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Podhoretz: GOP Corruption & Dem Impotence
New York Post ^ | December 17, 2004 | John Podhoretz

Posted on 12/19/2004 2:31:45 AM PST by RWR8189

THE big question for pro fessional Democrats right now is this: Can the party that invented Big Government become an effective critic of Big Government? It's the best, indeed perhaps the only, path to a Democratic renaissance. The Democratic Party finds itself in a terrible predicament. At a time when national security is paramount, the Democratic Party finds its core strength among those who don't believe in military solutions to world problems.

Peaceniks represent the Democratic Party's core strength, but they're also the party's most profound weakness — because American voters who want a strong leader won't buy a candidate acceptable to the peaceniks.

So where can Democrats turn? They can shift their attention to the fiscal corruption that has taken hold of the Republican Party in Congress.

As 2005 begins, the GOP will have controlled both Houses of Congress for a decade (excepting an 18-month blip from 2001-2002 when liberal Republican-turned-independent Jim Jeffords joined with Democrats to give them the reins of power in the Senate).

But Republicans won majorities in the House and Senate in the 1994 elections because they ran as reformers against the corruption of the entrenched Democratic majority on Capitol Hill. They were supposedly the party of less government, less regulation, less intrusion. They would be in Washington, but not of Washington

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushcountry; corruption; entrechment; gop; podhoretz

1 posted on 12/19/2004 2:31:45 AM PST by RWR8189
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To: Allan

Bump


2 posted on 12/19/2004 2:33:02 AM PST by Allan
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To: RWR8189
Interesting. It is very true that to bring about a restoration of America we need to attack corruption in all areas public and private. We must give the next generation - and the world - the clear understanding that the system works - we must free ourselves from cynicism. An America with great personal liberty, real opportunity for the common man and a clear, just and open society should be our goal. we should try to be the ultimate expression of these highest of goals. Then we would be that "shining city on a hill" that we all hope in our heart that we could be. Everything else would just take care of itself.
3 posted on 12/19/2004 2:41:34 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: RWR8189

^


4 posted on 12/19/2004 2:51:06 AM PST by rdb3 (Can I join the Pajamahadeen even if I sleep in the nude?)
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To: CasearianDaoist

we must free ourselves from cynicism




I'm 24...my entire generation is cynical.....its sad to see....


5 posted on 12/19/2004 2:52:41 AM PST by MikefromOhio (22 days until I can leave Iraq and stop selling hotdogs in Baghdad....and boycotting boycotts)
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To: MikeinIraq

Well I am a boomer and I am shocked by how cynical my generation has become. We must fight this tendency; we must not become like the Europeans. IT maybe too late. It is one of the reasons that I find Bush so refreshing. Young people need to know the systems works. It is a worthy assperation believe me. American renewal start with basic things, the sort of ideals we have alway mouthed: libery, freedom decency opportunity, justice, transparency. It is all of a piece. The future is there for the taking, we just need to take it in hand.


6 posted on 12/19/2004 2:59:15 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: B4Ranch; calcowgirl; Carry_Okie

We're not the only ones suspecting corruption...


7 posted on 12/19/2004 3:01:20 AM PST by risk
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To: risk

Conservatives Have Been Assimilated. Resistance Is Futile.


8 posted on 12/19/2004 3:08:14 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MikeinIraq

Well, Mike, don't feel alone.
I'm 52 and have been very cynical my entire life. (at least since 15)

That has never left me, unlike my youth which vashished somewhere along the way...Never quit.


9 posted on 12/19/2004 3:12:55 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: RWR8189
The last paragraph of the article:

Still, a future Democratic leader who can find a way to talk about big-government Republican corruption without promising more of the same could bring his party out of the wilderness into which it has wandered.

What do ya think, Hillary? You ain't got a hair!

10 posted on 12/19/2004 3:20:18 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

If the Democrats ever become the party of small government and low taxes, then they might end their 40 years in the desert. I wouldn't hold my breath though waiting for the makeover to happen in my lifetime.


11 posted on 12/19/2004 3:21:53 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

The problem, as I see it, is that the Republicans are giving the Democrats what they want; CRF, the Homeland Security Department, an Intelligence Czar, etc. No one is saying, "No."


12 posted on 12/19/2004 3:27:18 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: leadpenny

That was supposed to be CFR.


