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6-year-old boy shoots sister as she slept
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Posted on 12/16/2004 4:10:11 PM PST by Ellesu

CHANDLER, OK. -- A 9-year-old girl was shot while sleeping in her own bed. And her younger brother is the one who pulled the trigger.

It happened just before 8 a.m. Wednesday. The gunman is just 6-years-old.

Sheriff's deputies said the mother's rifle didn't have a lock on it, so all the boy had to do was grab the gun, load it, and shoot it. Luckily, though, he was just a little off the mark.

"My granddaughter is 9-years-old," said Ronny Jones. "We could have buried her today."

It's a wake-up call Ronny and Glenda Jones will never forget. Officers said their grandson, Caleb, used a 22-caliber rifle to shoot their grand-daughter, his sister, Courtney, while she slept.

"When I first heard, I was told she was shot in the head," Glenda Jones said.

According to Chester Duncan, spokesman for the Lincoln Co. Sheriff's Dept., "apparently her 6-year-old brother had went to the mother's bedroom, where a cabinet was located. The 6-year-old then grabbed a hold of the rifle."

Duncan said the boy loaded the gun, then took it to the bedroom where his sister was sleeping, pointed it at her and pulled the trigger.

The bullet went straight through Courtney's left hip. Luckily, it bypassed any of her vital muscle tissues. And it's a good thing the 6-year-old was a bad shot. Ronny Jones said the young boy had two more bullets in his hand and was ready to reload and shoot again.

"The particular gun he used is so old it won't eject any empty shells," Ronny Jones said. "Therefore, you have to take a knife or something and dig the empty shell out before you can reload."

Caleb's grandparents said their grandson seems to have little remorse for what he's done. They're not even sure if he even realizes he nearly used a bullet to end to his sister's life.

"We think he's just maybe playing out his anger," Ronny Jones said. "He's got problems right now because of his father walking out."

Courtney is recovering at Children's hospital. She should be released in the coming days. Courtney's brother, Caleb, will soon undergo extensive counseling.


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1 posted on 12/16/2004 4:10:11 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: Ellesu

idiot gun owners.


2 posted on 12/16/2004 4:11:30 PM PST by Smogger
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To: Ellesu

"The Bad Seed".


3 posted on 12/16/2004 4:11:55 PM PST by MisterRepublican ("I must go. I must be elusive.")
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To: Ellesu

It sounds like little Caleb has a lot of serious "issues".


4 posted on 12/16/2004 4:12:08 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: Ellesu
No doubt it's a bad gene.
5 posted on 12/16/2004 4:14:00 PM PST by b4its2late (It was so cold here today I saw a lawyer with his hands in his own pockets.)
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To: Bahbah

Yah...in 20 years, he might very well be a murderer in fact...if not sooner. Sad.


6 posted on 12/16/2004 4:15:10 PM PST by exnavychick (Just my two cents, as usual.)
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To: Ellesu

Little Caleb needs to "undergo" some serious asswhippin!


7 posted on 12/16/2004 4:15:53 PM PST by dc-zoo
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To: Ellesu

Worst thing I ever did to my sister was to clamp a jumper cable on her rear end. I got to choose my own switch.


8 posted on 12/16/2004 4:16:25 PM PST by steveo (Member: Fathers Against Rude Television)
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To: b4its2late

...will undergo extensive counseling.

I hope those adults lock their guns up and I wonder if they will be charged with some type of negligence.


9 posted on 12/16/2004 4:17:10 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: Ellesu

, Caleb, will soon undergo extensive counseling.

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Well duh!


10 posted on 12/16/2004 4:18:05 PM PST by kingsurfer
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To: Ellesu
his father walking out
11 posted on 12/16/2004 4:20:51 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: Ellesu
"We think he's just maybe playing out his anger," Ronny Jones said. "He's got problems right now because of his father walking out."

Well he's got to get over it real quick. Sounds like he was trying to kill his sister.

12 posted on 12/16/2004 4:20:52 PM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Ellesu

Just damn! I think the girl is probably alive because the creeped-out brother picked up the gun. The gun jammed after one shot. If he'd used a kitchen knife, it's much more likely that he would have killed her.


13 posted on 12/16/2004 4:21:43 PM PST by Tax-chick (Jesus is the reason for the seaon which begins at sundown on December 24.)
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To: annyokie

OK ping.

p.s., I'm putting your card in the mail tomorrow ... supplier dropped off the envelopes this afternoon!


14 posted on 12/16/2004 4:22:35 PM PST by Tax-chick (Jesus is the reason for the seaon which begins at sundown on December 24.)
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To: Smogger
I've got a dozen weapons on the wall. The ammo is locked up in a gun vault. Except for two Sigs in handgun safes. One in my home office, the other in my bedroom. Our kids are in their mid twenties, excellent shots, extremely gun savvy and very safe. I keep the personal protection armor locked up anyway. Four touch prints on the handgun safes take less than 4 seconds to open. Six magazines each.

And I go to the range twice a week. Full size silouettes.

