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Born-Again President -- White House Hanukkah
Los Angeles Times ^ | December 19, 2004 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 12/19/2004 10:55:57 AM PST by EveningStar

Only in America does a president light a menorah while a Jewish choral group sings Hebrew songs and the Marine band plays American songs. Only in America do Jews feel so honored as Jews and yet so completely part of the larger culture, fully Jewish and fully part of the greater nationality. Non-American Jews (including even Canadians) are often amazed at how completely American Jews in the U.S. feel. We take it for granted, but as a former college lecturer in Jewish history, I know that this is unique.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: americanjews; chanukah; dennisprager; hanukkah; jews; judeochristian; nationalmenorah
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1 posted on 12/19/2004 10:55:57 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: Alouette; SJackson

ping


2 posted on 12/19/2004 10:56:32 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
Most Jews, including some at this celebration, still instinctively vote Democrat.

Sad.

3 posted on 12/19/2004 11:01:06 AM PST by Drango (Those who advocate robbing (taxing) Peter to pay Paul...will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Drango

True. But this is a positive article and I hope this will be a positive thread. :)


4 posted on 12/19/2004 11:06:24 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
Malachi 4: (KJV)

5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

I have always believed that "the fathers" are the Jews and "the children" are the Christians.

5 posted on 12/19/2004 11:11:58 AM PST by mfulstone
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To: EveningStar

GAGGGGGGGGG!! I have to register to read the rest of the article with the LA Slimes...I rather bite my tongue than give them a website hit!!


6 posted on 12/19/2004 11:12:14 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Drango

Speaking as a Jew and a Republican since I was old enough to vote, I think more and more Jewish voters will come to see the Democrats as the wackos they've become exhibiting their anti-religious ways. My hope is that more and more Jews will break free of the Democrat mindset--that is if you think they even have a mind.


7 posted on 12/19/2004 11:12:27 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: EveningStar

This year's White House holiday display has not only the Christmas tree and the Menorah, but a creche, some really cool toy trains, and an awesome fire pit full of large burning logs, and a sign explaining that they are Yule logs.


8 posted on 12/19/2004 11:13:20 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: RoseofTexas

Per the agreement between FR and the LAT, we may only excerpt.


9 posted on 12/19/2004 11:14:07 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: 1bigdictator; 1st-P-In-The-Pod; 2sheep; 7.62 x 51mm; A Jovial Cad; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; ...
President Bush looks on as 13-year-old Menachem Felzenberg, right, lights the Menorah before the annual White House Hanukkah Reception on Thursday, Dec. 9, 2004 in Washington.  Menachem is the son of US Army Cpt. Shmuel Felzenberg, currently serving with the 84th Engineer Battalion in Iraq. The Felzenberg family are, from left, Frieda, Nechama, Ahuva, President Bush, and Menachem, lighting the Menorah.  (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)
Thu Dec 9, 5:28 PM ET
AP

President Bush looks on as 13-year-old Menachem Felzenberg, right, lights the Menorah before the annual White House Hanukkah Reception on Thursday, Dec. 9, 2004 in Washington. Menachem is the son of US Army Cpt. Shmuel Felzenberg, currently serving with the 84th Engineer Battalion in Iraq. The Felzenberg family are, from left, Frieda, Nechama, Ahuva, President Bush, and Menachem, lighting the Menorah. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

President Bush, and 12 year-old Chaim Felzenberg watch as the Kol Zimra choir sing after lighting the Menorah before the annual White House Hanukkah Reception on Thursday, Dec. 9, 2004 in Washington.  (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)
Thu Dec 9, 5:28 PM ET
AP

President Bush, and 12 year-old Chaim Felzenberg watch as the Kol Zimra choir sing after lighting the Menorah before the annual White House Hanukkah Reception on Thursday, Dec. 9, 2004 in Washington. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

U.S. President George W. Bush looks on after a menorah was lit for Hanukkah at the White House in Washington December 9, 2004. Tonight marks day three of the Jewish holiday. At right is the Kol Zimra choir. REUTERS/Shaun Heasley
Thu Dec 9, 5:18 PM ET
Reuters

U.S. President George W. Bush looks on after a menorah was lit for Hanukkah at the White House in Washington December 9, 2004. Tonight marks day three of the Jewish holiday. At right is the Kol Zimra choir. REUTERS/Shaun Heasley

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10 posted on 12/19/2004 11:15:01 AM PST by Alouette (9 kids, 0 abortions, no kidding)
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To: EveningStar

Anyone here know what "The Hannakah" song is? My grandson lamented not being able to sing CHRISTMAS songs (religious in tone, like Silent Night) but said they sung THE HANNAKAH Song at their School program.....just wondering.


