Skip to comments.Muslims face rising suspicion in Europe(high disapproval poll numbers)
Posted on 12/19/2004 8:55:22 AM PST by Pikamax
Muslims face rising suspicion in Europe John Elliott
EUROPES reputation as a tolerant haven for people of all religions may be under threat. Muslims are apparently being viewed with high levels of disapproval, a survey has revealed.
Sweden emerges as the most pessimistic west European nation; 75% of Swedes questioned said there is definitely a lot or rather a lot of disapproval of Muslims.
Britain is relatively tolerant. Just 39% of respondents said they believed that a significant number of people were opposed to Muslims.
The survey was conducted in the wake of the September 11 attacks and the Madrid train bombings to examine religious attitudes. Researchers asked 1,000 people in 19 European countries: Do you think nowadays there is a lot of, a little of, or no disapproval of Muslims living in European society.
In Holland, 72% said there was a lot of disapproval of Muslims and in Denmark the figure was 67%. On average, 52% of people interviewed across western Europe believed that there was large-scale unhappiness about Muslims.
An estimated 13m Muslims live in the 25 countries of the European Union. On top of fears over Al-Quaeda attacks, tensions have risen in countries such as Holland where Theo van Gogh, the radical film-maker, was stabbed to death by an Islamic extremist. This was followed by at least 13 arson attacks on mosques, churches and Islamic schools across the country.
The study also suggests that anti-semitism has increased; 30% of those questioned believed that it had risen in their country over the past five years, 35% thought there had been no change and 14% believed it had fallen. In Britain 34% of those asked believed there was more anti-semitism while 49% felt there had been no change and 17% thought it had declined.
Mark Hofmans of GfK Worldwide, the German market research company that prepared the report with The Wall Street Journal, said he had been surprised by the results.
Most shocking were the results about anti-semitism and attitudes towards Muslims, which were much more negative than we expected and widespread, too, he said.
Chowdhury Mueen-Uddin, deputy director of the Islamic Foundation, a Leicester-based centre that promotes understanding between Muslims and non-Muslims, said the study reflects the general perception now prevalent in our society.
He added: Anyone who has the wellbeing of society uppermost in his mind cannot but feel deeply concerned at these findings. Being a Muslim I am worried that Europe is replacing its anti-semitism with yet another cancer Islamophobia. There is nothing worse than the feeling that you are not trusted or are viewed with suspicion by your neighbours and fellow citizens.
He added that Muslims viewed Britain more positively than other countries in Europe: We feel we are much better treated here than anywhere else the society as a whole is much fairer than the other European countries.
In France for example (Muslim girls) are denied wearing the hijab in schools and in Germany, while the Turkish population have been living there for more than 30 years, they are still treated as guest workers and not allowed to be part of mainstream society.
Azher Basharat, 35, a shop worker and devout Muslim from Forest Gate, east London, said: Things have got a little worse since September 11, but in the main things are fine. People in Britain are very tolerant.
What has changed, though, is that some people look at us with greater suspicion. You can see it in their faces they look a little uneasy. Ive not been attacked or anything, though and I cant remember anyone saying anything racist or Islamophobic to me.
Mohammedanism is a curse for the Western world. After 9/11, 3/11 and the brutal attack on Van Gogh it should be clear that this demonic cult has to erradicated.
Well, from there it's only 10 years or so before they begin doing something about it.
If they have 10 years...
It's gonna be tough to blame America for this one.
I find it funny how you people view islam the same way the Nazis viewed judaism. Last time I checked, god was against evil men, not the religions they followed.
"Being a Muslim I am worried that Europe is replacing its anti-semitism with yet another cancer Islamophobia."
A word of advice to you, my fine young follower of Mohammed *(PIHF), when you see your European hosts begin to build gas chambers and ovens, run, dont walk, to the nearest mode of rapid transportation and leave town, never to return.
*Pi$$ In His Face
Last time I checked, Jews in Europe in the 1930's were not running around beheading infidels, blowing up train stations and beer halls, cutting their own daughters' throats, assassinating people who wrote books or made movies they didn't like, and claiming that they were doing it all in the name of their religion.
In other words, Nazis viewed Judaism the same way that Muslims view Europeans and Americans.
BTW, the mohammedans view 'judaism' the exact same way as hitler did. I find it amusing how you people seem to foget that little factoid.
~ and ~
"Not to mention that Islam came to save humanity from ignorance and oppression. Islam is not a threat to any society. Islam calls for harmony and peaceful co-existence with other religions. It does not permit aggression, violence, injustice, or oppression. At the same time, it calls to morality, justice, tolerance, and peace."
