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Republicans Squander “Political Capital”
Conservative Truth.Org ^ | December 13, 2004 | Christopher G. Adamo

Posted on 12/18/2004 8:52:57 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie

Following the Republican landslide victories of the 1994 midterm elections, conservatives watched in amazement as Republican “moderates” proceeded to completely squander the ground they had gained, culminating in the defeat of Bob Dole in ‘96. In the aftermath of this year’s elections, ominous signs point towards a repeat performance.

Apparently, Republican Party operatives didn’t really comprehend why, in the middle of Bill Clinton’s first term, they won big. And to this day, political analysts still don’t seem to grasp the situation. Among conservatives, the conventional wisdom is that the newly realigned GOP Congressional majority had wrongly presumed too much of a mandate, subsequently shocking the American people with an excessively bold agenda.

In truth however, the exact opposite took place. And if the Republican Party doesn’t quickly come to grips with this fact, it may find itself facing larger defeats in ‘06 and ‘08 than the Democrats just received.

By formulating the “Contract with America,” Newt Gingrich brilliantly highlighted the contrasts between the two parties. In presenting America with such a clear choice, he ensured that the liberalism of the Democrats would be on parade. The rest is history.

Yet in the aftermath of the elections, intense media pressure caused Gingrich and the Republicans to backtrack. Bob Dole’s “enough is enough” surrender to Clinton’s bloated 1995 budget sealed Dole’s fate in the following year’s presidential election. Despite Republican wins, the left still dominated.

In reality, the much-heralded “Republican Revolution” simply never happened. Where, for example, was a single bloated bureaucracy eliminated, or required to face even modest budget cuts at the hands of the Republicans?

Far from committing any conservative “excesses,” it was the abandonment of such things which disillusioned the “grassroots” and convinced them that “business as usual” still reigned supreme in Washington. Hence, they stayed home on Election Day in ‘96.

So, how have Republicans fared during the brief “lame duck” Congressional session following this year’s election? Initial signs are not encouraging. Rather than confronting the Democrats’ obstructionism, and their continued pandering to the counterculture, Republicans are once again waffling, conceding, and capitulating.

The recently passed “National Security Reform Act” is a prime example. Key to American security is regaining control of its borders. Amazingly, Congress decided to remove a provision from the security reform measure that would have clamped down on the ability of illegal aliens (such as the nineteen hijackers of 9-11) to obtain drivers’ licenses.

According to opponents of the provision, such discussion belongs in other legislation. Yet if the mass influx of undocumented foreigners isn’t relevant to the security of the nation, little else is.

Beyond all of the excuses, the reality of the situation is that the Republicans in the House and Senate have no stomach to confront the illegal alien issue, for fear of media backlash. They apparently remain clueless as to the receding relevance of the “mainstream” media, or the fact that their acquiescence to it will cause an enormous rift with the “base” from whom they so recently garnered electoral victories.

On another front, Senate Minority leader Harry Reid of Nevada highlighted the tight spot in which Senate Democrats presently find themselves. Completely abandoning any pretence of bipartisan cooperation, Reid pressed forward in the footsteps of his predecessor, the recently deposed Tom Daschle of South Dakota.

On a weekend talk show, Reid sounded like the standard, cliched, liberal Democrat of the Washington “insider” crowd, promising obstruction and rancor, but not surprisingly accompanied by the standard liberal demands that Republicans “reach across the aisle.”

If a groundswell of disapproval occurs in response to his caustic diatribe, Reid, being another partisan Democrat Senator from a “red state,” could eventually face a fate similar to that suffered by Daschle. Fortunately for Reid, Senate Republicans may well ride in to his rescue. Fearing possible negative ramifications from altering the present senate rules that allow legislation to be stalled by a forty vote filibuster, Republicans are again showing their reluctance to play “hard ball” when confronted with such obstructionism.

Presently, Democrats have been using this technique to thwart the appointment of judges who would uphold the Constitution. So, conservatives are left wondering what possible ramifications could be worse than a continued decimation of the Constitution.

