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Stem Cells From Fat Used to Repair Skull
AP via Yahoo ^ | 17 December 2004 | MALCOLM RITTER

Posted on 12/17/2004 2:55:15 AM PST by MikefromOhio

Surgeons have used stem cells from fat to help repair skull damage in a 7-year-old girl in Germany, in what's apparently the first time such fat-derived cells have been exploited to grow bone in a human.

The girl had been injured two years before in a fall, which destroyed several areas of her skull totaling nearly 19 square inches, the German researchers reported.

Other surgeons had failed to correct the defects, and the girl wore a protective helmet. Her brain could sometimes be seen pulsating through the missing areas of her skull.

But several weeks after the stem-cell surgery, she was able to leave her helmet behind, the researchers report in the December issue of the Journal of Cranio-Maxillofacial Surgery. The skull is now smooth to the touch, the missing parts replaced by thin but solid bone, said Dr. Hans-Peter Howaldt of the Justus-Liebig-University Medical School in Giessen, Germany. The child was not identified.

Howaldt, who performed the surgery last year, said the damage was too extensive to be repaired with bone grafts from her body. He said the hope was that if bits of the child's bone were mixed with stem cells, the cells would turn into bone-building cells that would create additional bone.

That appears to have happened, Howaldt said in a telephone interview Thursday.

"I cannot prove that our success comes from the stem cells alone," he said, "but the combination of the two things simply worked."

In August, other German doctors reported growing a jaw bone in a man's back muscle and transplanting it to his mouth to fill a gap left by cancer surgery. The researchers used bone marrow, which also contains stem cells, to help grow the bone. But it's not clear whether the stem cells were responsible for the bone growth.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adultstemcells; bone; bonebuilding; bonegrowth; fat; fatcell; germany; hanspeterhowaldt; healthcare; skull; stemcell; stemcells
I hadn't seen this posted yet.

I think that as this stem cell issue gets more study, we will find that the stem cells from many parts of adult humans will do the trick, not just unborn baby stem cells.

1 posted on 12/17/2004 2:55:16 AM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: MikeinIraq
I'll dispense with the "fathead" jokes.

Wouldn't it be ironic if body fat, a substance as common as idiocy at a MoveOn convention, turns out to be the very thing that saves us all?

2 posted on 12/17/2004 3:00:25 AM PST by asgardshill ("We march by day and read Xenophon by night.")
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To: asgardshill

well then in that case this fatbutt country of ours will save the World!! :)

yeah that would be very very ironic


3 posted on 12/17/2004 3:01:37 AM PST by MikefromOhio (24 days until I can leave Iraq and stop selling hotdogs in Baghdad....and boycotting boycotts)
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To: asgardshill
An excellent candidate for a donor...


4 posted on 12/17/2004 3:05:48 AM PST by Recovering Hermit
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To: MikeinIraq

Maybe now we can cure Michael Moore.


5 posted on 12/17/2004 3:05:49 AM PST by Nick Danger (America has more income tax preparers than soldiers in the Army.)
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To: Recovering Hermit

You dirty rat. By one second ! :)


6 posted on 12/17/2004 3:06:17 AM PST by Nick Danger (America has more income tax preparers than soldiers in the Army.)
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To: Nick Danger

asgard got ya man....

not only him, but algore now too :)


7 posted on 12/17/2004 3:07:13 AM PST by MikefromOhio (24 days until I can leave Iraq and stop selling hotdogs in Baghdad....and boycotting boycotts)
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To: MikeinIraq
I don't have time to read the entire article, but I noticed one word missing from the excerpt: "embryonic."

Exactly what type of stem cells are these?

8 posted on 12/17/2004 3:08:11 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (Liberals love minorities...as long as they stay in their place. Ask Ted Rall. Ask Harry Reid.)
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To: L.N. Smithee

they are stem cells from fat....which every living human being has. and they generally have to many of them....


9 posted on 12/17/2004 3:09:29 AM PST by MikefromOhio (24 days until I can leave Iraq and stop selling hotdogs in Baghdad....and boycotting boycotts)
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To: Recovering Hermit
Please - not until I've had my first cup of coffee at least :)

But you're right - that source alone should render down to provide enough stem cells to cure every ailment down through ho-hum mouth in the US for the next 25 years.

10 posted on 12/17/2004 3:12:10 AM PST by asgardshill ("We march by day and read Xenophon by night.")
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To: MikeinIraq

You just watch: the lack of distinction of these cells as not from embryos will lead this report to be used to boost embryonic cell research.


11 posted on 12/17/2004 3:22:16 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (Liberals love minorities...as long as they stay in their place. Ask Ted Rall. Ask Harry Reid.)
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To: Recovering Hermit

Sorry I don't think so..... yuck!!!!!!!!!!


12 posted on 12/17/2004 3:24:47 AM PST by .45MAN ("God bless America and George W. Bush")
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To: L.N. Smithee

I would bet on that in the near term. But as I stated, I think as the entire subject gets more study, the differences will cancel out, and any stem cell will be able to do what any other stem cell can do.

At least that is my guess right now. As medical science improves, the boundaries will greatly decrease...


