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Christmas Special Christmas Special
Bravo | 12/14/04

Posted on 12/14/2004 6:41:19 PM PST by kattracks

Edited on 12/14/2004 6:43:34 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

I don't usually post vanities, but my blood is boiling over this.

My husband told me about a "Christmas" special which was airing on Bravo network tonight @ 8 pm (EST). It was supposed to be a nostalgic look back at past Christmas specials on TV, (I thought).

Actually, what it turned out to be was one huge bash of those specials.

It was like Christmas confidential.

Rather than focusing on the programs themselves, and the fun they were, this was about what was actually going on behind the scenes, from Bing Crosby abusing his children, to Judy Garland's troubles and Andy William's marital problems. They had people commenting about these things in between tapes of the shows. They even made fun of the fact that Bob Hope was "never home" during Christmas, (he was entertaining troops around the globe). And naturally they just had to mention that the women who appeared with him all had to have huge breasts.

I have never heard of most of the people who spoke, except for Paul Reubens (Pee Wee Herman) which should tell you a lot.

The one positive was Pat Boone, who explained he always sang the old carols because to him Christmas was about the birth of Christ

They then went on to tell the "real" story behind the animated Christmas shows.

The only positive thing about them was how successful ($$) some of them were.

Then they came to the segment where the holiday "escaped" it's religious aspect and turned to a winter celebration, with snow and bells and sleighs.

That was enough for me.

BTW, during this garbage Bravo saw fit to announce one of the new programs coming up on their station.

Queer eye for the straight girl.

As far as I'm concerned the only straight I have in mind is that Bravo can go straight to HE##


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bravo; christmas

1 posted on 12/14/2004 6:41:20 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks

You expect what from television?


2 posted on 12/14/2004 6:44:49 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: satchmodog9

Not much, but this really got to me.


3 posted on 12/14/2004 6:45:29 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks

The same Bravo that brings us Queer Eye for the Straight Guy among many other in your face liberal agenda programs? Now why would anyone expect anything else from this group?

I remember years ago when it first started I could occasionally catch an opera or other worthwhile cultural program, but since the gay liberals hijacked the channel I never watch it.


4 posted on 12/14/2004 6:49:22 PM PST by Maigret
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To: Maigret

I don't watch much TV, so I'm not wise as to what they generally televise, but you can bet that's the last time I'll ever watch anything from Bravo!


5 posted on 12/14/2004 6:53:10 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks

Don't you know Bravo is the network that shows Queer Eye and reruns of The West Wing? That alone should tell you all you need to know. Finally it is also home to THE WORLD'S GREATEST GAS BAG - James Lipton!


6 posted on 12/14/2004 6:54:07 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: kattracks

I think Bravo is run by NBC.

I've never watched anything on Bravo; all of their shows sound pretty alien. But thanks for warning us about this "Christmas Special". The title sure sounds innocent enough; you'd think it would have been an uplifting celebration of the meaning of Christmas.


7 posted on 12/14/2004 7:00:09 PM PST by Joann37
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To: kattracks
Fortunately you can get all the classic Christmas movies/shows on DVD for cheap money. I just got the 1951 version of A Christmas Carol for $9.99 on DVD and I can watch it whenever I want with no commercial interruptions. I have about 10 other Christmas classics in my DVD collection already. Who needs TV?
8 posted on 12/14/2004 7:01:07 PM PST by SamAdams76 (No intolerant liberal is going to take my Christmas away from me)
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To: kattracks

If you have a "parental control" device of some kind which you have to enter a code to access a blocked out channel(s), then pull up the option screen where you enter the parental code to block out the channel, close your eyes and punch in some numbers at random. Then email the station and tell them you can no longer watch their channel because you find it offensive. Plus you don`t know the code you punched in so you can`t change your mind.

I have several stations blocked out on my cable box. All MTV and VH1 channels, Bravo , Oxygen , E ! , Style , WE , and BET .

At one time or another something was on one of these that ticked me off and that was that.

You can also block out specific programs on most of these devices.



9 posted on 12/14/2004 7:06:10 PM PST by Peace will be here soon
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To: Joann37
The show was titled Christmas Special Christmas Special.

A Christmas special on past Christmas specials. Who knew they were going to distort it the way they did?

I am now madder but wiser.

10 posted on 12/14/2004 7:06:45 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks

And the liberals say the conservatives control cable news. HA!


11 posted on 12/14/2004 7:08:42 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: kattracks

Why did you watch past the first five minutes?


12 posted on 12/14/2004 7:16:58 PM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: taxesareforever

I'm a conservative and I control the cable news. Broadcast news, too. It's diabolically simple: I don't allow broadcast, cable, or satellite into my home. Four years and counting, with five small kids in our family, and we don't miss it a bit. If we want a tube fix, we'll watch DVD's or videos.