John Kerry’s liberalism, when viewed against the backdrop of the War on Terror, provided the contrast that yielded significant Republican Congressional gains, and a victory for President Bush. If Republicans continue to erase that contrast, they will eventually erase the victory.

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1 posted on 12/18/2004 8:52:57 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie
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To: 26lemoncharlie

This article is about as true as any I have ever read about GOP timidity, even cowardice, in the face of battle.


2 posted on 12/18/2004 8:58:02 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: 26lemoncharlie

Well, in 95/96 the Left controlled the Presidency, the courts, and the MSM.

The MSM is greatly weakened. And the Republicans had better began truly resolving the problem with the courts.

I don't see the Reps making the same mistakes.

The true lesson of 95/96, IMO, is that there is not much of a constituency for real spending cuts. But there is one for conservative social policy.

I fully expect the latter to be enacted by the Reps. As for the former, I sadly do not expect, but understand, there will be little, if any, cuts in spending.

This is, BTW, where the Libertarian party could have a real effect, trying to educate the public on the benefits and need for real spending cuts - but the LP is apparently to busy trying to help the Democrats reachieve political power apparently.


3 posted on 12/18/2004 9:01:53 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Dowd wrote that Kerry was defeated by a "jihad" of Christians...Finally – a jihad liberals oppose!)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

An awful lot of the people who voted for Ross Perot did so because they were disappointed with the Republicans' failure to do anything about the budget.

As it turned out, voting for Perot was a gigantic mistake. But Perot saw the opening, and he sure took it.

On the other hand, Newt Gingrich was too loud and too abrasive. That was OK when he was in the opposition, but it didn't play well after he got his majority. In the end, Newt let his supporters down as much as anyone else did.


4 posted on 12/18/2004 9:02:59 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

Columnist Tony Blankley (former aide to N. Gingrich) and others have said that if the GOP dodges immigration, defeat will loom in 2008. Why? because Mrs. H. Clinton, a born-again immigration reformer, will seize the mantle needed to win the election. If not on immigration, she will seize any issue where she can mine votes from the Republican base. The GOP may not figure out what happened until Nov. 5, 2008.


5 posted on 12/18/2004 9:09:20 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Cicero

Gingrich also seemed to lack the courage of his proclaimed convictions just as his own personal life was also falling apart. What a disappointment! He is a good commentator with some original ideas, but he is no leader.
When Gingrich said that he often "melted" in the presence of Bill Clinton, Republicans should have immediately removed him as Speaker! Failure to do so: four more years of Clinton, and four more such years could well begin on Jan. 20, 2009.


6 posted on 12/18/2004 9:11:58 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Cicero

Newt didn't let his supporters down the fanatics in the GOP chased him out.


7 posted on 12/18/2004 9:13:15 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: swilhelm73

But there is one for conservative social policy.

So who are the Republican "leaders" speaking out on cultural issue? I hear the oxymoron of a "deafening silence."


8 posted on 12/18/2004 9:13:23 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: 26lemoncharlie
In reality, the much-heralded “Republican Revolution” simply never happened.Oh really? We have a Republican Senate, a Republican House and a Republican President. Revolutions aren't measured by election cycles, they are a series of steps. I am guessing the President is saving his political capital for the battles he campaigned on...things like tax reform, social security reform and judicial nominees.
9 posted on 12/18/2004 9:14:28 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: 26lemoncharlie

Though he lost the election, Daschle leaves town as a tactical winner. He stopped most of what he wanted to stop between 2001 and 2004. And Reid expects to do the same from 2005-2008, I would imagine. Why the pitiful NV GOP wouldn't even seriously contest Reid's reelection.


10 posted on 12/18/2004 9:15:12 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.

I'll tell you this right now. If Hillary Clinton will stop illegal immigration, I'LL VOTE FOR THE B***, and I despise her with every fiber of my conservative being. The destruction of my country proceeds unchecked through illegal immigration.


11 posted on 12/18/2004 9:16:53 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Theodore R.

Well, I certainly have heard them speak, starting with the President.

