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Terrorist Alley: Terrorists using the Arizona/Mexico border to cross into the U.S.
KVOA Tuscon Eyewitness News 4 ^ | November 9, 2004 at 10:00PM MST | KVOA Tuscon Eyewitness News 4

Posted on 12/16/2004 9:23:29 AM PST by FBD

Good evening.

In August, The Investigators on Eyewitness News 4 first reported the possible threat of terrorists using the Arizona/Mexico border to cross into the U.S.

While local government officials and immigration advocates questioned the validity of such a threat, our report, "Terrorist Alley," gained national attention.

Just a few weeks ago, high-level sources told a Washington newspaper that Chechen terrorists have entered the U.S. through our state.

Now, we've uncovered even more evidence that the threat along our border is real.

"The story you did was 100% accurate. It showed what's happening on the border on a daily basis. It was completely accurate," says a Border Patrol agent.

This Southern Arizona Border Patrol agent came forward to talk with The Investigators about his concerns regarding homeland security along the Arizona/Mexico border. He does not want to be identified, but we've verified his employment through pay stubs and high-level sources.

As our cameras had captured this day, hundreds of illegal entrants sneak into Arizona from Mexico.

Items left behind, like a Muslim prayer rug and a diary written in Arabic have led some to believe not all crossers are from Central and South America.

In our original story.sources. including a former Border Patrol supervisor, say people from terrorist-related countries are crossing the border at will.

This agent says it's certainly happened, describing one incident with a detainee near Naco, Arizona.

"So they took him back to the Naco station for further investigating there, and when they entered his fingerprints into the AFIS database, which is maintained by the FBI, several minutes later they received a phone call from someone on the other end -- I'm not sure who it was."

"and they stated, whoever is working on this particular terminal, they need to separate that gentleman right away. He was later determined to be from Pakistan. And he had affiliations with a terrorist group. It wasn't al-Qaida, but it was another terrorist group and this gentleman was wanted out of France for trafficking in heroin."

And he details another incident.just a few months ago.

"We received intel that seven males of Middle-Eastern descent had entered the United States illegally, and they were here to carry out a terrorist attack on this country. I'd never seen the agency go to the level that we did as far as treating it with such urgency."

"and when we got that information we immediately sent agents to patrol the highways. We had never done anything like that before. And like I said before, within a week, there I am, watching the nightly news, and the terror threat was raised, and they actually showed pictures of these seven men who had reportedly entered the country. And that's when it kinda really hit me for the first time that it's really happening."

"We were told specifically that these people had terrorist pasts and they were coming here specifically to carry out a terrorist attack."

As far as we know, no arrests were ever made in that case, but this Border Patrol agent says he's been told that other terrorists are, perhaps, lying in wait south of the border.

"We know it's happening. We've seen it. We've actually received hard intelligence that they're there in Mexico. It's just a matter of trying to keep them from coming north."

This agent says, if terrorists want to cross, it's become too easy for them because of a severe lack of manpower in the Border Patrol.

"And there's just complete areas of fence that are missing, roads that lead north, well-traveled. I mean, you can tell the tire sign. A vehicle was there within the last day or two. Where they're going, who knows. And the worst part is what are they carrying. I would like to think it's just marijuana, because we can deal with that, but what if it's not?"

And he says other resources are desperately lacking and keeping agents from adequately protecting our border with Mexico.

"Over 50% of our vehicles at that station are out of service, or deferred for maintenance. If our cameras worked, which I would say well over 50% of them do not work at night, the infrared lenses are not functioning."

Even before new agents are deployed, he says, they're not prepared to fight illegal entry into this country.

"Some of our training, it lacks in that department. At the Academy we do three hours of training to determine if somebody is carrying fraudulent documents. And I can tell you from working the checkpoint, there are times people have given me documentation that I have absolutely no clue, as sad as it is to say that, what I'm looking at."

This agent says there's enormous pressure to rush people through checkpoints, and he says agents can't take adequate time to check out suspicious individuals because there are too many of them and too few agents.