Ummmm, no; no it's not. I won't go into *what it is*, as I'd probably get in trouble... aw, what the heck:
Islam, The Cult of Murder.
Islam, The Cult of Terror.
Islam, The Cult of Boy-Buggering.
Islam, The Cult of Women-Chattelling.
Islam, The Cult of Horror.
Islam, The Cult of Rape.
Islam, The Cult of Ritual Killing.
Islam, The Cult of Beheading.
Islam, The Cult of Deviants.
Islam, The Cult of Hate.
Islam, The Cult of Lies.
Islam, The Cult of Female Mutilation.
Islam, The Cult of Death.
Islam, The Cult of Christian & Jew Killing.
Islam, The Cult of Infidel Murder.
Islam, The Cult of The Mentally-Ill.
Islam, the Cult of Evil.
Islam, the Cult of Poverty.
Islam, the Cult of Illiteracy.
Islam, the Religion of Peace, and THEY'LL KILL YOU TO PROVE IT!
I think Britains are concerned with getting charged with a crime if they tell a pollster how they really feel about muslims.
It is a little scary to read some of the stuff we write about islam. Nonetheless something will have to be done. No muslims in America (or anywhere else) are rising up and denouncing the fellow members of their religion who have commited over 80% of the terror attacks in the world in the past thirty years.
Since its conception they have been at war with everyone including themselves. They cannot live in peace for long. Some changes will have to be made in the world to stop islam from killing everyone who does not bow down to allah. If it means freedom of religion in America has to take on a new meaning so be it.
Hey, at least they're not Yanks.
"I find it funny how you people view islam the same way the "Nazis viewed judaism. Last time I checked, god was against evil men, not the religions they followed."
Last time I checked, judaism never called for murdering non-jews through beheadings before the war. Last time I checked Jews weren't mass murdering and committing suicide bombings and slaughtering school children while crying Yaweh is Great before WWII. God is against evil men who have an evil religion.
I can think of worse things.
How about his neighbors worrying about their child's bus blowing up, or their wife or daughter receiving the gang-rape they deserve for going out without a male escort?
Well golly gee, I wonder why people view Muslems negatively? Maybe because they kill thousands of innocent people every year in the name of their god? Ya think? Nah, it couldn't be because they are murdering in the name of spreading their beliefs? 'Follow our will and decisions or we will torture and kill you' might be an attitude they want to change if they want their poll numbers to go up.
Bloody pig eaters.
"Camp Of The Saints"
Do you think there is the smallest, slightest and the most remote possiblity the Muslims might have brought this upon themselves, by their own actions? I surely do.
Stop telling us how good you are.
My tolerance level for islam is no secret: 0.0%.
Same as for killers, rapists, Creators of spam.
Having said that, I condemn the connection that is never made regarding anti-semitism:
The muslims are hated for being murdering animals on two legs.
The Jews are hated and condemned for attracting the murdering hatred of the muslims! Don't expect to see that reality expressed in writing or in polls any time soon.
I find it funny that people with no brains can't distinguish an opinion, and an ignorant one at that, from moral grandstanding with an asinine comparison.
Thanks for the reminder.
It just joined my "Morons to ignore list".
. . .it would help a great deal; if the 'good Muslims of the world - wherever they live - would speak out. . .condemn those who terrorize, brutalize and kill, in the name of Allah.
Their silence - if even from fear - communcates, rightly or wrongly at first assumption; a tacit approval.
This does not help in any way build trust, understanding or friendship.
I find it funny how you people view islam the same way the Nazis viewed judaism.
Actually I view Islam the same way jews view Nazis.
I think it's more like "Godwin's opinion"..
I don't recall anyone enacting it as law... (/smartass remark )
. . .Islam offers a circular argument however. . .the religion of peace does have a 'peaceful message' to believers - to believers/followers of Allah.
OTOH. . .the rest of the world's 'non-Allah, spiritual community'are viewed as 'infidels' - a fact that no matter how you try and slice it; leaves the Muslim and his religion- as one and inseparable (including as well, the crimes thus committed against 'infidels')
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism."
PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein, March 31, 1977
Time for the Muslim Waffen SS pictures (worth 1000 words, at least!):
A picture taken in 1943 of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin el-Husseini reviewing Bosnian-Muslim troops - a unit of the "Hanjar (Saber) Division" of the Waffen SS which he personally recruited for Hitler.
What is NOT taught in history class in US schools today is nothing short of amazing!
TravisK is just here to shake us all up.
