262);
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opposition of parental choice in children's education (Policy 80)

-- not to mention the defense and promotion of euthanasia, polygamy, government control of church institutions, gun control, tax-funded abortion, birth limitation, etc. (Policies 263, 133, 402, 47, 261, 323, 271, 91, 85).

Following is a case in point (from David Barton's "America: To Pray or Not to Pray").

In 1988, California was considering adopting legislation on sex education for public schools requiring that course material and
instruction should stress that monogamous heterosexual intercourse within marriage is a traditional American value.

The Senator promoting the bill received a letter of protest from the ACLU dated April 18, 1988 stating:

"It is our position that monogamous, heterosexual intercourse within marriage
as a traditional American value is an unconstitutional establishment of religious
doctrine in public schools.... We believe [this bill] violates the First Amendment."

Truth is, liberals are unwilling to simply let others be, but rather seek to impose their UNgodliness upon Christians. It is a mission to
them and other atheists to pervert the freedoms of others. The ACLU does not run to the defense of those who are harmed; it aggressively
seeks out opportunities to corrupt pure freedoms.

Finances

How does the ACLU pay for its activities?

George Grant, author of "Trial and Error," puts the ACLU's annual budget (1993) at $14 MILLION (FOURTEEN MILLION DOLLARS) - much of which is "SUPPLIED BY THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER through the Federal program mandated by the Civil Rights Attorneys' Fee Awards Act of 1976. If the ACLU wins a case that involves a public institution, for instance, the organization collects the full legal fees of its attorneys even though those attorneys offered their services pro bono (without charge).

Membership

1993 membership in the ACLU was 250,000 members, with 70 staff lawyers, and 5,000 volunteer attorneys, handling an average of 6,000 cases at any one time.

You can read about the ACLU at the ACLU's official web site: http://aclu.org/


24 posted on 12/14/2004 2:15:54 PM PST by hipaatwo
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To: AZConcervative

bump


25 posted on 12/14/2004 2:21:38 PM PST by schaketo (http://www.gp.org/ Convince progressives to join the Green Party – Divide and conquer)
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To: WildHorseCrash
"How do you defeat them? Have a massive number of freepers join the ACLU and destroy it from within."

Hey! Not a bad idea. I'm not sure that I could be that deceptive though. I feel sure that this approach has been used to destroy organizations before.

Rise to the upper ranks of the organization by stealth and sack the bastards.

26 posted on 12/14/2004 2:29:39 PM PST by davisfh
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To: AZConcervative
It's ny understanding that the ACLU files suits under the Civil Rights laws, which qualifies them for reimbursement for legal fees whether they win or not. Next year a Republican Rep. is introducing legislation to change this. I don't know the Bill #, but you could look it up.

We need to fully support this reform. Your tax dollars support the ACLU whether you agree with them or not!

27 posted on 12/14/2004 2:43:11 PM PST by paul in cape
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To: paul in cape

Bump!


28 posted on 12/14/2004 2:45:33 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: AZConcervative
There is a website dedicated to stopping the ACLU.
29 posted on 12/14/2004 2:49:23 PM PST by Aeronaut (May all the feckless become fecked.)
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To: Ohioan

I am almost certain that he said the Judges could be removed!


30 posted on 12/14/2004 2:51:06 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: AZConcervative
How can we stop the ACLU?

A whole gaggle of thong snapping Monica Lewinsky's. Let their soon to be ex-wives bankrupt them.

I'm thinking that the thong snapping may hold true for the male ACLU scum as well as the female (all lesbians?).

31 posted on 12/14/2004 2:51:24 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Prime Choice
"That Leftist organization unilaterally decided that "the People" in the Second Amendment means "the National Guard."

As if one of the rights contained in the Bill of Rights was a right to protect the government from the people. The idea is laughable. The ACLU has an agenda, and it's not what they pretend it is.

32 posted on 12/14/2004 2:53:09 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: AZConcervative; paul in cape

Give Bill O'Reily a little credit here, he has said more against the extremism of the aclu then any other TV personality I have seen.


33 posted on 12/14/2004 2:53:20 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: AZConcervative

I donate to the Thomas More Law Center. We're a military family, so we're not rolling in the dough or anything, but if we've got it then they've got it. :o)


34 posted on 12/14/2004 3:16:31 PM PST by misty4jc (Merry Christmas Everyone!)
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To: misty4jc

Thomas More Law Center Bump!


35 posted on 12/14/2004 3:24:54 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: EdReform

The Thomas More Center is a great organization. I had the opportunity of speaking with one of its reps a few years ago, and a sharper, more enthusiastic, upbeat guy I've never met. Absolutely brilliant man. Wish I could remember his name.


36 posted on 12/14/2004 3:36:12 PM PST by IronJack (R)
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To: AZConcervative

Find ways to stop or slow the incoming funding from the big foundations and others. Write and publish lists of things they have done to ruin the Republic and subvert the laws of morality and Christianity. Freep their court dates. Make sure everyone knows their Commie background. Etc.


37 posted on 12/14/2004 3:50:26 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: bigLusr
I went to school with Jay Sekulow's son Jordan, always have had a lot of respect for what the do there at the ACLJ.

-paridel
38 posted on 12/14/2004 10:56:45 PM PST by Paridel
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To: AZConcervative; RepCath; Liz; Jay777; IronJack; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; Iris7; wkdaysoff; ...
You can join the fight against the ACLU and their ilk by becoming involved with and supporting the following organizations:

Alliance Defense Fund (ADF) - http://www.alliancedefensefund.org

Thomas More Law Center (TMLC) - http://www.thomasmore.org

American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) - http://www.aclj.org

The Rutherford Institute - http://www.rutherford.org/

Stop the ACLU Coalition - http://www.stoptheaclu.org


Here are a few examples of how two of those organizations are fighting back:

ADF Contacts Over 3,600 School Districts Over Attempts To Censor Christmas

ADF: 700 lawyers ready to fight ACLU lawsuits

ADF: Pentagons' Warning About Boyscouts Is Absurd

Thomas More Law Center: Town of Palm Beach Pays $50,000 In Attorney Fees Apologizes To Women In Nativity Lawsuit


Additional information:

The ACLU must be destroyed: Joseph Farah supports Boy Scouts, urges Americans to fight back

Citizens mobilized to stop ACLU (seeks to consign group to 'ash heap of history')

ACLU fulfilling communist agenda

Revealing FACTS on the ACLU from its own writings

See how YOUR Senator or Representative ranks with the ACLU


Let me know if you would like to join my ACLU ping list


39 posted on 12/15/2004 5:07:15 AM PST by Jay777
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To: sevry
"How Can We Fight the ACLU?

By appointing competent judges."

Bump!!

40 posted on 12/15/2004 5:31:43 AM PST by nightdriver
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