11 posted on 12/19/2004 11:25:34 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tax cuts, Tax reform, social security reform, Supreme Court, etc.....the next 4 years.....)
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To: goodnesswins

ahem...they "sang"


12 posted on 12/19/2004 11:25:54 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tax cuts, Tax reform, social security reform, Supreme Court, etc.....the next 4 years.....)
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To: EveningStar

Good article from Dennis Prager. Jews are slowly changing their views. About 30% voted for Bush this year - that's more the blacks and only slightly fewer than Hispanics. Christianity is good for Jews because it will keep America apart from Europe and an increasingly hostile Islam AND because it will keep Jews Jewish. Two good reasons to celebrate Hannukah this year and to wish a more Christian society for our Christian friends. Merry Chrismas to Freepers!


13 posted on 12/19/2004 11:27:41 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goodnesswins
Anyone here know what "The Hannakah" song is?

Well, there are many songs for Hannukah but since it was in a public school it was probably that stupid Adam Sandler song.

14 posted on 12/19/2004 11:27:53 AM PST by Alouette (9 kids, 0 abortions, no kidding)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Its not likely you will see people like my father do it - old people are set in their ways. But younger Jews have fewer and fewer reasons to vote Democrat anymore, as Dennis indicated in today's article. We're witnessing a sea change in the American Jewish community. And change of this magnitude takes time to fully effect itself.


15 posted on 12/19/2004 11:30:28 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: mfulstone
I have always believed that "the fathers" are the Jews and "the children" are the Christians.

The children could be 'the gentiles' since the Israelites were to be a linght unto the nations, and nations meant gentiles, and the gentiles were supposed to be grafted unto the Jews.

16 posted on 12/19/2004 11:31:02 AM PST by Netizen
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To: Alouette

What an incredibley unbelievable photo that young man will have! Wow! That will be a family heirloom for sure.


17 posted on 12/19/2004 11:33:11 AM PST by Dogbert41
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To: EveningStar

I don't think you can feel American if you don't support the Constitution -- 100%.


18 posted on 12/19/2004 11:36:34 AM PST by henderson field
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To: EveningStar

BTTT


19 posted on 12/19/2004 11:44:44 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: EveningStar
"Morning Glory"

"Evening Grace"

Merry Christmas.

FMCDH(BITS)

20 posted on 12/19/2004 11:49:20 AM PST by nothingnew (Kerry is gone...perhaps to Lake Woebegone)
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To: Alouette
Well, there are many songs for Hannukah but since it was in a public school it was probably that stupid Adam Sandler song.

We're doomed if they sang that in school. Could it have been I Have A Little Dreidel?

On second thought, there is a song called Light the Candle that is often referred to as The Hanukkah Song.

21 posted on 12/19/2004 11:57:38 AM PST by freespirited (Kerry ravaged the reputation of Vietnam vets in a manner reminiscent of a creepy liar.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
22 posted on 12/19/2004 12:06:56 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: nothingnew
Put on your yamaca It's time for Hanukkah So much fun-uka To celebrate Hanukkah Hanukka is, the festival of lights Instead of one day of presents We get eight crazy nights When you fell like the only kid in town Without a Christmas tree Here's a list of people who are Jewish Just like you and me David Lee Roth lights the menorah So does James Concord Douglas and the late Dina Shora Guess who eats together at the Carnegie Deli Bowser from Sha NaNa and Arthur Fonzerelli. Ponoman's half Jewish, Goldie Hawn's half, too. Put them together, what a fine looking Jew You don't need deck the halls or Jingle Bell Rock 'Cuz you can spin a dredl with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock Both Jewish! O.J. Simpson, not a Jew But guess who is, Hall of Famer Rod Carew We got Ann Landers and her sister Dear Abby Harrison Ford's a quarter Jewish Not too shabby Some people think that Ebenezer Scrogge is Well he's not, but guess who is All three stooges So many Jews are in show biz Tom Cruise isnt, but I heard his agent is Tell your friend Veronica It's time to celebrat Hanukkah Don't forget harmonica On this lovely, lovely Hanukkah So drink your gin and tonic-a And smoke your maraijuana-ca If you really, really, really, really wanna-ka Have a happy, happy, happy, happy, Hannukah Happy Hanukkah
23 posted on 12/19/2004 12:13:07 PM PST by traumer
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To: EveningStar

W visiting Israel, November 1998

24 posted on 12/19/2004 1:05:34 PM PST by dennisw (Help put the "Ch" back in Chanukah)
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To: RoseofTexas

http://bugmenot.com/


25 posted on 12/19/2004 1:05:44 PM PST by netmilsmom (Zell on DEM Christianity, "They can hum the tune, but can't sing the song.")
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To: traumer

If that's the best they have to illustrate their holiday - that's sad....


