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Democrats 'out of business in the South'
http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/national_politics/article/0,1426,MCA_15116_3411716,00.html ^

Posted on 12/20/2004 4:24:39 AM PST by Ellesu

Edited on 12/20/2004 4:43:12 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON -- The generation-long political retreat of Democrats across the South is disintegrating into a rout.

President Bush dominated the South so completely in last month's presidential election that he carried nearly 85 percent of all the counties across the region -- and more than 90 percent of counties where whites are a majority of the population, a Los Angeles Times analysis of the election shows.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushcountry; democrats; kerrydefeat; southernvote
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1 posted on 12/20/2004 4:24:39 AM PST by Ellesu
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To: Ellesu

They have NO one except maybe Joe Lieberman. Other than that and barring any unforseen circumstances and the way this Christmas (or lack thereof) went this year they will NEVER win the south!


2 posted on 12/20/2004 4:29:06 AM PST by stopem
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To: Ellesu

So much for the long-discredited idea that the South lost the Civil War!


3 posted on 12/20/2004 4:30:38 AM PST by Capriole (the Luddite hypocritically clicking away on her computer)
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To: Ellesu

Voice of Nelson from the Simpsons:


"HA_Ha!"


4 posted on 12/20/2004 4:32:18 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Atheist federal employees-- demand to work on Christmas!)
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To: Ellesu
Yep. They are closed up tighter than Dick's hatband. Whoever Dick is. It's a southern saying. They are scarcer(?) than canned onion rings at a green bean casserole cookoff. They are as unwanted as Helen Thomas at a single's dance.

Basically, they're DONE.

5 posted on 12/20/2004 4:34:26 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: Capriole
"So much for the long-discredited idea that the South lost the Civil War!"

Uh, yeah. That must explain the Jefferson Davis presidency after he declared the war over and took office... I really like that memorial of him in Washington not far from the Washington one...

Let's not get crazy, folks.

6 posted on 12/20/2004 4:34:45 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Atheist federal employees-- demand to work on Christmas!)
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To: Ellesu
The area we live in- between Jacksonville & Savannah- was about 80% Democrat until Ronald Reagan came along.

Back then, I cannot recall a single office holder from here who was a Republican- you simply could not win office with an R before your name.

The great irony in that was that conservative, Southern Democrats were probably farther to the right than most current, "moderate" Republicans. Strong supporters of the military, free speech, gun rights. Big on "family values." Think of Zell Miller, and you will have some idea of what they were like.

7 posted on 12/20/2004 4:35:23 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Ellesu
"We are out of business in the South," said J.W. Brannen, the Democratic Party chairman in Russell County, Ala

Don't feel too bad, J.W. Look at the corrupt Dem./socialist inner cities of the nation, like Philly, NYC, Detroit, etc., etc., etc.

Put some ice on it down there ........ if it hurts so bad.

8 posted on 12/20/2004 4:35:37 AM PST by beyond the sea (Can boys join the Camp Fire Girls? ....... Only after lights out.)
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To: small voice in the wilderness
"green bean casserole "

Why has this suddenly become the new national dish? BLECH! I hate green beans!

9 posted on 12/20/2004 4:35:39 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Atheist federal employees-- demand to work on Christmas!)
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To: Ellesu

It's not just the south...the Dems have just as little chance in most of the west as well.


10 posted on 12/20/2004 4:36:00 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: small voice in the wilderness
They are as unwanted as Helen Thomas at a single's dance.

ROFL......

11 posted on 12/20/2004 4:38:46 AM PST by beyond the sea (Can boys join the Camp Fire Girls? ....... Only after lights out.)
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To: Darkwolf377

LOL! Who knows what attracts someone to canned green beans, canned soup, and canned onion rings. I fear canned lettuce cannot be far off in our future.


12 posted on 12/20/2004 4:39:07 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: Ellesu

Heck, the Dems couldn't even win most of the counties in NYS. The only truly blue state in the nation was MA. The Dems have had it for the foreseeable future.


