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WELCOME TO OUR WORLD (Liberals Are the New Gays) [Too funny]
theStranger.com ^ | November 17, 2004 | Dan Savage

Posted on 12/19/2004 3:47:25 PM PST by The Loan Arranger

Liberals are staring into the red belly of this country with incomprehension and fear. They are wondering how one even begins to talk to the huge percentage of voters who told exit pollsters last Tuesday that "moral values" guided them in choosing president Bush. Among straight liberals there is a sudden feeling that it is desperately urgent to reach out to these people, that the straight liberal way of life may depend on it.

Welcome to our world.

We gay Americans have been wondering how to engage these people for years, and not just in an abstract, political-strategizing sort of way. For too many gay Americans, the homophobic wing of the "moral values" voting bloc includes mom and dad, the ones who disowned their child simply for being queer. These kids, and those of us who befriend them in their urban exile, have long known that a vast swath of red America would like nothing better than to push us first out of their territory, and then from our coastal enclaves straight into the sea. So the wounded contempt generated by the new map of divided America isn't new to us.

(Excerpt) Read more at thestranger.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; cheney; dansavage; democrats; gay; homosexualagenda; kerrydefeat; liberals; redstates; republican; straight; values
No, I didn't make his name up...
1 posted on 12/19/2004 3:47:26 PM PST by The Loan Arranger
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To: The Loan Arranger
Gee, you'd think the liberal rat pansies were gettin nervous or something.

I can't ever imagine why.


2 posted on 12/19/2004 3:50:51 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: The Loan Arranger; admin

He's one of the most vile and disgusting wastes of DNA that ever existed.

Just look up "Santorum" to see.


3 posted on 12/19/2004 3:50:57 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. )
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To: The Loan Arranger

"If for no other reason than our own self-interest, liberal gays need to find these conservative gays and beat some sense into them."

This sounds like a hate crime in the making.

Thtop thhat!


4 posted on 12/19/2004 3:58:29 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: The Loan Arranger
From the last paragraph:

If for no other reason than our own self-interest, liberal gays need to find these conservative gays and beat some sense into them.

That might be interesting to see.

In an election where Republicans deliberately used homophobia to rally their base

Where, when, how? Seems to me the sKerry is the rat who raised the subject

5 posted on 12/19/2004 4:03:34 PM PST by Horatio Gates
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To: The Loan Arranger

You are right! Too funny! This Savage beast will never register beyond the low fuel line in the Intellectual Gas Thank of Life. His scope and understanding is so narrow that he could not possibly see or hear reality. If his speaking of parents disowning their gay children comes from personal experience, I'll bet he doesn't realize they rejected him because he is too far below their emotional reach. Not because he is gay.


6 posted on 12/19/2004 4:03:39 PM PST by whereasandsoforth
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To: The Loan Arranger
We gay Americans have been wondering how to engage these people for years...

Sniff... we've tried so hard to connect with mainstream America... snuffle... we've had such a hard time relating to the Christians in this country, even though they are stupid, inbred, uneducated, sister-marrying trailer-trash... sniff... we're so tired of being downtrodden... we're so afraid... why can't the Nazi Christians just treat us with the dignity we deserve...?


7 posted on 12/19/2004 4:33:32 PM PST by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: The Loan Arranger
(Quote from article)If for no other reason than our own self-interest, liberal gays need to find these conservative gays and beat some sense into them.(/Quote from article)

Just goes to show, if you shut up for long enough, the democrats will let their game slip in a feeble attempt to fill the empty air.
8 posted on 12/19/2004 4:35:03 PM PST by ClockworkNinja (The first time we fought the UN's way was the Korean War. We are still there. Think about that.)
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To: The Loan Arranger

Dan Savage is a bad person. His dishonesty is so fundamental, his animosity toward conservatives so venomous, he simply must be driven by a completely nihilistic misanthropy. He hates mankind and thus is a danger to all.


9 posted on 12/19/2004 4:36:57 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

If memory serves me correctly, wasn't Danny Boy the one who infiltrated Gary Bauer's campaign in 2000 and sneezed on everything (apparently thinking/hoping he could spread the flu)and then bragged about it in a column a couple of weeks later?