He says the Border Patrol is at the mercy of bureaucrats in Washington who either don't realize the extent of the terrorist threat or who choose to deny it.

"Before September 11, I tell people 'yeah, you can make arguments for anything you wanted 'cause we were relatively safe, or we thought we were. After September 11, everything changed, and to continue to do business as if September 11 never happened, which is what we do in our agency, I don't think that's acceptable and I think people in Arizona need to know what's really happening

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As you might imagine, the Border Patrol has plenty to say about this agent's claims, and we'll talk with Arizona Senator Jon Kyl about what you just saw and heard tomorrow night at 10.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; alqaedamexico; arizona; bordersecurity; homelandsecurity; hutchinson; illegalimmigrants; immigration; mexico; mexicoalqaeda; terrorism; usborder; wot
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“ Reports from individuals in the Border Patrol say that 8,000 - 12,000 illegal aliens enter the Tucson sector every 12 hours““(May, 2004). BR> Source: http://www.desertinvasion.us/data/invasion_numbers.html

Arizona “border”
"FENCES MAKE GOOD NEIGHBORS"




Our "border" fence:
Real "secure border", huh?



Illegals on a stroll, ready to cross our "secure" barbed-wire fence border

AK-47 in drug smuggler's car.


Infrared night pictures of invasion through Coronado National Forest


Illegal immigration invasion near Cocaine Alley - Three Points, Arizona


Backpacks, discarded by narcotics "mules".


Tom Tancredo IN ACTION. Tom Tancredo is America's "Numero Uno Point Man " in Congress on Illegal Immigration. Please support him, and the members of the Immigration Reform Caucas.

Ilegals showing their love

The border in AZ. Three years after 9/11. Does that look secure?

12,000 illegals coming across the Mexican border, per day, this year.
That seem like an improved immigration policy to you?

"Cocaine Alley"

CRIME VICTIMS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS

The murder of Kris Eggle (see the separate page of collected articles), a park ranger in the Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument in southern Arizona on August 9, 2002, was little noted by the media, although the press has paid considerable attention to the deaths of illegal aliens on the border. By contrast, Ranger Eggle was shot down by Mexican drug dealers who were using Organ Pipe as a route for their smuggling. Only 28 when he was murdered, Eggle was a valedictorian and an Eagle Scout who joined the National Park Service because he loved the outdoors. (Organ Pipe is considered to be the most dangerous of the national park system: 200,000 illegal aliens and 700,000 pounds of drugs were intercepted at the park in 2001.)


1 posted on 12/16/2004 9:23:30 AM PST by FBD
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To: Happy2BMe

PING this subject needs to get more fully exposed in order for something to change

Happy, would you mind pinging "the usual suspects" to this thread?

Thanks


2 posted on 12/16/2004 9:27:12 AM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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To: FBD

If we give them all IDs, then they won't be illegal....


3 posted on 12/16/2004 9:27:41 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: FBD

An open, unsecured border is the handmaiden of terrorism. And when our leaders fail to secure our border, they are doing the biding of Osama bin Laden.

We need to militarize the border.

And the answer to illegal immigration is very simple. DETER, DETECT, DETAIN, DEPORT.


4 posted on 12/16/2004 9:29:35 AM PST by nj26
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To: FBD

"He says the Border Patrol is at the mercy of bureaucrats in Washington who either don't realize the extent of the terrorist threat or who choose to deny it. "


Hmmm...could that be ASSA HUTCHINSON?!? (see other threads below)

I really dislike this guy.


5 posted on 12/16/2004 9:30:39 AM PST by worldclass
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To: FBD
Here are some things the US must do:

1. Close border, institute real checkpoints all along the border with Mexico and Canada

2. Start a media blitz all over the US airways, radio, TV and newspapers, about how if you see illegals report them to the police. In addition, a campaign should be started telling businesses not to hire illegal immigrants as it hurts them (as they will be fined greatly if they do) and the fact it hurts the country as well.

