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The Blogosphere’s Smaller Stars [Buckhead and TankerKC mentioned]
NRO ^ | December 20, 2004 | By La Shawn Barber

Posted on 12/20/2004 12:19:30 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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1 posted on 12/20/2004 12:19:31 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: eyespysomething

Thought you'd like this one


2 posted on 12/20/2004 12:23:10 PM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: Jim Robinson
At least one journalist seems to agree. Chris Satullo, editorial-page editor at the Philadelphia Inquirer, recognizes the role of bloggers but stressed that journalists are still necessary.

< Bloggers are journalists unlike, say, Inquirer editors.

3 posted on 12/20/2004 12:23:44 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Jim Robinson
He said ABC News falsely concluded that posters on FreeRepublic.com — the conservative news forum where the hoax idea germinated — were the forgers of the documents.

LOL, ABC is as stupid as CBS!

4 posted on 12/20/2004 12:24:31 PM PST by xJones
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks for the post Jim.
Thanks for what you have created Jim.


5 posted on 12/20/2004 12:29:00 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Jim Robinson
journalistic-style investigations

S/B as journalist-SHOULD BE-style investigations !!!!!!!!!!

6 posted on 12/20/2004 12:33:33 PM PST by Red Badger (If the Red States are JESUSLAND, then the Blue States are SATANLAND......)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim,

The media continues to miss part of the story. Please look at the posting below, which shows that TankerKC posted suspicions RIGHT DURING THE BROADCAST!! Note the time was 8:19pm EDT, not Pacific Time. TankerKC saw the memo and knew right away it look like BS. Buckhead then did the research and made the case.

The fraud was so obvious that Freepers were on it while the broadcast was still running. CBS HAD to know within 48 Hours at the most that the memo was bogus, yet they continued to defend it. THAT is the real story!

THE MOTHER OF ALL POSTINGS:

To: Howlin
WE NEED TO SEE THOSE MEMOS AGAIN!
They are not in the style that we used when I came in to the USAF. They looked like the style and format we started using about 12 years ago (1992). Our signature blocks were left justified, now they are rigth of center...like the ones they just showed.

Can we get a copy of those memos?


107 posted on 09/08/2004 8:19:00 PM EDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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7 posted on 12/20/2004 12:34:02 PM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: PGalt

Jim Robinson is the Patrick Henry of our time.......


8 posted on 12/20/2004 12:39:41 PM PST by Red Badger (If the Red States are JESUSLAND, then the Blue States are SATANLAND......)
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To: sauropod

read later


9 posted on 12/20/2004 12:40:31 PM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Hats off to Jim Robinson, the Ur-Blogger. You got this going years ago and now the conservatives are rapidly communicating with each other and with the world. Thanks, Jim.


10 posted on 12/20/2004 1:08:55 PM PST by sine_nomine (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Wow! Someone finally got it right and called FR a forum instead of a blog. Cool.
11 posted on 12/20/2004 2:24:01 PM PST by codyjacksmom (Proud, new 1st time grandma as of 11/07/04....now it's payback time!)
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To: Jim Robinson

"The truth shall make you free."

Thanks for all you've made possible, Jim!

Merry Christmas.


12 posted on 12/20/2004 2:55:56 PM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I think it's about time that they do a report on all these blogs being put out from pro-democracy Iraqis.

I've seen a number of good ones like democracyiniraq.blogspot.com, iraqthemodel.com, among others.

These are valuable, they contradict all the negativity we get out of the news 24/7


13 posted on 12/20/2004 4:08:18 PM PST by gemadness
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To: Jim Robinson
Actually, the language quoted in the article is from a post of mine, and it's a little sloppy. I was refuting the theory that Buckhead expressed his detailed conclusions about the documents during the program. His opinions came a couple of hours after the program, as my post details. (My post also has the first public comments by Buckhead other than on FreeRepublic.com.)

But I was fully aware that TankerKC (not "TankerC" as the article mistakenly calls him) had expressed generalized doubts about the documents during the program. I made that point clear in another post, in which I interviewed TankerKC. That post has a more detailed description of the evolution of the controversy here on FreeRepublic.com.