10 posted on 12/19/2004 4:42:10 PM PST by G-dzilla (Pinellas County: Half of our voters believe in the future)
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To: The Loan Arranger
They tho thilly.


11 posted on 12/19/2004 4:47:49 PM PST by rdb3 (Can I join the Pajamahadeen even if I sleep in the nude?)
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To: The Loan Arranger

"Straight Liberal". Isn't that an oxymoron?


12 posted on 12/19/2004 4:48:27 PM PST by conservativeharleyguy
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To: G-dzilla
wasn't Danny Boy the one who infiltrated Gary Bauer's campaign

Yes, that was our Dan. He feels entitled to do absolutely anything he wants to other people. He is evil.

13 posted on 12/19/2004 4:53:29 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: G-dzilla; rogue yam

The Door Knob Licker

14 posted on 12/19/2004 5:08:41 PM PST by Bonaparte (Of course, it must look like an accident...)
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To: The Loan Arranger
I thought the use of the word "homophobia" was on the wane. The correct term should be homonausea. Since what queers do is nauseating, digusgting, revolting, and sickening, the word homonausea is far more correct.
15 posted on 12/19/2004 5:29:23 PM PST by LoneSome Journey
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To: The Loan Arranger

Savage, the would-be bio-terrorist (no, I'm not kidding, google what he tried to do to Gary Bauer)...

Anyway, a point that we should all stop and consider. Part of the left's whining and fear is just political gaming and poor sportsmenship.

However, part of it is projection. If the Democrats were in the same position today as the Republicans are, we could look forward to speech codes, more violations of the rights of pro-life activists, supression of the rightwing alternative press, and more along the same lines.


16 posted on 12/19/2004 5:33:30 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Dowd wrote that Kerry was defeated by a "jihad" of Christians...Finally a jihad liberals oppose!)
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To: The Loan Arranger

For too many gay Americans, the homophobic wing of the "moral values" voting bloc includes mom and dad

Homophobic is a misnomer just because you don't agree with homosexuality does not mean that we fear homos.


17 posted on 12/19/2004 5:56:32 PM PST by weshess (I will stop hunting when the animals agree to quit jumping in front of my gun to commit suicide)
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To: weshess

sorry we should = you.


18 posted on 12/19/2004 6:00:18 PM PST by weshess (I will stop hunting when the animals agree to quit jumping in front of my gun to commit suicide)
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To: Bonaparte

Did you say, "Knob Licker?"

Now, now. Don't be nasty.


19 posted on 12/19/2004 8:00:03 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Democrat Obstructionists will be Daschled!)
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To: Brad Cloven
When he said he sneezed on papers trying to get people sick...I thought he meant that he licked on door knobs trying to get people sick.

That's what he meant.....right?

20 posted on 12/19/2004 9:01:38 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Brad Cloven
I report, you decide.
21 posted on 12/19/2004 10:02:46 PM PST by Bonaparte (Of course, it must look like an accident...)
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To: The Loan Arranger

It is also a waste of time, which bring us to the second lesson gay people have learned in dealing with America's homophobic "moral values" voters: A certain percentage of these religious fundamentalists simply cannot be swayed from their beliefs. There is no debate with them, no appeal to rationality or even common humanity. God has told them what's right, and they're not changing. The gay children of people like this generally have to cut off or greatly circumscribe contact with their parents in order to maintain their own dignity. It is a painful process, but ultimately it creates the reward fundamentalists deserve: estrangement from the open-minded world and a lonely death. The Democrats should do likewise: give up on the fundamentalists who simply won't change, and let them die estranged from our culture.

The fear, looking at the electoral map, is that we simply can't do this now because there seems to be more of them than us, meaning they're not dying off fast enough, or if they are, they're being rapidly replaced by new true believers.




The fool gets it - he doesn't really want to believe it, but many more Americans are finally recognizing that the satanic social experiment that peaked in power during the 60s and 70s has done enormous damage to our culture. He and his ilk will eventually die back, but of course given the sin nature of man, they will never be entirely gone. Perhaps in the Ameica of my daughter's children, they will again be shamed enough to be back in the closet where they belong.


22 posted on 12/20/2004 7:01:08 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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