13 posted on 12/20/2004 4:39:16 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: stopem
They have NO one except maybe Joe Lieberman.

Or they can use "re-framing" to put up another liberal dressed in conservative clothing.

Telling lies comes easier than finding a conservative Dems could nominate.

14 posted on 12/20/2004 4:39:25 AM PST by Tom Bombadil
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To: small voice in the wilderness
They are scarcer(?) than canned onion rings at a green bean casserole cookoff.

As scarce as decency in The Queen of Darkness.

15 posted on 12/20/2004 4:41:43 AM PST by beyond the sea (Can boys join the Camp Fire Girls? ....... Only after lights out.)
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To: Tom Bombadil

That's why Hillary will be there nominee in 2008.


16 posted on 12/20/2004 4:41:50 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: stopem

It never ceases to amaze me how many Republicans have this "love" fest going with Lieberman. How soon we forget!! As Algore's running mate, Lieberman was quick to push ALL of his previously held principles aside and was vocal in restating his beliefs. Ultra libeatl beliefs. Have we forgotten???


17 posted on 12/20/2004 4:42:30 AM PST by HiramQuick
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To: Ellesu

"The generation-long political retreat of Democrats across the South is disintegrating into a rout."

This is news?


18 posted on 12/20/2004 4:43:02 AM PST by Preachin' (Democrats know that they can never run on their real agenda.)
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To: Ellesu
That is the most either party has controlled in the region since Democrats also won 22 in 1964 -- the election in which the white backlash against the Civil Rights Act allowed the GOP to make its first inroads into the South.

They dance around Vietnam and the leftist radical takeover of the Democrat Party which drove the South into the Republican party. The CRA passed in 1964 and the Democrats swept the congressional elections. They always cite the the Civil Rights Act, but the fact is more Republicans supported it than Democrats. Civil Rights is not what drove the South to the Republicans. It was in 1972 that the South switched, and it was the Democrats anti-military stance on the Vietnam War that caused the switch.

19 posted on 12/20/2004 4:46:18 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: stopem
Do not be so sure. Florida could tip with just a little more of the noxious combination of immigration and emigration.

Virginia is in a similar flex point and might turn in a cycle or two for the same reasons.

While not part of the old South, New Mexico and to a lesser degree AZ and Nev. are also vulnerable.

If we lose Florida, the Bush coalition becomes transformed. What once was an impregnable citadel from which to sally forth to poach the odd blue state, now becomes a bunker where we ultimately become reduced to relying on the filibuster to avert catastrophe.

To avoid this we must stop uncontrolled immigration or your precious (ok, our precious) South will be gone with the wind. We must stop Hispanic immigration while at the same time keeping at least 40% of its vote in national elections. Even Slick Willie would have difficulty with that straddle. But there is a good chance Hispanics will accept that rational controls on immigration are in their own interests.
20 posted on 12/20/2004 4:48:55 AM PST by nathanbedford (THE UN WAS BRIBED AND GOOD MEN DIED)
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To: mewzilla

Kerry didn't win some of those midwestern states by very much.


21 posted on 12/20/2004 4:49:05 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Ellesu

John Edwards certainly didn't help.


22 posted on 12/20/2004 4:49:12 AM PST by shekkian
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To: mainepatsfan

The Toons are taking their party down with them. Fine by me.


23 posted on 12/20/2004 4:50:26 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: small voice in the wilderness

Their as useless as Chicken Shit on a pump handle is one of my favorites and the Dems are certainly that.


24 posted on 12/20/2004 4:50:44 AM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: 26lemoncharlie
That's a good one!

The face of the Democrat Party is so ugly it could spook a stick-horse.

25 posted on 12/20/2004 4:52:45 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: mewzilla

Michael Moore is an anchor both literally and figuratively.


26 posted on 12/20/2004 4:53:44 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Ellesu

actually the democrats lost 82% of the counties nationwide so the trend the LA times is attributing to the south is valid nationwide as well...


27 posted on 12/20/2004 4:55:38 AM PST by thejokker
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To: shekkian

Remember when Kerry picked him and all the MSM was so sure he would help the Dems in the south. Idiots.


