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Firefox is hot; Thunderbird's not — for good reason
St. Louis Post Dispatch ^ | Dec. 17 2004 | David Sheets

Posted on 12/17/2004 5:51:49 PM PST by Graybeard58

Among the online world’s hottest commodities, nothing sizzles quite like Firefox, the new Web browser by the California-based Mozilla Foundation that’s causing sleeplessness in and around Seattle, Microsoft Corp’s home turf.

Since Version 1.0 of Firefox went public about a month ago, about 10 million Internet Explorer users have seen the white-hot light and switched, gnawing off a huge chunk of IE's dominant market share (about 4 percent of it) while easing their security concerns. (This week, Microsoft announced five new security flaws in IE, bringing the total this year to 45 — or about 43 more than many people consider tolerable. And last week, Penn State University implored its 80,000-plus students and faculty to stop using IE purely for security's sake.)

So, it's logical to think the Foundation's flagship e-mail program, Thunderbird, developed almost in lock step with Firefox and now enjoying its own Version 1.0 release, has superstar numbers in its future as well. After all, Thunderbird's believed to be less vulnerable to online threats than Microsoft's popular Outlook and Outlook Express e-mail products — the same reason behind Firefox's star turn over IE.

But that kind of thinking may only give you headaches.

The Thunderbird-Firefox open-source tandem replaces

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To: mhx

Second that. T-Bird Rocks. It's not been a problem. And if you need a wizard to move an address book, Nuf said.


21 posted on 12/17/2004 6:14:33 PM PST by Pit1
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To: Graybeard58

Yeah I know... me and my Beavis and Butthead moment :O)


22 posted on 12/17/2004 6:15:54 PM PST by cyborg (http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/flamelily.html)
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To: Graybeard58

I've used T-bird for several months and have installed it for friends. It easily imports e-mail addresses etc. from Outlook or even lesser known mail progrms like Poco-mail. The spam filter is very effective and it works simply and effectively. Go for it.


23 posted on 12/17/2004 6:16:34 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: sinanju

Clearly you are much deeper thinking than I am! LOL


24 posted on 12/17/2004 6:16:50 PM PST by cyborg (http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/flamelily.html)
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To: martin_fierro
Anyone use T-bird?

I'm using firefox and thunderbird. firefox is great, thunderbird is really, really slow. But I'm on an old laptop with nt. But they both work. I'm willing to give them time.

25 posted on 12/17/2004 6:17:36 PM PST by searchandrecovery (This space intentionally left blank.)
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To: Betis70
I use KMail mainly because I use aggressive spam filtering using mailfilter as a primary and spamassassin as a secondary for spam filtering and clamav foe virus filtering.

KMail lets me pipe incoming mail through spamassassin and clamav. Thunderbird does not.

My son uses Thunderbird in linux on the same machine in his own user account as he is less concerned about spam and gets less of it so the standard Bayesian filter used by thunderbird is sufficient for his purposes.

My isp uses a Bayesian filter at the server but teaching it requires that I access the server using webmail to reset false "Junk" or "not Junk" allocations. So both my son and I have disabled it for out accounts.

We never use Windows to receive mail, most especially we never use Outlook or Outlook Express. Security wise they are swiss cheese.

We also have "public" email addresses and a "private" ones, respectively equivalent to listed and unlisted phone numbers. Most spam comes in on the "public" ones as the spam trollers find it in too many insecure address books. My main problem with the private one is persuading my friends to abstain from putting it into their Outlook or Outlook Express addressbooks.

26 posted on 12/17/2004 6:20:35 PM PST by Clive
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To: I got the rope
OK...I'm using firefox now....why does everything look like its italicized

I don't know - I don't have it.

27 posted on 12/17/2004 6:23:37 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: searchandrecovery
When using firefox, do the links change color for you after you visit them?

I have my preferences set to have unvisited links blue, while the visited links change to red.

Despite those settings, the links I visit never change to red.

Could it be a cookie issue?

28 posted on 12/17/2004 6:24:11 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: sarah_f

Sorry, I don't use Windows :-)


29 posted on 12/17/2004 6:24:13 PM PST by mhx
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To: sinanju
Just go here. And thanks for the refresher in anthropology.
30 posted on 12/17/2004 6:27:16 PM PST by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

Eudora has been giving me fits ever since the SR2 UPGRADE.

I can't send attachments or it crashes--totally crashes. Eudora tech help has eventually ended up saying it's probably because of Norton--and that Norton refuses to work with them etc. That I should get some other firewall/antivirus software that the stafff of which work with Eudora's staff.

Very disappointing.

I hate Outlook. Thunderbird was the pits but I don't recall why.

Anyway--if anyone has any suggestions for Eudora--would love any help possible.

have been using OFFBYONE browser the last many hours. Seems OK. But in these FR windows--ENTER gets you umpteen lines down the page every time one hits it. One ends up having to use the down arrow to go to the next paragraph after first hitting enter once.

And, I can't figure out even with the instructions, how to change the font to arial.







































































31 posted on 12/17/2004 6:28:09 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Graybeard58

Thunder Bird is great, as good a email client as Firefox is browser. I don't think it gets the same amout of promotion by word of mouth.


32 posted on 12/17/2004 6:30:13 PM PST by KoRn
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To: I got the rope

Have you tried re-setting your preferences to use a different typeface?


33 posted on 12/17/2004 6:30:20 PM PST by Clive
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To: martin_fierro

I use it simply because it was free it came with Firefox. It's okay, nothing bad, in my experience. The junk mail filter is a plus.


34 posted on 12/17/2004 6:30:38 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Political correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism.)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy
Eudora rocks

Lately I purchased a new laptop, and thought I would take the opportunity to upgrade to the "best" email client (I had been using Eudora).

I tried all the main email programs mentioned above (and some others), but only came to appreciate Eudora that much more. In my mind Eudora was hands down the best for the following reasons:

You just can't go wrong with Eudora, even with the little ad that you quickly learn to ignore.

35 posted on 12/17/2004 6:30:45 PM PST by The Duke
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To: Graybeard58
Firefox is the best thing in browsing to come along in a long time. I love it. Download the extensions to tweak it and your are set.

Thunder bird looks nice, but Outlook still is a better program.

36 posted on 12/17/2004 6:31:51 PM PST by Popman
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To: Graybeard58

Geez, I wish I understood any of this, IE is where I click to get to FRee Republic, beyond that ????????


37 posted on 12/17/2004 6:32:01 PM PST by Mister Baredog (PLEASE be sure you have a flag up on your FReeper homepage.!!!)
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To: Graybeard58
I have been using Firefox for about three weeks. Not one pop-up during that time. As for Thunderbird, i don't have the patience to move everything from Outlook. If I keep getting junk mail, I may find the time to try it out.
38 posted on 12/17/2004 6:32:09 PM PST by jdinsight
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To: Betis70

Switch to astronomy and you could have Homo Erectus on Uranus.


39 posted on 12/17/2004 6:34:35 PM PST by decimon
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To: cyborg
hehe--hehe-- you said Homo Erectus.


40 posted on 12/17/2004 6:36:20 PM PST by ovrtaxt (Political correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism.)
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