Two to the chest... one to the head.

Getting to the point I can hit these target points from close to the hip.

Kimbers, Sigs and Glocks are my guns de jour. Our black powder .50 cal stuff is too messy, but fun for playtime.

Now let me tell you about Hoppe's #9... Great gift for your wife.

Merry Christmas. An expression of good cheer to all of us on Free Republic. To Phil, (my Jewish friend) MERRY CHRISTMAS! BTW, Phil we Christians are still trying to figger out to spell channukkah, hannukah....? Good fun messing with the Jews. Phil, did y'all get that Uzi for your birthday?

15 posted on 12/16/2004 4:23:20 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: dc-zoo

No this child is maladjusted, there's a screw loose in

this kid's head

It's not your average "Lets play with Daddy's gun" Life Time movie material,

The kid was ready to reload,


16 posted on 12/16/2004 4:25:56 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Support our troops.........)
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To: Ellesu
Caleb's grandparents said their grandson seems to have little remorse for what he's done. They're not even sure if he even realizes he nearly used a bullet to end to his sister's life.

I'm sorry but a six year old ought to be real clear about this. My five year old already understands about dying and has a real clear idea about what guns do.

Unless the kid is severely retarded, he knows exactly what he did.

17 posted on 12/16/2004 4:30:25 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Are they sure the daddy walked out?


18 posted on 12/16/2004 4:31:57 PM PST by bdfromlv (leavenworth hard time)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Not knowing the difference between right and wrong is a direct result of no parental dicipline and possible early exposure to violent movies and/or video games.


19 posted on 12/16/2004 4:33:39 PM PST by dc-zoo
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To: ModelBreaker
Serial Killers often display similar tendencies in their childhood, Like Little remorse Caleb needs to be institutionalized
20 posted on 12/16/2004 4:34:25 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Support our troops.........)
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To: Ellesu
apparently her 6-year-old brother had went to the mother's bedroom, where a cabinet was located. The 6-year-old then grabbed a hold of the rifle

Aaaaaah, literacy !

21 posted on 12/16/2004 4:34:38 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: Ellesu
"The particular gun he used is so old it won't eject any empty shells," Ronny Jones said. "Therefore, you have to take a knife or something and dig the empty shell out before you can reload."

It is time to retire this particular gun before someone else gets hurt.
22 posted on 12/16/2004 4:35:48 PM PST by Logophile
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To: Cobra64

So Cobra, are ya a firearms fan by any chance??? :)


23 posted on 12/16/2004 4:35:56 PM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: Ellesu

"The particular gun he used is so old it won't eject any empty shells," Ronny Jones said. "Therefore, you have to take a knife or something and dig the empty shell out before you can reload."

Absolute idiots. I'm sure the barrel is in no better condition. Aside from all the basic safety precautions, what are they even doing with a gun in this kind of condition? Did they never hear the term 'jam' as in the bullet getting jammed in the corroded barrel and the next shot causing an explosion?


24 posted on 12/16/2004 4:36:46 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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To: bdfromlv

lol!


25 posted on 12/16/2004 4:36:54 PM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: TheOracleAtLilac

Makes you wonder what kind of neanderthal wrote the article.


26 posted on 12/16/2004 4:37:07 PM PST by dc-zoo
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To: Ellesu
I hope those adults lock their guns up

Locking 'em up might deter a 6 year old. But 9 or 12 years olds can often figure out how to get them out anyway. The only answer is education. A 6 year old is not too young to teach both the Eddie Eagle message, and some safe gun handling rules for when their is an adult in attendence. They even make a couple of little bitty .22 rifles sized for kids that young.

27 posted on 12/16/2004 4:38:38 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: Logophile
It is time to retire this particular gun before someone else gets hurt.

Sounds like a broken extractor, easily fixed. Lets blame the kid and parents not the gun.

28 posted on 12/16/2004 4:39:50 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: Smogger
HuH the kid takes the gun loads and shoots the sister. Its the gun owners fault.

Sounds to me like its the kids fault.

Locking up guns and triggers locks are just another Anti gun measure pushed by the Anit's.

Those of you who think that you need to lock your guns up to keep them out of the hands of wrong doers are just falling into the anti's hands.

29 posted on 12/16/2004 4:40:25 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: Ellesu
How does a 6 year-old kid know how to use a real gun? And why were they in such an easily accessible place - with ammo??
30 posted on 12/16/2004 4:41:03 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Absolute idiots. I'm sure the barrel is in no better condition. Aside from all the basic safety precautions, what are they even doing with a gun in this kind of condition? Did they never hear the term 'jam' as in the bullet getting jammed in the corroded barrel and the next shot causing an explosion?

Great minds thinking alike again.
31 posted on 12/16/2004 4:41:16 PM PST by Logophile
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To: El Gato

That will work with normal children. From the sounds of this incident, Caleb has a lot more than issues and the message would be wasted on him. Sounds like Caleb needs a lot of time spent in a residential unit lock down ward. If I were his sister I would refuse to go home with him in the house.