13 posted on 12/14/2004 7:19:40 PM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Evil is just plain bad")
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To: kattracks

Have Yourself a Very Merry Christmas, kattracks!

Despite Bravo and ACLU and all that are so offended by the mere mention of the happiest greetings of all...Merry Christmas! Celebrate and make very merry!

14 posted on 12/14/2004 7:21:46 PM PST by harpo11
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To: OldFriend

I think I was in shock.


15 posted on 12/14/2004 7:21:55 PM PST by kattracks
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To: harpo11

Thank you and a very Merry Christmas to you and yours.


16 posted on 12/14/2004 7:23:38 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks

I saw it and half way through the program I tuned out!! Am I upset?...NO WAY... BRAVO is a lib loving queer station, what do you expect from those A$$Holes?!!


17 posted on 12/14/2004 7:23:59 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: kattracks

You know better, though.....Bravo is notorious for its ultra-left bent. Gay=good, everything else=bad. Not worth watching on their best day.


Kat.....that's why your cable provider has 500+ channels. :)


18 posted on 12/14/2004 7:26:53 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: RoseofTexas
"BRAVO is a lib loving queer station, what do you expect from those A$$Holes?!!

I like your style. :)

19 posted on 12/14/2004 7:29:55 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: kattracks; All

FOX has been announcing for a couple of days that they are putting on a special - hosted by Jon Scott. Just from the clips I saw, it appears to be factual. I guess we'll find out.


20 posted on 12/14/2004 7:42:43 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: kattracks

We used to get Bravo but the cable co replaced it with Sci Fi, for which I was glad,

but, I did want to watch this Christmas special...it sounded neat. glad I missed it now.


21 posted on 12/14/2004 7:45:00 PM PST by altura
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To: kattracks

I watch PAX, Hallmark, HGTV, The Animal Planet, TLC, EWTN and Fox. My husband watches the Weather station and the western station. We got tired of trying to watch things that actually embarrassed us.


22 posted on 12/14/2004 7:47:30 PM PST by tiki (Won one against the Flipper)
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To: altura

P.S. Wondering how long it will be before certain people arrive. These are people who take the trouble to come on EVERY thread about television to proudly announce they don't have a television.

Why can't people just quietly not have a television?????


23 posted on 12/14/2004 7:47:42 PM PST by altura
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To: Peace will be here soon

DON'T BLOCK MTV! I watch Beavis and Butt-head to see what the Democratic party is going to look like in 20 years...


24 posted on 12/14/2004 8:10:01 PM PST by Keith (NOW, MORE THAN EVER....IT'S ABOUT THE JUDGES!)
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To: RightOnline

I am imagining what ultra-left bent must mean. Bravo, though I never watch it, friends say is an arts network. If they were showing the reality behind the broadcast networks' religious "specials" I would think it might be interesting. If the networks' only interest is in the almighty dollar then perhaps these "specials" should be viewed in another light.

As for ultra-left, I view that as somewhere beyond Stalin's evilness and hardly fit for American television. I would prefer that we speak in terms of candor but not hate or extreme exaggeration. We might develop much further as a nation.


25 posted on 12/14/2004 8:26:33 PM PST by Parsifal2
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To: kattracks

Saw it too - talk about mean-spirited - the worst was some never-heard-of gay complaining that the women in the King family used to have big hair on their Christams specials - real trash TV.....


26 posted on 12/14/2004 9:07:31 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: kattracks

The more they slap Christians and Christmas around, the more we are gonna vote, and we have kids coming up also that know the score despite all their best Marxist efforts in the public schools.


27 posted on 12/14/2004 9:10:16 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: SamAdams76
I have about 10 other Christmas classics in my DVD collection already. Who needs TV?

These are best watched during the dog days of summer --- helps me cool off just a little bit.

28 posted on 12/14/2004 9:20:32 PM PST by eccentric (aka baldwidow)
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To: Parsifal2

Yeah, whatever. I call them as I see them, and I've seen enough in my years. I don't need to analyze nor "dialogue" about it. I know the type all too well.

Keep watching; you'll eventually catch on. Nice sentiment, though.


29 posted on 12/14/2004 9:25:49 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: SamAdams76

That was THE best "A Christmas Carol" ever produced, IMO. Alastair Sim was fantastic. And they didn't whitewash the Christian aspect of the story; that Jesus is the true spirit of the day every day, and men find him in their hearts as well.


30 posted on 12/15/2004 1:46:37 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal)
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To: Peace will be here soon

Poor plan. You have to enter in the code you don't know to block channels in the future, only you've fixed it where you can't block channels, because you don't know the code.


31 posted on 12/16/2004 12:09:52 AM PST by Melas
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To: Melas

"Poor plan. You have to enter in the code you don't know to block channels in the future, only you've fixed it where you can't block channels, because you don't know the code."