13 posted on 12/17/2004 3:26:15 AM PST by MikefromOhio (24 days until I can leave Iraq and stop selling hotdogs in Baghdad....and boycotting boycotts)
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To: MikeinIraq
This is a microcosm of the public school system.

This kid went from having a big bulging brain to a fathead in a few weeks

14 posted on 12/17/2004 4:20:27 AM PST by Cowman
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To: MikeinIraq

This article fails to mention the richest, most available source of stem cells, umbilical cords, which have been generally tossed out after the baby is born. Just think what we could do with THAT if skull bone was grown with ordinary fat stem cells? Wow. I just wish more people would educate themselves about the benefits of saving umbilical cords for future use.

In short, there is NO scientific reason to use embryos to obtain stem cells. It is a great tragedy that again, the left will "sell" embryonic stem cells as the only legitimate stem cells, when it is so patently not true.


15 posted on 12/17/2004 4:35:36 AM PST by alwaysconservative (LOLOLOLOLOLOL!)
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To: alwaysconservative

the left is taking a horrible gamble in risking the lives of our unborn by experimenting on them. It is wrong on all counts, especially as other types of stem cells are showing the same remarkable qualities as embryonic stem cells are....


16 posted on 12/17/2004 4:39:10 AM PST by MikefromOhio (24 days until I can leave Iraq and stop selling hotdogs in Baghdad....and boycotting boycotts)
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To: MikeinIraq

Good find. I understand that a University in Toronto, IIRC, has made significant progress in the use of adult stem cells. They are rejected by the patient at a much lower rate then fetal cells.


17 posted on 12/17/2004 4:41:53 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Political correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism.)
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To: ovrtaxt

the issue needs to be studied further.

Never know what we may find....


18 posted on 12/17/2004 4:52:12 AM PST by MikefromOhio (24 days until I can leave Iraq and stop selling hotdogs in Baghdad....and boycotting boycotts)
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To: ovrtaxt

And if you use your own stem cells, the risk of rejection is almost nil. That's why I keep harping on using other than embryonic stem cells.

It's similar to a situation I had a few years ago. I had surgery scheduled and one of the options explained to me was to donate my own blood beforehand to give back to myself during the procedure, called autologous transfer. I did it and bounced back almost immediately, the best results of a surgery ever, for me.


19 posted on 12/17/2004 5:06:08 AM PST by alwaysconservative (LOLOLOLOLOLOL!)
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To: alwaysconservative

Wouldn't it be cool if we could grow our own organs for transplant?


20 posted on 12/17/2004 5:07:52 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Political correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism.)
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To: MikeinIraq

Good as I become too old to donate blood, I can donate a couple of pounds of fat every couple of months and feel good about it.


21 posted on 12/17/2004 5:56:01 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Rummy Phobia is the new mental disorder of the left. It is similiar to Hate GW Syndrome!)
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To: MikeinIraq

So we're not overweight, greedy, sloppy Americans - we're stem cell colonies for the rest of the world!


22 posted on 12/17/2004 5:57:38 AM PST by Hardastarboard
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To: Recovering Hermit

If fat donation becomes as common as blood donations, beside the drug donor/gay sex questions, they should ask if the donor is a left wing lunatic or a republican.

The last thing I would want is to receive a stemcell from someone like Michael Moore. He probably would want a donation from me.


23 posted on 12/17/2004 5:59:11 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Rummy Phobia is the new mental disorder of the left. It is similiar to Hate GW Syndrome!)
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To: Hardastarboard
A new tagline or bumper sticker.

I'm not fat nor overweight! I'm a Proud Stem Cell Producer/Donor!

24 posted on 12/17/2004 6:01:47 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Rummy Phobia is the new mental disorder of the left. It is similiar to Hate GW Syndrome!)
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To: MikeinIraq

It is my understanding that there have been quite a few successes in using stem cells from OTHER than embryonic sources. There have been NO successes I am yet aware of in using embryonic stem cells.


25 posted on 12/17/2004 6:25:19 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: alwaysconservative
And if you use your own stem cells, the risk of rejection is almost nil. That's why I keep harping on using other than embryonic stem cells.

I think the real push for embryonic stem cell research is driven by the idea that it can to remove the guilt from abortion.

Sure, there are some very earnest scientists who think it's necessary, but I suspect that most of the political heat is being generated by pro-aborts.

26 posted on 12/17/2004 6:29:10 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
I suspect that most of the political heat is being generated by pro-aborts

That could be... even tho', from what I've read, most embryonic stem cell lines come from "left-over" embryos that were created for in-vitro fertilization.

27 posted on 12/17/2004 6:45:11 AM PST by green iguana
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To: alwaysconservative
the richest, most available source of stem cells, umbilical cords, which have been generally tossed out after the baby is born

I wonder how long you could preserve your own umbilical cord? The placenta is supposed to be rich in stem cells too. BTW, it's interesting to note that since these cells come from the time when the baby is fully formed, they are considered to be adult stem cells.

28 posted on 12/17/2004 6:48:23 AM PST by green iguana
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To: MikeinIraq

Hey, I got plenty of fat cells to donate! Where do I sign up?