In any event, thanks for posting the article, and once again, my hat is off to the Freepers who first raised doubts about the documents. It was a landmark event in the history of interactions between the internet and Big Media -- and it no doubt brought down Dan Rather's career early.
14 posted on 12/20/2004 11:56:51 PM PST by Patterico
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To: gemadness
I think it's about time that they do a report on all these blogs being put out from pro-democracy Iraqis.

I agree. I had the privilege of meeting Omar and Mohammed from Iraq the Model (I described the meeting here) and it was an experience I'll remember all my life.

Someone from the L.A. Times interviewed them that same night -- but the interview never ran. Too positive a story, I guess.
15 posted on 12/21/2004 12:00:27 AM PST by Patterico
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To: Jim Robinson
The "secondary blogs" just picked up the scoops they found here on the FReep, and passed them along as their own.

But that's okay. We don't mind. Goes with the territory.

16 posted on 12/21/2004 12:01:44 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
The "secondary blogs" just picked up the scoops they found here on the FReep, and passed them along as their own.

You probably didn't mean any offense, but I resent that if it's directed towards me. I sure did pick up scoops from this forum, but didn't pass them off as my own. The NPR/Media Matters post came from several sources: a reader of mine heard the NPR story, I found the Media Matters story, and I told Buckhead about both. He told me why they had gotten the timing wrong, but was reticent about being quoted. When I first did the post, he had not given me permission to quote him; in the update, he did.

I always attribute things I get from other places, unless I have an agreement with the source not to disclose their identity. In all my posts where I picked things up from Freepers, I sourced them unless they had asked me not to.
17 posted on 12/21/2004 12:32:26 AM PST by Patterico
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To: Travis McGee

I don't mean to sound harsh, but you have to understand that accusing people of ripping off others' observations is considered an attack on our integrity. My integrity is everything and I can't have people getting the wrong impression.


18 posted on 12/21/2004 12:34:05 AM PST by Patterico
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To: Patterico

I don't even know who you are, or what secondary forums you represent. Don't take offense, but most of us don't know you either.


19 posted on 12/21/2004 7:38:26 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Jim Robinson; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Travis McGee; Squantos; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Coop; Valin
Thanks for posting this Jim. It was not just Blather who ended up as a big loser this past year. Thanks to Free Republic and conservative blogs, ABCNNBCBS took a potentially lethal blow this year.

Now we are doing the same thing with the liars/spinners suffering from Rummy Phobia.

Merry Christmas Jim.

20 posted on 12/21/2004 9:24:30 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Rummy Phobia is the new mental disorder of the left. It is similiar to Hate GW Syndrome!)
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"He said ABC News falsely concluded that posters on FreeRepublic.com — the conservative news forum where the hoax idea germinated — were the forgers of the documents"

Well, finally someone has it right, Conservative News Forum. Not a blog!

21 posted on 12/21/2004 9:27:36 AM PST by #1CTYankee
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To: Travis McGee
Travis - Patterico's been busting the LA Times's chops frequently (and most entertainly) for quite some time and his site just won the 2004 Weblog Award for sites ranked 100 to 250 in the TTLB Ecosysystem. Check it out. (Please note: I am not affiliated in any way with Patterico, other than as a frequent reader.)
22 posted on 12/21/2004 10:05:07 AM PST by macbee ("Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: Jim Robinson
Also unmentioned was the microbiologist FReeper who used a computer-graphic program normally used to spot culture growth in Petri-dishes to overlay the fake memo with one produced in Word.

They were identical, and he posted the graphic results here on FR.

I sure wish I could remember his screen name...

23 posted on 12/21/2004 10:05:40 AM PST by snopercod (Bigger government means clinton won. Less freedom means Osama won. Get it?)
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To: macbee

Never heard of him. It's all here on FR; I don't need to go off of FR just to read one more guy's opinions.


24 posted on 12/21/2004 10:08:34 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

Suit yourself. For my money, FR is not the be-all and end-all, just a wonderful gathering place for folks to discuss the news of the day. I enjoy FR along with a few other sites, such as Instapundit, Hugh Hewitt, NRO, Powerline, Patterico, Tech Central, Tim Blair, and of course Scrappleface (because "laughter is the bext medicine"). YMMV.


25 posted on 12/21/2004 10:24:41 AM PST by macbee ("Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: snopercod

If I am not mistaken, that was aruanan. It was really cool.