28 posted on 12/20/2004 4:56:44 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: All

Like goose grease on a door knob, as my dad would say.

His parents, southern Democrats, would roll over in their grave at what their party turned into and Dad was sort of a homeless voter. Didn't like Bush, didn't like Kerry ... so he voted for Laura Bush ;-)

Ann


29 posted on 12/20/2004 4:56:49 AM PST by Cloverfarm (Red-state Natalist)
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To: Ellesu
That is the most either party has controlled in the region since Democrats also won 22 in 1964 -- the election in which the white backlash against the Civil Rights Act allowed the GOP to make its first inroads into the South.

Wait a minute, this doesn't make sense. The Donks won 22 seats in 1964, but that was the year the "white backlash" against the Civil Rights Act helped the Republicans. If the "white backlash" was helping the Republicans, how did the Donks win 22 seats?

Of course, it could be because it was the Southern Democrats who stood firm against the Civil Rights Act in 1964, as they had throughout the 1950s and early 60s. Perhaps the "white backlash" was rewarding the Democrats, who had stood foursquare against desegregation for the previous 100 years.

But you tell a reporter these days that the Democrats were the segregationists back then, they'll look at you like you have two heads.

30 posted on 12/20/2004 4:58:59 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Ellesu

In Spite of the NEA and other thought police, the South still raises Patriotic Sons and Daughters willing to defend their country - a small but distinctive difference.


31 posted on 12/20/2004 5:02:05 AM PST by yoe
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To: stopem

The only thing Republicans have to take into account is 70 million baby boomers retiring in the next 8-10 years and a lot of them will move south.

There are only two Democrat families in our neighborhood of mostly retirees and one of those families is from New Jersey.


32 posted on 12/20/2004 5:03:47 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists and international criminals than they ever captured or killed)
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To: nathanbedford
We must stop Hispanic immigration while at the same time keeping at least 40% of its vote in national elections.

But you can not stop Puerto Rican immigration. They are American citizens. And these are people of great fecundity who vote rat. Central Florida is quickly becoming one large barrio containing enclaves of English speakers. And then there's the other immigration problem we can not stop...the NYers.

33 posted on 12/20/2004 5:07:12 AM PST by StockAyatollah (Christmas is America. Love it or leave it!)
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To: 26lemoncharlie
As my dad says, "They don't have enough sense to poor piss out of a boot with the directions written on the heel".
34 posted on 12/20/2004 5:07:12 AM PST by Ellesu
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To: mainepatsfan
That's why Hillary(!) will be there nominee in 2008.

Yup. If they nominate any other candidate, they will lose on the issues, big time. The mass of people just don't support the top-down, big government Democrat approach to everything, anymore.

And, yes, GWB is no prize in this department, but you gotta admit, the Donks are worse. Much worse.

But with Hillary! they can run an absolutely content-free campaign. It will be personality driven from the git go. All discussion of policy will be reduced to hand-waving and pointing to a Senate record that is manufactured for the specific purpose of innoculating Hillary! from the obvious fact that she is a raving lunatic Liberal.

Hillary! 2008 will make the recent campaign look like a love-fest by comparison. It will be Moonbats on Parade from start to finish. The Republican nominee, whoever he (or she!) is will be demonized beyond belief, and the LibMedia will carry water for Hillary! at every stage.

It will be the Main Event. I think, in the end, the Republicans will win, but it will be a wild ride!

35 posted on 12/20/2004 5:12:04 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Ellesu
I found myself hearing the funeral dirge while reading this post.

Odd, it's really a catchy tune in this context. ;)

36 posted on 12/20/2004 5:12:06 AM PST by G.Mason (The replies by this poster are meant for self amusement only. Read at your own discretion.)
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To: StockAyatollah

Even though I've recently moved out of FL, I think my tagline still applies (at least to the second immigration problem). :-)


37 posted on 12/20/2004 5:12:27 AM PST by adx (Why's it called "tourist season" if you ain't allowed to shoot 'em?)
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To: Peach

Wow, good point. I never even considered that as a possibility.


