Skip to comments.BUSH'S IMMIGRATION PET PHRASES
Posted on 12/20/2004 12:21:42 PM PST by nanak
After the White House news conference this morning, Bill Kristol on Fox News praised President Bush's remarks about "immigration reform" as "eloquent." Beg to differ. The president's open-borders statements were empty, garish platitudes strung together sloppily like cheap Christmas lights:
Illegal aliens "do the job Americans won't do." President Bush used that dog-tired phrase about a half-dozen times during today's press conference as he defended his impending illegal alien amnesty plan. Mark Krikorian effectively puts this mindless rhetoric to rest here.
"Family values don't stop at the Rio Grande." Uh huh. Well, terrorists and gang members and drunken murderers and cop-killers don't stop there either. And based on past and recent experience, granting amnesty to 13 million law-breakers will only result in more illegal immigration, not less.
We need immigration reform that "recognizes reality." Rank-and-file immigration enforcement officials give a real reality check on the amnesty debacle here, here, and here.
As immigration enforcement veteran/former U.S. prosecutor Peter Nunez put it:
[W]e need to stop the talk of a coming amnesty, or of a guest worker program, both of which, by themselves, serve to encourage additional illegal immigration. What kind of message are we sending when we dangle that possibility before people desperate enough to put their lives at risk? Doesnt this kind of talk also indicate that we really dont care much about law breaking, that we dont really care that much about the rule of law, that these immigration laws exist only as a token objection to the violation of our sovereignty? Now, that is eloquent.
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We need to hold an intervention with Bush on this issue...
Bill Kriston and other Weekly Standard crowd including Fred Barnes = Know nothing knee jerk RINOs
Bill Kristol and other Weekly Standard crowd including Fred Barnes = Know nothing knee jerk RINOs
We don't need leverage just logic... I don't think he has had anyone pursuade him to do anytinhg about the border, yet...
#1 - ALL illiegal immigrants leave the country.
#2 - the federal/state/county/municiple govts make a real and concerted effort to find and deport any illegal immigrants that DON'T leave the USA. The border guards and customs officers have lists of those deported and DON'T let them back in.
#3 - Only those aliens with PROOF of an employer be let back into the USA.
THEN, I support the President's guest worker policy.
Exactly right. No one better to vote for and we're stuck with this nonsense for four years.
Another great article by Michelle Malkin. That gal tells it like it is. The open borders lobby must hate her guts.
The leverage you have is not with President Bush but with the coming 2006 election and with the GOP.
Someone there has to listen and do something constructive.
And if they refuse to do so, then we need to start recall campaigns and just generally make sure they do not get elected again.
Barf. Just another "Bush's crap don't stink because he's a Republican and maybe rewarding border intruders and other lawbreakers really might be a good idea after all" post.
Spoken by a true "Money before Country", traitor.
I say we kick them all out and find out if this statement is true or just 'talk'.
I say we kick them all out and find out if this statement is true or just 'talk'.
GOP Congress would have likely resisted JFK amnesty schemes, yet stands a good chance of approving the same perfidy from this stammering clown.
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Cool...your posts echo.
These threads always attract the same Mexico-merger trolls.
Sad but true. He's allowing an actual invasion into America (15? million people) without firing a shot.
SO sick of hearing that.
And their patron St. Michelle is leading the way.
Of course by the time this thread is over I(Dane) will be accused of being pro-islamofascist, anti-sikh, and replies saying that I hate Michelle Malkin because she is Asian.
Jorge"Dubleva"Arbusto(George"W"Bush) = America's RASPUTIN
It's gone far beyond typical, simple political nonsense.
bayourod = Illegalae Alieno Cheerleaderae
Oh sheesh, yunz guys's blast faxes are getting pathetic, IMO.
If this had been a Helen Thomas thread, there would have been 10 pictures by now. Very telling....
The worst part about all of this is that I voted for Bush in both 2000 and 2004. The only reason Bush got my vote in 2004 was because Kerry was such an Anti-American/Anti-Military POS. But I am starting to wonder if there is any real Difference between Kerry and someone who wants to sell our country and culture out to the highest bidder. One bitten twice shy, I will never make that mistake again.
The Clinton administration, twelve years long and going for sixteen.
It's just that employers can save a LOT of money by hiring illegals.
As long as employers are hiring illegals, it proves the benefits of doing so outweigh the perceived risks.
Yours has my vote for "dumbest post of the day."
Yeah right you voted for Bush in 00 and 04. Give me a break.
You probably, IMO, voted for Buchanan in 00(0.4% of the Presidential vote) , and Peroutka(0.2% of the Presidential vote), in 04.
Please don't and stop considering the majority of people on FR as fools.
I agree in principle and disagree in specifics. We need to be talking about a guest worker program. And one of its most important facets is that anyone who has violated our immigration laws is ineligible. Further features should be: employers pay a $1000 per month fee to the government to hire the guest worker. Children born here are not granted citizenship. It is limited to 5 years.
It's babies or immigrants, folks. Take your pick. We cannot arrive at 2025 with two workers per retiree.
You can only tax people so much. If we're not going to have euthanisia for Granny, we need people out there working and paying taxes.
Right now the fertility of American women is just below the replacement rate. We're not going to avoid a demographic debacle if that keeps up.
Just be glad our immigrants are from a basically Christian country, and they don't come here with orders from God to kill us all.
But come they will, and the government won't do squat about it. They can't. They can't allow the demographic time bomb to go off; it's too ugly.
So rail and rant all you want. Nothing will change.
Correcto!!!! It is only the Bottomlineo that mattero, not our La república de Estados Unidos.
This is really beyond belief.
These ever growing government is going to bring in the equivalent of TWO MAJOR cities of illegal aliens and new immigrants (many from Muslim countries) into our country EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
Interesting enough Texas, happens to have one of the fastest growing Muslim populations.
Continue to leave this country wide open to *millions* of uneducated, non English speaking, religious fanatics, many without basic skills or basic education.
A real plan for success.
I expect that type of talk from folks who espouse your views. Thing is that nonsense doesn't work on me. Might want to try your "Pro-illegal/Traitorist" crap on someone else. And I really could care less what someone like you thinks about me or how I voted. I put America and Americans first, you on the other hand... Well implyed is implied.
And one of its most important facets is that anyone who has violated our immigration laws is ineligible.
Won't happen. There is simply no way to send 8 million people back to Mexico. It is logistically impossible.
Further features should be: employers pay a $1000 per month fee to the government to hire the guest worker.
It would cost $1000 a month per worker in bureaucracy to monitor such a program.
Children born here are not granted citizenship.
This would require a constitutional amendment, not likely to pass.
It is limited to 5 years.
Bush's is time-limited.
Well of course when you go from 1,000 followers to 2,000, that is a !00% increase.
But what the hey you still conviently forget to say that Texas is probably 95% Christian.
Oh I forgot you Joe have a propaganda campaign to perpetuate, nevermind.
I hope your trenchcoat is lined with asbestos.
I find the demand that all illegal aliens be kicked out of the country to be amusing. There is no political consensus to do that, nor will there be in the foreseeable future. We're not about to cast a dragnet over the entire country and demand everybody produce papers or get kicked out. Nor are we going to fine & jail employers and wrecks the agricultural industry.
The President is trying to address a serious problem seriously, and all we get are unrealistic demands and attacks on the man.
If something like the President's plan isn't adopted, we'll be left with the status quo, which is worse.
Got a spare asbestos trenchcoat?
And just how do you accomplish your three step process? Run ads that say, "Illegals, Get Out!" ???
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