3. In addition, as already mentioned, the US government should punish businesses who hire illegal immigrants

4. Start an amnesty whereas illegals and/or their employees come forward and the illegals are deported and the employers are not punished.

5. After that work to deport all illegals and punish the employers

6. There are big security dangers coming from these terrible borders and Americans will pay greatly in the future, have no doubt. You have no idea what kind of people may be coming in through that Mexico-US and Canada-US borders.
6 posted on 12/16/2004 9:31:03 AM PST by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: nj26; stuartcr; FBD
Our next/44th President of The United States of America

Tom Tancredo for President 2008: "Our Last and Only Hope to Save AMERICA."

7 posted on 12/16/2004 9:31:46 AM PST by nanak (Tom Tancredo 2008:Last Hope to Save America)
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To: stuartcr

"If we give them all IDs, then they won't be illegal"

How are we going to confirm their identity when they are issued this "id" to non-citizens? Trust the Mexican birth certificates which are bought and sold for $20 on the streets of Tijuana or Juarez?


8 posted on 12/16/2004 9:32:26 AM PST by nj26
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To: FBD

Good luck getting our Congress-critters to listen. They've been brainwashed by this "undocumented workers are only coming here to work in jobs that Americans don't want" crap. That nonsense ranks right up there with the "religion of peace" propaganda.


9 posted on 12/16/2004 9:32:41 AM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: nanak

Amen, FRiend. Amen.


10 posted on 12/16/2004 9:33:07 AM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: Marine Inspector; JackelopeBreeder

Ping.


11 posted on 12/16/2004 9:33:19 AM PST by martin_fierro (Let's Droll!)
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To: nj26; Dane; bayourod
Or just build a 20 ft high wall, like the Chinese did, to keep out the Mongols...
But guys like Dane and bayourod are opposed to that.
Right guys?

AK-47 in drug smuggler's car.


Infrared night pictures of invasion through Coronado National Forest

12 posted on 12/16/2004 9:33:50 AM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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Comment #13 Removed by Moderator

To: stuartcr

14 posted on 12/16/2004 9:34:43 AM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: FBD
There must be some mistake the Mexicons are our friends, they only come here to do jobs that no one else will do there is no crime, no terrorists they don't form gangs, I'm shocked.
15 posted on 12/16/2004 9:35:08 AM PST by keysguy (Trust the media as far as you can throw them)
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To: Prime Choice

"Good luck getting our Congress-critters to listen. They've been brainwashed by this "undocumented workers are only coming here to work in jobs that Americans don't want" crap. That nonsense ranks right up there with the "religion of peace" propaganda."

Michelle Malkin: "Political correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism."

Next step after illegal alien amnesty for Mexicans: open borders with Syria, Algeria, and Egypt.


16 posted on 12/16/2004 9:35:10 AM PST by nj26
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To: WineGuy
Why don't we all go out and snap pictures of large groups of illegals gathered on street corners waiting for illegal work and post the pictures with the exact location here?

Two reasons:

  1. Law enforcement and the legislature still wouldn't do jack about it.
  2. The ACLU would sue your butt in a heartbeat for "racial profiling."

17 posted on 12/16/2004 9:36:04 AM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: FBD

It isn't just about doing things to protect against illegals coming in. Its also about stiffening and actually doing something to greatly punish those who hire and give them cover in the US.


18 posted on 12/16/2004 9:36:07 AM PST by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: FBD

Bttt


19 posted on 12/16/2004 9:37:47 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: yonif

"It isn't just about doing things to protect against illegals coming in. Its also about stiffening and actually doing something to greatly punish those who hire and give them cover in the US."

I actually think a well-organized boycott against a major U.S. company that is caught employing illegals might really send a message. Not only to corporations, but also to our politicians.

I am also hoping that Hillary's musings on her "adamant" opposition to illegal immigration scare our political leaders into action. I'm not counting on it, though.


20 posted on 12/16/2004 9:38:18 AM PST by nj26
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To: FBD
8,000 - 12,000 illegal aliens enter the Tucson sector every 12 hours

F'ing insane. The entire CA/SA population is coming across our border.