26 posted on 12/21/2004 4:14:59 PM PST by Buckhead
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To: Travis McGee; Patterico

Patterico is a righteous dude. His clearing up the time stamp thing was helpful in keeping the wolves at bay.


27 posted on 12/21/2004 4:17:23 PM PST by Buckhead
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To: snopercod

It was aruanan. It's post 181 on this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1211150/posts


28 posted on 12/21/2004 4:25:31 PM PST by Buckhead
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To: Buckhead

I learn new things every day on FR. Thanks for filling this in for me. I guess I tend too much to think that the sun rises and sets on FR!


29 posted on 12/21/2004 4:42:29 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Patterico

Thanks for being here. Glad to see you posting.


30 posted on 12/21/2004 4:51:35 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Howlin; doug from upland; Mia T; jwalsh07; ALOHA RONNIE

ping


31 posted on 12/21/2004 4:52:55 PM PST by nutmeg ("Let the UN investigate itself." - Juan Williams (Fox News) 12/10/04)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

32 posted on 12/21/2004 4:53:41 PM PST by nutmeg ("Let the UN investigate itself." - Juan Williams (Fox News) 12/10/04)
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To: Travis McGee
"I learn new things every day on FR. Thanks for filling this in for me. I guess I tend too much to think that the sun rises and sets on FR!

It does.

I'm here all the time.

33 posted on 12/21/2004 5:11:31 PM PST by blam
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To: Jim Robinson

Your little website may have just saved a presidency, JimRob. :)


34 posted on 12/21/2004 5:27:32 PM PST by doug from upland (Vietnam Vets: FINALLY -- welcome home, heroes)
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To: You Dirty Rats
I just happened to post right away. I'm willing to bet that others familiar with USAF memo formats recognized the errors immediately.
35 posted on 12/21/2004 5:53:14 PM PST by TankerKC (The Media turn each tactical victory for insurgents into a strategic victory for terrorists.)
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To: TankerKC

He who shoots down the enemy gets credit for the kill. Go ahead and paint a CBS Logo on the side of your plane.


36 posted on 12/21/2004 6:48:39 PM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: nutmeg

.

And yet...


LIBERAL Los Angeles Times Media Critic...


DAVID SHAW still maintains that:



RATHER's work 'Shoddy, Slipshod' not LIBERAL..?

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1227809/posts

.


37 posted on 12/21/2004 7:23:18 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.comi)
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To: Patterico

I had the privilege of meeting Omar and Mohammed from Iraq the Model

Wow! I am jealous. Those guys are the BEST!


38 posted on 12/21/2004 8:57:46 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: doug from upland

Your little website may have just saved a presidency, JimRob. :)....again.


39 posted on 12/21/2004 8:59:55 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: blam

(me too)


40 posted on 12/21/2004 9:25:15 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: TankerKC

He's right. You get the "kill."


41 posted on 12/21/2004 9:26:01 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Buckhead; aruanan
Bless you my child. My memory's become about as long as my...well, nevermind.

Thanks once again aruanan. I was very impressed with what you did.

42 posted on 12/22/2004 3:41:00 AM PST by snopercod (Bigger government means clinton won. Less freedom means Osama won. Get it?)
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To: Buckhead

Thanks, Buckhead. It was a high point of my scientific career. Ha ha ha.


43 posted on 12/22/2004 7:26:16 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Buckhead; TankerKC; Judith Anne

Thanks for the kind words, Buckhead and Judith Anne. And nice to see you again, TankerKC.


44 posted on 12/22/2004 7:43:18 PM PST by Patterico
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

45 posted on 01/10/2005 8:18:31 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT


46 posted on 01/10/2005 8:20:18 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: nutmeg

Bumpity, bump!


47 posted on 01/10/2005 8:32:59 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: nutmeg

Multi-bumps.

Failed to see this and appreciate it fully.


48 posted on 01/10/2005 8:54:57 PM PST by Spirited
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To: Jim Robinson

I want to borrow ABC's Time Machine and go back before the Rathergate episode aired...


49 posted on 01/11/2005 7:12:27 AM PST by Doctor Raoul ( ----- HERTZ: We're #1 ----- AVIS: We're #2 We Try Harder ----- CBS: We're #3 We LIE Harder)
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To: Spirited

Here's another BUMP. I'm surprised this thread hasn't grown by many more posts by now...


50 posted on 01/11/2005 7:26:44 AM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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