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Columbia to give $50-$100 for guns
The State ^ | Dec. 15, 2004 | SHALAMA C. JACKSON and LAUREN LEACH

Posted on 12/15/2004 8:14:35 AM PST by looscnnn

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To: Sender

Only if you promise to destroy the ones that were turned in, we don't want them getting back into circulation.


51 posted on 12/16/2004 10:42:38 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
The firearms were an almost new Colt 1911 and an almost new Springfield 1903 rifle he had purchased just after the first world war in 1918.

It amazes me what people will throw away (including their own safety, by giving up guns), but also, those are some of the most legendary guns in history! They do not deserve to be made into rzorblades!
52 posted on 12/16/2004 10:42:50 AM PST by Paul_Denton
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To: uncleshag
What: Gun Amnesty Day, where anyone turning in a firearm can receive $50 to $100, depending on the weapon and whether it is operational.

$50 to $100 is a ripoff, especially for rare and valueble guns. But I guess people will fall for it.
53 posted on 12/16/2004 10:45:28 AM PST by Paul_Denton
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To: Sender
Maybe we should have a 'liberal politician buyback program'. Anyone turning in a liberal politician gets a check, and a hazard is taken off the streets.

Thats a great idea! Offer a free gun of any choice to those that turn in a liberal.
54 posted on 12/16/2004 10:47:32 AM PST by Paul_Denton
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To: looscnnn
“When you take guns off the streets you save lives,” City Councilman E.W. Cromartie said at a news conference Tuesday afternoon. “Make our streets, homes and neighborhoods safe.”

You just can't make stuff like this up. I know it's hard to believe, but there are lots of other morons (mostly in blue states) who "think" just like this moron.

The idea for “Gun Amnesty Day” came from the Unity 2004 summit in October, which focused on improving services and programs to decrease youth violence.

Hey! I have an idea - lets disarm the victims and spend more taxpayer dollars on hriing more government employess to "improve services" I'm just sure this will decrease violence ha ha ha ha

City Councilwoman Tameika Isaac Devine that a Teen Hot Line will be available in January. By dialing 311, teens can talk to specially trained operators who will offer guidance regarding violence issues

I can see it now some thug calling a hotline and discussing his need to rob with a city employee. Where do city councilwomen get their brains sucked out, because I gotta say whoever did the job on this moonbat sure knew his business.

55 posted on 12/16/2004 10:52:50 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: Paul_Denton

Thanks Paul.

If I wasn't clear, I'm against the buyback. Period.

You are correct, though.
My great state of South Carolina
isn't known for our "bright light bulbs".

We're in the state of construction.


56 posted on 12/16/2004 10:52:53 AM PST by uncleshag
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To: uncleshag

Me too. Any form of disarmament, voulentary or otherwise is a way of liberals erasing our freedoms. I sure hope such a buyback (or less voulentary) thing does not happen here in Washinton.


57 posted on 12/16/2004 10:57:28 AM PST by Paul_Denton
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To: looscnnn
How about they offer a 'fair market value' for each pistol, like $500.00 to $600.00 dollars per pistol instead $50 to $100 dollars per pistol.

In some places what Columbia is doing could be considered the crime of defrauding someone by offering a much lower price for something than what the market bares.

58 posted on 12/16/2004 11:01:06 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup

That is what the government does best.


59 posted on 12/16/2004 11:33:05 AM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: looscnnn

You need to make your statements a little more bit broader.


60 posted on 12/16/2004 11:36:11 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup

Why? It is a fact. Look at public "education", they are defrauding the tax payer. Look at "eminant (sp?) domain", they defraud the property owner and tax payers. Need I go further?


61 posted on 12/16/2004 12:48:50 PM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: looscnnn
Why? It is a fact. Look at public "education", they are defrauding the tax payer. Look at "eminant (sp?) domain", they defraud the property owner and tax payers. Need I go further?

Their actions do sometimes make true anarchism (not to be confused with what socialist college street punks call anarchism) very appealing. But only sometimes.

62 posted on 12/16/2004 12:54:12 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; AJ Insider; AlligatorEyes; Amanda King; ..
Ok FReepers! We're on for Saturday morning at 10 AM. The city attorney's office says we don't need a permit. We have to stay on the sidewalk and not block traffic.

Please let us know if you can meet us at the stadium for a couple of hours Saturday morning. Bring signs if you can. Anyone with ideas for appropriate signs, please post them on this list.

If you plan to come and want to trade cell phone numbers, freepmail me or email me at d242a AT bellsouth dot net. If anyone gets there before I do on Saturday and runs into trouble, tell the cops that Jim Meggs and Bob Cooper of the city attorneys office said we did not need a permit. That is based on what the chief of police told them.

There's a BoJangles right across the street from the stadium if anyone needs hot coffee. We should stay on the Olympia Ave. side of the stadium, which is a busier street than Shop Road. Let's plan to meet up across the street from the BoJangles.

63 posted on 12/16/2004 7:59:26 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (And unto us a Child is born! Merry Christmas, dear FReepers!)
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To: PistolPaknMama

So how did it go?

Anyways, isnt this typical leftist condescension toward average citizens? The only people that will get rid of guns in a program like this are people ignorant of a guns value, people unloading POS guns, and criminals interested in destroying evidence.

No actual criminally inclined person is going to cough up a gun, duh. The left knows this but it gives them the opportunity to psture as thogh they really give a DemocRATS a$$ about criminal violence (not GUN violence).