21 posted on 12/16/2004 9:39:21 AM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: FBD
8,000 - 12,000 illegal aliens enter the Tucson sector every 12 hours

F'ing insane. The entire CA/SA population is coming across our border.

22 posted on 12/16/2004 9:40:10 AM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: Semaphore Heathcliffe

don't make me say it again...


23 posted on 12/16/2004 9:40:33 AM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: Howlin

H - can you ping your people? I think it is time we conservatives rose up and demanded the borders be secured.


24 posted on 12/16/2004 9:43:34 AM PST by Endeavor
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To: FBD
In the past the US has often emulated what Israel does security wise since theirs is so far superior to ours. They can't afford huge mistakes or they disappear. Currently they are building huge fence around their border. We could do the same, "enriched" by balls of barbed razor wire and patrolled by drones with soldiers every 1/4 mile armed with automatic weapons and encouraged to shoot as would any other country in this hemisphere other than Cannaduhh.
25 posted on 12/16/2004 9:43:37 AM PST by keysguy (Trust the media as far as you can throw them)
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To: FBD; NewRomeTacitus; gubamyster

I wouldn't ping this article, guys, it is word-for-word a rehash of their report in August and has been posted on FR at least twice between then and now.

This was probably done to set the stage for tomorrow's guest.

I don't want to downplay the seriousness of the claims, but I'm thinking we don't need to rehash them now...


26 posted on 12/16/2004 9:43:41 AM PST by HiJinx ( www.ProudPatriots.com ~ Operation Valentine's Day ~ 1/1/05 to 1/21/05)
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To: FBD

Here are some more sites to see what exactly is happening on our borders.


http://www.americanpatrol.com
http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.html
http://www.predatoryaliens.com
http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/index.php?page=border_news&story_id=110504a1_recividism_new
http://www.warriorsfortruth.com/borderillegals.html
http://securedbordersusa.com/PETITION.htm
http://alipac.us


27 posted on 12/16/2004 9:43:49 AM PST by Ginifer
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To: FBD

We're screwed. The enemy is within the walls, and more coming in every day.


28 posted on 12/16/2004 9:43:57 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm
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To: yonif

All of your ideas are great. Unfortunately, they won't be implemented until AFTER one or more of our cities is nuked.


29 posted on 12/16/2004 9:44:22 AM PST by badbass
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To: stuartcr

30 posted on 12/16/2004 9:45:37 AM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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To: badbass

The media campaign I was talking about is going on in Israel right now, where there are constantly articles about dozens of illegals caught by immigration police. Israeli radio stations have commercials warning businesses not to hire illegals or they will be punished.


31 posted on 12/16/2004 9:45:44 AM PST by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: Prime Choice

They can't sue all of our butts. I think we can put together a nationwide grass roots group to push this into action. That will not only scare the politicians, but get something done. I pledge that I will give my time to become involved in such a group here.


32 posted on 12/16/2004 9:46:14 AM PST by Endeavor
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To: 7.62 x 51mm; BadAss

I think you're right, we're screwed with those who are here. And sadly, it may take another disaster. But I don't want to wait for that. I want something done NOW. If we band together and approach the right people, like Malkin and others in the conservative firmament, then I think we can get this done. At the least, we can expose the jerks in Congress who aren't willing to do one thing about it.


33 posted on 12/16/2004 9:48:25 AM PST by Endeavor
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To: yonif

you can do that here:

http://www.reportillegals.com/


34 posted on 12/16/2004 9:48:30 AM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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To: FBD

The shame of this whole thing is that it is totally predictable and totally preventable.

Bush will be held totally accountable for a terrorist attack that was caused be terrorists crossing SOB.
He has known about the problem since he was Governor of Texas.
If am Bush, I am telling V. Fox that the free lunch program is over.