Of course, we do all realize the new Senate, the one where was have a real majority, has yet to be sworn in yet, right?


12 posted on 12/18/2004 9:17:39 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Dowd wrote that Kerry was defeated by a "jihad" of Christians...Finally – a jihad liberals oppose!)
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To: Cicero
I was disappointed by lots of leaders, Bush the first, Rev Falwell, Rev Pat Robertson, Newt Gingrich, but never with Ross Perot. He articulated true leadership, and was abused and ridiculed by the right and the left. He was not a politician, and did not have the temperament of one. He was too straight, too honest, too much of common sense, too much of America first, too much NOT FOR SALE AT ANY PRICE! You cannot make it in that slimy place call Washington with these aptitudes.
13 posted on 12/18/2004 9:17:50 PM PST by conservlib
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To: 26lemoncharlie
The recently passed “National Security Reform Act” is a prime example. Key to American security is regaining control of its borders. Amazingly, Congress decided to remove a provision from the security reform measure that would have clamped down on the ability of illegal aliens (such as the nineteen hijackers of 9-11) to obtain drivers’ licenses.

According to opponents of the provision, such discussion belongs in other legislation. Yet if the mass influx of undocumented foreigners isn’t relevant to the security of the nation, little else is.

Beyond all of the excuses, the reality of the situation is that the Republicans in the House and Senate have no stomach to confront the illegal alien issue, for fear of media backlash. They apparently remain clueless as to the receding relevance of the “mainstream” media, or the fact that their acquiescence to it will cause an enormous rift with the “base” from whom they so recently garnered electoral victories.

Our RINOOBLs (Republican In Name Only, Open Borders Lobbyists) are totally clueless.

McCain is completely out to lunch, and doesn't understand that "guest worker" is translated as "amnistia" in Mexico.

The almost-DHS boss Kerik had an illegal alien nanny in his house!

Schwarzenneger is just "fine-tuning" illegal alien driver's licenses for a new bill, when illegal alien driver's licenses was why we booted out Gray Davis!

The RINOOBLs are totally clueless.

14 posted on 12/18/2004 9:17:59 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Theodore R.
What's insane is that they should easily be throwing their weight around. I blame this on the Neocon ursurption of the conservative power. They care about empire, not about moral or ethical issues and they care about empire through big, bigger and biggest government.

You would be surprised how many times I have been rediculed by so called Republicans here on FR for opposing globalism.

15 posted on 12/18/2004 9:18:14 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

C-14


16 posted on 12/18/2004 9:18:36 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Theodore R.

I know how everyone feels about third parties, especially after the Perot fiasco and we wound up with CLinton. This article certainly spells out where we are at now.

The question is how do we tie a 2x4 to backs of these wimpy Senator's like Orin Hatch, Bill Friest and a few other's that act like spineless little twits that wear hats with Propellers on them!

We may have to all go to the Capitol with clubs and beat them into standing up and being in charge and being a MAJORITY!

I have been criticized and called a Troll on FR by some of my Critiques when I suggest that a MASS transfer of Registered Republican Voters, Re-register into say the Constitutional Party to show our disaproval. I know they will see this because both parties are Keenly aware of their registered base. We can always move back to the R party at any time, even in the following weeks, to the best of my knowledge. I guess a check on registering would be a good idea before you transfer.

I am frustrated, especially after the National Security Act and the deletion of the Drivers License clause that prevented Illegal ALieans from getting driver's Licenses!

Personnaly, I'm an American first, and a Couple of lost seats especially Dimmocrat Seats to a third party candidate would be great!


17 posted on 12/18/2004 9:18:38 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: Theodore R.

Gingrich was the best leader the GOP has had in my lifetime. If not for the Contract with America the GOP might still be in the minority, the current crop of republicans will blow it by spending like Democrats.


18 posted on 12/18/2004 9:18:59 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Dolphy

The single most important domestic issue, *judicial nominees*.