29 posted on 12/17/2004 7:08:26 AM PST by SuziQ (W: STILL the President)
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To: green iguana

Seven years ago, when I was pregnant with my daughter, I had tinkered with the idea of saving my daughter's umbilical cord with a lab. The "core blood," as they called it back then, was to be frozen for your personal needs (if my child or any future chidren ever needed a bone marrow transfusion, developed leukemia, etc., the core blood could be used treat her or her siblings because it would be a perfect match). It could be kept in freeze for a period 3-5 years, I believe.
At the time it was a very expensive procedure, because it involved immediately harvesting the cord after birth and flying it out to be frozen at one of the two national labs in existence. It really says something about the poor quality of my memory since I can't recall the name of the lab or the procedure, but I remember thinking how this was science working for the benefit of all mankind in a truly ethical manner, for once. I wonder if this option is still available, or has the lab now put its efforts into more "profitable" research.


30 posted on 12/17/2004 7:10:32 AM PST by two134711
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To: MikeinIraq

This story was carried on PMSNBC with a sidebar about embryonic stem cell research. The MSM is still lying to people about this, making them think there is a ban on all federal funding for all stem cell research and implying that all treatments that are discovered come from embryonic stem cells.


32 posted on 12/17/2004 10:41:53 AM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: MikeinIraq

Are they adult or infant fat cells? Oh well...I wouldn't object to taking some infant fat cells since he would live through that.

nice tagline...lol. I remember that thread.


33 posted on 12/17/2004 12:24:35 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: asgardshill
Wouldn't it be ironic if body fat, a substance as common as idiocy at a MoveOn convention, turns out to be the very thing that saves us all?

Very ironic. I certainly hope that stem cells can be obtained from a source other than a fetus.

34 posted on 12/17/2004 1:05:17 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

ping


35 posted on 12/17/2004 1:26:05 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I saw on CBS, Chinese doctors in China are using stem cells from aborted babies and injecting it in paralyzed people.


36 posted on 12/17/2004 1:46:32 PM PST by Lori675
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To: Lori675

They used parts of aborted babies for a lot of things. They actually buy aborted baby parts from the U.S.


37 posted on 12/17/2004 1:53:49 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: MikeinIraq

How about taking some cells from my thick skull to rejuvenate the old fat cells and help them get rid of themselves?

No seriously, this is very intersting and sheds more light on the fact there not only is embryonic stem cell research evil, it's not even useful.

Which makes one wonder, why do they want it so much?


38 posted on 12/17/2004 2:57:28 PM PST by little jeremiah (The "Gay Agenda" exists only in the minds of little jeremiah and his cohort. - Modern Man)
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To: L.N. Smithee
Exactly what type of stem cells are these?

Adult. From liposuction or such.

39 posted on 12/17/2004 4:08:07 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Lori675

They did that with Gloria estefan when she busted her back...


40 posted on 12/17/2004 4:29:18 PM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: rwfromkansas

yeah, and the guy that was after is still going at it on that thread. I am just ignoring him/being as sarcastic as I can with him because he is only trying to drive me off of FR, which isnt going to happen anytime soon.

23 days....


41 posted on 12/17/2004 8:09:30 PM PST by MikefromOhio (23 days until I can leave Iraq and stop selling hotdogs in Baghdad....and boycotting boycotts)
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To: rwfromkansas

yeah, and the guy that was after is still going at it on that thread. I am just ignoring him/being as sarcastic as I can with him because he is only trying to drive me off of FR, which isnt going to happen anytime soon.

23 days....


42 posted on 12/17/2004 8:09:31 PM PST by MikefromOhio (23 days until I can leave Iraq and stop selling hotdogs in Baghdad....and boycotting boycotts)
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To: bullseye876

I think they had already tried that....


43 posted on 12/17/2004 8:10:34 PM PST by MikefromOhio (23 days until I can leave Iraq and stop selling hotdogs in Baghdad....and boycotting boycotts)
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To: MikeinIraq; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...
Stem Cells From Fat Used to Repair Skull
 
Fat Looked At As Source For Stem Cells
 
Human Fat Stem Cells Yield Bone Cells
 
FAT MAY REPLACE EMBRYONIC TISSUE AS PRIME SOURCE FOR STEM CELL RESEARCH
 
Study: Fat May Be Stem Cells Source
 
Fat: Source of Stem Cells ~~ Eh Oak Hay !!!

44 posted on 12/19/2004 1:52:44 PM PST by Coleus (I support ethical, effective and safe stem cell research and use: adult, umbilical cord, bone marrow)
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To: MikeinIraq

I'll be happy to donate 20 pounds - all in the interest of serving humanity, of course.


45 posted on 12/19/2004 2:11:41 PM PST by nina0113
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To: nina0113

yeah me too...

but its more like 40 for me :)


46 posted on 12/19/2004 8:09:27 PM PST by MikefromOhio (21 days until I can leave Iraq and stop selling hotdogs in Baghdad....and boycotting boycotts)
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To: Coleus

Thanks for the links and the ping


47 posted on 12/20/2004 7:03:10 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Click on my name to see what readers have said about my Christian novels!)
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