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To: evad
"I have never heard a reasoned argument against marijuana use for medical purposes."

The arguments are mainly against "smoked" marijuana for medical purposes.

To reduce the intraocular pressure caused by glaucoma, it would require smoking 10 joints/day, every day. But any form of marijuana for glaucoma, however, is contraindicated due to its negative effect on the optic nerve.

No major medical association supports smoked marijuana for medical reasons. None.

One other little ditty for you. 99% of medical marijuana patients (in a California survey) were already smoking marijuana for their "condition" prior to seeing a doctor. Their doctors were not recommending marijuana -- they were simply authorizing it.

The "condition" in 2 out of 3 cases? Pain.

17 posted on 12/17/2004 10:33:30 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
The arguments are mainly against "smoked" marijuana for medical purposes.

If it works, is controlled and prescribed by a doctor, it wouldn't matter to me if they smoke it, inject it or by what means it eventually reaches the blood stream.

I find it an illogical premise that this whole desire for medical use of marijuana is just a way to open the gates for a bunch of dope smokers.

21 posted on 12/17/2004 10:46:20 AM PST by evad (DUmmie FUnnies and Pookie Toons-the start of a nice day)
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To: robertpaulsen
To reduce the intraocular pressure caused by glaucoma, it would require smoking 10 joints/day, every day

OK Ok RP - please produce your reference to this interesting little pharmacology factoid.

Or did you just invent this to support your totalitarian bent?

22 posted on 12/17/2004 10:47:08 AM PST by corkoman (Logged in - have you?)
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To: robertpaulsen
No major medical association supports smoked marijuana for medical reasons. None.

Heh. Follow the money.

24 posted on 12/17/2004 10:53:58 AM PST by gdani
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To: robertpaulsen
The "condition" in 2 out of 3 cases? Pain.

In case you weren't aware of the situation, "pain" can be a serious medical condition that adversely affects the lives of the sufferers.

I have to live with chronic pain from arthritis, luckily I can get by with ibuprofin, although I've got Rxs for more powerful, narcotic drugs, which I very rarely use (I can't work if I take them). I do NOT use MJ at all. I just wanted to make that point here. But I've also known very severe, long term pain. I had "shingles" and it took more then 6 months for the pain to completely subside. The first 2 months were the worst. There were nights where I really wanted to die, and even with a Rx for oxycontin, the pain was serious. And I like to think that I have a very high pain threshhold.

This is completely anecdotal, but it's a real situation. I've got a friend who was in a severe auto accident a number of years ago. Many broken bones, including a smashed pelvis. To this day, she suffers severs pain due to the accident. She has Rxs for narcotic pain meds, including oxycontin. However, all of those leave her in a state where she really can't do anything. They also seem to supress her appitite, and she's already a size 0, being about 5' tall, and 95#. She lives in Oakland, CA, and she's been using the "medical MJ" for some time. Actually, she was buying it illegally even before, because she liked the relief it gave her better than the "legal" narcotic drugs that she could be taking. It doesn't leave her in a "comatose" state, where all she wants to do is sleep. It's also increased her appetite, and the last time I spoke to her, she said that she's gained 5 pounds over the last 6 months, which for her, is really something.

The thing is, that chronic pain will ruin your life. I'm all for giving people who live in chronic pain whatever relief they need. Even if that relief is not scientifically proven.

Mark

194 posted on 12/18/2004 1:02:33 PM PST by MarkL (Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. But it rocks absolutely, too!)
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To: robertpaulsen
So, if the complex cannibinoids in cannabis do the job, why not smoke it, if you like?

230 posted on 12/18/2004 4:52:14 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: robertpaulsen
The "condition" in 2 out of 3 cases? Pain.

Ok I'll make a deal with you.I will come over to your house every day at 1 pm and kick you really hard in the gonads with steel toed boots and on days when my foot is to tired I will bring over an nfl field goal kicker to do it for me and when you expierience a great deal of "pain" the only thing i will allow you to take for it is 100 mg of asprin.To make sure your not cheating and taking something stronger I will force you to drop trough and pee in a cup to prove that you arent taking anything stronger. (If you have nothing to hide you wont mind peeing in a cup right? oh yeah I might have to bring someone over to watch you do that to make sure its your own urine)If I find that you did take something stronger then the asprin that I so generously and compasionatly "allowed" you as an amaerican citizen to take I will have armed goverment agents break down your door at 3 am and point full auto machine guns at your familys head and take every bit of property from you under the asset forfiture laws justto teach you a lesson to never ever under any circumstances disagree with the fed gov on anything.After you go through all of this for a few months you can get on your high horse and tell everyone how to best deal with thier pain and how to live thier lives in a "free" society.So do we have a deal or not ?

325 posted on 12/20/2004 9:08:16 AM PST by freepatriot32 (http://chonlalonde.blogspot.com)
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