19 posted on 12/18/2004 9:19:08 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Dowd wrote that Kerry was defeated by a "jihad" of Christians...Finally – a jihad liberals oppose!)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

But don't they have a right to a good job and free welfare here in America? How elitist of you to demand they do it legally. Why in this age of anything goes and to hell with rules, you are an antiquated dinasaur. Instead of closing the border, we should listen to the UN and set up water and aid stations along the route. /sarcasm


20 posted on 12/18/2004 9:24:10 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: Cicero
Ross really F'd this country. Newt was not too abrasive. He's an economist. A practical business man. He understands balancing a checkbook and simple arithmetic. If the average American can't see this, this country is doomed to utter ignorance of reality and common sense.

Personally, I'm fed up with people with hyphenated names, PC bullsh!t, and other excuses for irresponsibility and excuses not to show up for work or demonstrate accountability. The bozos who were their dopey caps on backwards, prove that they have no direction, other than stupidity and continued ignorance and no course of direction in life.

21 posted on 12/18/2004 9:24:11 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Theodore R.

I've been saying that for months, Hildahbeast will do ANYTHING, Hell she even got religion now!! She claimed she was EVANGELICAL!!! Can you believe that?? Saint Michael is sharpening his sword for sure!! Pennance!!


22 posted on 12/18/2004 9:24:35 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: Travis McGee

With anchor babies, it's amnesty in every way. We are inviting breeding age people into our country on amnesty and trusting them not to make anchor babies. Yeah, right.


23 posted on 12/18/2004 9:25:42 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority; jveritas
I'll tell you this right now. If Hillary Clinton will stop illegal immigration, I'LL VOTE FOR THE B***...

Then you are probably the second biggest dupe on FR with only "Lets nuke the world" Nanak higher on the list. Heck, all of you obsessed with immigration would probably vote for Stalin if he promised to control the borders even if it meant surrendering your freedom and a genocide of over 100 million people. I guess as long as those 100 million had dark skin and spoke Spanish, it would be acceptable.

24 posted on 12/18/2004 9:25:55 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: 26lemoncharlie

bump


25 posted on 12/18/2004 11:16:23 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
I'll tell you this right now. If Hillary Clinton will stop illegal immigration, I'LL VOTE FOR THE B***, and I despise her with every fiber of my conservative being. The destruction of my country proceeds unchecked through illegal immigration.

I agree. There is nothing more sacred to me than my great country, The United States of America.

Tom Tancredo for President 2008:Our Last and Only hope to save AMERICA

26 posted on 12/18/2004 11:16:52 PM PST by nanak (Tom Tancredo 2008:Last Hope to Save America)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

The moderate Republicans have the mind set of throwing the bath water out with the baby.


27 posted on 12/18/2004 11:42:13 PM PST by voltaire
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To: 26lemoncharlie

The recent comments, regarding Rumsfeld, by Lott and McCain, speak volumes about their loyalties. The possible justification for their past "moderate" stances could have been written off as mere cowardice. Now, however, they are truly unmasked for the party traitors and disloyalists they and many others (Specter, etc.) in the party truly are. They should be emboldened and strengthened by the overt mandate Conservativism has gained, alas.


28 posted on 12/18/2004 11:43:41 PM PST by Outraged (Time to put pressure on the party)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

Ahhhhhhhh but the rub is...She may proclaim she will stop it.....but once elected there will be no effort whatsoever to stop it....Her track record in NYS is talking the talk but not walking the walk....


29 posted on 12/18/2004 11:48:44 PM PST by L`enn
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To: swilhelm73
The MSM is greatly weakened.

I have yet to see the Dan Rather report.

I have yet to see CBS pay any price at all for fraudulently attempting to influence the election.

30 posted on 12/18/2004 11:50:21 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: 26lemoncharlie

BTTT


31 posted on 12/18/2004 11:51:33 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: swilhelm73
The single most important domestic issue, *judicial nominees*.

Well said. Beyond that if there was a conservative mandate in this election, it must have been hidden in the small print on the back pages. This election was about tax cuts, about putting in place leadership which wouldn't yield our sovereignty to the UN, and about having someone who was more interested in winning Iraq and protecting this country then in surrendering or pandering to our opposition.

