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Yushchenko poison 'second highest dose'
The Advertiser (Australia) ^ | Dec. 16, 2004 | Australia News

Posted on 12/15/2004 1:25:44 PM PST by QQQQQ

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To: Mark in the Old South

You certainly have a point with which I will not argue; but I don't believe that Yushchenko is nuts. Again, this is just my opinion.


21 posted on 12/15/2004 2:57:34 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
I don't think he is either but it was a golden opportunity to get a dig in on the psychiatric, Hollywood, NBA and Democratic communities.
22 posted on 12/15/2004 3:00:18 PM PST by Mark in the Old South (Note to GOP "Deliver or perish" Re: Specter I guess the GOP "chooses" to perish)
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To: Poohbah

Again, I respect what you are saying; but for me, I can’t go along with it. If it would work (for sympathy), Kerry and Gore may have tried something like that blaming it on Bush.


23 posted on 12/15/2004 3:04:36 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Mark in the Old South

I'm sorry, but I thought you were serious. I had a friend that worked in a mental institution; and from what was related to me about some of these patients, I'm gullible for anything in this area.


24 posted on 12/15/2004 3:09:45 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer); hchutch
Again, I respect what you are saying; but for me, I can’t go along with it. If it would work (for sympathy), Kerry and Gore may have tried something like that blaming it on Bush.

Here in the US, any poisoning of a Democrat presidential candidate would be investigated by the Secret Service, and they would quickly determine that it was self-inflicted.

I wouldn't put it past the 2008 Dem nominee to consider the idea, but it would be rejected by anyone with an IQ of two digits.

Which means that we might see it attempted in 2008.

25 posted on 12/15/2004 3:10:01 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: QQQQQ
"He would have died within a few days and nobody would ever, ever have thought of dioxins."

Somebody does not accidentally ingest this much dioxin in one sitting.

Secondly as stated in the article he was only tested for dioxin cause he lived long enough to show the tell tale signs of dioxin exposure chloracne.
26 posted on 12/15/2004 3:18:14 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Poohbah

Thank you for the wonderful laugh!!! It wouldn’t be surprising, as you brought it up, if this stunt is tried by the opposition in 2008. It would be quite annoying if someone came up room temperature because it would take months to explain away.


27 posted on 12/15/2004 3:22:13 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Just mythoughts
"He would have died within a few days and nobody would ever, ever have thought of dioxins."

Except that nobody's actually died from dioxin exposure. They don't have any idea what the lethal dose actually is!

28 posted on 12/15/2004 3:23:16 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Thank you for the wonderful laugh!!! It wouldn’t be surprising, as you brought it up, if this stunt is tried by the opposition in 2008. It would be quite annoying if someone came up room temperature because it would take months to explain away.

The trick to understanding this is that there isn't a known lethal dose for dioxin. They don't have an LD50 figure; 140,000 ppg is still an LD-zero dose.

29 posted on 12/15/2004 3:25:42 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
The trick to understanding this is that there isn't a known lethal dose for dioxin. They don't have an LD50 figure; 140,000 ppg is still an LD-zero dose.

You are correct. For some reason, I am not concentrating on the fact that the lethal dose is not known. But...We may learn that during the 2008 campaign.

30 posted on 12/15/2004 3:33:22 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

No, the liberal who will ingest it will stick to no more than 100,000 ppg. "Hey, it got all kinds of sympathy for Yushchenko!"


31 posted on 12/15/2004 3:36:56 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
No, the liberal who will ingest it will stick to no more than 100,000 ppg. "Hey, it got all kinds of sympathy for Yushchenko!"

That is true because they now have a benchmark in dosage, a dosage that won’t kill them. It will only make them look not so good.

32 posted on 12/15/2004 3:43:24 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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I'm sorry I have to leave this thread, but I have to attend to a very sick pet. I will continue to read this thread tomorrow. Please have a good evening.

My best regards.

33 posted on 12/15/2004 3:48:19 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Thought I'd ping you and remind you that you nailed this one last week. My congratulations.


34 posted on 12/15/2004 3:49:35 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Poohbah

"He would have died within a few days and nobody would ever, ever have thought of dioxins."

"Except that nobody's actually died from dioxin exposure. They don't have any idea what the lethal dose actually is!"


Actually, there is no way to say for a fact that nobody's actually died from dioxin exposure. Not every human that has died has been tested for dioxin exposure. All that can be said is what data that has been compiled at this point in time.


35 posted on 12/15/2004 3:50:17 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

"Actually, there is no way to say for a fact that nobody's actually died from dioxin exposure."

True......but nobody dies from HIV, either.

(think before you reply)


36 posted on 12/15/2004 3:59:05 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

"True......but nobody dies from HIV, either.

(think before you reply)"

Apples and oranges, 'HIV' and dioxin, maybe you should practice what you demand.



37 posted on 12/15/2004 4:20:06 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Poohbah
If that was their goal, which I doubt. The KGB didn't f*** around with half-measures, they just made sure their target was deader'n dog crap.

Either the KGB has really gone downhill, or (my favorite hypothesis) Yushchenko did this to himself, a la Kerri Dunn and the fake hate crime that she just got a year in the slammer for.

You obviously have never heard of the Ukrainian Josyp Teryla.

The KGB tried to kill him, but he had a mystic instance of being saved.

His book Witness tells of his ordeal and how they attempted to kill him, but failed. However, this is Christian reading, and that is where the mystic part comes in.

In the Bible, Jesus said that His followers would drink poisons, but live.

It is the 2000 year tradition of the Christian Church that 11 of the 12 Apostles [Paul replacing Judas Iscariot] died as Martyrs of the faith. The 12th was boiled in oil, but did not die [John the Evangelist].

All this science stuff is pretty flaky. Harvard still can't spell a 300 year dictionary made by a French priest that they published in 1833.

And they talk about the Minnesota electoral vote for Ewards...

39 posted on 12/15/2004 5:05:14 PM PST by topher
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