26 posted on 12/19/2004 1:13:36 PM PST by solitas
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To: goodnesswins

Oh dreidel dreidel dreidel, I made it out of clay ...


27 posted on 12/19/2004 1:24:26 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: EveningStar
Remember this:
This is only possible because this Republic was founded by Calvinists as a Christian Nation in Freedom under the Christ.
The founders insisted that we never have a National religion.

It is sad as this nation now has a National Religion of Atheism.

His willing bondslave
chuck
28 posted on 12/19/2004 1:25:30 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua == YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: XeniaSt

What do you think our National Religion is?


29 posted on 12/19/2004 1:28:07 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
To Jewish Freepers,

Happy Hanukkah!

Barnacle
30 posted on 12/19/2004 1:34:53 PM PST by Barnacle (We dodged the bullet to our head. Now we'd better get back to treating the cancer.)
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To: goldstategop; Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
Two good reasons to celebrate Hannukah this year and to wish a more Christian society for our Christian friends. Merry Chrismas to Freepers!

Thank you! And Happy Hanukkah to all our Jewish FReepers.

31 posted on 12/19/2004 1:38:31 PM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: EveningStar

He said atheism.

I believe the nation was founded on a belief in God, not a label like 'christianity'. I think the 'christianity' label just compartmentalizes people and separates them instead of unifying them under the One God.


32 posted on 12/19/2004 1:42:34 PM PST by Netizen
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To: EveningStar
What do you think our National Religion is?

Our Supreme Court has decided
this is an nation based on Humanism
No longer based on Christ.

How sad it is to see this country slid into the cesspool of Humanism

His willing bondslave
chuck
33 posted on 12/19/2004 2:18:50 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua == YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: solitas
If that's the best they have to illustrate their holiday - that's sad....

No, don't worry -- that was just a funny song someone came out with a few years ago. I like the part, "O.J. Simpson -- not a Jew!" Upon which the audience in the recording breaks out in relieved, nervous laughter. The song is just a harmless joke.

34 posted on 12/19/2004 3:03:41 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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To: Jeremiah Jr; Lijahsbubbe; concretebob
Non-American Jews (including even Canadians) are often amazed at how completely American Jews in the U.S. feel. We take it for granted, but as a former college lecturer in Jewish history, I know that this is unique.

The House of Judah is a subset of the whole House of Israel ping. It will make sense soon enough, why the nation of Israel in the land of Israel was named Israel (vs. say, Judah).

Ezekiel 37:21-22 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:

Jeremiah 31:8-10

8 Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither.
9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.
10 Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.

35 posted on 12/19/2004 3:46:34 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: EveningStar

Bump!! I love this, and I love Prager. He rocks.


36 posted on 12/19/2004 3:49:46 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I actually voted for John Kerry...before I voted against him.)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
My inference was: that the shown performer (definitely not an actor) is a talentless joke.
37 posted on 12/19/2004 4:35:03 PM PST by solitas
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To: EveningStar
Pres. Bush is has purposely distanced himself from the liberal American Jewish establishment.

Someone present at the White House described the event like this:

An intimate December 9 meeting between the president and 15 communal leaders featured 10 Orthodox rabbis, one Orthodox rebbetzin, four Reform rabbis and not one Conservative Jew.

The 500-person White House Hanukkah party, held later that night, was choc-a-bloc with Orthodox Jews in beards, hats and yarmulkes, according to participants.

And the family of a Lubavitch chaplain stationed in Iraq had the honor of lighting the Hanukkah menorah at a White House candle-lighting ceremony.


38 posted on 12/19/2004 5:00:36 PM PST by hlmencken3 ("...politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition")
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To: goodnesswins

I'm sorry to hear that they've banned Christmas at your child's school. That really isn't fair. Besides, it's not like Jews mind Christmas -- quite the opposite! I love the beautiful decorations and the music. I sang in a choir that had a reportoire of carols and church music. Beautiful stuff.


39 posted on 12/19/2004 5:07:30 PM PST by Jew4GWB (Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in.)
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To: XeniaSt

Humanism? Hardly. Humanism implies to me that 'anything' goes.

To designate March 26, 1991, as `Education Day, U.S.A.'. (Received in Senate from House)

HJ 104 RDS

102d CONGRESS

1st Session

H. J. RES. 104

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

March 6 (legislative day, FEBRUARY 6), 1991

Received

JOINT RESOLUTION

To designate March 26, 1991, as `Education Day, U.S.A.'.