38 posted on 12/20/2004 5:12:44 AM PST by stopem
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To: nathanbedford
Do not be so sure. Florida could tip with just a little more of the noxious combination of immigration and emigration.

As a native Floridian I understand the fear. But, The FDR/New Deal/Jewish/socialist/New Yorker transplants in South Florida are dying off. The new immigrants, who settle for instance in The Villages, are Republican. The vibrant Cuban demographic in S. Fl., is solidly Republican. We just elected the first Cuban-American (Mel Martinez) to the U.S. Senate. Fl. will become more Conservative.

40 posted on 12/20/2004 5:19:10 AM PST by jslade (People who are easily offended......OFFEND ME!)
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To: Ellesu

Now the danger is that Republican politicians become self-serving and compromise conservative values.


41 posted on 12/20/2004 5:23:57 AM PST by SolutionsOnly (but some people really NEED to be offended...)
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To: HiramQuick
"It never ceases to amaze me how many Republicans have this "love" fest going with Lieberman. How soon we forget!! As Algore's running mate, Lieberman was quick to push ALL of his previously held principles aside and was vocal in restating his beliefs ..."

Yes sir! At least here on FR.

Lie berman is northeastern slime, and inasmuch as the "new" Dimocrat Party has thrown themselves overboard, in their successful attempt at obscurity, that jackass looks good to many.

When you think about it, for Dims, it is reasonable.

Sharpton, Kucinich, Mostley Braun, Graham, Dean, Kerry, Gebhardt, Edwards???

I look at that line up and my right index finger twitches. ;)

42 posted on 12/20/2004 5:26:58 AM PST by G.Mason (The replies by this poster are meant for self amusement only. Read at your own discretion.)
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To: gridlock

The key thing to remember about Hillary is she is not Bill in terms of a politician.


43 posted on 12/20/2004 5:27:12 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: mainepatsfan

I just hope it matters. She got elected to the Senate in New York without having to say a word...


44 posted on 12/20/2004 5:37:58 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Ellesu
I live in the Memphis area. You have no idea what it must have taken for the Commercial Appeal to print an article giving up on the Dems in the South.

There is probably not any paper anywhere in the US any more liberal than the CA.

No matter what trials that I might have today, I will be able to laugh because of this piece.
45 posted on 12/20/2004 5:41:54 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: gridlock

She'll probably carry New York in 2008...but that isn't enough to get her to 270 EV.


46 posted on 12/20/2004 5:45:10 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: stopem
If they somehow could figure a way to sneak Phil Bredeson (D - Governor Tennessee) through the primary, he could do real well in the South. In fact, we got rid of our RINO Sundquist and elected a DINO (Bredeson).

Of course, Bredeson is way too conservative to ever get through the Democratic primary.

47 posted on 12/20/2004 5:47:35 AM PST by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Ellesu; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; devolve; Boazo; Grampa Dave; Prime Choice

DEMS DEMISING IN THE SOUTH - ping.


48 posted on 12/20/2004 6:01:24 AM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: Darkwolf377
The very conservative columnist-talk show host Michael Graham, who so brilliantly performs every day on WMAL-AM in Washington, has a humorous, insightful book called Redneck Nation. In it he argues persuasively that the South did win the War in certain important ways--imposing its cultural tastes on much of America, for instance, exporting its former slaves ("You Yankees don't want us to have slaves down here? Fine, you take 'em"), and choosing presidents.

It's a joke. You know, funny because there's a bit of truth in it. Lighten up.

49 posted on 12/20/2004 6:03:10 AM PST by Capriole (the Luddite hypocritically clicking away on her computer)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

"They are closed up tighter than Dick's hatband. Whoever Dick is."

"Hat band" = foreskin.

You can guess who Dick is. :)


50 posted on 12/20/2004 6:18:59 AM PST by myheroesareDeadandRegistered (Ann Coulter/ Mark Levin tag team in '08)
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