32 posted on 12/16/2004 4:43:17 PM PST by MKM1960
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To: Ellesu

This kid isn't ever going be right again (if he was before). No amount of counseling is going to fix it. This girl is doomed if he ever gets to come home. How could you ever sleep again with him around?


33 posted on 12/16/2004 4:43:30 PM PST by GOP_Proud ("Get your hands off him!" (President George W. Bush))
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To: Logophile

http://www.kotv.com/main/home/stories.asp?whichpage=1&id=74370

another link...Paw Paw broke the gun in half.


34 posted on 12/16/2004 4:44:44 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: All

This is not about guns being locked or unlocked. This kid is in need of serious help. Notice how they make excuses for him, such as " He is acting out his anger right now " in reference to his father being gone. Why would you shoot your sister because your father walks out. This kid knew what he was doing. Locked up or not, he would have used something else to try to kill his sister. A knife doesn't jam and would have worked quite well for that purpose. He might figure that out next time. By the way, guns in my parents house were never locked up but we knew better than to touch them without supervision. I keep all my ammo locked up, but only because I don't trust other people and their children. Mine our grown now and never thought about shooting anyone. It is a social problem not a gun problem. Little serial killer developing here.


35 posted on 12/16/2004 4:45:49 PM PST by calex59
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To: Ellesu; Eaker; RikaStrom
so all the boy had to do was grab the gun, load it, and shoot it.

Definately an accident.
Gun locks would have prevented this, loading can sometimes happen spontaneously.

< / sarcasm >

36 posted on 12/16/2004 4:47:15 PM PST by humblegunner (And who knows what else?)
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To: El Gato

Agree, and I bet little Caleb had already shown some warning signs that he's got a screw loose.


37 posted on 12/16/2004 4:48:06 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: El Gato
Sounds like a broken extractor, easily fixed. Lets blame the kid and parents not the gun.

I understand your point and agree with you.

However, these gun owners apparently had not bothered to repair the extractor, but were accustomed to "digging out" spent cartridges with a knife or other implement. That is another indication they are not too big on gun safety. (That, and leaving the weapon where a disturbed 6-year-old could get it and its ammunition.)
38 posted on 12/16/2004 4:48:38 PM PST by Logophile
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To: Ellesu

saw it on tv.


39 posted on 12/16/2004 4:48:56 PM PST by ken21 (kerrycide = running 4 president on treasonous service in vietnam)
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To: Ellesu
Another statistic of the "Do Your Own Thang And It's All Nobody's Business" adult-centric culture which the moral-liberals have foisted upon society.
40 posted on 12/16/2004 4:48:58 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: LauraleeBraswell

It certainly does sound like he knew exactly what he was doing and meant to kill his sister --- not just injure her.


41 posted on 12/16/2004 4:49:16 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Ellesu
Caleb, will soon undergo extensive counseling.

Hopefully as an in-patient in a secure facility.

42 posted on 12/16/2004 4:50:18 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: calex59
This is not about guns being locked or unlocked. This kid is in need of serious help. Notice how they make excuses for him, such as " He is acting out his anger right now " in reference to his father being gone. Why would you shoot your sister because your father walks out. This kid knew what he was doing. Locked up or not, he would have used something else to try to kill his sister. A knife doesn't jam and would have worked quite well for that purpose. He might figure that out next time. By the way, guns in my parents house were never locked up but we knew better than to touch them without supervision. I keep all my ammo locked up, but only because I don't trust other people and their children. Mine our grown now and never thought about shooting anyone. It is a social problem not a gun problem. Little serial killer developing here.

I fear you may be right.
43 posted on 12/16/2004 4:51:16 PM PST by Logophile
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To: MKM1960
I knew a child when we lived in West Tennessee whom I would swear had no soul. He was almost robotic in his speech and physical mannerisms. His expressions were lifeless. His eyes just dark. Over a period of time he became a danger to him and others around him. No amount of parenting was going to cure this child of what ailed him. Sad and scary.
44 posted on 12/16/2004 4:54:52 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: gov_bean_ counter

http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/4000021/detail.html
video link


45 posted on 12/16/2004 4:57:44 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: cyncooper

I think the sister may be the one that will need some counseling, it's to late for little Cain.


46 posted on 12/16/2004 4:59:50 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: Logophile
If this gun was that messed up, he is lucky it didn't blow up in his face.

Back in high school, one of my substitute teachers was blind due to a shotgun exploding in his face.

47 posted on 12/16/2004 4:59:51 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. - John Adams)
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To: El Gato
their there. I hate it when my fingers get ahead of my brain. :)
48 posted on 12/16/2004 5:00:06 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: dc-zoo
the reporter was quoting the Sheriff's Spokesman
49 posted on 12/16/2004 5:00:22 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: DTogo

I have 2 rifles and 2 shotguns in my unlocked closet...Along with the necessary ammo...Must be a real mystery how my kids grew up without all of us killing each other with these weapons...


50 posted on 12/16/2004 5:00:25 PM PST by Iscool (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of those who threaten it !!!)
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