????

You have to enter a code for every channel on mine. Each channel can have a different code. Maybe it is just my parental control system that can do this.



Sounds like a friendly neighbor could correct this problem though. Let them make up and keep the code.


32 posted on 12/16/2004 10:10:13 PM PST by Peace will be here soon
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To: Peace will be here soon

Ah, mine is much different there is a single code, and you must enter it to access any parental control functions. If I wanted to add a new channel or a single movie for example, I would have to enter that code.


33 posted on 12/16/2004 10:24:12 PM PST by Melas
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To: Melas

Why would you need to keep the code from YOURSELF? I mean, I can understand keeping it from your children, or your wife if she's getting some kooky liberal ideas, but why the cover-your-eyes/have-a-neighbor-do-it approach? Are you so afraid of your own weakness that you have to "trick" yourself? Not a good sign for the conservative movement.


34 posted on 12/17/2004 9:34:10 AM PST by neoconjob ("...deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: neoconjob

You replied to the wrong guy.


35 posted on 12/17/2004 10:01:02 AM PST by Melas
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To: Melas

I suppose I should have directed the comment to "Peace Will Be Here Soon" but you were both discussing the various techniques one can use to block out certain channels without knowing the code... Can't both of you read this reply or does it only go to "Melas"? I ask because I'm new to these message boards.

And is there significance in "Melas" being "Salem" backwards?


37 posted on 12/20/2004 5:17:42 PM PST by neoconjob ("...deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: kattracks

So write to them and tell them how much you hated it.


38 posted on 12/20/2004 5:22:24 PM PST by ShadowDancer
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To: kattracks

I don't get Bravo, but it is one I warned my daughter about - they have Dish network. Somewhere on FR(?), it was mentioned as the gay network. I only watch Fox News, and 2 or 3 programs on nbc (my soap, Crossing Jordan, and Third Watch).


39 posted on 12/20/2004 5:29:17 PM PST by mathluv (Thank you, America, for protecting my grandchildren's future.)
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To: neoconjob
I suppose I should have directed the comment to "Peace Will Be Here Soon" but you were both discussing the various techniques one can use to block out certain channels without knowing the code... Can't both of you read this reply or does it only go to "Melas"? I ask because I'm new to these message boards.

When you want another person to see the reply, use their name and seperate it with a semi-colon in the too box.

And is there significance in "Melas" being "Salem" backwards?

Yes, I smoked Salem cigarettes for most of my adult life, and a pack of Salem's was on my desk when I created my screenname.

40 posted on 12/20/2004 5:58:48 PM PST by Melas
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To: CyberAnt

Is the problem with BRAVO's Christmas Special one of factual error? You say that the FOX special will probably be "factual"... It's my understanding that people's problems with the BRAVO special have to do with the emphasis on behind-the-scenes unpleasantness and greed, but I haven't seen anything to suggest that these tawdry tales are inaccurate, just unnecessarily tawdry. Again, as someone else has already pointed out... what more do you really expect from televison?


41 posted on 12/20/2004 6:11:44 PM PST by neoconjob ("...deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: kattracks
I know how you feel kattracks. Hope venting helps ;^)

The teevee was co-opted decades ago by evildoers. It has only gotten worse in the intervening years. I've run out of room on my tagline, but Bravo is there in spirit.

FGS

42 posted on 12/20/2004 6:34:12 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: kattracks
BTW, Merry CHRISTmas.

FGS

43 posted on 12/20/2004 6:35:01 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: kattracks

Really... I actually found it to be quite interesting. I thought it was interesting to see what really went on behind the scenes on Christmas specials. Also I thought it was quite balanced. People gave their honest opinions about Christmas Specials past and praised a lot of them. Most people talked about how much they loved Charlie Brown Christmas and some of the other animated specials. They really praised Bob Hope and his efforts at Christmas time. They also lauded the duet between Bing Crosby and Ziggy Stardust. They talked about classic, timeless performances. Also, when they were commenting on "It's A Wonderful Life" they made the point that though most people say they hate Christmas Specials, in the end, they end up watching them, crying, and enjoying them in the long run.

I walked away from the program with a smile and also a better understanding of the history of the American traditions of Christmas.


44 posted on 12/21/2004 8:50:20 AM PST by VioletIce
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To: VioletIce

wow, you're gonna get ripped to shreds on this site, "Ice"... nothing worse than a cadre of angry social conservatives on your neck. Personally, I think you're right, and I know a woman who actually worked on the show, in post-production, so I saw some rough-cuts before it aired. Maybe I'm wrong and they'll leave you alone... maybe the furor has died out on this particular moral outrage. Let's find out, shall we?


45 posted on 12/21/2004 7:00:23 PM PST by neoconjob ("...deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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