Beyond that we should be very careful less we paint ourselves into a losing minority position. There is no law and no executive decision that couldn't be immediately reversed once we lose control. There is little point in throwing it all away for nothing.
32 posted on 12/19/2004 12:01:05 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: voltaire
The moderate Republicans have the mind set of throwing the bath water out with the baby.

There is little point in holding on to the bath water if the New World globalist are putting the baby up for sale to the highest bidder.
33 posted on 12/19/2004 12:06:33 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: ARCADIA

At some point you will lose. It is impossible to always win. Hence, the goal is as soon as the right is in power it should start cutting the size of the govt, so when the left gets in power it is left with a smaller govt than what it had before. If the left wants to go back to a bigger govt, then you can use it against them. But, if the right wants to mimick the left just to stay power, that is a losing proposition. People wouldn't uwant left-lite if it voted for the right. Next time, they would pick the real left.


34 posted on 12/19/2004 12:15:29 AM PST by econ_grad
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

I Think if there is just a massive registering of Republicans to a Third Party, JUST A REGISTRATION!! They will crap in there Panties, they don't believe we have anywhere else to go!! MAssive Registration, This doesn't mean you cannot vote republican, check your election board or Voter Registration Office on the rules to register and how many times you can register within a year. Just change your Registration.

The Dimms and the Republicans JUST WILL NOT HEAR the AMERICAN People, we have no place else to go for representation in Congress: Let's see, elections 2006,

Constitutional Party,
http://www.constitutionparty.com/

America First Party,
http://www.americafirstparty.org/

Independant American Party
http://www.usiap.org/

The American Party
http://www.theamericanparty.org/


35 posted on 12/19/2004 12:16:12 AM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: econ_grad
To properly administer and enforce the rules for our new "guest workers" will require 200,000 government employees. I do not call that shrinking "guberment" by any means.
36 posted on 12/19/2004 12:19:15 AM PST by investigateworld (( Only a small imagination prevents spelling words more than one way. ))
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To: Fiddlstix

Sorry I have no idea what BTTT means! I've been here about a month!


37 posted on 12/19/2004 12:23:19 AM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

"The recently passed “National Security Reform Act” is a prime example. Key to American security is regaining control of its borders. Amazingly, Congress decided to remove a provision from the security reform measure that would have clamped down on the ability of illegal aliens (such as the nineteen hijackers of 9-11) to obtain drivers’ licenses."

Something's strange about this part of the story. One of the MSM channels that I was watching this week reported that there were concerns by some opponents of the passage of the National Security Reform Act....because they thought the requirement for national uniformity of drivers licenses might lead to a requirement for a national ID card.

I think someone needs to look up the actual language included in the bill as signed, because at least one of the local southern california channels showed some whiners about the new requirement for the states to comply with the national rules for drivers licenses. They even showed a group of people protesting for drivers licenses and someone who represents the "Mexican American Political Congress" was on saying that there will be a boycott (hmm, the news story didn't say what the boycott involved...just showed some Mexicans marching in front of a gas station).


38 posted on 12/19/2004 12:26:58 AM PST by Susannah (www.AmericasSecretWar.com)
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To: CurlyDave

What price Rather pays, or what the CBS "investigation" reports will merit little.

While the public will forget the details, they will remember CBS lied.

More importantly, yes, more importantly, the public refused to buy all of the press attacks on Bush - a marked change from when the last Bush ran for re-election.

The MSM still has the power to cover things up, a la Kerry's record, but no longer has the power to destroy with false scandals...


39 posted on 12/19/2004 12:27:10 AM PST by swilhelm73 (Dowd wrote that Kerry was defeated by a "jihad" of Christians...Finally – a jihad liberals oppose!)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

BTTT= Back To The Top (pulls the thread to the top of the list)



40 posted on 12/19/2004 12:27:47 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

BTTT = bump to the top


41 posted on 12/19/2004 12:28:29 AM PST by swilhelm73 (Dowd wrote that Kerry was defeated by a "jihad" of Christians...Finally – a jihad liberals oppose!)
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To: econ_grad
The size of government will continue to grow for as long as the population and complexity continues to grow. Andy Griffen and Don Knotts might be just fine for Mayberry (c. 1950s), but once that town starts to grow they are going to need alot more help.