35 posted on 12/16/2004 9:49:13 AM PST by t-1000
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To: FBD
RE: The seven terrorists alert from May 2004:

"Intelligence officials said a suspected al Qaeda leader who has been in the United States was spotted recently in Mexico . Officials believe Adnan Shukrijumah, whom the FBI wants for questioning, met with alien smugglers in Mexico and Honduras and was seeking ways to bring al Qaeda members into the United States . Shukrijumah was seen in August in the Sonora province of northern Mexico, officials said.

Since October 2003, authorities have arrested five Arabs attempting to cross illegally into the United States from Mexico .

Chechen terrorists probed

October 13, 2004
By Bill Gertz
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

36 posted on 12/16/2004 9:50:27 AM PST by angkor
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To: nj26

Doesn't matter, at least it will bring the statistics for illegals down.


37 posted on 12/16/2004 9:50:40 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: Endeavor

We're starting an operation here on the border in April...

Did you see JackelopeBreeder's post last night? If not, I'll hunt up a link for you.


38 posted on 12/16/2004 9:51:46 AM PST by HiJinx ( www.ProudPatriots.com ~ Operation Valentine's Day ~ 1/1/05 to 1/21/05)
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To: FBD

Nice website. But the real progress will come if there is an organized government campaign where you go straight to a willing government.


39 posted on 12/16/2004 9:51:58 AM PST by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: HiJinx

a lot of folks have't seen the article. It needs exposure.
regards


40 posted on 12/16/2004 9:52:51 AM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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To: FBD
Anyone know what the deal is with I-9 forms, or what ever they are called? It is a form that employers are supposed to complete to verify proof of identity and nationality for any person taking a job. I used to hire workers at a former place of work and examining and photocopying two forms of ID and completing the form was always done there. Granted, ID can be faked, but if there was anything suspicious I would call a number at social security to verify that the number was a good one and belonged to the name on the card.

Point is: why doesn't the government start inspecting companies for I-9 compliance and then fine the snot out of those not following the rules? If it isn't financially advantageous to hire illegals then the hiring will stop and the terrorists won't have this smoke screen to hide in.

As for the border itself, hate me if you will, but I say put the Army down there and shoot any thing that crosses illegally.
41 posted on 12/16/2004 9:53:51 AM PST by WmDonovan (http://www.geocities.com/thelawndaletimes)
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To: yonif

agreed.


42 posted on 12/16/2004 9:54:51 AM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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To: FBD

Start building the walls now..


43 posted on 12/16/2004 9:59:20 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: FBD
Ironically,

1) the terrorists will probably come down across the Canadian border into sovereign Native American tribal land in N.Y. and proceed from there

2) The Mexicans kill Guatamalans, Costa Ricans, etc....regularly on their southern border. The Columbians are aware of this and fly in.

There is an area known as "OTM" (Other than Mexican) on our southern border where the Mexicans will be killed on their side of the border by other foreigners such as the Chicomm triad members, Middle Easterners, etc...The OTM is strictly for non-Mexican crossing. The Mexican "police" look the other way since they are well paid.

45 posted on 12/16/2004 10:01:36 AM PST by MattinNJ (Only Arnold would have the stones to say Nixon was the reason he was a Republican.)
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To: Endeavor

Tancredo tried to, but get bitch-slapped by W and Rove. Until Bush takes the initiative, no GOPers are going to touch it.


46 posted on 12/16/2004 10:01:41 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm
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To: Chemist_Geek

How do you respond to this?


47 posted on 12/16/2004 10:02:35 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: WineGuy; yonif; DoctorMichael; nj26; HiJinx; 7.62 x 51mm; ApesForEvolution; bayourod; Dane; ...
>"Why don't we all go out and snap pictures of large groups of illegals gathered on street corners waiting for illegal work and post the pictures with the exact location here?"<
You can do that here:
(Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
http://www.reportillegals.com/


48 posted on 12/16/2004 10:06:49 AM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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To: bullseye876

interesting, do you have that achived anywhere?


49 posted on 12/16/2004 10:09:35 AM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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To: Ginifer

thanks for those links


50 posted on 12/16/2004 10:11:37 AM PST by FBD (Report illegals and their employers at: http://www.reportillegals.com/)
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