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Posted on 12/15/2004 11:24:22 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
A recall election is now set for an Estes Park, Colo., trustee who refuses to stand up and recite the Pledge of Allegiance during the Town Board meetings.
"I have not been standing for the Pledge of Allegiance due to a conflict I have with the wording of the pledge, specifically the words 'under God,'" Councilman David Habecker said.
Habecker said it's a violation of church and state to include the words in the pledge and for that reason, he won't stand.
The board began reciting the pledge before meetings earlier this year at the suggestion of Trustee Lori Jeffrey-Clark. She suggested it as a way to show respect for the country during wartime.
Jeffrey-Clark said Habecker is expressing his personal views, not representing townspeople, when he sits down.
Habecker, who's served on the Town Board for 12 years, said he doesn't oppose the meaning of the pledge, and considers himself a patriot.
But some other council members and residents are upset about his actions and have enough signatures to hold a recall election. That recall election will occur Tuesday, Feb. 15.
All residents will vote on whether to recall David Habecker and a choice for his replacement in the event the recall passes. The recall is expected to cost a few thousand dollars.
"I'm sad for the community, that there is that much intolerance in our community. But if the people want to have a voice in what's going on, this is their way of doing it. And I will respect whatever the wishes of the community are," Habecker said.
Estes Park, which has about 5,500 residents, is the eastern gateway to Rocky Mountain National Park about 60 miles northwest of Denver.
And all this time, I thought your middle name was Tiberius! Oh, wait, that's Captain Kirk. My bad.
Name me one politician who truly represnts the views of his constituents. 90 percent (a conservative estimate) of them are shameless liars. Why single this guy out for being honest?
"Gee whiz, this guy deserves credit for standing up for his beliefs, and at some risk."
Actually, the article says he agrees with the pledge, he just thinks this is a violation of church and state. This makes him a moron, and one with a prominant position. Which is even worse.
A moron politician? Imagine that!
My sister in law got married at Stanley Hotel there. I spent a week there and loved it. The local residents should fire this intolerant religous bigot.
Send him to Iraq that way we eliminate all the insurgents.
If you deny that we are a nation under God, then we are a nation standing all alone. There is then no natural right, no God-given right, to liberty or justice. Then there is only the state. If our liberty and justice flow from the state, the state can remove them at will. Is this what we want to believe? It leads straight to chaos and dictatorship.
Its become part of the job description for politicians...
He was elected to express his personal views, not to take a poll whenever it is time to vote. That doesn't mean the townspeople can't ostracize him, though. =)
Again. Nobody's contesting his right to be whatever - atheist, agnostic, another faith. Nobody's beating him about the head and shoulders about not reciting the words "under God." If he's such a patriot, you'd think he'd stand to recite the body of the pledge along with everyone else, omitting the offending phrase.
I suspect it's not about his beliefs or the offending phrase. It's about himself - ego - grandstanding as an intellect, a free thinker, whatever.
Sure, he could just say the original version.
"Only the nuts and extremist sit out the Pledge of Allegiance for any reason."
uh...what about people who will only pledge their allegiance to God? Are they "nuts" or "extremists"?
I despise blanket statements.
in ten years Easter will be no more, and Christmas will be a "day of sharing". Churches will be taxed like casinos based upon revenue. Priests will have to be registered and tracked to prevent abuse. People who declare a religious beleif will be looked upon as primative savages who are unsophisticated and easliy led.
The Crucifix will be outlawed, and reading the bible will be considered ignorant hate speech.
Santa Claus, Christmas decorations of any kind, will be considered religious in nature and banned.
And don't forget - people who receive ashes on Ash Wednesday will be considered to carry the amrk of the beast.
Clause 8: Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
No Deity involved. The addition is a completely voluntary comment that has no official status.
-Eric
Does he accept the money? IN GOD WE TRUST!If someone wrote you a check for money they owed you and wrote "Vote Democrat" in the comments section, are you endorsing the Dims by cashing it?
-Eric
"I'm sad for the community, that there is that much intolerance in our community. But if the people want to have a voice in what's going on, this is their way of doing it. And I will respect whatever the wishes of the community are," Habecker said.
Oh, but HIS intolerance is OK? Don't let the door hit you in the rear. How come he just now decided after 12 years that he wanted to refuse to say it?
Refusing to mention God when everything he does on a daily basis is directly attributed to the worship of God.It confused me too, though I could go about a hundred directions with it. Most of them "inappropriate". >:)I have no idea what you mean by this.
-Eric
I respect someone willing to risk their job over a matter of principle.
Now, throw the bum out!!
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