I have no "toleration" for those who plan to take over my country and turn it into a replica of the dungheap they left and plan to offer me the "choice" of conversion or death. Toleration for those who, if and when they take over, will enslave or kill me is not a strength but a weakness.
Muslims aren't detested and feared around the world for "no" reasons.
*Pi$$ In His Face
A true Patriot! Thanks for speaking out on the evils of moose limbism.
Can you define "you people"?
Bloody pig eaters.
Ummmm.... I kinda, sorta, hafta, shooda, wooda, cooda, boota,
rooda, fooda, pooda, mooda, zooda ... dammit, eye fur got wut
eye wuz gunna say!!!
Oh yeah... the Muzzle-em BuyBull (Koran) teaches 'em that us
Infidels iz justa buncha sub-human monkeys and pigs!!!
Sooooo... ifn dey iz "Bloody pig eaters" lyke ewe sez, den duz
dat meen dat after dey chops off are heds dey den eet zus fur
Note: If you are experiencing some degree of difficulty reading
the above text... ewe needzta studeee air-a-bick more better !!! ;-))
How do you view islam?
Perhaps to can bring a new perspective to the discussion. Please educate us, (formally known as you people), on your view of islam. I see that you did not capitalize islam so perhaps you might not respect the cult. Let us hear of your tolerance.
Wow..that was perfect!
Geez... nunna use gize noze howta spel... itz "Ewe Pee Pull" !!! ;-))
Ping to buy this book -- history no one ever taught me.
Except for Jews, of course.
Read your Old Testament ... Read your New Testament
I kinda figure that TravisK does NOT read the Christian Bible.
That is to say, he reads the Koran... the Muzzle-em BuyBull !!! ;-))
I caught that too. He belongs over at DU. No. Check that. Correction. Get him a camel flight to Mecca on the Camels R Us airline where the pilots have no training in landing a 737 jet aircraft; other than stopping in the side of a building.
"Don't call me Shirley!" /laughter
Europe doesn't have such a hot track-record when it comes to dealing with religions they don't like.
Seems the western world is on a slippery slope here; thanks to much of it embracing the 'socialist world view[ - their political MO; including PC as well.
The Muslim imigrants in Holland and elsewhere in socialist Europe are not allowed to work; in many cases, for two years after entering country (assume the argument is that it would displace the citizen worker); the reason offered by this analyst is that it insures that when immigrants are ready to vote. . .they will vote for the Socialist Party they have come to depend on; for their 'caring/compassionate'. . .lenient immigration policy; and the 'dependent network' they provide the newest arrivals. (sound familiar?)
These people are not required to learn the language or in anyway, encouraged to assimilate - (not sure about the 'would if they could' here. . .) but these policies create a restless, dependent. . .drifting population and results in a serious increase in crime. (sound familiar?)
When crimes occur. . .the Socialist leadership will not go to the heart of the matter; but rather, go to the Party-serving MO - the'politically-correct' response. The perp is the victim. . .the community just needs to care/do more to accomodate them.
And of course, this 'empathy' again; insures a voting block that supports the socialist leadership. Sound familiar?
The evil that Socialism cultivates is an evil that takes many forms. . .and unless some changes appear on the European horizon. . .the slippery slope that can lead to hell will continue to accomodate those who determinedly set upon it. It has before. . . it can again. . .
Bush/America continue to lead. . .but we must do even more. The assaults from the 'Left' here at home and from our 'friends', across Europe must be continually dealt with. Our slippery slope is scary enough already.
How much do you know about Islam? It's the same thing as Christianity for the most part. The only thing different about it is that it is mainly located in a region that has been exploding with civil wars and violence for the past 2000 years. Also, the Nazis did have a reason to fear the jews. The jews were often blamed for riots, murder, intolerance, and animalistic behaviour, the same thing we do to the Islamic population. Are there violent/extremist Islam organizations out there? Yes. Should we kill the majority because of the minority? No. If you do believe so, then we might as well nuke Texas because there have been far more Americans murdered there than terrorists have ever been able to kill.
Secondly, I say 'you people' because I do not believe any of you to be actual conservatives. You claim to be moral, but then you choose war over peace, intolerance over acceptance, choose social good over liberty, and buy into the left/right paradigm that is infecting this country's ability to mantain peace and prosperity. I am anti-gun control, I am pro-life, I am against homosexuality, I have read the Constitution and value it highly, and I prefer to preserve life, liberty, and freedom in the face of any threat. If you all want to commit genocide and call it god's will, then go ahead. But don't think I won't try and stop you.
Actually, to be more accurate, we view Islam the same way we viewed Nazism.
How are Christianity and islam 'alike'?