13 posted on 12/19/2004 3:27:54 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: MikeinIraq

Exclusive of the menand women whom you serve with what do you think is the depth of patriotism in your age group?


14 posted on 12/19/2004 3:44:41 AM PST by B4Ranch (((The lack of alcohol in my coffee forces me to see reality!)))
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To: B4Ranch

They are certainly more laid back about patriotism. However, I think that with age and maturity, most are coming around.

Certainly my wife (who is also 24) and I are very patroitic as are my brother (21) and his wife who is 22. It really is hit and miss right now, but that is an improvement from when I graduated with them as well.

It is not a good trend that at their earliest ages they are given whatever the teacher's vision of America is. It is up to the parents (I had great Parents by the way) to make sure the kid sees if the teacher is full of it or not....


15 posted on 12/19/2004 3:48:49 AM PST by MikefromOhio (22 days until I can leave Iraq and stop selling hotdogs in Baghdad....and boycotting boycotts)
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To: CasearianDaoist
I am also extremely cynical.

The only thing that would have cured me would have been if the Clintons were currently sitting in a federal penitentiary wearing orange.
16 posted on 12/19/2004 3:49:22 AM PST by cgbg (A new song for the Dummies--Brain Dead in O-hi-o.)
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To: RWR8189

Podhoretz is a putz grasping at strawmen. The title should read Democratic corruption & GOP impotence. From Social Security to Sandy Berger. Where'e the barf alert?


17 posted on 12/19/2004 4:24:52 AM PST by PGalt
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To: RWR8189
Had the Dems not murdered 1 of every 2 babies for the past decade or so, then the Dems would largely outnumber any other political force.

As it is, abortion has had terrible political consequences for the Dems.

Undoubedly, most of the aborted babies would have grown up to be voting democrats.

18 posted on 12/19/2004 4:33:14 AM PST by joyful1
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To: RWR8189

The Democrats are the party of Socialism at full-speed whatever the cost (with lots of perks for special interests). There is a danger that the Republicans will become the party of Socialism at half-speed -- giving voters most of what the Democrats promise only more efficiently with better bookkeeping. I get mixed signals, some incouraging and some discouraging. That there is talk about privitizing part of Social Security and the Assault Weapons Ban was allowed to expire -- that was encouraging. I found the Campaign Finance Reform and the education bill the President supported with Ted Kennedy to be a dissapointment. I know there has to be some give and take, but the Republicans will have to fight the temptation of some to become the Democrats Lite.


19 posted on 12/19/2004 4:40:33 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: Wilhelm Tell

My cold is making my brain foggier than usual and I am forgetting how to spell. Oh well.


20 posted on 12/19/2004 4:44:13 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: RWR8189

The GOP is corrupted, but it's by infiltrating RINOs and others from the Rat party who can no longer accept the Rat platform. Zell Millers are fabulous when needed, but when they come into the party, they also bring their social or financial agendas, and the GOP, to make new members (or non-member helpers) happy, give til it hurts the rest of us.


21 posted on 12/19/2004 6:06:16 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: AmericanChef
I am afraid you are correct. Newt Gingrich was a strong, conservative leader and the dems (with the willing help of RINOs) ran him completely out of town. This left a big power vacuum in DC which, I am afraid, the dems stepped up and filled. In the house we blew through a few leaders until we settled on (the relative unknown) Hastert. DH, as far as I can tell, is an appeaser. That is why the dems did not try to run him out. Over in the senate, as far as I am concerned, there was never a strong republican. There was Lott, but he was an appeaser. Now there is Frist, who also appeases. We need a strong republican leader. One who is not afraid to stand up to the dems. One with a backbone who is not afraid to let the dems do themselves in by allowing all senate business to grind to a halt by entertaining one full filibuster after another. That is how the American people will wake up to the shenanigans that the dems are constantly trying to pull over on "their people."
22 posted on 12/19/2004 6:47:58 AM PST by Conservative Infidel
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To: RWR8189

Interesting article. Maybe President Bush isn't interfering with the pork because he needs the votes for bills that he considers important, and he wants the Republicans in congress to exercise a little leadership and take care of the problem before a bill arrives on his desk.

Unfortunately, if that is what he is doing, it isn't working yet. Perhaps in this next congress he will have a better result.


23 posted on 12/19/2004 12:34:31 PM PST by Piranha
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