Whereas Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles which are the basis of civilized society and upon which our great Nation was founded;

Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws;

Whereas without these ethical values and principles the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos;

Whereas society is profoundly concerned with the recent weakening of these principles that has resulted in crises that beleaguer and threaten the fabric of civilized society;

Whereas the justified preoccupation with these crises must not let the citizens of this Nation lose sight of their responsibility to transmit these historical ethical values from our distinguished past to the generations of the future;

Whereas the Lubavitch movement has fostered and promoted these ethical values and principles throughout the world;

Whereas Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, leader of the Lubavitch movement, is universally respected and revered and his eighty-ninth birthday falls on March 26, 1991;

Whereas in tribute to this great spiritual leader, `the rebbe,' this, his ninetieth year will be seen as one of `education and giving,' the year in which we turn to education and charity to return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws; and

Whereas this will be reflected in an international scroll of honor signed by the President of the United States and other heads of state: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That March 26, 1991, the start of the ninetieth year of Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, leader of the worldwide Lubavitch movement, is designated as `Education Day, U.S.A.'. The President is requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities.

Passed the House of Representatives March 5, 1991.

Attest:

DONNALD K. ANDERSON,

Clerk.




The Seven Noahide Laws, B'nai Noach


40 posted on 12/19/2004 5:18:39 PM PST by ET(end tyranny) (Psalm 146:3 - Put not your trust in Princes, nor in the Son of Man, in whom there is no help.)
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To: ET(end tyranny)

 

http://www.jcn.com/humanism.html

 

What is Humanism?

by Frederick Edwords

 Executive Director, American Humanist Association


41 posted on 12/19/2004 5:38:50 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua == YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: XeniaSt
Do you have a problem with the following?
To serve personal needs, Religious Humanism offers a basis for moral values, an inspiring set of ideals, methods for dealing with life's harsher realities, a rationale for living life joyously, and an overall sense of purpose.

42 posted on 12/19/2004 5:53:04 PM PST by ET(end tyranny) (Psalm 146:3 - Put not your trust in Princes, nor in the Son of Man, in whom there is no help.)
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To: XeniaSt
How sad it is to see this country slid into the cesspool of Humanism

How about clarifying just which humanism, you are talking about, since your link provides many.

43 posted on 12/19/2004 5:54:59 PM PST by ET(end tyranny) (Psalm 146:3 - Put not your trust in Princes, nor in the Son of Man, in whom there is no help.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Do you listen to him? He's on at the same time as Rush. I still like Rush a lot but I frequently tune into Dennis. He's great. So is Medved, who follows him. :)


44 posted on 12/19/2004 6:02:13 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: ET(end tyranny)

Do you have a problem with the following?

 

 To serve personal needs, Religious Humanism offers a basis for moral values, an inspiring set of ideals, methods for dealing with life's harsher realities, a rationale for living life joyously, and an overall sense of purpose.

 

42 posted on 12/19/2004 6:53:04 PM MST by ET(end tyranny) (Psalm 146:3 - Put not your trust in Princes, nor in the Son of Man, in whom there is no help.)

 

Yes because by doing so you will - Put your trust in Princes, not in the Son of Man, in whom there is help.

 


45 posted on 12/19/2004 6:33:19 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Y'shua == YHvH is my Salvation (Psalm 118-14))
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To: EveningStar; All

Alright ES rack this article

You got love Dubya only guy that I know who dont' care what ACLU or people think


46 posted on 12/19/2004 6:35:42 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: traumer; All

That my fav Version of Hankkarh song LOLOLOL!

My fav line of course talk about two most famous Star Fleet commanders LOL!


47 posted on 12/19/2004 6:37:11 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Drango

I'm a Jew. So why do 82% of all American Jews vote blindly Dimocrat...and support their boy Karl's socialist causes....and allow Israel to be the #1 thief of American technology and military secrets...even ahead of Red China. These are questions I ask fellow Jews everyday. I get pilpul in response. Someone tell me why please.


48 posted on 12/19/2004 6:37:13 PM PST by chemainus
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To: XeniaSt
I put my trust in YHWH and only Him.

Isaiah 42
8 I am YHWH, that is My name; and My glory will I not give to another, neither My praise to graven images.

Ouch on those graven images - crosses and other icons.

Isaiah 43:11 -- I, even I, am YHWH; and beside Me there is no saviour.

49 posted on 12/19/2004 6:39:50 PM PST by ET(end tyranny) (Psalm 146:3 - Put not your trust in Princes, nor in the Son of Man, in whom there is no help.)
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To: EveningStar

He's not on the air in my area, or I would. I think he's brilliant. I do listen to Michael Medved pretty much daily, though. He's probabaly my favorite. What a mind.


50 posted on 12/19/2004 7:35:29 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (I actually voted for John Kerry...before I voted against him.)
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