64 posted on 12/18/2004 6:38:03 PM PST by JFK_Lib
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To: looscnnn

Two types of people show up for these stupid turn-in's!

1. The law abiding, mostly elderly, who feel they need $50-$100 NOW, more than they need an old gun for possible future protection or hunting.
These scams invariably take in several guns worth a few hundred to a few thousand dollars, almost any operable used gun is likely to worth at least two to three times what these charlatans are offering, from any legitimate firearms dealer.
But the people who get taken in by these offers fail to consider that fact, lulled into a false sense that they are "doing something" about crime!
Unless they are in fact criminals, their turning in these guns only makes life easier for the real criminals as the honest citizens are disarmed!

2. Criminals!
They LOVE these turn-in's, they not only get to dispose of guns they have stolen or used in several crimes without any questions, they get PAID to do so!
They can then use the bounty money to buy fresh stolen guns, breaking the evidence trail that keeping the old gun might held against them.
They typically turn in the few guns not worth the bounty offered, Lorcins, Davis, Sundance, etc.
They quickly learn that the dunce taking the guns knows nothing about them, and have been known to turn in broken toy guns for the full reward.

These turn-in's are a SCAM!
Feel-good garbage, ripping off the honest citizens who participate AND the taxpayer who funds them.

But the liberal MSM supports them, so they will continue until it is proven that they enabled some serial murderer to escape punishment.
The theft of valuables from the elderly they also represent has already been documented, but the MSM and feel-gooder's do not care.

I am a licensed firearms dealer, I know what sort of guns turn up in these buys, particularly the guns the elderly turn in.


65 posted on 12/18/2004 7:04:41 PM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: MediaMole

Been tried, cops will run off or arrest you!

It's OK for the local P.D. Chief to give a widow $50 for the Luger Artillery model with matching holster stock, then "accidently" take it home for later sale at the $2,500 it is really worth.

But if a legitimate gun dealer or citizen shows up and starts passing around an up to date value guide, they will probably find themselves being subject to inquisition by the ATF or FBI!

These are set pieces for the liberal media, gun grabbers, and MSM, the truth only interferes with their agenda and will NOT be tolerated!


66 posted on 12/18/2004 7:11:59 PM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: looscnnn

There IS an organization to compete with this BS, it is all the honest Gun Dealers of America.

I buy guns that people no longer want all the time.
Sometimes they are disappointed that the gun is not worth more, sometimes they are shocked to learn that grand-dad's beat up old first gen. Colt SAA or 1914 dated 1911 is worth hundreds or thousands of dollars.

I have sent people to larger dealers when they walked in with rare Luger's worth thousands, and I have arranged a quick sale to a collector when a mint W.W.I Colt was more valuable than I could afford to buy.

Honest people only fall for these "buy-back" schemes ("buy-back"? When did the State own the gun previously?) because the Gov. Org. or "charity" organizing them can afford to purchase massive advertising to promote them.
Left to their own it simply does not occur to them to seek out a dealer and sell the guns, until they need the money to handle a crises, or they inherit them. Then far too often they get ripped of by a "Pawn Shop" who gives them ¢20 on the dollar.
Give me the sort of free advertising the Gov. Org. has access to and I will take far more guns "off the streets" at fair prices!

Of course, when I buy a gun the seller has to provide current ID, I make a record of where it came from, and the gun will not disappear into a smelter.
So I would not be buying guns from criminals, which does cut down on the number of guns I would be offered.

Just as a public service I will tell you what dealers pay for used guns.

Licensed gun dealers usually pay 50%-60% of retail value.
Pawn shops pay 10%-20% of retail on pawn, 20%-35% to buy.
Unlicensed "dealers" pay similar to pawn shops, but are even more willing to take advantage of anyone who does not realize what they have. They are "not really in business" and have no concern at all for repeat business, so BEWARE.

Licensed gun dealers will usually sell a gun on consignment for 15%-20% of the retail sale price.

Your library MIGHT have a copy of the "Blue Book of Gun Values".
If they don't they can be bought at gun shops and on-line.
Evaluating a guns condition accurately can be tricky for a novice, even experienced dealers occasionally make expensive mistakes.

Sellers always see every gun as "Mint", the broken stock and missing magazine are minor points to them.
Dealers usually notice the SS# scratched into the side of the action, and want to take off points for the missing rear sight.
Thus a little dickering usually follows, but if both are honest a deal can usually be made.
But even a novice will get better advice from a reference book than from a liberal gun grabber looking to advance their cause.

My site is full of guns I have "taken off the street", so if you know some one tempted by a stupid "buy back" send them to me! ;-)
http://www.specialinterestarms.com


67 posted on 12/18/2004 7:52:56 PM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: PistolPaknMama

Try "Theft" or "Virtual Confiscation"!

They often get a few VERY valuable guns, for a pittance, or even a coupon for some Chinese sneakers that will not last a week.


68 posted on 12/18/2004 7:58:25 PM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: looscnnn

For some reason I keep thinking that the Police Chief and his cronies pick out the good guns for themselves and destroy the crap.


69 posted on 12/18/2004 7:58:59 PM PST by HP8753 (Liberalism is the epitome of Intolerance.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Donate it to you local Scout Troop, Future Farmers of America, or 4H, and take a $50 tax write-off next year.

Next question?


70 posted on 12/18/2004 8:01:20 PM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: HP8753

That is common, and has been proven on more than one occasion!


71 posted on 12/18/2004 8:09:33 PM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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