The key is to proportionately grow the private sector just as fast, or faster. That is where we are falling down; it is not that the public sector is growing too fast; rather the population is growing too fast (largely illegal immigration), and the domestic private sector is barely growing at all. Until we fix that the US will continue to grow ever more socialist.
42 posted on 12/19/2004 12:50:38 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

Best to check Hillary's record thus far in the Senate on her promotion of illegal immigration! (click below link)

http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgradescategory.php3?District=NY&Category=4&Status=Career&VIPID=896


43 posted on 12/19/2004 12:53:47 AM PST by Susannah (www.AmericasSecretWar.com)
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To: ARCADIA

What does growing population have to do with more govt? If that is the case, why have a Constitution in the first place. Also, the balance between private and public sector is something that escapes logic. I am not sure what you exactly mean by that, but I feel your premise is wrong.


44 posted on 12/19/2004 1:07:51 AM PST by econ_grad
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To: 26lemoncharlie

If Republicans want to look forward to being back in the minority, all they have to do is follow Arnold's advice and slide a little to the left. That's all it takes to turn off the base. Washington is full of gutless wonders who run for the tall grass when they see an issue that might offend the Democrats and the legacy media. 'Nuff said.


45 posted on 12/19/2004 1:14:27 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: swilhelm73
I don't see the Reps making the same mistakes.

Take a look around and count all the "Guiliani for Prez" and "McCain for Prez" threads. We won by going Conservative in 2004...but we're getting told that we need to go Left to win in 2008. Bah...

46 posted on 12/19/2004 1:48:49 AM PST by Prime Choice (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! ...And no, my powers can only be used for Good.)
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To: 26lemoncharlie

What a losd of crap.


47 posted on 12/19/2004 1:53:37 AM PST by exnavy
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To: Prime Choice

FReepers who don't know anything about Guiliani besides his handling of 9/11 suggesting him as a presidential candidate FOUR YEARS before the 2008 election troubles me not in the least.

There are more then enough things to worry about without fretting over those that are not worthy...


48 posted on 12/19/2004 2:28:20 AM PST by swilhelm73 (Dowd wrote that Kerry was defeated by a "jihad" of Christians...Finally – a jihad liberals oppose!)
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To: conservlib
Ross Perot was the only man to run for president who correctly and truthfully spoke about the fraud of "free trade" which is a total lie. The United States does not have free access to overseas markets and thus "the giant sucking sound" is louder than ever. Worse, we have succeeded in increasing the funding, by the billions, to the largest murdering dictatorship on earth.

Our business executives cannot jump in bed fast enough with the world's largest criminal enterprise - the world's largest slave owner, the Chinese government.

I remember the argument trade with China would ultimately free its people. I am still waiting.

Meanwhile, American software engineers are helping the Chinese government figure out new ways to control Internet access and suppress the free flow of ideas to AMERICA'S NEW SLAVES - the Chinese peasants.

In the early 1860's, Americans killed each other by the hundreds of thousands to establish that no human being belongs in bondage to another.

It is a disgrace to liberty and humanity that we blatantly fund and encourage the bondage of the Chinese people.

America should not do ANY business with a country in which hundreds of millions of enslaved people cannot control their own govenment through the right to elect their government leaders.

49 posted on 12/19/2004 3:43:19 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: jb6
What's insane is that they should easily be throwing their weight around. I blame this on the Neocon ursurption of the conservative power. They care about empire, not about moral or ethical issues and they care about empire through big, bigger and biggest government.

Here we go again with the ubiquitous "neocon." It's the buzzword to use when you don't have an argument worth spit. Even the media and the clowns over at DU use that term. Sound like them, get treated like them.

And we are not a damned empire!


50 posted on 12/19/2004 5:36:19 AM PST by rdb3 (Can I join the Pajamahadeen even if I sleep in the nude?)
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